> I couldn't get the link to the 1851 census to work. Any ideas? Marcus McCullough > Wrom: SCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZA > Date: 2003/09/02 Tue AM 03:00:04 GMT+00:00 > To: [email protected] > Subject: BORDER-D Digest V03 #139 > > BORDER-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 139 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [BORDER] Census [boyd <[email protected]>] > #2 Re: [BORDER] Census ["J A Olsen" <[email protected]>] > #3 [BORDER] CAVERS in Hawick ["Rod Smith" <[email protected]>] > #4 [BORDER] Re: BANKEND BORDER-D Dige [[email protected]] > #5 [BORDER] Smail & Turnbull [Katherine Paterson <[email protected]] > #6 [BORDER] George Scott CAVERS ["Rod Smith" <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from BORDER-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > Have you tried the 1851 Census for Dumfries and Galloway. > http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/services/depts/comres/library/census_searchresu > lts.asp > > Boyd > > In message <[email protected]>, Gary Carruthers > <[email protected]> writes > >Hi List, > > > >I wonder if anyone can advise me as to the best way to locate a family > >"somewhere in Scotland or maybe even England between the years 1831-1860"? So > >far I have found their whereabouts between the years : > > > >1816-1824 - Pathhead, St Mungo, Dumfries > >1825-1830 - Dryfesdale, Dumfries > >1831-1860 - ????? > >1861-1873 - Mauchline, Ayr > >1881-1884 Ecclefechan, Dumfries > > > >The names in question are: > > > >George Carruthers born 1796 born St Mungo > >Elizabeth nee Carlyle 1798 Lochmaben > >Children: > >Jane Carruthers 1823 St Mungo > >Mary Carruthers 1825 Dryfesdale > >William Carruthers 1827 Dryfesdale > >Richards Carruthers 1829 Dryfesdale > > > >Your advice would be appreciated. > > > >Regards > >Gary Carruthers > >Australia > > > >______________________________ > > -- > boyd > > ______________________________ > hi gary > > its the length of a bit of string question really > > a) the missing bit is Georges occupation innit? This could give a clue as to > what area he might have moved to, also the chance to find him in > directories. > > b) any family events during the years in question? > > Example - if George was informant on the death cert of one of his parents. > > > > > cheers > > > Judy > > > > > ---------- > >Wrom: AFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYI > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [BORDER] Census > >Date: 31, Sun Aug, 2003, 8:07 am > > > > > Hi List, > > > > I wonder if anyone can advise me as to the best way to locate a family > > "somewhere in Scotland or maybe even England between the years 1831-1860"? > > So far I have found their whereabouts between the years : > > > > 1816-1824 - Pathhead, St Mungo, Dumfries > > 1825-1830 - Dryfesdale, Dumfries > > 1831-1860 - ????? > > 1861-1873 - Mauchline, Ayr > > 1881-1884 Ecclefechan, Dumfries > > > > The names in question are: > > > > George Carruthers born 1796 born St Mungo > > Elizabeth nee Carlyle 1798 Lochmaben > > Children: > > Jane Carruthers 1823 St Mungo > > Mary Carruthers 1825 Dryfesdale > > William Carruthers 1827 Dryfesdale > > Richards Carruthers 1829 Dryfesdale > > > > Your advice would be appreciated. > > > > Regards > > Gary Carruthers > > Australia > > > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We > > also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, > > Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > > > > ______________________________ > Sorry if I appear to ramble, please bear with me! > > Can anyone help with a recent avenue of research? > > I'm trying to find my maternal line of CAVERS in Scotland. > My 3rd great grandfather was Walter CAVERS who moved from Scotland to > Nottingham by 1826, marrying Jane MARTIN in that year. > They had ten children, some stayed in Nottingham, (my line) but most moved > to London between 1861 & his death in 1873 in Islington (he ran a business > as a wholesale Milliner, and most of the female children were Milliners). > On the 1881 census, his daughter, Agnes, living at 48 Kiver Rd, London, has > her niece Lizzie from Nottingham living with her, also, Willie L CAVERS, > born in London (male, but down on the transcript as niece!!!) (Jane is in > London, again wrong transcript as Jane COVERS, living with her son's family, > Robert) > I've got Willie's marriage cert, giving his father as George Scott CAVERS, > and a middle name of Langton, a search of IGI, gives a marriage of George > Scott CAVERS & Mary LANGTON in Hawick 8th Sep 1875. > If, as the 1881 census supposes, there is a family link from Willie to > Agnes, to find out more on George's ancestors might give me the parents of > Walter in Scotland (his death cert suggests he was born 1795) > Has anyone anything on either Walter or George? > IGI has a christening of a Walter in 1st Aug 1796 Kirkton, to another > Walter, and one in Kirkton again, 30th Jun 1799 to James CAVERS, nothing > else comes close. > > Rod Smith > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > > ______________________________ > Many thanks to all who have sent information about Bankend, especially Judy > and Roy and Alan. > > Greetings. > > Arthur. > > ______________________________ > Regarding the mention of the surnames SMAIL and TURNBULL in reference > to the JEDBURGH area - > > My grgrgrandfather's youngest sister Susan PATERSON married John SMAIL > on 24 June 1868 at Jedburgh. Their known & documented children were: > Thomas SMAIL b. 1 Jan 1872 Kelso > Ellen Clark SMAIL b. 22 Dec 1873 Kelso > Francis SMAIL b. 5 Dec 1875 Kelso > Mary SMAIL b. 27 Feb 1877 Kelso > > Another sister Agnes PATERSON married Andrew JOHNSTONE on 16 May 1856 > at Jedburgh. Of their seven known & documented children, two married > persons named TURNBULL: > Francis(Frank) JOHNSTON b. 6 Jun 1856 Jedburgh, married Catherine > TURNBULL b. 20 Apr 1863 Morebattle, on 5 Mar 1886 at Eckford > Ellen(Helen) JOHNSTON b. 27 Apr 1863, Eckford, married Walter Turnbull > b. abt Mar 1859 Morebattle, on 11 Feb 1887 at Eckford. > > Catherine Turnbull and Walter Turnbull were siblings. > > Any information on these individuals, their descendants, or general > information on the SMAIL and TURNBULL families of the Jedburgh area, > would be appreciated. > > Katherine Paterson > Toronto, Canada > > Previous message ---- > > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 > Wrom: YZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQ > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BORDER] Bankend - was "JEDBURGH" > > Jim, see my other message for a description of the location of the > cottage. > > A for the postcard you are right, it would be much later than 1877 due > to > legal restrictions - basically postcards as we know then didn't exist > at the > time. > > Local postcard publishers included the Smails, and Turnbulls, who took > over > their shop. Also Clappertons - and national firms like Valentine of > Dundee. > > Judy > > ______________________________ > Sorry if I appear to ramble, please bear with me! > > Can anyone help with a recent avenue of research? > > I'm trying to find my maternal line of CAVERS in Scotland. > My 3rd great grandfather was Walter CAVERS who moved from Scotland to > Nottingham by 1826, marrying Jane MARTIN in that year. > They had ten children, some stayed in Nottingham, (my line) but most moved > to London between 1861 & his death in 1873 in Islington (he ran a business > as a wholesale Milliner, and most of the female children were Milliners). > On the 1881 census, his daughter, Agnes, living at 48 Kiver Rd, London, has > her niece Lizzie from Nottingham living with her, also, Willie L CAVERS, > born in London (male, but down on the transcript as niece!!!) (Jane is in > London, again wrong transcript as Jane COVERS, living with her son's family, > Robert) > I've got Willie's marriage cert, giving his father as George Scott CAVERS, > and a middle name of Langton, a search of IGI, gives a marriage of George > Scott CAVERS & Mary LANGTON in Hawick 8th Sep 1875. > If, as the 1881 census supposes, there is a family link from Willie to > Agnes, to find out more on George's ancestors might give me the parents of > Walter in Scotland (his death cert suggests he was born 1795) > Has anyone anything on either Walter or George? > IGI has a christening of a Walter in 1st Aug 1796 Kirkton, to another > Walter, and one in Kirkton again, 30th Jun 1799 to James CAVERS, nothing > else comes close. > > Rod Smith > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > >