It works for me. You have to wait till the page loads then go to Historical Indexes Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: [BORDER] Re: BORDER-D Digest V03 #139 > > > I couldn't get the link to the 1851 census to work. Any ideas? > > Marcus McCullough > > > Wrom: SCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZA > > Date: 2003/09/02 Tue AM 03:00:04 GMT+00:00 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: BORDER-D Digest V03 #139 > > > > BORDER-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 139 > > > > Today's Topics: > > #1 Re: [BORDER] Census [boyd <[email protected]>] > > #2 Re: [BORDER] Census ["J A Olsen" <[email protected]>] > > #3 [BORDER] CAVERS in Hawick ["Rod Smith" <[email protected]>] > > #4 [BORDER] Re: BANKEND BORDER-D Dige [[email protected]] > > #5 [BORDER] Smail & Turnbull [Katherine Paterson <[email protected]] > > #6 [BORDER] George Scott CAVERS ["Rod Smith" <[email protected]>] > > > > Administrivia: > > To unsubscribe from BORDER-D, send a message to > > > > [email protected] > > > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > > > unsubscribe > > > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > > ______________________________ > > Have you tried the 1851 Census for Dumfries and Galloway. > > http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/services/depts/comres/library/census_searchresu > > lts.asp > > > > Boyd > > > > In message <[email protected]>, Gary Carruthers > > <[email protected]> writes > > >Hi List, > > > > > >I wonder if anyone can advise me as to the best way to locate a family > > >"somewhere in Scotland or maybe even England between the years 1831-1860"? So > > >far I have found their whereabouts between the years : > > > > > >1816-1824 - Pathhead, St Mungo, Dumfries > > >1825-1830 - Dryfesdale, Dumfries > > >1831-1860 - ????? > > >1861-1873 - Mauchline, Ayr > > >1881-1884 Ecclefechan, Dumfries > > > > > >The names in question are: > > > > > >George Carruthers born 1796 born St Mungo > > >Elizabeth nee Carlyle 1798 Lochmaben > > >Children: > > >Jane Carruthers 1823 St Mungo > > >Mary Carruthers 1825 Dryfesdale > > >William Carruthers 1827 Dryfesdale > > >Richards Carruthers 1829 Dryfesdale > > > > > >Your advice would be appreciated. > > > > > >Regards > > >Gary Carruthers > > >Australia > > > > > >______________________________ > > > > -- > > boyd > > > > ______________________________ > > hi gary > > > > its the length of a bit of string question really > > > > a) the missing bit is Georges occupation innit? This could give a clue as to > > what area he might have moved to, also the chance to find him in > > directories. > > > > b) any family events during the years in question? > > > > Example - if George was informant on the death cert of one of his parents. > > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > >Wrom: AFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYI > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: [BORDER] Census > > >Date: 31, Sun Aug, 2003, 8:07 am > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can advise me as to the best way to locate a family > > > "somewhere in Scotland or maybe even England between the years 1831-1860"? > > > So far I have found their whereabouts between the years : > > > > > > 1816-1824 - Pathhead, St Mungo, Dumfries > > > 1825-1830 - Dryfesdale, Dumfries > > > 1831-1860 - ????? > > > 1861-1873 - Mauchline, Ayr > > > 1881-1884 Ecclefechan, Dumfries > > > > > > The names in question are: > > > > > > George Carruthers born 1796 born St Mungo > > > Elizabeth nee Carlyle 1798 Lochmaben > > > Children: > > > Jane Carruthers 1823 St Mungo > > > Mary Carruthers 1825 Dryfesdale > > > William Carruthers 1827 Dryfesdale > > > Richards Carruthers 1829 Dryfesdale > > > > > > Your advice would be appreciated. > > > > > > Regards > > > Gary Carruthers > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > > > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We > > > also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, > > > Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > Sorry if I appear to ramble, please bear with me! > > > > Can anyone help with a recent avenue of research? > > > > I'm trying to find my maternal line of CAVERS in Scotland. > > My 3rd great grandfather was Walter CAVERS who moved from Scotland to > > Nottingham by 1826, marrying Jane MARTIN in that year. > > They had ten children, some stayed in Nottingham, (my line) but most moved > > to London between 1861 & his death in 1873 in Islington (he ran a business > > as a wholesale Milliner, and most of the female children were Milliners). > > On the 1881 census, his daughter, Agnes, living at 48 Kiver Rd, London, has > > her niece Lizzie from Nottingham living with her, also, Willie L CAVERS, > > born in London (male, but down on the transcript as niece!!!) (Jane is in > > London, again wrong transcript as Jane COVERS, living with her son's family, > > Robert) > > I've got Willie's marriage cert, giving his father as George Scott CAVERS, > > and a middle name of Langton, a search of IGI, gives a marriage of George > > Scott CAVERS & Mary LANGTON in Hawick 8th Sep 1875. > > If, as the 1881 census supposes, there is a family link from Willie to > > Agnes, to find out more on George's ancestors might give me the parents of > > Walter in Scotland (his death cert suggests he was born 1795) > > Has anyone anything on either Walter or George? > > IGI has a christening of a Walter in 1st Aug 1796 Kirkton, to another > > Walter, and one in Kirkton again, 30th Jun 1799 to James CAVERS, nothing > > else comes close. > > > > Rod Smith > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > > > > ______________________________ > > Many thanks to all who have sent information about Bankend, especially Judy > > and Roy and Alan. > > > > Greetings. > > > > Arthur. > > > > ______________________________ > > Regarding the mention of the surnames SMAIL and TURNBULL in reference > > to the JEDBURGH area - > > > > My grgrgrandfather's youngest sister Susan PATERSON married John SMAIL > > on 24 June 1868 at Jedburgh. Their known & documented children were: > > Thomas SMAIL b. 1 Jan 1872 Kelso > > Ellen Clark SMAIL b. 22 Dec 1873 Kelso > > Francis SMAIL b. 5 Dec 1875 Kelso > > Mary SMAIL b. 27 Feb 1877 Kelso > > > > Another sister Agnes PATERSON married Andrew JOHNSTONE on 16 May 1856 > > at Jedburgh. Of their seven known & documented children, two married > > persons named TURNBULL: > > Francis(Frank) JOHNSTON b. 6 Jun 1856 Jedburgh, married Catherine > > TURNBULL b. 20 Apr 1863 Morebattle, on 5 Mar 1886 at Eckford > > Ellen(Helen) JOHNSTON b. 27 Apr 1863, Eckford, married Walter Turnbull > > b. abt Mar 1859 Morebattle, on 11 Feb 1887 at Eckford. > > > > Catherine Turnbull and Walter Turnbull were siblings. > > > > Any information on these individuals, their descendants, or general > > information on the SMAIL and TURNBULL families of the Jedburgh area, > > would be appreciated. > > > > Katherine Paterson > > Toronto, Canada > > > > Previous message ---- > > > > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 > > Wrom: YZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQ > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [BORDER] Bankend - was "JEDBURGH" > > > > Jim, see my other message for a description of the location of the > > cottage. > > > > A for the postcard you are right, it would be much later than 1877 due > > to > > legal restrictions - basically postcards as we know then didn't exist > > at the > > time. > > > > Local postcard publishers included the Smails, and Turnbulls, who took > > over > > their shop. Also Clappertons - and national firms like Valentine of > > Dundee. > > > > Judy > > > > ______________________________ > > Sorry if I appear to ramble, please bear with me! > > > > Can anyone help with a recent avenue of research? > > > > I'm trying to find my maternal line of CAVERS in Scotland. > > My 3rd great grandfather was Walter CAVERS who moved from Scotland to > > Nottingham by 1826, marrying Jane MARTIN in that year. > > They had ten children, some stayed in Nottingham, (my line) but most moved > > to London between 1861 & his death in 1873 in Islington (he ran a business > > as a wholesale Milliner, and most of the female children were Milliners). > > On the 1881 census, his daughter, Agnes, living at 48 Kiver Rd, London, has > > her niece Lizzie from Nottingham living with her, also, Willie L CAVERS, > > born in London (male, but down on the transcript as niece!!!) (Jane is in > > London, again wrong transcript as Jane COVERS, living with her son's family, > > Robert) > > I've got Willie's marriage cert, giving his father as George Scott CAVERS, > > and a middle name of Langton, a search of IGI, gives a marriage of George > > Scott CAVERS & Mary LANGTON in Hawick 8th Sep 1875. > > If, as the 1881 census supposes, there is a family link from Willie to > > Agnes, to find out more on George's ancestors might give me the parents of > > Walter in Scotland (his death cert suggests he was born 1795) > > Has anyone anything on either Walter or George? > > IGI has a christening of a Walter in 1st Aug 1796 Kirkton, to another > > Walter, and one in Kirkton again, 30th Jun 1799 to James CAVERS, nothing > > else comes close. > > > > Rod Smith > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > > > > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > > > >