HI Arthur I have looked in the above books of MI's and there are no Ann Rankin entries in them. There are a couple of Rankin entries in the Yetholm book but they are much later than your Ann Rankin request. If anyone wants a look up in both books - that is Yetholm or Eckford, please let me know and I will put them on the list. Cheers Mandy Buchanan

Hi First of all - thank you Carmel - that has been a fantastic help - it throws up a relationship that I was trying to work out - it gives me the date of death of someone I had been trying to find and also mentions a couple of people that I didn't know about which is fantastic. Amazing stuff - thanks a lot. I notice that Arthur is interested in the Rankin entry - I have the death notice from Scotlands People which might help you. Registered in Lauder, Berwickshire Anne Cozens Rankin died 27th Aug 1914 - states she is married to George Rankin which usually means that he is still alive only problem is it is very faded and difficult to read and his profession stated looks like "MJS" - I don't know what that means. It states that they are living somewhere called Allanbank in Lauder. There is nothing else on the notice which would assist you with the Rankin side of things. Their marriage notice was in 1887 and is not really better to read but I will give you what I can see I think it was 13th April 1887 - I cant read the location and it was after Banns according to the Church of Scotland George Rankin - Writer to the Signet (that means he was a member of a society to which solicitors belonged) and he was a bachelor aged 34 years and his residence looks like 26 Judia Street Edinburgh - his father was William Thomson Rankin deceased and his profession is very difficult to read but looks like ***** to the Parliamentary Council - his mother appears to be Sheila Rankin ms Pringle One of the Witnesses is AJ Rankin - but it does not say whether this was male or female. I hope that helps. Certainly the family appear to be quite prominent in the area and so records may exist - Have you tried putting Ann Rankin into a free search of Testaments on the Scotland's People website. If the family were fairly wealthy then she may very well have left a will and the good thing about Scottish records is that women were listed under both their married and maiden names. Candy - I have been told that the Romanes were linked (at least in family legend) to the border gypsies. I have never come across anything to suggest this in my research but it has always been talked about in the family. I can only presume that the link was via a Romanis marriage - Joseph Romaines to Jane Winter in 1841. The Winter family were notorious in the borders, 3 of the same family being hanged for various crimes - and in the contemporary newspaper reports they were stated to be border gypsies. However, it is a good idea to look at these sites and I will try it - thank you. Thanks everyone for your help and if anyone thinks of anything else please let me know Cheers Mandy Buchanan

G'Day Carmel. Sorry I missed the original email, so I am as a loss to the gist of the inquiry, and on the aria of this list, I am mainly interested in the RANKIN entry. can you please help. Other names of interest are Barnes Ingels\Inglis Douglass Regards Arthur South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel Jones" <carmelitaj@eircom.net> To: <border@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [BORDER] Romaines again Hi Mandy Here goes. Lauder M.I.s No.71. In memory of JOHN ROMANES of Harryburn writer and town clerk Lauder born 18-6-1788 died 23-11-1859 and of ISABELLA A. MASON his wife born 11-6-1804 died 14-9-1887 here also are interred AGNES ROMANES born 1-1-1840 died 3-10-1840. JOHN ROMANES s.s.c.Edinburgh born 4-4-1830 died 29-9-1900 HELEN ROMANES born 16-11-1834 died 12-11-1908 ISABELLA ROMANES born 8-8-1846 died 14-1-1919. No.72. Here also are buried ROBERT ROMANES of Harryburn (eldest son of JOHN ROMANES who died 1859) writer and town clerk Lauder born 5-4-1827 died 28-7-1898 and ANNE M.T.COSENS his wifw born 10-4-1829 died 24-11-1902 and their only son JOHN born 7-9-1861 died 24-10-1861. No 73. And here also are buried ANNE COSENS ROMANES second daughter of ROBERT ROMANES of Harryburn and wife of GEORGE RANKIN writerto the signet born 8-7-1864 died 27-8-1914.CATHARINE ROMANES eldest daughter of the above ROBERT ROMANES born 30-8-1862 died 25-9-1931 and ISABELLA ROMANES third daughter of the above ROBERT ROMANES born 6-3-1868 died 26-6-1932. No. 79. To the memory of JAMES ROMANES of this place who died 23-6-1771 and ELIZABETH THOMSON his spouse who died 19-8-1757. GEORGE ROMANES their eldest son who died 25-1-1824 aged 76 and JEAN TAIT his spouse died25-2-1823 aged 72 also ROBERT ROMANES town clerk andburgess of Lauder their second son died 6-8-1810 aged 60 and AGNES SIMSON his spouse who died 3-5-1826 aged 67 also AGNES ROMANES his daughter who died 24-12-1850 aged 58. No.80. Erected to the memory of JOHN ROMANES esq. writer in Edinburgh who died 5-3-1849 in his 69th year. NO.222 Broken stone. Erected to the memory of CHARLES SIMSON esq. of Threepwood who died at Lauder 3-11-1831 aged 59 and of MARGARET ROMANES his wife who died 19-3-1863 aged 81. MARGARET their daughter who died 31-7-1832 aged 7 and of CHARLES SIMSON esq. of Threepwood and Bassendean their only son who died 8-4-1872 aged 50 and of their daughter JANET who died at Edinburgh 2-7-1888 aged 68 and their only other child JANE wife of the Revd. JOHN RANKINE d.d.Sorn died there 21-12-1879 aged 60. NO.226. Cross. Erected by the family of the late ROBERT ROMANES in memory of MARY VALLENCE who died at Harryburn 4-10-1925 for 63 years their faithful nurse and friend. On upright: JESSIE VALLENCE who died 27- 1- 1935. No.69. In memory of JANET THOMSON spouse to WILLIAM ROMANIS burgess in Lauder who died 18-7-1806 aged 66. No. 70. This is the burying place of Baillie WILLIAM ROMANIS burgis in Lauder. No. 75. In memory of ELIZABETH THOMSON spouse to ROBERT ROMANIS merchant in Lauder who died 16-11-1813 aged 37 also of the said ROBERT ROMANIS who died 8-4-1844 aged 77 also their daughter JANET ROMANIS 20-3-1872 and ELIZA ROMANIS died 21-2-1890. No.76. Here lyes the body of MARGARET THOMSON spouse to JOHN ROMANIS burgess of Lauder who died 21-9-1772 aged 23 also the foresaid JOHN ROMANIS who died 17-9-1807 aged 65 also of HELEN HENDERSON spouse and relict of the foresaid JOHN ROMANIS . Reverse: Here lies the body of ROBERT ROMANIS late baillie of Lauder died 27-10-1770 aged 68 and 2 days also MARGARET and JANE children of JOHN ROMANIS burgess of Lauder and also JEAN ALLEN spouse to ROBERT ROMANIS died31-5-1772 aged 57. Hope they are of some help. Regards Carmel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Arthur, Were any of your Rankin's in British Columbia? I was looking at a set of pictures that I received of my birthmother's family and there is a John (Johnny) Rankin in two of the pictures. These were taken circa 1932. If you think he might belong to you, I'd be happy to scan and email them to you. Diana Reno, NV S&A <starwall@optusnet.com.au> wrote: G'Day Carmel. Sorry I missed the original email, so I am as a loss to the gist of the inquiry, and on the aria of this list, I am mainly interested in the RANKIN entry. can you please help. Other names of interest are Barnes Ingels\Inglis Douglass Regards Arthur South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel Jones" To: Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [BORDER] Romaines again Hi Mandy Here goes. Lauder M.I.s No.71. In memory of JOHN ROMANES of Harryburn writer and town clerk Lauder born 18-6-1788 died 23-11-1859 and of ISABELLA A. MASON his wife born 11-6-1804 died 14-9-1887 here also are interred AGNES ROMANES born 1-1-1840 died 3-10-1840. JOHN ROMANES s.s.c.Edinburgh born 4-4-1830 died 29-9-1900 HELEN ROMANES born 16-11-1834 died 12-11-1908 ISABELLA ROMANES born 8-8-1846 died 14-1-1919. No.72. Here also are buried ROBERT ROMANES of Harryburn (eldest son of JOHN ROMANES who died 1859) writer and town clerk Lauder born 5-4-1827 died 28-7-1898 and ANNE M.T.COSENS his wifw born 10-4-1829 died 24-11-1902 and their only son JOHN born 7-9-1861 died 24-10-1861. No 73. And here also are buried ANNE COSENS ROMANES second daughter of ROBERT ROMANES of Harryburn and wife of GEORGE RANKIN writerto the signet born 8-7-1864 died 27-8-1914.CATHARINE ROMANES eldest daughter of the above ROBERT ROMANES born 30-8-1862 died 25-9-1931 and ISABELLA ROMANES third daughter of the above ROBERT ROMANES born 6-3-1868 died 26-6-1932. No. 79. To the memory of JAMES ROMANES of this place who died 23-6-1771 and ELIZABETH THOMSON his spouse who died 19-8-1757. GEORGE ROMANES their eldest son who died 25-1-1824 aged 76 and JEAN TAIT his spouse died25-2-1823 aged 72 also ROBERT ROMANES town clerk andburgess of Lauder their second son died 6-8-1810 aged 60 and AGNES SIMSON his spouse who died 3-5-1826 aged 67 also AGNES ROMANES his daughter who died 24-12-1850 aged 58. No.80. Erected to the memory of JOHN ROMANES esq. writer in Edinburgh who died 5-3-1849 in his 69th year. NO.222 Broken stone. Erected to the memory of CHARLES SIMSON esq. of Threepwood who died at Lauder 3-11-1831 aged 59 and of MARGARET ROMANES his wife who died 19-3-1863 aged 81. MARGARET their daughter who died 31-7-1832 aged 7 and of CHARLES SIMSON esq. of Threepwood and Bassendean their only son who died 8-4-1872 aged 50 and of their daughter JANET who died at Edinburgh 2-7-1888 aged 68 and their only other child JANE wife of the Revd. JOHN RANKINE d.d.Sorn died there 21-12-1879 aged 60. NO.226. Cross. Erected by the family of the late ROBERT ROMANES in memory of MARY VALLENCE who died at Harryburn 4-10-1925 for 63 years their faithful nurse and friend. On upright: JESSIE VALLENCE who died 27- 1- 1935. No.69. In memory of JANET THOMSON spouse to WILLIAM ROMANIS burgess in Lauder who died 18-7-1806 aged 66. No. 70. This is the burying place of Baillie WILLIAM ROMANIS burgis in Lauder. No. 75. In memory of ELIZABETH THOMSON spouse to ROBERT ROMANIS merchant in Lauder who died 16-11-1813 aged 37 also of the said ROBERT ROMANIS who died 8-4-1844 aged 77 also their daughter JANET ROMANIS 20-3-1872 and ELIZA ROMANIS died 21-2-1890. No.76. Here lyes the body of MARGARET THOMSON spouse to JOHN ROMANIS burgess of Lauder who died 21-9-1772 aged 23 also the foresaid JOHN ROMANIS who died 17-9-1807 aged 65 also of HELEN HENDERSON spouse and relict of the foresaid JOHN ROMANIS . Reverse: Here lies the body of ROBERT ROMANIS late baillie of Lauder died 27-10-1770 aged 68 and 2 days also MARGARET and JANE children of JOHN ROMANIS burgess of Lauder and also JEAN ALLEN spouse to ROBERT ROMANIS died31-5-1772 aged 57. Hope they are of some help. Regards Carmel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hugs, Diana Michael's Reno

Hi Mandy Here goes. Lauder M.I.s No.71. In memory of JOHN ROMANES of Harryburn writer and town clerk Lauder born 18-6-1788 died 23-11-1859 and of ISABELLA A. MASON his wife born 11-6-1804 died 14-9-1887 here also are interred AGNES ROMANES born 1-1-1840 died 3-10-1840. JOHN ROMANES s.s.c.Edinburgh born 4-4-1830 died 29-9-1900 HELEN ROMANES born 16-11-1834 died 12-11-1908 ISABELLA ROMANES born 8-8-1846 died 14-1-1919. No.72. Here also are buried ROBERT ROMANES of Harryburn (eldest son of JOHN ROMANES who died 1859) writer and town clerk Lauder born 5-4-1827 died 28-7-1898 and ANNE M.T.COSENS his wifw born 10-4-1829 died 24-11-1902 and their only son JOHN born 7-9-1861 died 24-10-1861. No 73. And here also are buried ANNE COSENS ROMANES second daughter of ROBERT ROMANES of Harryburn and wife of GEORGE RANKIN writerto the signet born 8-7-1864 died 27-8-1914.CATHARINE ROMANES eldest daughter of the above ROBERT ROMANES born 30-8-1862 died 25-9-1931 and ISABELLA ROMANES third daughter of the above ROBERT ROMANES born 6-3-1868 died 26-6-1932. No. 79. To the memory of JAMES ROMANES of this place who died 23-6-1771 and ELIZABETH THOMSON his spouse who died 19-8-1757. GEORGE ROMANES their eldest son who died 25-1-1824 aged 76 and JEAN TAIT his spouse died25-2-1823 aged 72 also ROBERT ROMANES town clerk andburgess of Lauder their second son died 6-8-1810 aged 60 and AGNES SIMSON his spouse who died 3-5-1826 aged 67 also AGNES ROMANES his daughter who died 24-12-1850 aged 58. No.80. Erected to the memory of JOHN ROMANES esq. writer in Edinburgh who died 5-3-1849 in his 69th year. NO.222 Broken stone. Erected to the memory of CHARLES SIMSON esq. of Threepwood who died at Lauder 3-11-1831 aged 59 and of MARGARET ROMANES his wife who died 19-3-1863 aged 81. MARGARET their daughter who died 31-7-1832 aged 7 and of CHARLES SIMSON esq. of Threepwood and Bassendean their only son who died 8-4-1872 aged 50 and of their daughter JANET who died at Edinburgh 2-7-1888 aged 68 and their only other child JANE wife of the Revd. JOHN RANKINE d.d.Sorn died there 21-12-1879 aged 60. NO.226. Cross. Erected by the family of the late ROBERT ROMANES in memory of MARY VALLENCE who died at Harryburn 4-10-1925 for 63 years their faithful nurse and friend. On upright: JESSIE VALLENCE who died 27- 1- 1935. No.69. In memory of JANET THOMSON spouse to WILLIAM ROMANIS burgess in Lauder who died 18-7-1806 aged 66. No. 70. This is the burying place of Baillie WILLIAM ROMANIS burgis in Lauder. No. 75. In memory of ELIZABETH THOMSON spouse to ROBERT ROMANIS merchant in Lauder who died 16-11-1813 aged 37 also of the said ROBERT ROMANIS who died 8-4-1844 aged 77 also their daughter JANET ROMANIS 20-3-1872 and ELIZA ROMANIS died 21-2-1890. No.76. Here lyes the body of MARGARET THOMSON spouse to JOHN ROMANIS burgess of Lauder who died 21-9-1772 aged 23 also the foresaid JOHN ROMANIS who died 17-9-1807 aged 65 also of HELEN HENDERSON spouse and relict of the foresaid JOHN ROMANIS . Reverse: Here lies the body of ROBERT ROMANIS late baillie of Lauder died 27-10-1770 aged 68 and 2 days also MARGARET and JANE children of JOHN ROMANIS burgess of Lauder and also JEAN ALLEN spouse to ROBERT ROMANIS died31-5-1772 aged 57. Hope they are of some help. Regards Carmel

Hi Yes please Carmen that would be fantastic - even if it only makes something impossible - that helps all the same. Thank You. Unfortunately yes Derek I have tried to do the BT's - we are lucky that the library here has quite a bit of stuff like that but unfortunately the baptisms and marriages that I need are from just before that and only fragments of the papers exist - very few of which are even guessable. I am lucky in that the family appear to have travelled about quite a bit - they were in Kelso and Lauder and Yetholm. I have one in Kelso in the Lieutenancy book 1799 which is a William Romanis - smith in Kelso (page 129) but he does not appear in any of the other stuff - wish he had been a bit more bolshy then he might have warranted a mention in the tellings off in other parts of the book. I don't know who he is but is most likely connected to the Simon Romanis and Mary Lang or Lamb who are in that area at the time. I have checked the Yetholm parish chest papers that are available in the National Archives Building in Edinburgh and came up with a couple of things which proves that they were about occasionally in that area. I have not had a chance to check the Kelso or Lauder areas yet but have it on my list of things to do. Thanks again for any contributions. Ideas about how to go about things are great, no matter how simple it may seem, I might not have thought of it. Cheers Mandy Buchanan

Hi -----Original Message----- From: mysticmandy_gingerwitch@hotmail.com To: border@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 3:12 PM Subject: [BORDER] Romaines again Hi Mandy -- forgive me for what may be a "dumb" question, but when I see a name like Romanis my first inclination is to assume there is a "gypsy" heritage. If that is the case (and I may well be wrong about that), have you checked some of the postings having to do with the romani tribes? There are some people following them...just a thought, which may be discardable, and may be one you've already followed up. Cheers from the USA -- Candy Yes please Carmen that would be fantastic - even if it only makes something impossible - that helps all the same. Thank You. Unfortunately yes Derek I have tried to do the BT's - we are lucky that the library here has quite a bit of stuff like that but unfortunately the baptisms and marriages that I need are from just before that and only fragments of the papers exist - very few of which are even guessable. I am lucky in that the family appear to have travelled about quite a bit - they were in Kelso and Lauder and Yetholm. I have one in Kelso in the Lieutenancy book 1799 which is a William Romanis - smith in Kelso (page 129) but he does not appear in any of the other stuff - wish he had been a bit more bolshy then he might have warranted a mention in the tellings off in other parts of the book. I don't know who he is but is most likely connected to the Simon Romanis and Mary Lang or Lamb who are in that area at the time. I have checked the Yetholm parish chest papers that are available in the National Archives Building in Edinburgh and came up with a couple of things which proves that they were about occasionally in that area. I have not had a chance to check the Kelso or Lauder areas yet but have it on my list of things to do. Thanks again for any contributions. Ideas about how to go about things are great, no matter how simple it may seem, I might not have thought of it. Cheers Mandy Buchanan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Hello Mandy I have the M.I.s for Lauder & there are 7 entries for Romanes & 4 entries for Romanis. I will pass them on to you if you wish Regards Carmel

Mandy, Have you tried to trace them through Bishop Transcripts, the Borer FHS or Northumberland Record office may be able to help you with the BTs and also with possible MI transcripts. An index to Kirknewton Bap, Mar and Bur was produced by Original Indexes and is now available from NDFHS who took over the OI material. It covers 1813- 1839. Hope this helps. Derek Cuthbert Mandy Buchanan wrote: > HI > > > > I was wondering if anyone could help. > > > > Me and a couple of other researchers are trying to piece together the > Romaines, or Romanis or Romanes family.(So far I have about 35 variants on > the name but those are the most common ones) > > > > We are stuck at a particular point because some church records were burnt > (Kirknewton) and so baptism records which would help us are missing. We > haven't given up though and are trying through other methods to try and > trace the parents of various different sections of the family. It is a > process of elimination really and can be quite frustrating. The family came > from all over the borders on both sides although they predominate in certain > areas. > > > > One of the things I have been told is that there are quite a few Romanis or > Romaines burials and monumental inscriptions in Lauder and I was wondering > if anyone had a record of them which would save me a long trip up there to > have a look. > > > > Also, if anyone is researching that name, then I have an enormous database > and 6 or 7 files full of stuff that I have accumulated over the years > referring to the name and would be more than willing to share it with > anyone. > > > > Thanks very much for your help > > > > Mandy Buchanan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

HI I was wondering if anyone could help. Me and a couple of other researchers are trying to piece together the Romaines, or Romanis or Romanes family.(So far I have about 35 variants on the name but those are the most common ones) We are stuck at a particular point because some church records were burnt (Kirknewton) and so baptism records which would help us are missing. We haven't given up though and are trying through other methods to try and trace the parents of various different sections of the family. It is a process of elimination really and can be quite frustrating. The family came from all over the borders on both sides although they predominate in certain areas. One of the things I have been told is that there are quite a few Romanis or Romaines burials and monumental inscriptions in Lauder and I was wondering if anyone had a record of them which would save me a long trip up there to have a look. Also, if anyone is researching that name, then I have an enormous database and 6 or 7 files full of stuff that I have accumulated over the years referring to the name and would be more than willing to share it with anyone. Thanks very much for your help Mandy Buchanan

Many thanks to Trish Lewis, Robert Telford and Susan Donaldson who kindly replied to my request for help in finding ANDREW RUTHERFORD BORN ABOUT 1725. I am most grateful for your suggestions. Arthur Rutherford.

Dear Andrew, Scottish Borders Archives & Local History Centre at Selkirk should be able to help. E-mail: archives@scotborders.gov.uk Good luck, Susan. -----Original Message----- From: border-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:border-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Rutherford Sent: 13 November 2006 22:29 To: Rootsweb BordersL Subject: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD I wonder if some kind researcher could help me to find the birth and/or marriage and/or death of ANDREW RUTHERFORD in the Jedburgh area ? (Birth about 1752 and Marriage about 1750) ANDREW RUTHERFORD and his wife ISOBEL SCOT had children : George b. 2.8.1752 C. 13.9.1752 Walter b.5.7.1754 C. 14.7.1754 Andrew b. 29.3.1757 C. 10.4.1757 Robert b. 11.2.1760 Thomas b. 10.12.1763 C. 19.12.1763 All these were found on the Film No. 559522 Associate Session Congregation, Jedburgh. All the children were listed as being born at Hundhaughlee, Jedburgh except the first child George. For him it just gave Birth and Christening then Associate Session Congregation. I would be very grateful for any help or if someone could suggest where I could search to find them, that would be helpful too. Many thanks. Arthur Rutherford Poole, Dorset. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 08/11/2006 13:40 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 08/11/2006 13:40

Hi Trish, Have you tried Genes Reunited? I was able to connect with my birthfather's family who still live in the same little town in Scotland. They remember my grandfather. You upload your family and Genes Reunited matches you with others that may or may not be related. Diana Reno, NV Trish Lewis <trishlewis@accesswave.ca> wrote: Hi Diana Don't mind at all. Thank you for the email. I'm at a brick wall with my SINCLAIR's right now. The only relative I know of Duncan's is his brother Archibald and all their descendants. There is not one James in there. My SINCLAIR's originated from Perthshire. Duncan ended up being a gardener at the Mellerstain Estate in Gordon, Berwickshire, while Archibald became a gardener at the Bonnington Estate in Lanark. I'm sure there must have been more siblings for Duncan & Archibald as there was about 10 years between the birth of the two. (1750 & 1761) But, I'm having trouble finding out who their parents were. I'm sure if there were other brothers, they were likely gardeners at large estates. Seems to run in the family. If I come across your James during my research, I'll definitely get back to you. Sorry I wasn't of much help. Trish -------Original Message------- From: Diana Ellison Date: 11/13/06 23:58:29 To: border@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD Hi Trish, Hope you don't mind if I jump in here and ask if your Duncan Sinclair had any relatives named James. My gggaunt, Elizabeth Lidgate, married a James Sinclair (b. 1822) in 1862 at Graebridge, Borthwick. He was a powdermaker. Diana To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hugs, Diana Michael's Reno ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hugs, Diana Michael's Reno

Hi Diana Don't mind at all. Thank you for the email. I'm at a brick wall with my SINCLAIR's right now. The only relative I know of Duncan's is his brother Archibald and all their descendants. There is not one James in there. My SINCLAIR's originated from Perthshire. Duncan ended up being a gardener at the Mellerstain Estate in Gordon, Berwickshire, while Archibald became a gardener at the Bonnington Estate in Lanark. I'm sure there must have been more siblings for Duncan & Archibald as there was about 10 years between the birth of the two. (1750 & 1761) But, I'm having trouble finding out who their parents were. I'm sure if there were other brothers, they were likely gardeners at large estates. Seems to run in the family. If I come across your James during my research, I'll definitely get back to you. Sorry I wasn't of much help. Trish -------Original Message------- From: Diana Ellison Date: 11/13/06 23:58:29 To: border@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD Hi Trish, Hope you don't mind if I jump in here and ask if your Duncan Sinclair had any relatives named James. My gggaunt, Elizabeth Lidgate, married a James Sinclair (b. 1822) in 1862 at Graebridge, Borthwick. He was a powdermaker. Diana To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hugs, Diana Michael's Reno

http://jocko.dyndns.org/rutherford/index.html<http://jocko.dyndns.org/rutherford/index.html> The attached does not answer your question but offers info on Thomas Rutherford who emigrated to Ontario, Canada. Many of his relatives eventually followed him to the Owen Sound area. Robert Telford

I wonder if some kind researcher could help me to find the birth and/or marriage and/or death of ANDREW RUTHERFORD in the Jedburgh area ? (Birth about 1752 and Marriage about 1750) ANDREW RUTHERFORD and his wife ISOBEL SCOT had children : George b. 2.8.1752 C. 13.9.1752 Walter b.5.7.1754 C. 14.7.1754 Andrew b. 29.3.1757 C. 10.4.1757 Robert b. 11.2.1760 Thomas b. 10.12.1763 C. 19.12.1763 All these were found on the Film No. 559522 Associate Session Congregation, Jedburgh. All the children were listed as being born at Hundhaughlee, Jedburgh except the first child George. For him it just gave Birth and Christening then Associate Session Congregation. I would be very grateful for any help or if someone could suggest where I could search to find them, that would be helpful too. Many thanks. Arthur Rutherford Poole, Dorset.

Hi Trish, Hope you don't mind if I jump in here and ask if your Duncan Sinclair had any relatives named James. My gggaunt, Elizabeth Lidgate, married a James Sinclair (b. 1822) in 1862 at Graebridge, Borthwick. He was a powdermaker. Diana Trish Lewis <trishlewis@accesswave.ca> wrote: Hi Arthur. It's Trish Lewis. Don't know if you remember, but you took a couple of photo's of Poolw, Dorset, for me and sent them to me. I was telling you that I think my MacDougall's of Kelso are somehow connected to the Rutherfords. Just wondering, did you see this will on the scotlandspeople site: 8RutherfordAndrew27/10/1828roadmaker, residing at BarnhillsInventory; TestamentJedburgh Sheriff CourtSC62/44/1VIEW (£5.00) (19 pages) http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Might be worthwhile looking at. 19 pages worth. If not senior, it could be junior, and he may mention family. I've found the wills to be extremely helpful. Sometimes you don't hit the right one, but when you do, wow, the information you get is amazing. My ancestor Duncan Sinclair listed all his children, in-laws, and uncle, and all his grandchildren. Wonderful. It's only five pounds to take the chance Let me know how you make out. Trish LEWIS Nova Scotia Canada -------Original Message------- From: Arthur Rutherford Date: 11/13/06 18:38:22 To: Rootsweb BordersL Subject: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD I wonder if some kind researcher could help me to find the birth and/or marriage and/or death of ANDREW RUTHERFORD in the Jedburgh area ? (Birth about 1752 and Marriage about 1750) ANDREW RUTHERFORD and his wife ISOBEL SCOT had children : George b. 2.8.1752 C. 13.9.1752 Walter b.5.7.1754 C. 14.7.1754 Andrew b. 29.3.1757 C. 10.4.1757 Robert b. 11.2.1760 Thomas b. 10.12.1763 C. 19.12.1763 All these were found on the Film No. 559522 Associate Session Congregation, Jedburgh. All the children were listed as being born at Hundhaughlee, Jedburgh except the first child George. For him it just gave Birth and Christening then Associate Session Congregation. I would be very grateful for any help or if someone could suggest where I could search to find them, that would be helpful too. Many thanks. Arthur Rutherford Poole, Dorset. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hugs, Diana Michael's Reno

Hi Arthur. It's Trish Lewis. Don't know if you remember, but you took a couple of photo's of Poolw, Dorset, for me and sent them to me. I was telling you that I think my MacDougall's of Kelso are somehow connected to the Rutherfords. Just wondering, did you see this will on the scotlandspeople site: 8RutherfordAndrew27/10/1828roadmaker, residing at BarnhillsInventory; TestamentJedburgh Sheriff CourtSC62/44/1VIEW (£5.00) (19 pages) http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Might be worthwhile looking at. 19 pages worth. If not senior, it could be junior, and he may mention family. I've found the wills to be extremely helpful. Sometimes you don't hit the right one, but when you do, wow, the information you get is amazing. My ancestor Duncan Sinclair listed all his children, in-laws, and uncle, and all his grandchildren. Wonderful. It's only five pounds to take the chance Let me know how you make out. Trish LEWIS Nova Scotia Canada -------Original Message------- From: Arthur Rutherford Date: 11/13/06 18:38:22 To: Rootsweb BordersL Subject: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD I wonder if some kind researcher could help me to find the birth and/or marriage and/or death of ANDREW RUTHERFORD in the Jedburgh area ? (Birth about 1752 and Marriage about 1750) ANDREW RUTHERFORD and his wife ISOBEL SCOT had children : George b. 2.8.1752 C. 13.9.1752 Walter b.5.7.1754 C. 14.7.1754 Andrew b. 29.3.1757 C. 10.4.1757 Robert b. 11.2.1760 Thomas b. 10.12.1763 C. 19.12.1763 All these were found on the Film No. 559522 Associate Session Congregation, Jedburgh. All the children were listed as being born at Hundhaughlee, Jedburgh except the first child George. For him it just gave Birth and Christening then Associate Session Congregation. I would be very grateful for any help or if someone could suggest where I could search to find them, that would be helpful too. Many thanks. Arthur Rutherford Poole, Dorset. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much for the link, I was able to find several Huggan family members from Hawick arrive in Boston via Liverpool, very interesting site and free for now, Amanda. ----- Original Message ----- From: "fionnghal nicphadraig" <fionnghalnicphadraig@yahoo.co.uk> To: "BORDER-L" <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: [BORDER] ancestry free access - emigrants > free search for emigrants till end Nov > > http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ > > :-) > fionnghal > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

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