Im searching for a Samuel ROBERTSON that married Elizabeth HARRIS and supposedly was born in the Highlands of Scotland... They came here in ca 1769 and had 10 children first to VA and then on to Kentucky. I cannot find any ship immigrant papers on them nor can I find anything else. Just thinking I would let you know in case you ever stumble across them you could pass the info. on... Thank You, Margaret Robertson Shearies@mswin.net -----Original Message----- From: Janice Poskitt <janice_poskitt@yahoo.com> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 06, 2000 7:20 PM Subject: RE: Tracking shepherds >Hello Ann, > >Funny you should ask that. > >> When you were looking for your shepherds, did any of them wander into > >Wales for a period of time?! The reason I ask is that we are looking >really hard at a family of Scots who seem to have landed there. The >father is a shepherd and one of the children is the right name and age >for my husband's gfather who died in Carlisle in 1914 at the age of 42 >and who was also a shepherd. We're really early in our search so we >could be on the wrong track. We need to check to see where they were >in 1891. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. Cheers, Ann > > >I'm targeting a Samuel ROBERTSON who appears in the 1881 Census for >Anglesey, Wales. > >My Samuel ROBERTSON was b 1831 Moffat DFS the youngest child of Robert >ROBSON / ROBERTSON & Grace EWART. The father Robert dies later in 1831. > >Samuel is living in Crawford LKS in 1851 is unmarried & an ag lab. > >Now, there is a marriage for a Samuel ROBERTSON & Mary WILLIAMSON 1852 >Glasgow - I've ordered the parish register in the hopes of (dis)proving >whether he is my Samuel. The Crawford marriages have been >lost/destroyed. > >The 1881 Census entry for Wales reads:- > >Census Place: Llangoed, Anglesey, Wales - Dwelling: Nant Eilen >Source: FHL Film 1342338 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5572 Folio 17 >Page 11 > > Marr Age Sex Birthplace >Samuel ROBERTSON M 50 M Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Farm Bailiff >Mary ROBERTSON M 49 F Scotland > Rel: Wife > > >Re occupations:- >Samuel in 1851 is listed as ag lab - I don't find that inconsistent or >such a big leap to Farm Bailiff in 1881. > >Samuel's uncles & brothers were ag labs in the 1820-40s & later became >shepherds & sheep farm managers in SCT. Maybe they were instrumental in >finding Samuel a position. Sometimes it's more who you know, than >what?? > >I'll see what the Glasgow marriages turn up & then turn my attention to >1871 & 1891 Census for Anglesey. > >Samuel & Mary don't appear to have had any chn in SCT. This is pure >speculation but, if they had chn in Wales that were bapt in the >Presbyterian Church they would be non-conformists & probably wouldn't >make it onto the IGI anyway - or at least not at this point in time. > >Regarding your family in the 1881 Census:- >John BEATTIE 49 M Scotland >Agnes H. BEATTIE 40 F Scotland >James BEATTIE 12 M Scotland >David BEATTIE 10 M Scotland [gfather?] >Robert BEATTIE 8 M Scotland >Agnes BEATTIE 6 F Scotland >William BEATTIE 4 M Scotland >Margaret J. BEATTIE 2 F Llansannan, Denbigh, Wales >Jennet G. BEATTIE 2 w F Llansannan, Denbigh, Wales > >Have you got your grandfather's marriage cert? Where did he marry? And >what info did you glean from it. If he married in ENG or WLS it would >have only had father's names. > >Are you near an FHC. Sorry, my knowledge of Alberta is limited. > >The above David was born around the 1871 Census - I'd order the film >for his birth registration as well as that for Robert. I'd also order >the 1871 Census for their place of birth. > >Depending on what you turn up I'd also order the 1891 Census for >Llansannan, Denbigh, Wales. Never know - some rellies might have come >to stay - maybe David's future bride (your grandmother) might be from >the same parish. > >Your grandfather David: - I would be hunting out ALL his chn's birth >certificates - did he give any of his chn surnames as middle names. If >so, what names. > >Would they tie in with the initials H., J., G. from the census. If so >I'd at least look at the St Catherines House Index to establish >Margaret & Jennet's middle names. Cheaper option than getting the >certificate. > >I usually try & get every certficate for each family member - but I >don't want to spend your money for you. > >David died in 1914 - his ENG death cert won't tell you a heck of a lot. >But who was the informant? > >Was there a death/funeral notice - did he die of natural causes - if >accident, a newspaper report. > >Back then they were into black edged Memorium cards - would there be >any of these in existence - might give you something other than what is >already on the death cert. > >The parents in the census could have outlived your David - maybe a >search for their death certs - either in ENG or SCT. > >Basically, just check any available source. > >Regards, Janice, Motueka, New Zealand > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com/ >