Below is data from the 1881 census provided to us by a kind person to help us with our research. I've looked and looked at these two families who are shown at the same address. The two Davids can't be father/son. There's the middle name "SPINK" in both households' daughter names. Would SKS give me their thoughts on what's going on here as far as relationships and linkages between the two families? I'm too new at this to figure it out. Thanks very much, Ann *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Ann Neilson Beattie & David Beattie, Cochrane Alberta Canada researching BEATTIE/BYERS borders area of England/Scotland; also Ireland & Canada *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Dwelling: 1 South Street Census Place: Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203474 GRO Ref Volume 272 EnumDist 11 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David BEATTIE M 25 M St. Vigeans ((Auchmithie)), Forfar, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Fisherman Barbara Spink BEATTIE M 27 F St. Vigeans ((Auchmithie)), Forfar, Scotland Rel: Wife Maggie BEATTIE 1 F Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Daughter Annie PERT U 13 F Craig ((Ferryden)), Forfar, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Domestic General Servant Baits Lines Fisherman David BEATTIE M 36 M Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Fisherman Helen Matthewson BEATTIE M 30 F Forfar, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Wife David BEATTIE 10 M Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland [we think this one might be our gfather] Rel: Son Occ: Scholar James BEATTIE 8 M Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Son Elizabeth Spink BEATTIE 6 F Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Daughter Thomas BEATTIE 1 m M Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Son

Ann, Actually, one of the women who has SPINK as a middle name is the wife of one of the Davids, rather than the daughter. SPINK may have been her maiden name, or she may have been Barbara Spink SOMETHING. The young girl's middle name may have come from the older woman's name, or she may have been named for a grandmother, or for someone else. The address may have been a large tenement building, with multiple families, so proximity doesn't necessarily mean there is a relationship. Quick additional guesses (if you mis-typed somewhere and the two women with SPINK as a middle name were both daughters): -- The two Davids may have been cousins, and one of their grandmothers may have been named [Something] SPINK. -- The two Davids have some relationship (cousin or more distant), and the SPINK is for a prominent non-family member (minister of the local church is a possibility). There may be no connection between the two families (as a few names tend to get re-used over and over) but the two Davids may well have been cousins. If possible, you might want to search the IGI on-line and see if you can find possible birth records for the two Davids and for their wives. For those who may have been born 1854 & before, you may also want to check the OPR index, available at your local Family History Center. Once you have done that, order the marriage certificates for the couple you are interested in...that should also have lots of information. Hope this helps, BJ Ann Beattie wrote: > I've looked and looked at these two families who are > shown at the same address. The two Davids can't be father/son. There's the > middle name "SPINK" in both households' daughter names. Would SKS give me > their thoughts on what's going on here as far as relationships and linkages > between the two families? I'm too new at this to figure it out. > > Dwelling: 1 South Street > Census Place: Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203474 GRO Ref Volume 272 EnumDist 11 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > David BEATTIE M 25 M St. Vigeans ((Auchmithie)), Forfar, Scotland > Barbara Spink BEATTIE M 27 F St. Vigeans ((Auchmithie)), Forfar, Scotland > Rel: Wife > > David BEATTIE M 36 M Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland > Helen Matthewson BEATTIE M 30 F Forfar, Forfar, Scotland > Rel: Wife > Elizabeth Spink BEATTIE 6 F Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland > Rel: Daughter >