Dear Listers, Could anyone tell me whether there are transcriptions of Cornhill burials. I am interested in a gravestone for Andrew 1812-1865 and Agnes Donaldson(nee Lewins) 1814-1885, which I believe may still be extant. Can anyone help me Please? Also are there any old photos of Donaldson's Lodge? Best wishes, mary

Further to my earlier posting tonight, here is Thomas KENNEDY's father, plus details of Thomas' siblings: Thomas KENNEDY, born about 1778 in Goswick, Northumberland. Children were: John Kennedy (born about 1803), Berwick. Thomas KENNEDY (born about 1807), Tweedmouth. Watson Kennedy (born about 1809), Tweedmouth Peter Kennedy

Hello fionnghal, Heather and all who responded to my recent posting. Thanks for all replies to my recent posting . Yes you're quite right, I omitted to give the details of Thomas KENNEDY and his family. Here they are at the time of the 1871 census: South Shields, Durham Thomas Kennedy Head 63yrs Joiner b.Tweedmouth Elizabeth Kennedy Wife 60yrs ------------b.North Shields Emma Kennedy Dau 18yrs ------------b.North Shields Alexander Kennedy Son 16yrs Mariner b.North Shields I'd be pleased to hear if anyone has any details of where he might have been baptised. Thanks Peter Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: "fionnghal nicphadraig" <fionnghalnicphadraig@yahoo.co.uk> To: <border@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [BORDER] Reposting interests in Kennedy .... >i always reckon the nearer a census is to the child's > birth the more likely it is to be accurate. in this > case, unless the parents didn't understand the > question, it says Not of this County, which suggests > the child was not born in born in NBL but certainly > brought up in the Berwick area of NBL, probably having > moved there with his family while very young and no > memory of having lived elsehere - hence the later > entries saying eh was born there. even parents with > big families can get confused as to where each > individual was born if they've moved a couple of > times. > > the other one i've had, and this may be annother > example, is that each time the parents moved they put > down their previous abode against 'where they were > from', instead of their place of birth ... it happens! > > But really, you'd be better to supply a bit more info. > folk may well not recognise an individual from his > place of birth in censuses, but they may recognise a > whole family, occupations &c, partner's name. and > an approximate d.o.b. would be a help too. > > it's always worth spending a bit of time on your > request if you hope to stimulate recognition > > le durachd > fionnghal :-) > >> The problem is, he keeps changing his mind about >> where he was born (!!): >> >> Census 1881 ( 5012-111-52) has Thomas born in >> Tweedmouth. >> Census 1871 (5037-80-29) his b/p was Tweedmouth >> Census 1861 (3794-6-5) has him born Berwick on > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! > Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 28/05/2007 > 11:40 > >

I know that your sig block is Gaelic, but can you translate for me Chris Smith Grenada Nth CDC Manager -----Original Message----- From: border-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:border-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of fionnghal nicphadraig Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 12:11 p.m. To: border@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BORDER] Reposting interests in Kennedy .... thanks Heather, a map would have been good, but the table is very helpful :-) le durachd fionghal > Here is a web page that gives the information, but > not a map unfortunately > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/REG/districts/berwick.html ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.htm l ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

--- chris smith <clkts@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > I know that your sig block is Gaelic, but can you > translate for me certainly :-) le durachd [lit: 'with a wish' equates with English 'best wishes'] fionnghal [my name] ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

thanks Heather, a map would have been good, but the table is very helpful :-) le durachd fionghal > Here is a web page that gives the information, but > not a map unfortunately > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/REG/districts/berwick.html ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html

is that right, i knew bits of NBL had at one time been in Co Durham, but i never thought of Berwick area. so, he probably was born there. did DUR sort of encircle Northumberland? do you know of there's an online map which shows the old Co Duham boundaries? i'm sure it'd be a great help to folk. it'd certainly help me :-) le durachd :-) fionnghal > Tweedmouth in 1841 would be in Co Durham > administratively, so they were correct in saying that he wasn't born in Northumberland > > Heather ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html

i always reckon the nearer a census is to the child's birth the more likely it is to be accurate. in this case, unless the parents didn't understand the question, it says Not of this County, which suggests the child was not born in born in NBL but certainly brought up in the Berwick area of NBL, probably having moved there with his family while very young and no memory of having lived elsehere - hence the later entries saying eh was born there. even parents with big families can get confused as to where each individual was born if they've moved a couple of times. the other one i've had, and this may be annother example, is that each time the parents moved they put down their previous abode against 'where they were from', instead of their place of birth ... it happens! But really, you'd be better to supply a bit more info. folk may well not recognise an individual from his place of birth in censuses, but they may recognise a whole family, occupations &c, partner's name. and an approximate d.o.b. would be a help too. it's always worth spending a bit of time on your request if you hope to stimulate recognition le durachd fionnghal :-) > The problem is, he keeps changing his mind about > where he was born (!!): > > Census 1881 ( 5012-111-52) has Thomas born in > Tweedmouth. > Census 1871 (5037-80-29) his b/p was Tweedmouth > Census 1861 (3794-6-5) has him born Berwick on ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

The last posting to this list I made concerning KENNEDY in the Border areas was 22nd July 2002. I'm still trying to find anyone who might know and have access to details please about the following Thomas KENNEDY. The problem is, he keeps changing his mind about where he was born (!!): Census 1881 ( 5012-111-52) has Thomas born in Tweedmouth. Census 1871 (5037-80-29) his b/p was Tweedmouth Census 1861 (3794-6-5) has him born Berwick on Tweed Census 1851 ( 2410-229-11) birth place North Shields Census 1841 ( 825/10 38-22) which did not record specific birthplaces,has him "not born in the (Northumberland) county. Thanks Peter Kennedy (Buckinghamshire)

fionnghal The change accurred in 1844 so the 1841 CENSUS should indicate that a person was born in Co Durham Here is a web page that gives the information, but not a map unfortunately http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/REG/districts/berwick.html I only discovered this because of my 3 x great grandmother Annie Aynsley being born in Norham Heather fionnghal nicphadraig wrote: > is that right, i knew bits of NBL had at one time been > in Co Durham, but i never thought of Berwick area. > so, he probably was born there. did DUR sort of > encircle Northumberland? do you know of there's an > online map which shows the old Co Duham boundaries? > i'm sure it'd be a great help to folk. it'd certainly > help me :-) > > le durachd :-) > fionnghal > > >> Tweedmouth in 1841 would be in Co Durham >> administratively, so they were correct in saying >> > that he wasn't born in Northumberland > >> Heather >> > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for > your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Tweedmouth in 1841 would be in Co Durham administratively, so they were correct in saying that he wasn't born in Northumberland Heather > Census 1881 ( 5012-111-52) has Thomas born in Tweedmouth. > Census 1871 (5037-80-29) his b/p was Tweedmouth > Census 1861 (3794-6-5) has him born Berwick on Tweed > Census 1851 ( 2410-229-11) birth place North Shields > Census 1841 ( 825/10 38-22) which did not record specific birthplaces,has > him "not born in the (Northumberland) county. > >

Heather, OPR's mean Old Parish Records. I have lost your e-mail address. Will you send it to me off line please ? Ainslie was a name I recall in Co. Durham. Arthur. ========================================================== On 24 May 2007, at 18:59, Heather Punshon wrote: > Hello fionnghal > > thanks very much for the suggestion > I do have a subscription to ancestry and am in the process of sorting > out all the Aynsley families in Norham - not an easy task with all the > spelling errors. > > I will finish that task before contacting the Berwick office, but > thanks > for the contact information. By the way what does OPR mean? > > I have the transcript of the marriage of Ann AYNSLEY to John JEFFREY 4 > Dec 1835 in Mordington - it does not name their parents. > > Thanks again > > Heather > > fionnghal nicphadraig wrote: >> have you tried having a look at the Aynsleys living in >> Norham during the 1841 & 1851 censuses - using all the >> different spelling combinations you can think of! >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

> I do have a subscription to ancestry - not an easy > task with all the tell me about it. you should see what they do with our Mc/Mac names :-[ what a job i've had tracking some of mine :-( > for the contact information. By the way what does > OPR mean? Old Parish/Parochial Register :-) > > I have the transcript of the marriage - it does not name their parents. pity, sometime you get the bride's dad mentioned - just sometimes :-] great when it does happen :-) happy digging :-) le durachd fionnghal ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Heather wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am a new member of this list WELCOME! > I do not know who Annie's parents were. It seems to me, your best chance is to see her Death cert. Depending on where she died, one or both parents could be named, plus her father's occupation. If the Informant was her sibling that could add leverage to your search. ALISTAIR

death lines aren't so handy when a person's married. have you tried having a look at the Aynsleys living in Norham during the 1841 & 1851 censuses - using all the different spelling combinations you can think of! if you've an ancestry.com sub it might be worth having a look at what Aynsleys were living in the area at the tiem. some of them at least have to be related to your Ann. i'm not suggesting you join, but you could take out a free trial then cut it before it's up. Also, Linda Bankier, the Council archivist for Berwick and north NBL may be able to check out the OPRs and get the wedding. i haven;t followed the whole thread but i gather she was married before the 1841. did she marry in Norham do you think? if she says she was from Norham and you've got a pretty good idea of the year of her birth from her census returns, Linda would look at the OPR for that year and one on either side. once she finds that she;ll have the parents and can then track down the siblings. you'd want to asm yourself with a few questions so as to make the lookups worthwhile as it'll cost you by the hour. she's very helpful but it does take time as she;s got a huge amount on her plate so be prepared for a wait. just a thought :-) Postal address: Berwick-upon-Tweed Record Office Council Offices Wallace Green Berwick-upon-Tweed Northumberland TD15 1ED Telephone no: 01289 301865 E-mail: lb@berwick-upon-tweed.gov.uk Web address: www.northumberland.gov.uk le durachd :-) fionnghal ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

Hello fionnghal thanks very much for the suggestion I do have a subscription to ancestry and am in the process of sorting out all the Aynsley families in Norham - not an easy task with all the spelling errors. I will finish that task before contacting the Berwick office, but thanks for the contact information. By the way what does OPR mean? I have the transcript of the marriage of Ann AYNSLEY to John JEFFREY 4 Dec 1835 in Mordington - it does not name their parents. Thanks again Heather fionnghal nicphadraig wrote: > have you tried having a look at the Aynsleys living in > Norham during the 1841 & 1851 censuses - using all the > different spelling combinations you can think of! >

Thanks Alistair Ann died in Winlaton DUR in 1873 DEATH CERTIFICATE 1873 death in the sub-district of Winlaton in the Countyof Durham 4 April 1873 Winlaton Ann JEFFREY 59 years wife of John JEFFREY provision merchant Cause of Death Ulceration and hypertrophy of Uterus and Dementia Certified Informant James K Jeffrey present at death The gravestone doesn't give any info about her pre-marriage family either Thanks for the suggestion though Heather > It seems to me, your best chance is to see her Death cert. > Depending on where she died, one or both parents could be > named, plus her father's occupation. If the Informant was > her sibling that could add leverage to your search. > > ALISTAIR > > >

Hello everyone I am a new member of this list and wonder if there is anyone researching the same family or who could help with any information. My 3 x great grandmother is Anne or Annie AYNSLEY/AINSLIE born in about 1814 in Norham [DUR/NBL] - she married in 1835, so is not on any census in her maiden name. There is no baptism on the IGI to match the age given on all the census records. Annie AYNSLEY married John JEFFREY on 4 Dec 1835 in Mordington/ He was from Staichouse, she was from Foulden Dene.. They perhaps lived with her folks in Norham - until after the birth of their first child, William in 1836. Then they moved to North Shields where John was born in 1838, then to Winlaton Mill, between 1838 and the birth of Aynsley in Dec 1840. John and Annie had at least 12 children - 10 boys and then 2 girls Children's names that I know of are: William, John, Aynsley, David, Charles, George, Allen Rattray., Thomas, James Kerr, Philip, Jane Ann, Susan John JEFFREY's ancestors were William/Susanna Tabb David/Janet Boyd Charles Tabb/Jean Philip is also a JEFFREY family name I do not know who Annie's parents were. Looking at the names of the children, naming patterns suggest that Annie's mother might have been Jane - her father??? William? John? George? Allen? Thomas? James? The middle names RATTRAY and KERR do not appear to come from the JEFFREY side of the family so are possible clues, but so far I have come up with just a brick wall!!! Any help is appreciated Heather Saskatoon, Canada

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ---- From: "border-request@rootsweb.com" <border-request@rootsweb.com> To: border@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 1:01:30 AM Subject: BORDER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 59 Today's Topics: 1. Re: SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH (ROBERT RIDER) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:59:38 -0700 From: "ROBERT RIDER" <duneatik@msn.com> Subject: Re: [BORDER] SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH To: <border@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY108-DAV4B60ED7A06893D574A059C83B0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Alison, Thank you for the information, sorry I haven't gotten back before now but I've been really busy in my yard.I can't see any correlation, but then if there is any connection with my Elliots and Thomsons to the Scotts it would be one to two generations back from Walter. I see he named his first son Walter also, usually the Scot naming pattern is that the first son is named for the paternal Grandfather. I did see one Walter, born I think in 1770 in Roberton to a William Scott. My William would've been a William Jr., and I am guessing born sometime between 1720 and 1730.It could be a totally different Scott family, I had figured the connection would be with the Thomsons as Willam was the cautioner for my Robert Thomson at his marrriage in 1750. I don't know the exact parish Robert was from, just that it was Roxburgh and his bride was from Selkirk.I guess it's just keep digging at those brick walls, perhaps we may connect somewhere in time. Thanks again. Rebecca ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland and Alison deCaen<mailto:decaenr@shaw.ca> To: border@rootsweb.com<mailto:border@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [BORDER] SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH Rebecca Up until the marriage of thomas Scott & my grt aunt Margaret Ballantyne of Castleton all the info came from IGI and I haven't checked original records this is what I have Alison Descendants of Walter SCOTT Generation No. 1 1. WALTER1 SCOTT He married MARY YOUNG. Children of WALTER SCOTT and MARY YOUNG are: i. MARGARET2 SCOTT, b. 1805. More About MARGARET SCOTT: Baptism: June 12, 1805, Roberton ii. MARY SCOTT, b. 1810. More About MARY SCOTT: Baptism: April 29, 1810, Roberton iii. WALTER SCOTT, b. 1812. More About WALTER SCOTT: Baptism: September 28, 1812, Roberton 2. iv. ANDREW SCOTT, b. Abt. 1821, Roberton. Generation No. 2 2. ANDREW2 SCOTT (WALTER1) was born Abt. 1821 in Roberton. He married ISABELLA GRIEVE December 17, 1843 in Kirkton. She was born Abt. 1823 in Wilton. Notes for ANDREW SCOTT: !Census 1841:Berkwood Foot Shop,Kirkton Age 20 Occupation: Wright J 1851: living at Birkwoodfoot with his wife and children Elizabeth, John & Walter 1861 at Stobbs Woodfoot with his wife and children Andrew, Elizabeth, Robert & Thomas 1881 Living at Stobbs Woodfoot, Kirkton with his wife & children Andrew, Tomas, John & Mary He is a master joiner 1891:Living at 2 Woodfoot Cottage, Kirkton with his sons Andrew & John 1901: Living at Stobbs Woodfoot with his wife & sons Andrew & John More About ANDREW SCOTT: Baptism: January 31, 1821, Roberton, Selkirkshire Notes for ISABELLA GRIEVE: Census 1891 visiting her son Walter & his family in West Calder, Midlothian Marriage Notes for ANDREW SCOTT and ISABELLA GRIEVE: !In IGI marriage transcription called Isobel Children of ANDREW SCOTT and ISABELLA GRIEVE are: 3. i. WALTER3 SCOTT, b. Abt. 1845, Kirkton, Rox. ii. JOHN SCOTT, b. Abt. 1847, Kirkton, Rox. iii. ELIZABETH SCOTT, b. Abt. 1849. iv. ANDREW S SCOTT, b. Abt. 1852, Kirkton, Rox. Notes for ANDREW S SCOTT: !Census: 1891 Living at 2 Woodfoot cottage, Kirkton with his Father & brother John He is a railway plate layer 1901:Living with his parents and brother John in Kirkton 4. v. THOMAS SCOTT, b. June 15, 1857, Kirkton, Rox. vi. MARY SCOTT, b. Abt. 1864, Kirkton, Rox. vii. JOHN SCOTT, b. Abt. 1865, Kirkton, Rox. Notes for JOHN SCOTT: !Census 1891 2 Woodfoot Cottage, Kirkton1891Living with his Father and brother John He is a joiner Generation No. 3 3. WALTER3 SCOTT (ANDREW2, WALTER1) was born Abt. 1845 in Kirkton, Rox. He married JANET. She was born in Garrow, Selkirkshire. Notes for WALTER SCOTT: !In the 1851 census but not in the 1861 census. 1871:A farm servant at Sunnyside House, Cavers 1881:Middle Crosswood farm, Calder He is shepherd in charge of farm. Living with wife and children 1891:Mid Cropwood, West Calder Living with wife Janet & children Jessie, Maggie, Mary, Robert & William. He is a shepherd His mother is visiting Children of WALTER SCOTT and JANET are: i. ANDREW4 SCOTT, b. 1869, West Calder, Midlothian. Notes for ANDREW SCOTT: !Census 1901:He is a visitor at Main St Royal Bank House, Drymen, Stirlingshire. He is a joiner ii. ELIZABETH SCOTT, b. 1871, West Calder, Midlothian. iii. ISABELLA SCOTT, b. 1873, West Calder, Midlothian. iv. WILLIAM M SCOTT, b. 1874, West Calder, Midlothian. v. MAGGIE SCOTT, b. 1877, West Calder, Midlothian. vi. ROBERT SCOTT, b. 1880, West Calder, Midlothian. Notes for ROBERT SCOTT: !Census 1901Lodger at 9 Cumberland St, Edinburgh St Mary, he is a butcher's assistant vii. MARY SCOTT, b. 1882, West Calder, Midlothian. viii. JESSIE SCOTT, b. 1886, West Calder, Midlothian. 4. THOMAS3 SCOTT (ANDREW2, WALTER1) was born June 15, 1857 in Kirkton, Rox. He met MARGARET BALLANTYNE August 25, 1882 in Free Church of Sct.Roberton, Rox, daughter of JOHN BALLANTYNE and ELIZABETH GOLDIE. She was born June 27, 1861 in Castleton, Roxburghshire, Scotland. Notes for THOMAS SCOTT: !Son of Andrew Scott & Isabella Grieve. Census1891:Kirkton, 4 Woodfoot Cottage He is living with his wife anc children, Isabella, John & Robert. He is a joiner 1901 Living at Stobs Woodfoot with Maggie , Isabella, John, Robert & Elizabeth Same address as his parents Thomas is a joiner Notes for MARGARET BALLANTYNE: !Census 1881:may have been working as a servant for W Thomson at Hummelknowes House, Cavers Marriage Notes for THOMAS SCOTT and MARGARET BALLANTYNE: !Witness were William Johnstone & May Turnbull Children of THOMAS SCOTT and MARGARET BALLANTYNE are: 5. i. ISABELLA4 SCOTT, b. Abt. 1886, Kirkton, Rox. ii. JOHN SCOTT, b. Abt. 1889, Kirkton, Rox. iii. ROBERT SCOTT, b. Abt. 1891, Kirkton, Rox. iv. ELIZABETH SCOTT, b. Abt. 1896, Kirkton, Rox. Generation No. 4 5. ISABELLA4 SCOTT (THOMAS3, ANDREW2, WALTER1) was born Abt. 1886 in Kirkton, Rox. She married ALFRED JOHN BURGESS October 18, 1905 in Manse of United Free Church, Hawick. Notes for ISABELLA SCOTT: !At the time of her marriage she gave her address as "Whitlawhaugh" Witnesses were John Scott & Jane Elliot Notes for ALFRED JOHN BURGESS: !Son of albert & Mary Burgess At time of Marriage living at Mayfield, Hawick Child of ISABELLA SCOTT and ALFRED BURGESS is: 6. i. ALFRED5 BURGESS. Generation No. 5 6. ALFRED5 BURGESS (ISABELLA4 SCOTT, THOMAS3, ANDREW2, WALTER1) He married MARGARET ARNOTT. She was born Abt. 1916 in Hobkirk. Children of ALFRED BURGESS and MARGARET ARNOTT are: 7. i. JUNE6 BURGESS. ii. IAN BURGESS. Generation No. 6 7. JUNE6 BURGESS (ALFRED5, ISABELLA4 SCOTT, THOMAS3, ANDREW2, WALTER1) Child of JUNE BURGESS is: i. LISA7. From: "ROBERT RIDER" <duneatik@msn.com<mailto:duneatik@msn.com>> To: <border@rootsweb.com<mailto:border@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [BORDER] SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH > Alison, > I wondered if you have any other info on Walter, as to parents, etc.? I checked on www.familysearch.com<http://www.familysearch.com/<http://www.familysearchcom%3chttp//www.familysearch.com/>> and found a Walter Scott born in 1770 I believe it was, Father was William Scott, no Mother named. I had a William Scott Jr. who was the cautioneer at the wedding of my Agnes Elliot and Robert Thomson in Selkirk.He was supposed to be from Castleton. I have the idea that the Scotts are married into the Thomson or Elliot family somewhere, probably the Thomsons as he was the cautioneer for Robert, and Robert Thomson was from Roxburgh and Agnes Elliot from Selkirk.On familysearch there are some deaths listed for Walter Scott, but none match for sure the Walter I found born in Roberton. I guess in moving a lot it could be the same person. I'd welcome any more information you may have. > Rebecca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roland and Alison deCaen<mailto:decaenr@shaw.ca<mailto:decaenr@shaw.ca>> > To: news.border<mailto:BORDER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:22 PM > Subject: [BORDER] SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH > > > I am looking at Scott in Roberton, Selkirk Does anyone have access to MIs > or deaths for Roberton circa 1823-1850 ? > Looking for the death of Walter Scott (wife had children between 1800 & > 1821) and his wife Mary (nee Young) I know nothing more about Walter & Mary > but hope there may be an MI and age at time of death > Alison > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the BORDER list administrator, send an email to BORDER-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Alison, Thank you for the information, sorry I haven't gotten back before now but I've been really busy in my yard.I can't see any correlation, but then if there is any connection with my Elliots and Thomsons to the Scotts it would be one to two generations back from Walter. I see he named his first son Walter also, usually the Scot naming pattern is that the first son is named for the paternal Grandfather. I did see one Walter, born I think in 1770 in Roberton to a William Scott. My William would've been a William Jr., and I am guessing born sometime between 1720 and 1730.It could be a totally different Scott family, I had figured the connection would be with the Thomsons as Willam was the cautioner for my Robert Thomson at his marrriage in 1750. I don't know the exact parish Robert was from, just that it was Roxburgh and his bride was from Selkirk.I guess it's just keep digging at those brick walls, perhaps we may connect somewhere in time. Thanks again. Rebecca ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland and Alison deCaen<mailto:decaenr@shaw.ca> To: border@rootsweb.com<mailto:border@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [BORDER] SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH Rebecca Up until the marriage of thomas Scott & my grt aunt Margaret Ballantyne of Castleton all the info came from IGI and I haven't checked original records this is what I have Alison Descendants of Walter SCOTT Generation No. 1 1. WALTER1 SCOTT He married MARY YOUNG. Children of WALTER SCOTT and MARY YOUNG are: i. MARGARET2 SCOTT, b. 1805. More About MARGARET SCOTT: Baptism: June 12, 1805, Roberton ii. MARY SCOTT, b. 1810. More About MARY SCOTT: Baptism: April 29, 1810, Roberton iii. WALTER SCOTT, b. 1812. More About WALTER SCOTT: Baptism: September 28, 1812, Roberton 2. iv. ANDREW SCOTT, b. Abt. 1821, Roberton. Generation No. 2 2. ANDREW2 SCOTT (WALTER1) was born Abt. 1821 in Roberton. He married ISABELLA GRIEVE December 17, 1843 in Kirkton. She was born Abt. 1823 in Wilton. Notes for ANDREW SCOTT: !Census 1841:Berkwood Foot Shop,Kirkton Age 20 Occupation: Wright J 1851: living at Birkwoodfoot with his wife and children Elizabeth, John & Walter 1861 at Stobbs Woodfoot with his wife and children Andrew, Elizabeth, Robert & Thomas 1881 Living at Stobbs Woodfoot, Kirkton with his wife & children Andrew, Tomas, John & Mary He is a master joiner 1891:Living at 2 Woodfoot Cottage, Kirkton with his sons Andrew & John 1901: Living at Stobbs Woodfoot with his wife & sons Andrew & John More About ANDREW SCOTT: Baptism: January 31, 1821, Roberton, Selkirkshire Notes for ISABELLA GRIEVE: Census 1891 visiting her son Walter & his family in West Calder, Midlothian Marriage Notes for ANDREW SCOTT and ISABELLA GRIEVE: !In IGI marriage transcription called Isobel Children of ANDREW SCOTT and ISABELLA GRIEVE are: 3. i. WALTER3 SCOTT, b. Abt. 1845, Kirkton, Rox. ii. JOHN SCOTT, b. Abt. 1847, Kirkton, Rox. iii. ELIZABETH SCOTT, b. Abt. 1849. iv. ANDREW S SCOTT, b. Abt. 1852, Kirkton, Rox. Notes for ANDREW S SCOTT: !Census: 1891 Living at 2 Woodfoot cottage, Kirkton with his Father & brother John He is a railway plate layer 1901:Living with his parents and brother John in Kirkton 4. v. THOMAS SCOTT, b. June 15, 1857, Kirkton, Rox. vi. MARY SCOTT, b. Abt. 1864, Kirkton, Rox. vii. JOHN SCOTT, b. Abt. 1865, Kirkton, Rox. Notes for JOHN SCOTT: !Census 1891 2 Woodfoot Cottage, Kirkton1891Living with his Father and brother John He is a joiner Generation No. 3 3. WALTER3 SCOTT (ANDREW2, WALTER1) was born Abt. 1845 in Kirkton, Rox. He married JANET. She was born in Garrow, Selkirkshire. Notes for WALTER SCOTT: !In the 1851 census but not in the 1861 census. 1871:A farm servant at Sunnyside House, Cavers 1881:Middle Crosswood farm, Calder He is shepherd in charge of farm. Living with wife and children 1891:Mid Cropwood, West Calder Living with wife Janet & children Jessie, Maggie, Mary, Robert & William. He is a shepherd His mother is visiting Children of WALTER SCOTT and JANET are: i. ANDREW4 SCOTT, b. 1869, West Calder, Midlothian. Notes for ANDREW SCOTT: !Census 1901:He is a visitor at Main St Royal Bank House, Drymen, Stirlingshire. He is a joiner ii. ELIZABETH SCOTT, b. 1871, West Calder, Midlothian. iii. ISABELLA SCOTT, b. 1873, West Calder, Midlothian. iv. WILLIAM M SCOTT, b. 1874, West Calder, Midlothian. v. MAGGIE SCOTT, b. 1877, West Calder, Midlothian. vi. ROBERT SCOTT, b. 1880, West Calder, Midlothian. Notes for ROBERT SCOTT: !Census 1901Lodger at 9 Cumberland St, Edinburgh St Mary, he is a butcher's assistant vii. MARY SCOTT, b. 1882, West Calder, Midlothian. viii. JESSIE SCOTT, b. 1886, West Calder, Midlothian. 4. THOMAS3 SCOTT (ANDREW2, WALTER1) was born June 15, 1857 in Kirkton, Rox. He met MARGARET BALLANTYNE August 25, 1882 in Free Church of Sct.Roberton, Rox, daughter of JOHN BALLANTYNE and ELIZABETH GOLDIE. She was born June 27, 1861 in Castleton, Roxburghshire, Scotland. Notes for THOMAS SCOTT: !Son of Andrew Scott & Isabella Grieve. Census1891:Kirkton, 4 Woodfoot Cottage He is living with his wife anc children, Isabella, John & Robert. He is a joiner 1901 Living at Stobs Woodfoot with Maggie , Isabella, John, Robert & Elizabeth Same address as his parents Thomas is a joiner Notes for MARGARET BALLANTYNE: !Census 1881:may have been working as a servant for W Thomson at Hummelknowes House, Cavers Marriage Notes for THOMAS SCOTT and MARGARET BALLANTYNE: !Witness were William Johnstone & May Turnbull Children of THOMAS SCOTT and MARGARET BALLANTYNE are: 5. i. ISABELLA4 SCOTT, b. Abt. 1886, Kirkton, Rox. ii. JOHN SCOTT, b. Abt. 1889, Kirkton, Rox. iii. ROBERT SCOTT, b. Abt. 1891, Kirkton, Rox. iv. ELIZABETH SCOTT, b. Abt. 1896, Kirkton, Rox. Generation No. 4 5. ISABELLA4 SCOTT (THOMAS3, ANDREW2, WALTER1) was born Abt. 1886 in Kirkton, Rox. She married ALFRED JOHN BURGESS October 18, 1905 in Manse of United Free Church, Hawick. Notes for ISABELLA SCOTT: !At the time of her marriage she gave her address as "Whitlawhaugh" Witnesses were John Scott & Jane Elliot Notes for ALFRED JOHN BURGESS: !Son of albert & Mary Burgess At time of Marriage living at Mayfield, Hawick Child of ISABELLA SCOTT and ALFRED BURGESS is: 6. i. ALFRED5 BURGESS. Generation No. 5 6. ALFRED5 BURGESS (ISABELLA4 SCOTT, THOMAS3, ANDREW2, WALTER1) He married MARGARET ARNOTT. She was born Abt. 1916 in Hobkirk. Children of ALFRED BURGESS and MARGARET ARNOTT are: 7. i. JUNE6 BURGESS. ii. IAN BURGESS. Generation No. 6 7. JUNE6 BURGESS (ALFRED5, ISABELLA4 SCOTT, THOMAS3, ANDREW2, WALTER1) Child of JUNE BURGESS is: i. LISA7. From: "ROBERT RIDER" <duneatik@msn.com<mailto:duneatik@msn.com>> To: <border@rootsweb.com<mailto:border@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [BORDER] SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH > Alison, > I wondered if you have any other info on Walter, as to parents, etc.? I checked on www.familysearch.com<http://www.familysearch.com/<http://www.familysearchcom%3chttp//www.familysearch.com/>> and found a Walter Scott born in 1770 I believe it was, Father was William Scott, no Mother named. I had a William Scott Jr. who was the cautioneer at the wedding of my Agnes Elliot and Robert Thomson in Selkirk.He was supposed to be from Castleton. I have the idea that the Scotts are married into the Thomson or Elliot family somewhere, probably the Thomsons as he was the cautioneer for Robert, and Robert Thomson was from Roxburgh and Agnes Elliot from Selkirk.On familysearch there are some deaths listed for Walter Scott, but none match for sure the Walter I found born in Roberton. I guess in moving a lot it could be the same person. I'd welcome any more information you may have. > Rebecca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roland and Alison deCaen<mailto:decaenr@shaw.ca<mailto:decaenr@shaw.ca>> > To: news.border<mailto:BORDER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:22 PM > Subject: [BORDER] SCOTT IN ROBERTON - DEATH > > > I am looking at Scott in Roberton, Selkirk Does anyone have access to MIs > or deaths for Roberton circa 1823-1850 ? > Looking for the death of Walter Scott (wife had children between 1800 & > 1821) and his wife Mary (nee Young) I know nothing more about Walter & Mary > but hope there may be an MI and age at time of death > Alison > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BORDER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message