Hello I am the coordinator for Northumberland for Freg Reg and I wanted to check with members of this list if anyone who has access to parish registers would be willing to transcribe a parish or partial parish for submission to Free Reg. Alternatively if anyone as fiche copies of registers they would be willing to loan for transcription. Please contact me off list if you are able to help. Regards Linda Beckett __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello Margaret, We have been in contact before, but I wonder if you have unearthed any connections to my RUTHERFORDS in JEDBURGH between 1725 and 1763 onwards ? The family I am researching is : ANDREW RUTHERFORD married to Isobel Scot about 1750 Their children were all born at Hundhaughlee (Hunderlee today). George 1752 Walter 1754 Andrew 1757 Robert 1760 Thomas 1763 Greetings for Christmas. Arthur Rutherford Poole, Dorset, England.

Hello William, I saw your query in the Borders Magazine, June 2005 searching for RUTHERFORD My RUTHERFORDS were in the Jedburgh area Rox. From the early 1700's until at least 1763. They were : ANDREW RUTHERFORD married to Isobel Scot in about 1750. There children were : George 1752 Walter 1754 Andrew 1757 Robert 1760 Thomas 1763 Do you have any links with this family ? Greetings for Christmas. Arthur Rutherford Poole, Dorset. England.

Hello Patricia, I saw your query in the Borders Magazine, October 2006. I have a GEORGE RUTHERFORD in my Family Tree born 2 Aug 1752 at Hundhaughlee, Jedburgh, Rox. He was the first son of Andrew Rutherford and Isobel Scot. They had other children : Walter 5 July 1754 Andrew 29 march 1757 Robert 11 Feb 1760 Thomas 10 Dec 1763 Please contact me if you think you have a link. I am desperately searching for the birth of ANDREW RUTHERFORD about 1725 and his marriage to Isobel Scot about 1750. Are there any listers who can help in this search please ? Greetings and all good wishes for Christmas. Arthur Rutherford Poole, Dorset, England.

there was no mention of Scotland, so i imagine it only applies to Eng/Wls censuses. we have a different legal system as you surmised. so you'll get the ones on the south side of the borders but not the north side.. unless Scotland decides to join the bandwaggon. but i wouldn't hold my breath. as most people living around the borders had relatives on the south side as well as the north, i thought it worth passing on the news. :-) le durachd fionnghal --- Gordon Johnson <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> wrote: > Does the same > ruling affect the Scottish Census, which is held by > the National Archives of Scotland? Or does it require a seperate ruling? > Gordon Johnson. ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html

*** The press release from the Society of Genealogists only refers to the National Archives, which covers England and Wales. Does the same ruling affect the Scottish Census, which is held by the National Archives of Scotland? Or does it require a seperate ruling? Gordon Johnson.

News from the SoG. THE FREEDOM of INFORMATION COMMISSIONER HAS DECIDED THAT LIMITED ACCESS CAN BE MADE TO INFORMATION FROM THE 1911 CENSUS. The National Archived released the following press release http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/13dec2006.pdf The Society of Genealogists met with TNA on 13 December and was delighted to learn that the effect of the decision means that The National Archives must supply SOME information from the 1911 in response to Freedom of Information (FOI) requests. Family Historians and other searchers will be able, from 17 January 2007, to pay for searches in the census from the TNA paid research service at a cost of £45 per address search. Sensitive information will be redacted (i.e. blacked out) from the census information given to the recipient. Note that until the census is fully digitised searches can only be made using addresses and not surnames. Hence searches must be made using the special online census search request forms that will be made available on TNA's web site in January. See the 1911 FAQ http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help/1911census/faq-foi.htm for more information on making a search request. The Census will not be made available in microform nor will public access be allowed to the original returns. TNA is developing a digitised online 1911service and is speeding up the process. It hopes that a limited online search facility will be ready in 2009 with some key sensitive information (such as infirmity or mental condition) withheld until the release of the full census in 2012. Genealogists will no doubt find the online search facility quicker, cheaper and easier to use than the paid search requests and will probably wait until the full index is available in 2009. Further notes on access to the census are available on TNA?s website http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/1911census/?homepage=news The Information Commissioners decision is available online at http://www.ico.gov.uk/tools_and_resources/decision_notices/2006_12.aspx ___________________________________________________________ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

> Still looking for ancestors , but have had no success .for some >> time now , hope someone else has started looking for the below people >> >> >> Archibald Anderson br Norham 01 09 1793 [ father John >>>> Anderson mother Mary Fairbairn ] >>>> wife Elizabeth Aitchison br Dodd >>>> >>>> Thomas br 14 11 1820 >>>> John br 18 01 1822 [ wife Isabella >>>> Watson br Scotland ?? ] >>>> Adam 11 o1 1823 [ a sailor ] >>>> Mary 23 02 1824 br Berwick upon >>>> Tweed >> possible >> married >> Alexander Briggs at Lambert Toll ] >>>> Margaret 24 03 1825 br B upon T >>>> William 01 03 1829 br B upon T >> [ [ 1851 census Schoolmaster >> Tweedsmouth } >>>> Archbold 28 07 1832 br >> [ MY LINE I have up to me ] married >> Margaret Lyall >> father James Lyall >> , mother Christina Clark ] >>>> Elizabeth --- 10 1834 br B upon T >>>> >>>> Hoping this will generate some help >>>> >> WALLY >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List ==== >>>> Visit: >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/ >>>> for initial information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List ==== >> Visit: >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/ >> for information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Regarding the Scottish Money, I have saved the links and will look at them once I finish my set of shifts on Wednesday Thanks very much for the information - hopefully the Will will become clearer as a result. I too have one that is written in Latin and another that is written in really old script so I might be busy for a while deciphering them - still it will keep me out of trouble. Thanks again Regards Mandy

Hi, Mandy - for a Scots currency converter, try www.scan.org.uk SCAN is the Scottish Archive Network site. For handwriting have a look at www.scottishhandwriting.com Hope they help. Susan -----Original Message----- From: border-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:border-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mandy Buchanan Sent: 01 December 2006 08:13 To: border@rootsweb.com Subject: [BORDER] Old Scottish Money Hello Is there anyone out there who is either able to translate old Scottish money for me or that knows of a link where it is explained. I have been looking for a will for the time of around 1720 to 1730 and the numbers look very strange - they look like b's I's and j's which I think refers to pounds shillings and pence in that order but I could be completely wrong. Also is there anything on the web that explains how dates were written. There is a word on the will which I cant make out but appears to refer to the dates that things happened as the numbers after this word are clearly indicating dates. It appears to mean 16 but I don't want to assume that. Thanks for your assistance. Regards Mandy Buchanan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 26/11/2006 11:30 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 26/11/2006 11:30

Still looking for ancestors , but have had no success .for some > time now , hope someone else has started looking for the below people > > > Archibald Anderson br Norham 01 09 1793 [ father John >>> Anderson mother Mary Fairbairn ] >>> wife Elizabeth Aitchison br Dodd >>> >>> Thomas br 14 11 1820 >>> John br 18 01 1822 [ wife Isabella >>> Watson br Scotland ?? ] >>> Adam 11 o1 1823 [ a sailor ] >>> Mary 23 02 1824 br Berwick upon >>> Tweed > possible >> married > Alexander Briggs at Lambert Toll ] >>> Margaret 24 03 1825 br B upon T >>> William 01 03 1829 br B upon T > [ [ 1851 census Schoolmaster > Tweedsmouth } >>> Archbold 28 07 1832 br > [ MY LINE I have up to me ] >>> married Margaret Lyall > father James Lyall > mother Christina Clark ] >>> Elizabeth --- 10 1834 br B upon T >>> >>> Hoping this will generate some help >>> > WALLY >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List ==== >>> Visit: >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/ >>> for initial information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK >>> >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List ==== > Visit: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > for information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK > >

The use of the letters i and j actually mean the same. The usage for 1,2,3,4, was i, then ij, then iij, then iv. The pounds shillings and pence for centuries was Li (probably what you read as b) s was shillings, and d. was pence. As this goes back to Roman times, the d. meant denarius (a penny); but Li meant Livre, the French for pound. The shilling name was imported from England, so the whole set is an international muddle! Gordon.

Hi, I've been trying to translate a will from the 1749s and have the same problem. That was until I went to www.scottishdocuments.com and went to the section on "sums of money". The rest of the will is in Latin, what a pain............................................fun though! Regards Steve Ridpath ======================================== Message Received: Dec 01 2006, 08:19 AM From: "Mandy Buchanan" To: border@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [BORDER] Old Scottish Money Hello Is there anyone out there who is either able to translate old Scottish money for me or that knows of a link where it is explained. I have been looking for a will for the time of around 1720 to 1730 and the numbers look very strange - they look like b's I's and j's which I think refers to pounds shillings and pence in that order but I could be completely wrong. Also is there anything on the web that explains how dates were written. There is a word on the will which I cant make out but appears to refer to the dates that things happened as the numbers after this word are clearly indicating dates. It appears to mean 16 but I don't want to assume that. Thanks for your assistance. Regards Mandy Buchanan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have Helen FORSYTH who married James CHISHOLM ? Helen died 1952 age 75 yrs . She Nursed Thomas Forsyth DODDS , a retired Farmer from Australia, he was born Stow July 1880, & died 1941, 4 Staion road Stow. The informant was James Chisholm friend. I assume this was the husband of Helen. Thomas Forsyth Dodds, was the illegitimate son of Janet DODDS & James Thomson. He was born 1880, Stow, & obviously returned home to Scotland to die. Janet DODDS his Mother, was the daughter of Janet DODDS & stepdaughter of Thomas FORSYTH(E), who married in Stow 1861. Mary New Zealand

Hi I have this Christina CHISHOLM in my stray CHISHOLM file. Her mother's ms is Christina FRIER in my info. More info if anyone wants it. Mandy Buchanan wrote: > > >Christina CHISHOLM born 17th June 1887 1050am at 9 Queen Street, Galashiels > >Father - Archibald CHISHOLM, Wool Spinner > >Mother - Christina CHISHOLM ms ?Shiel? > >Married 15th July 1873 at Galashiels > >Informant - Archibald CHISHOLM, father > > > > > > > > > >Cheers Mandy Buchanan > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 0652-5, 01/12/2006 >Tested on: 01/12/2006 14:21:58 >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > > > -- Best Wishes, Kit & Doug Leitch Solihull UK

Hi Here are the last lot for now Alexander ROMANES born 10th July 1876 715am at 7 Overhaugh Street, Galashiels Father - William ROMANES, Common Labourer Mother - Elizabeth ROMANES, ms MURRAY Married 8th December 1865 at Wilton Informant - William ROMANES, father William Donald MOIR borh 5th July 1876 at 625am at ?Laid? unreadable, School House, Galashiels Father - Charles Caithness MOIR, Schoolmaster Mother - Susannah MOIR ms SPENSE Married September 24th 1875 at Edinburgh Informant - Charles MOIR, father, (present) Robert Amos TURNER born 5th July 1876 at 330 am at Tweed Bridge, Galashiels Father - William TURNER, Roadman Mother - Matilda Mitchell TURNER ms AMOS Married June 30th 1871 at Hobkirk Informant - William TURNER, father In all three cases, the name of the registrar is very hard to read and could be either Geo Parker, Tasker or could be something else entirely!"! Annie YELLOWLEES born 23rd February 1866 815am at 35 Bank Street, Galashiels Father Alexander YELLOWLEES General Merchant Mother Ann YELLOWLEES, ms BOWES Married 6th October 1853 at Dalkeith Informant Alexander YELLOWLEES, father present Alexander Hope ROMANES, born 14th February 1866 7pm at 21 Elm Road, Galashiels Father - Alexander ROMANES, Engineman in Wool Factory Mother - Isabella ROMANES ms GROSART Married 22nd June 1854 at Galashiels Informant Isabella ROMANES, mother Janet REAVELY born 1st March 1866 8pm at Elm Road, Galashiels Father - Adam REAVELY Engineer Mother - Jessie REAVELY ms RANKIN Married 22nd June 1852 at Galashiels Informant Adam REAVELY, father Registrar as above only this time it also looks like SAKER - any guesses? District of Lauder, County of Berwick Isabella ROMANES, vaccinated as per certificate dated 7th August 1868 - WM Regr - born 6th March 1868 325am at Harryburn, Lauder Father Robert ROMANES, writer Mother - Anne Milne Thomson ROMANES, ms COSENS Married 17th July 1869 at Edinburgh Informant Robert ROMANES, father Helen FAIRBAIRN, illegitimate, died before vaccination WM regr - born 24th January 1868 1am at Lauder Father Mother - Helen FAIRBAIRN, Domestic Servant Informant Helen FAIRBAIRN, mother Jessie Hall HENDERSON vaccinated as per certificate dated 21st August 1868 WM Regr - born 6th March 1868 at 4am at ?Whitelaw? Father John HENDERSON, Hind Mother - Jane HENDERSON ms SANDILANDS Married 1860 Parish of Channelkirk Informant John HENDERSON, father In all three cases the assistant registrar was George ANDERSON and the Registrar was William MOORE District of Roberton County of Selkirk Margaret TURNBULL, illegitimate, born 29th December 1864 9pm at Deanburnhough Father Mother - Christina TURNBULL, Domestic Servant Informant - David TURNBULL, Uncle Jessie BORTHWICK, born 10th January 1865 340am at Greenbank Cottages Father - James BORTHWICK Labourer Mother - Janet BORTHWICK ms ELLIOT Married 10th March 1854 at Book Mills??? Parish of L?? (really hard to read) Informant James BORTHWICK, father Jane Stewart ROMANES, illegitimate, born 5th January 1865 11am at Highchester Cottages Father Mother - Christina ROMANES, Servant Informant - Christian ROMAINES, Mother All three were registered at the Schoolhouse at Roberton by Thos ANDERSON, registrar That's it for now More another time If anyone is interested in the ROMANES entries, I can give you more information about those individuals, but I don't have any further information on the other entries, sorry Cheers Mandy Buchanan

Hi - here are the next three - district Galashiels Alison REDPATH born 5th June 1887 1am at 21 Douglas Street, Galashiels Father - Gorge REDPATH, Woollen Warper Mother - Alison REDPATH ms RUTHERFORD Married 9th October 1886 at Galashiels Informant George REDPATH, father Christina CHISHOLM born 17th June 1887 1050am at 9 Queen Street, Galashiels Father - Archibald CHISHOLM, Wool Spinner Mother - Christina CHISHOLM ms ?Shiel? Married 15th July 1873 at Galashiels Informant - Archibald CHISHOLM, father Agnes Lees ROMANES born 20th June 1887 1am at 130 Galapark Road, Galashiels Father - William ROMANES Wool Factory Worker Mother - Elizabeth ROMANES, ms MURRAY Married 8th December 1865 at Wilton Informant - William ROMANES, father All three cases, the registrar is WILLIAM LOCKHART Cheers Mandy Buchanan

Hi - here are the next three Births District of Galashiels, County of Selkirk John O'HARA born 17th December 1891 6am at 138 Lintburn Street, Galashiels Father - Neil OHARA, Woollen Pressman Mother - Julia OHARA ms REILLY Married 14th July 1885 at Ladhope Informant Neil OHARA, father Adam ROMANES (Illegitimate) born 1st January 1892 1am at 9 Bank Close, Galashiels Father - Adam ROMANES Quarryman Mother - Agnes ROBERTSON, Wool Powerloom Weaver Informants - Agnes ROBERTSON, mother and ADAM ROMANES, father of 139 Bank Close, Galashiels James Knox BROWN born 21st December 1891 6am at 41 Magdala Tce, Galashiels Father - Alexander BROWN, Wool Factory Worker Mother - Agnes BROWN ms KNOX Married 27th December 1889 at Caddonfoot Informant Alexander BROWN, father In all three cases the registrar is WILLIAM LOCKHART Cheers Mandy Buchanan

Hi - here is another lot Births Ladhope, County of Selkirk 1882 Ann Davis KENNEDY born 18th August 1882 1am at 81 High Buckholmsides, Ladhope Father - Thomas KENNEDY, joiner Mother - Jessie KENNEDY ms FORD Married 18th August 1880 at Ambleston, South Wales Informant - Thos Kennedy, father Andrew Sanderson ROMANES (illegitimate) born 17th August 1882 4pm at 124 Magdala Tce, Ladhope Father - Mother - Jane ROMANES, Millworker Informant - Jane Romanes, Mother Mary RIGG born 16th August 1882 at 9am at 79 Magdala Tce, Ladhope Father - John RIGG, Woollen Weaver Mother - Isabella RIGG ms TAIT Married 10th March 1865 at New Abbey Informant - John RIGG, father In all three cases the registrar was GEO RANKIN Regards Mandy Buchanan

HI Just been transcribing some of my lot and so thought you might want to have the details of the others on the pages Births Crailing Roxburgh 1873 George Duncan FORGIE - born 31st July 1873 150am at School House, Crailing Father - George FORGIE, schoolmaster Mother - Catherine FORGIE, ms MCLAREN Married 13th or 15th January 1871 at Blair Athol Informant - Catherine FORGIE, mother William ROMANES - born 11th September 1873 1045 am at Crailing Father - William ROMANES - Joiner (Master) Mother - Agnes ROMANES ms HUME Married 5th March 1872 at Eckford Informant - William ROMANIS, father (note the spelling = two different ways on the same certificate however this is not the record!!) Margaret BROWN borh 21st September 1873 1130am at ??Nesbit Mill, Crailing Father Walter BROWN, ploughman Mother Janet BROWN ms MCDOUGALL Married April 1871 at Lambdin? Parish of Eccles Informant Walter BROWN, father (present) In all three cases above the Registrar was Geo FORGIE - could be the same person as the father of the first entry? There are some more but I tried to post the whole lot together and they didn't come through as the file was too big so I will send them in separate lots Cheers Mandy Buchanan