Hello lists. I am researching a number of families with the above names who settled in Buckinghamshire, England in the last quarter of the 17th century before the Act of Union 1707 and would love to know their origins and reasons for migration/settlement. Forgive the cross-posting please but, although I'm pretty sure these folk came from the Dumfries/Galloway/Wigtown/Borders areas, I have no idea exactly where so I'm aiming for maximum coverage. When they arrived in Bucks, the men were all described as Linen Drapers, Lacebuyers and Chapmen. They resided in or near the main lace-making and clothier towns of Newport Pagnell, Olney, Buckingham and near the main roads to London, in Bletchley, Newton Longville etc. Members of the families also turn up in London occasionally. They had various connections to early Presbyterian and Independent Meetings in north Bucks and there seems to be a Moravian thread going on too. With apologies for the length of the email, I will post the main details of the families below, for the sake of archive-searchers and people looking for possible strays. But I would love to hear from anyone with knowledge of the linen trading families of this period 1680-1707, or of family migrations to England - that is, NOT to Ulster where so many went in this time period, but to England where I guess they had linen and lace trade contacts. Any links to folk with these names in D&G, WIG and Borders in the late 1600s and early 1700s will be of interest. In hope Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK SCOTS IN NORTH BUCKS (so far) Patrick ROY married Sarah LANCASHIRE 22 Apr 1698 in Allhallows London Wall. Patrick became innkeeper at the Ram Inn in Newport Pagnell which wife Sarah owned, with her two sisters Their children: Hannah 1699; Katharine 1700; Sarah 1702; Margaret 1704; James 1711 Of these, Margaret ROY married James MILLIGAN, Linen Draper, on 8 Jul 1728 in Gayhurst, Bucks James took over the Ram Inn from his father in law. He was a trustee for the Independent Meeting House in Newport Pagnell in the 1740s-60s, but he or his son James (or possibly both) became bankrupt in the 1760s (and so was possibly imprisoned, at least for a while) Their other children John, Patrick, Jane and Robert all died as infants. Son James married Margaret MACKARETH on 25 Oct 1769 in St Andrew's, Hertford, Herts (where Margaret's sister Mary had married a Thomas WILDMAN in 1757) and their only known child Margaret Mackareth MILLIGAN, born 1771, lived to 1852. James sadly died a few weeks after Margaret's birth in 1771. In 1851 Margaret was living in Ambleside WES and she left a will (those named were all from the MACKARETH side, living in Westmorland, Liverpool and London). James MILLIGAN who married Margaret ROY seems to have been one of several sibs who settled in north Bucks at the same time. There were also: Andrew MILLAGAN, Linen Draper/Chapman David MILLAGAN, Linen Draper Mary MILLAGAN spinster Judging by marriage dates and the occasional gravestone or Will, they were all probably born abt 1685-1691. Andrew MILLAGAN married Mary WOODBRIDGE on 19 Jan 1711 in St Mary, Aylesbury, Bucks, when he was of Newton Longville and she of Weston Turville Andrew died in the Kings Bench prison (most likely imprisoned for debt) on 8 May 1750 and was buried in Newton Longville (alongside David and James, his probable brothers) on 14 May. Andrew and Mary's children, bap in Weston Turville, Bucks were 1. William (married a Martha and had 3 children in Weston Turville, Mary, Elizabeth and Mary - the last two lived to ripe old ages and died unmarried in the village in 1837 and 1835 respectively) 2. John (married Catherine HOWLETT on 5 Nov 1734 in Monks Risborough, Bucks, when they were both of Bledlow, Bucks) David MILLAGAN married (1) Ann TOMPKINS on 13 Oct 1706 in Newton Longville and they had 1 son Robert in 1710 before Ann died aged 31 in 1711 (a gravestone for her still exists!) This son Robert survived to marry and be a trouble to everyone he encountered and he died in ignominy in Calcutta in 1759. But before then he produced 3 children and a dynasty. His grand-daughter Catherine MILLAGAN married into my main NELSON family of Buckingham. Much more info available about Robert MILLAGAN and his descendants to anyone interested. David MILLAGAN married (2) Ann BARRETT of Turweston, Bucks on 16 Jul 1713 and had two children: Mary 1714 married Robert ADAMS of Thornborough and disappeared from view; David 1716, also disappeared from view and I wonder if he took the line back to Scotland? David MILLAGAN had a friend James CROSBY whom, in one document, David describes as a long-term and very close friend, suggesting they perhaps knew each other BEFORE settling in Bucks. James CROSBY is described as a Scotch Lacebuyer on his marriage to Milicent DANIEL on 21 May 1700 in Bletchley, Bucks. He's a Linen Draper in other records and eventually a Grazier. Their only daughter Mary died a few days old in 1701 but James had an out of wedlock son Robert CROSBY (for whom he paid maintenance) with Jane COOKE in 1716. Milicent died c1720 and James in 1722. After James died, his friend David MILLAGAN was abducted and falsely imprisoned by James' heir, another James CROSBY of Saffron Walden, Essex, and others - the issue was a Bond for a loan of £50, details complicated but available to anyone interested. At the same time as all the above was happening, a Patrick HANNEY Lacebuyer was producing 10 children with two wives named Sarah and at some point settling in Buckingham - he died and left a Will there in 1693. An Andrew HANNEY, possibly a brother, had a son Andrew in Buckingham in 1697 but didn't stay around. Later Patrick's descendants were known as HANNAH. Patrick HANNEY's daughter Sarah married James MILLIGAN of Tingewick, Bucks on 23 Jul 1710 in Buckingham and this takes us round full loop because it may have been a first marriage for James MILLIGAN above who later settled at The Ram in Newport Pagnell. So all 3 MILLAGAN men (James, Andrew and David) were, it seems, imprisoned at some time in their lives and Robert, David's son, got into wrangles with officialdom at the toss of a hat. Were they rogues, were they 'warrior-type' Scotch-Irish, were they respectable puritans but persecuted and ostracised for being non-conformist and 'foreign', or none of the above? These are the questions I would like to answer. Can anyone help?

Would very much like to make contact with anyone who may know anything about an Annie Howie Fidler (born probably Wetheral) and a Dorothy Whitfield Fidler (born 1904 Workington) the daughters of an Annie Mary Fidler who died at Oaklands, Wetheral in 1943. Dorothy was probably also known as Nancy. Both daughters were named in their Mother's Will of 1943, both were unmarried. Annie was the widow of an Edward Fidler, an Agricultural Merchant in the Wetheral area. Annie Mary Whitfield born Workington married Edward Fidler born Haltwhistle in Camberwell, London shortly after the 1901 census. Happy to share all I know on my Whitfield line. Regards, Pauline

Dear listers, Thanks to Nancy McLauchlan for forwarding my membership renewal query, and to Catherine Fish for speedily assuring me all was well, and for taking the extra time to photocopy for me a back issue I'd ordered that was out of print. May I take the time to put in a quick plug for the Borders Family History Society -- in case any list member might have not yet joined and might be thinking of doing so. The BFHS does a sterling job of promoting and preserving not only the history of Border families, but also Borders history and culture more generally. Their Journal is a gold mine of information on all of these subjects, and well worth the modest cost. And to top it off, they are remarkably forgiving of lapsed and forgetful members like me ... Their web address is http://www.bordersfhs.org.uk/ William (returned prodigal member # 73)

Hi, William the BFHS website has current contact details - go to www.bordersfhs.org.uk Hope this helps and you get a response. Susan -----Original Message----- From: border-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:border-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of William Ramp Sent: 07 November 2006 02:15 To: border@rootsweb.com Subject: [BORDER] BFHS membership After letting my membership in the BFHS lapse for a couple of years, I sent in a request to rejoin last July, along with an international postal money order to cover the costs of rejoining plus back issues. At the beginning of October, not having heard back, I sent a query, plus credit card details in case my first request and money order had gone astray. I have not as yet heard anything further and wonder if I might have sent both orders to the wrong person. Apologies if this is off-topic for the list. If someone from the BFHS exec is on the list, perhaps they could contact me off-list to advise. (If it turns out it's just a matter of backlog, that's no problem - I can wait!) William in Alberta Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.13.30/521 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 03:30 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.13.30/521 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 03:30

After letting my membership in the BFHS lapse for a couple of years, I sent in a request to rejoin last July, along with an international postal money order to cover the costs of rejoining plus back issues. At the beginning of October, not having heard back, I sent a query, plus credit card details in case my first request and money order had gone astray. I have not as yet heard anything further and wonder if I might have sent both orders to the wrong person. Apologies if this is off-topic for the list. If someone from the BFHS exec is on the list, perhaps they could contact me off-list to advise. (If it turns out it's just a matter of backlog, that's no problem - I can wait!) William in Alberta Canada

This is to announce that my latest genealogical index has been put online at my website <www.kinhelp.co.uk>. It is - Genealogical Index to "Charters and documents relating to the Burgh of Peebles, with extracts from the records of the burgh. A.D.1165-1710". [note: burgh minutes begin in the year 1456]. There are other indexes to important Scottish local records already there, all free to use if you have access to the books I have indexed. These volumes have either had no index in the book, or a very poor one concentrating on the "important" people. These new indexes cover EVERYBODY, and are massive. If you have no access to the books, I can provide photocopies of the pages of interest to you, at a small charge (listed at the start of each index). Happy hunting! Gordon Johnson.

i love it :-)) fionnghal --- Gary Brookes <redcars@shaw.ca> wrote: > >From the tickets: > > 1. No. 12 C.F Double Barrel 8. > Straw Hive and Bees 16. > Yellow Common Canary Cock > Breech -Loading Gun. > 9. Empty Frame Hive 17. > Yellow Fleck Common Canary Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Noticing Fionnghal's thread on sharing.. and remembering a piece of history that I posted to another list some time ago, I thought I'd re-present it here. Some time ago, I became the latest family guardian of a book that has been part of the family since 1889 entitled : " The National Burns", printed to help celebrate the first centeniary of the bard's death. In it were two tickets with the information below on them. I found the prizes quite interesting and replicate it here to show items worthy of being prizes fitting the lifestyle of our ancestors at that time. >From the tickets: *********** Under the auspices of the Duns Ornithological Society. A GRAND DRAWING OF PRIZES (ON THE ART UNION PRINCIPLE) will take place in THE TOWN HALL , DUNS On 23rd JANUARY 1891, at Eight o'clock p.m, __________ This drawing has been organized by the Committee of the above Society, to raise a fund in aid of the Widow and Five Children of FRANCIS PAXTON, Duns, who met with a Fatal Accident at Cumledge Mills, on 29th October , 1890. The late Francis Paxton was a Member of Committee, and an ardent Fancier. It is hoped that under the circumstances the scheme will be extensively supported. 1. No. 12 C.F Double Barrel 8. Straw Hive and Bees 16. Yellow Common Canary Cock Breech -Loading Gun. 9. Empty Frame Hive 17. Yellow Fleck Common Canary 2. Pair Ice Pigeons 10. Cartridge Bag and Belt Cock 3. Three volumes (British Battles . 11. Buff Piebald Scotch Fancy 18. Buff Fancy Canary Hen by Land and Sea ) Camary Stock 19. Crested Norwich Canary Hen 4. Pair Turbit Pigeons 12. Belgian Canary Hen 20. Pair Blue Antwerps 5. Bar-Frame Hive and Bees 13. No. 12. Cartridge Turn-over 21. Pair Black Homers 6. Pair Jacobin Pigeons 14. First Cross Buff Canary Cock 22. Pair Blue Cheq. Homers 7. Bar-Frame Hive and Bees 15. First Cross Foul Canary Cock 23. Pair do. do. TICKETS --- SIXPENCE EACH Duplicate Numbers and unsold Tickets must be returned not later than 16th January to T. STEPHENSON, Duns. The following members of Committee have been elected to carry through all the arrangements -- JOHN NEWBIGGING, JAMES R. WILLIAMSON, A.S. RANKIN, AND THOMAS STEPHENSON. Winning numbers will be published in the SCOTSMAN and SCOTTISH LEADER of 26th January, and BERWICKSHIRE NEWS of 27th January. ************** For the record , my relative, George Nelson Jr, or his son in law Thomas Gibson, held tickets numbered 2928 and 2929 . ... and given that they were still in the book, I guess not a winner !! :) regards, Gary in Vancouver

thanks, i know how grateful i am to others who contribute info for general use. it just seems i'm at least, to a small degree, repaying that debt. lots of folk do far more than me. if i can help a few, that few is enough. there's a wee proverb amongst us plant enthusiasts and gardeners, 'to keep a plant, give it away'. it's true. if you share cuttings, seedlings &c with fellow enthusiasts, then if disaster strikes and you lose your parent plant, there'll be friends falling over themselves to help you out, with cuttings from your own original. it's a bit like that with sharing info, especially on the net or by putting into print. Having shared it, thre is always a source to draw on. my grandfather used to have a good one but i can't remember it word for word. maybe one of you can. 'Knowledge shared is Knowledge ...gained?' it means it survives to be of use to all, but if a person keeps their discoveries to themselves, when they die, it goes with them, so it may as well never have been discovered in the first place. maybe i've got the proverb inside out 'Knowledge not shared is Knowledge lost..' :-| now it's going to annoy me! unfortunately i cannot contribute just as often as i did, but i won't stop. i don't think i could .. reckon i'm addicted :-/ :-) all the best with your own researches .. and that goes to everyone else. it's a very friendly list this. can't be said of all! le durachd :-) fionnghal --- Karen Graham <karengraham905@cogeco.ca> wrote: > Now I know why I enjoy reading the Border Digest... > Fionnghal, you are a > treasure. Congratulations, and thank you for your > continuously interesting > contributions. > All the best, > Karen > > Re Topics: > 1. Free Presbyterian Ministers 1843 (fionnghal > nicphadraig) > 2. Share - BDMs (fionnghal nicphadraig) > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Now I know why I enjoy reading the Border Digest... Fionnghal, you are a treasure. Congratulations, and thank you for your continuously interesting contributions. All the best, Karen Re Topics: 1. Free Presbyterian Ministers 1843 (fionnghal nicphadraig) 2. Share - BDMs (fionnghal nicphadraig)

hi folks, found these amongst my notes. hope i've not posted them previously. i'm really out of touch. before when i was doing them, i got so familiar with the named that i knew when i'd met someone before. sometimes it was a burial and i realised that a few weeks earlier i'd seen them getting married and htings like that. especially the more unusual names. i won't be able to post as often as before but will try fr at least one a week - and also to remembr to record which dates i;e sent so that i don't re-do the ones i've forgotten! :-/ reported: Wednesday, 15th September 1915, page 12 deaths: <> BLAKE on 12inst., Lady BLAKE, wife of Sir FRANCIS BLAKE, Bart., of Tilmouth Park, Cornhill-on-Tweed. And d. of the late JAMES CLELAND BURNS. Of Glenlee, Hamilton <> SMAIL – at Woking, on 17 Aug ARTHUR COLLINGWOOD SMAIL, of Robgill, Bogawatalawa, Ceylon, youngest s. of the late WILLIAM ARCHIBALD SMAIL, of Overmains, BEW, Scotland. Commander, Royal Navy [Australian & Canadian papers invited to carry.] reported: The Times, Thursday, Sep 22, 1938; pg. 1; Issue 48106; col A deaths: <> DONALDSON – WILLIAM F DONALDSON, ex-surveyor, HM Customs & Excise, of Maxwell Lodge, Kelso-on-Tweed, late of Ballina, Co Mayo, 74yrs. Cremation at Edinburgh Crematorium, Sep 24. reported: The Times, Saturday, Apr 05, 1919; pg. 1; Issue 42067; col A Marriages: <> BELL-BIRD on 4 Apr at St Mark's, North Audley st., by the Rev WG PENNYMAN, vicar, Lieut-Col WHITEFORD J E BELL, DSO., RAMC., elder s. of the late Col JOHN WHITEFORD JE BELL, 93rd Sutherland Highlanders, and Mrs BELL, Moat, of Troqueer, Dumfries, to VYVIAN LYDIA WINIFRED, ARRC., dau of HARRINGTON BIRD, Esq. ARCA, and gr'dau of the late Major-Gen. IF BIRD., Indian Service. <> CRAWSHAW-HOGARTH – on 2 Apr., 1919 at Trinity Church, Kelso, by Rev T CRAUFORD KIRKWOOD, Capt GEORGE CRAWSHAW, MC, RAMC, [T], 5th s. of Dr B CRAWSHAW, of Barwood mount, Ramsbottom, Lancs., to MARY WISON SCOTT, elder dau of the late JOHN HOGARTH, Kelso Mills, and of Mrs HOGARTH, Galalaw, Kelso reported: The Times, Friday, Oct 15, 1937; pg. 19; Issue 47816; col D Marriages: BELL-MARSHALL The marriage took place yesterday at St Andrew's, Kelso, of Mr Henry PETER BELL, elder s. of Lieut.-Col. & Mrs HS BELL of Bavington Hall, NBL, and Miss ELEANORA ANN MARSHALL, only dau of Major & Mrs AC MARSHALL, of Cherrytrees, Kelso. The Rev ARTHUR DICKINSON officiated, assisted BY Rev RC LINTON. The bride, who was given away by her father, wore a dress of white & silver lame with a veil of old Honiton lace [lent by the bride's grandmother, Mrs CK AITKEN] mounted on white tulle and held in place by a wreath of orange-blossom. She carried a bouquet of Madonna lilies and lilies of the valley. There were 6 bridesmaids Miss BETTY BELL [sister of the groom], Miss BARBARA BETHAM, Miss ANNE McCONNEL, Miss MARGARET MacKENZIE, Miss MARY BORTHWICK & Miss MARGARET SMITHERS. The small trainbearer was SALLY INGLIS. The bridesmaids wore dresses of white velvet cut on simple lines and trimmed with silver. They wore small wreaths of silver leaves in their hair and carried bouquets of red carnations. Mr WILFRED LYDE was best man. Mrs MARSHALL afterwards held a reception at Cherrytrees. nice wedding description for the family tree for whoever lays claim to this family :-) cheers for now le durachd :-) fionnghal @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

for those of you whose family overflows onto the English side of hte border, here's a shortcut to searching Genuki's NBL files. Try it :-) copied from the Northumbra list: Brian Pears of Northumbria list has set up an experimental search engine which will search across all the GENUKI pages relating to Co Durham and Northumberland, including the church register transcripts held at Newcastle. The search engine is based on Google's new "co-op" feature which seems reliable, but I cannot guarantee that it works as it is supposed to. You can access the search engine at: http://tinyurl.com/y27uj5 or via the search box near the foot of http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ it's brilliant, :-) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Thanks, Donal. The list however wasn't specific to Berwickshire. it covered the whole of Scotland with a healthy percentage of representatives from the general border area. but thanks for the offer anyway. :-) fionnghal --- Donal O'Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote: > For church records of any type specific to > Berwickshire, Scotland we keep > files to which volunteers can submit copies of their > data. > > Find church records section at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbew/ scroll down > the left column. > > Thanks and good luck. > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fionnghal nicphadraig" > <fionnghalnicphadraig@yahoo.co.uk> > To: "BORDER-L" <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:53 AM > Subject: [BORDER] Free Presbyterian Ministers 1843 > > > > Thanks everyone for your advice on getting my > > information on the web. thanks especially to > those of > > you who offered space on your own sites. that was > > very kind and much appreciated. > > > > However, Genuki have agreed to host my list on > their > > site, under Scotland, church history :-) > > > > It really is the best place as it's everyone's > first > > stop for Genealogical sources and information and > > saves your own valuable space for your personal > data. > > > > > > If the List had been personal family research, it > > wouldn't have stood a chance on Genuki, as 1] > there > > are tons of alternative places for such info, and > 2] > > Genuki is a site designed for general family > history > > research resources and my list came into that > > category. In fact, i cannot lay claim to any > > individual on it :-[ > > > > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ChurchHistory.html > > The Free Church and the Leaders of the Disruption > of > > 1843. > > > > though it is work in progress, it's available for > > searching > > > > thanks again :-) > > le durachd > > fionnghal > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/494 - > Release Date: > > 10/24/2006 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi folks, just thought i'd do a half-hour's worth :-) sine it has been a while, my apologies if i've accidentally posted a repeat. BMDs Reported: The Scotsman - Fri, 31st Jan 1862, pg 4 Births: <> PROUDFOOT - at Moffat, on 26 inst, the wife of John PROUDFOOT of Craigieburn, Esq., of a dau. Marriages: <> FERRAH-ROBISON at BerwickT, on 29inst., by Rev Dr CAIRNS, Mr JAMES FERRAH, compositor, Scottish Press Office, to JANE ROBISON, Tweedmouth, both of BerwickT <> BAILLIE-HALL at Horsley Church, p. of Elsdon, NBL, on 21 inst., by the Hon Mr BAILLIE Rector of Elsdon, Mr JOHN TURNBULL, Slitrig Cr., Hawick, ROX, to Miss HALL, Troughend, Otterburn Reported: The Scotsman - Mon 21 Jan 1935 Deaths: <> PURVES - Mr THOMAS PURVES, BerwickT JP died aged 88 at home at Castle Terr, BerwickT. apart from being a JP, he headed the Border drapery, Messrs PAXTON & PURVES, Berwick. he leaves a widow, 1 son & 5 dau's. The Times, Mon, Aug 28, 1939; pg. 6; Issue 48395; col G Death: Thunderstorm damage <> DUMMA & ELLIOT Man & Woman killed by lightening : at Jedburgh, ALICE DUMMA, 19, of Strathearn Terr., Jedburgh, & NORMAN ELLIOT, 25, of Bongate, Jedburgh. They were at a cricket match when the storm broke and were taking shelter under a tree which was struck. Reported: The Scotsman - Thu, 28 Dec 1916, pg 8 Births: <> McCLURE – at Clairmont, Lockerbie, o n 22 inst., the wife of WY JOHNSTONE, a son Reported: The Scotsman - Thu, 28 Dec 1916, pg 8 Marriages: <> MacNIVEN-FISHER at the Red Lion Hotel, Earlston, on 26inst., by Rev WALTER DAVIDSON, Earlston, ALAN MacNIVEN, M>A>, Eyemouth, to MINA, only dau of SAMUEL FISHER, painter & decorator, The Green, Earlston. Reported: The Scotsman - Thu, 28 Dec 1916, pg 8 Deaths: <> WALLACE – at 7 Suffolk rd., Edinburgh, on 26inst., HELEN ARCHIBALD ACRMICHAEL [ELLA], wife of JOHN D WALLACE, and dau of the late ROBERT CARMICHAEL, Esq., Tweed bank, Coldstream. Funeral Friday, Liberton cemetery. <> BOSTON – at Argyle Hse, Norham, on 25inst., ISABELLA MORTON, beloved wife of ROBERT BOSTON, JP, of Spittal, Berwick-on-Twed, aged 68yrs. Funeral to Tweedmouth Cemetery on Thurs 28inst. Cortege from the Railway Bridges, Tweedmouth. <> MOSSOP – at Victor Lodge, Manningham, Bradford, on 24inst., Surgeon-Colonel ISAAC MOSSOR, VD, LRCP, FRCS, Edin., JP, eldest s. of the late Capt. CHARLES CLEMENT MOSSOP, of Whitehaven Cumberland, 71yrs. Service st Luke's Church, Victor rd., Bradford, Thurs. 28inst. Interment at Undecliffe Cemetery. hope you're all well, and research progressing well :-) le durachd fionnghal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

For church records of any type specific to Berwickshire, Scotland we keep files to which volunteers can submit copies of their data. Find church records section at http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbew/ scroll down the left column. Thanks and good luck. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "fionnghal nicphadraig" <fionnghalnicphadraig@yahoo.co.uk> To: "BORDER-L" <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:53 AM Subject: [BORDER] Free Presbyterian Ministers 1843 > Thanks everyone for your advice on getting my > information on the web. thanks especially to those of > you who offered space on your own sites. that was > very kind and much appreciated. > > However, Genuki have agreed to host my list on their > site, under Scotland, church history :-) > > It really is the best place as it's everyone's first > stop for Genealogical sources and information and > saves your own valuable space for your personal data. > > > If the List had been personal family research, it > wouldn't have stood a chance on Genuki, as 1] there > are tons of alternative places for such info, and 2] > Genuki is a site designed for general family history > research resources and my list came into that > category. In fact, i cannot lay claim to any > individual on it :-[ > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ChurchHistory.html > The Free Church and the Leaders of the Disruption of > 1843. > > though it is work in progress, it's available for > searching > > thanks again :-) > le durachd > fionnghal > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/494 - Release Date: > 10/24/2006 > >

Thanks everyone for your advice on getting my information on the web. thanks especially to those of you who offered space on your own sites. that was very kind and much appreciated. However, Genuki have agreed to host my list on their site, under Scotland, church history :-) It really is the best place as it's everyone's first stop for Genealogical sources and information and saves your own valuable space for your personal data. If the List had been personal family research, it wouldn't have stood a chance on Genuki, as 1] there are tons of alternative places for such info, and 2] Genuki is a site designed for general family history research resources and my list came into that category. In fact, i cannot lay claim to any individual on it :-[ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ChurchHistory.html The Free Church and the Leaders of the Disruption of 1843. though it is work in progress, it's available for searching thanks again :-) le durachd fionnghal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Listers Interested in hearing from anyone with links to these CRAWFORDs at Hassendean, near Minto, just outside Hawick in ROX, SCT. Regards Judy in Australia Mary Boyd GARDNER b 8 Sept 1864 Edgerston; d 11 March 1940 Hassendean, ROX, SCT; inf James CRAWFORD, son, Newton, Jedburgh marr 25 March 1898 Hiltonshill, St Boswells, ROX; Spouse: James CRAWFORD jnr-son of James CRAWFORD & Margaret WEATHERHEAD; b Sprouston; d 24 Oct 1939 Hassendean aged 69; inf James CRAWFORD, son, Newton, Jedburgh, SCT lived after marriage with James' parents at Hassendean Farm Cottages, Minto Child of Mary (before marriage)1. Elizabeth Waldie GARDNER; b 3 Sep 1889 at 11 p.m. Barnhills Ancrum (illeg); probably the Lizzie in 1901 census living with her grandparents Wm & Betsy GARDNER in Winningtonrig Cottages in the Parish of Kirkton Children of James & Mary CRAWFORD: 1. James CRAWFORD;b 1899 Minto 2. William Gardner CRAWFORD; b 17 Jan 1901 Hassendean, ROX, SCT 3. Margaret Weatherhead GRAWFORD(twin)b Oct 21 1904 Hassendean, Minto; d 5 Nov 1904 aged 17 days 4. Janet CRAWFORD(twin); b 21 Oct 1904 Hassendean, Minto; d 21 Oct 1904 12 hours old

Hi Listers Looking for fellow researchers of the following families: John ELLIOT married Mary HUNTER and had the following children: *James chr 1805 Bewcastle (my direct line, I believe) William chr 1808 Bewcastle George chr 1811 Bewcastle ........ **James ELLIOT chr 1805 Bewcastle CUM ENG d 23rd April 1880 Nether Oakshaw Bewcastle CUM bur St Cuthberts Churchyard Bewcastle Parish CUM carter (1858), 1841 census Castleton Newcastleton Village 1851 Newcastleton 1861 census North Hermitage St, Castleton with wife & children marr 1. 7 April 1830, BEW, CUM ENG Spouse Mary LITTLE ; d April 1837 marr 2 13 Feb 1839 Bewcastle, Cumberland, ENG Spouse Helen HEWITSON /HOTSON/HUDSON b Newcastleton abt 1815 (illegitimate); d. 27 July 1895 2 p.m. Rosebank, Hawick. 80 yrs senile decay Children of James ELLIOT & Mary LITTLE 1. John ELLIOT b abt 1833 ENG 1841 census Castleton Newcastleton Village d 7 Feb 1892 Nether Oakshaw, Bewcastle 1861 census North Hermitage St, Castleton with parents 1881 census Bewcastle CUM ENG farmer 39 acres Nether Oakshaw 2. Elizabeth ELLIOT b 15 Aug 1834 Bewcastle CUM ENG 1841 census Castleton Newcastleton Village, ROX, SCT 3 Mary ELLIOT d infancy before 1841 census; ????Sep qtr 1839 Longtown CUM Children of James ELLIOT & Helen HEWITSON/HOTSON/HUDSON 1. William ELLIOT (my direct line - Wm's dau & her husband & their children emig to AUS in 1913) b abt 1838 Castleton or in CUM (could be his birth as Helen & James not married in 1838 - but William ELLIOT was on his marriage & death certificate & father's name was James ELLIOT - "Dec qtr 1838 William HEWITSON - Whitehaven" (25/145 - free BMD site) 1841 census Castleton Newcastleton Village d 9 Jan 1909 9:25 p.m. Parkhouses, Hawick haemorrhage into spinal cord (accident) ploughman marr 30 Nov 1866 ROX Spouse Christina POW at Teviothead Smithy, Rox, SCT 2. %Robert ELLIOT b to James ELLIOT & Helen nee HUDSON chr 29 March 1840 Bewcastle ENG (IGI) 1841 census Castleton Newcastleton Village 1871 census Broadlie Castleton ; Robert an agricul lab 1881 census 7 Whitchester St Castleton; rly lab RAILWAY WAGGON EXAMINER d DIED 10TH OCTOBER 1930 AT 12 NOON AGE 90 DALGETY AVENUE,EDINBURGH,SCT marr 27 May 1870 Middlebie, DUM; SCT Spouse Agnes CARRUTHERS b abt 1847 to Wm CARRUTHERS & Helen ?ROME; d 13 Sept 1913 at 8:15p.m. aged 64 at Castleton 3. Nelly ELLIOT b abt 1875 Castleton 4. Mary ELLIOT b abt 1878 Castleton 5. Isabel(la) ELLIOT chr 7 Aug 1842 Castleton ROX 1861 census North Hermitage St, Castleton marr (IGI)aged 26 at marr; 12 Sep 1868 Bewcastle Spouse Robert KYLE aged 32 at marr; Spouse Details b 27 May 1833 Hawick; ??d 12 Jan 1874 Spouse Parents Adam KYLE & Helen DAVIDSON 6. James ELLIOT b abt 1847 Castleton ROX 1861 census North Hermitage St,Castleton 7. Mary ELLIOT b abt 1850 Castleton ROX (??28 April 1850 Bewcastle to James ELLIOTT & Ellen) 1861 census North Hermitage St, Castleton 8. Esther ELLIOT b 7 Oct 1855 Bewcastle to James ELLIOTT & Ellen d 23rd April 1882 Nether Oakshaw, Bewcastle, CUM 1861 census North Hermitage St, Castleton 1881 census with bro John on farm at Nether Oakshaw, Bew, CUM 9. Jane ELLIOT b 13 Jan 1858 Newcastleton, ROX, SCT 1861 census North Hermitage St, Castleton marr 19 yrs; 20 OCT 1877 Bewcastle, Cumberland Spouse John IRVING (IGI) Children of Jane & John: 1. Sarah - chr 10 March 1878 Bewcastle, ENG 10. Robina ELLIOT b 29 March 1861 Newcastleton 1861 census North Hermitage St, Castleton - 1 month old 1881 census with bro John on farm at Nether Oakshaw marr 12 Dec 1885 Bewcastle ENG Spouse Joseph FOSTER (IGI) .......... %Children of Robert ELLIOT & Agnes CARRUTHERS 1. James Graham ELLIOT, b 30 June 1870 7 p.m. at Breadlie, Castleton; railway engine driver; marr 6 Jan 1899 at McDonald's Hall, Musselburgh in Edinburgh; Spouse: Janet (Jessie) WISHART aged 22, dau of Andrew WISHART & Christina ORR, James G d 22 June 1906 Castleton (usual residence 15 Waverley Park, Abbyhill, Edinburgh, MID 2. William Carruthers ELLIOT; b abt 1873 Castleton; occup TAILOR & CLOTHIER; d 19 Nov 1924 aged 51 at 2 a.m. MILLNOCK HOUSE, NEWCASTLETON; marr 8 Oct 1909 St Cutherberts Church, Edinb., usual residence Castleton; Spouse Janet STITT aged 26 usual residence Newhouse, Newcastleton; Parents Wm STITT, gamekeeper & Mary PEARSON ........... Thanks Judy in Australia

Facial Expressions Run In The Family Cosmos, Jacqui Hayes, Oct. 17, 2006 Do you look like your father when you’re angry? Probably more than you’d imagined. Facial expressions may be inherited, Israeli researchers say. According to scientists, every person has a set of facial expressions that is unique to them, a signature of their identity that remains stable over time. Stable patterns of facial expressions arise before a baby is six months old, but until now, scientists were unsure whether these patterns were learned or innate. “We were interested to examine whether there is a unique family facial expression signature,” said lead author Gili Peleg from the University of Hafa in Israel. “We [correctly] assumed that we would find similarities between the facial expressions of relatives.” The study, which is published today in the U.S. journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, involved 21 participants who had been blind from birth, each with either one or two relatives who had normal vision. According to the researchers, blind individuals have no way of learning the facial expressions of their relatives by mimicry. The common perception that blind people touch other’s faces to sense their expressions was revealed to be, in fact, very impolite behaviour. Forty-three different facial movements were recorded, including movements such as: biting the lower lip on the left-hand side; moving the lips while pressed together, as though chewing; rolling the upper lip inside the mouth; sticking out the tongue slightly while touching both lips; and pulling down the corners of the mouth while pushing the chin forward. “These findings indicate the existence of a hereditary basis for facial expressions,” Peleg explained. When each emotional state was analysed separately, the computer correctly allocated the blind individual to his or her family most often for the negative emotion anger, at 75 per cent. To induce a state of anger, the researchers asked each person to relate a past experience which caused them to feel angry. The individuals were encouraged to use as much detail as possible in order to relive the experience. This was also how sadness and joy were induced. This study paves the way for discovery of the genes that influence facial expressions. According to the researchers, “Genes may control muscles’ and bones’ structure, innervation and even perception.” Further research will explore the evolutionary significance of these heritable facial expressions. Original article (Posted on October 19, 2006)

Hi Alison, Good to hear from you. If your photo is either Whithope or Whitrope I doubt it came from me. However if it's Riccarton it might well be. Either way I'd still love to see it. Regards Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland and Alison deCaen" <decaenr@shaw.ca> To: <border@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [BORDER] RE WHITHOPE/WHITEHOPE QUERY > How good to hear from you. I wrote that with one foot out the door and you > are probaby correct (just home) Indeed I guess it was you who shared the > picture with me, if not it was Graham and I was certainly going to > acknowledge the fact > How is your genealogy going. I have been very busygetting all the old > family > photos together and "bugging " cousins to share. I have done my maternal > line and sent the cousins discs with names of the people It was great fun > doing so especially mannaging to name some of the unknowns Now for my > Father's line > > We have just had "Thanksgiving" which we spent with my son and his family > Our daughter and friend was also there with their 4 huskies. We have a > Norwich terrier and our son 2 big dogs. 7 dogs - whew ! Walking this > morning > we looked like a kennel outing > > Must stop and unpack > Alison > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy" <roygraham@perkins9617.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <border@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [BORDER] RE WHITHOPE/WHITEHOPE QUERY > > >> Hi Alison, >> >> Really; why a railway village so far from a railway? Are you sure you're >> not >> thinking of Whitrope? 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