Hello All I have been asked to forward this message on from a relative of mine who is on the Cumberland List. We know that there is a Portobello located near Edinburgh, but this is not the one that we are looking for. Please read on further and perhaps SKS can help us both. Regards Mona ___________________________________________________________ Sent: May 12, 2000 8:16 PM > Mona > Can you put somthing like thi out on the Dumfriess message board? > (or is there a Wigton message board?) > > The 1851 census of Kirkcolm, Wigton has a place name of > "Cairnbrock, Portobello". > I know about the Battle of Portobello and about the Portobello > near Edinburgh, but can someone tell me if Portobello is a geographical > feature in Wigton? cove, beach, inlet, sea, hill, etc? > > > thanks > > mike > > > > > > >

Correction to previous message:- south west not south east.

Jeanette, there is a Hislop or Hyslop (I have seen both spellings) about two miles south east of Teviothead in Roxburghshire. from Margaret

Lord Cranstoun had a son named Thomas Cranstoun in the year 1610 a Thomas Cranston was in Ireland with the plantation. How and where would I look to prove if this is the same Thomas Cranston or not. Thank You Rose C Dcran41266@aol.com

Hello Trish, I found only 3 Sinclair in the MIs. Page 10. LIST OF NAMES WHICH APPEAR ON THE 1814 PLAN (NB the numbers in this list do not relate to those applied to the following monumental inscriptions) 15 Duncan Sinclair Gardener Mellerstain. **************************************************** 24 In memory of MARY SINCLAIR daughter to DUNCAN SINCLAIR Mellerstain who died 20.2.1791(?) aged 12 years. ********************************** 33 Erected in tile blessed hope of the resurrection the remains of DUNCAN SINCLAIR native of Taymouth Breadalbane born 1750 died 16.4.1833 aged 83 years. He was gardener to GEORGE BAILLIE Esq.. of Jerviswood Mellerstain for 53 years he passed the remainder of his days in the enjoyment of ease and comfort under the kind protection of the family whom he so long loved and respected also CHRISTAIN TAIT the beloved spouse of DUNCAN Sinclair who died at Mellerstain 8.3.1832 aged 87 years Note in the 1814 list you are given his profession. Hope this helps Joe Boyd Williams Katy, Texas -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Lewis <trishlewis@sprint.ca> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 6:51 PM Subject: Smailholm MI's Request SINCLAIR >Hi > >Does anyone have the Smailholm MI's. Someone found my Duncan SINCLAIR's MI >in this book died 1833, along with his daughter Mary and wife Christian. >I'd like to find out if there were any other SINCLAIR's buried there or if >any stones next to it may be related to him. His wife's maiden name was >TAIT, so there could be TAIT's there too. > >Thank you. > >Trish LEWIS >Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia > >

Hallo Listers, I just received this from another list. Thought it might be of interest. Regards, Michael. > The California State Library system has banned Post-It-Notes because testing > by the National Archives has shown that they can leave a residue which can > damage books. Moreover, the narrow ones sold in sets of five colors can pull > the printed word right off the page. So, if you chose to use them in your > personal books, be sure that the sticky part does not cover any ink. > > This is information from the Genealogical Society of Santa Cruz County. > > Jane > > --part1_44.37cb8a6.264b0a9b_boundary-- > > > ==== PRUSSIA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > It is click and send ready > mailto:Prussia-Roots-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

Hi list Could anyone out there tell me where "Hyslip", Scotland is, or was, or if it ever was? Thanks Jeanette

Hi Does anyone have the Smailholm MI's. Someone found my Duncan SINCLAIR's MI in this book died 1833, along with his daughter Mary and wife Christian. I'd like to find out if there were any other SINCLAIR's buried there or if any stones next to it may be related to him. His wife's maiden name was TAIT, so there could be TAIT's there too. Thank you. Trish LEWIS Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia

I have a copy of my Great Grandparents' marriage registration. John PATTERSON, Farmer, born 1844, Craigs Dumfriesshire, married Isabelle MURRAY, Spinster. born 1843, Middlebie. They were married Feb 18, 1881 by Peter CARRUTHERS, Minister of the U.P. Church, Longtown. John PATTERSON then resided at Henry's Hill, Cumberland. Isabelle MURRAY resided at Trinity School House, Hawick. Is this school connected with a church? I have traced the PATTERSON line but can get nowhere with MURRAY. Can anyone help? For example: What was Trinity School House? Is it likely she was employed there? Isabelle's father, Peter MURRAY is shown as Retired Farmer. Mother Elizabeth CARRUTHERS is deceased. Could she have been connected to the officiating minister?

Ian, You have a wonderful webpage! I'm going to reccomend it to all my cousins and friends. I love the pictures you took yourself, I think we would all be much obliged if you added more. I know I'll be back for several visits. Stephen Maxwell

Hello, This is my first post to this list...I hope I'm in the right place! :) I'm looking for any information on a Mary Millar PATTERSON. She's my great-grandmother. My grandmother, Mary Ann Curle PATTERSON, was born July 4, 1924 in Eyemouth and was given up for adoption shortly afterwards. The only information we have on her mother is that she was unwed (no father's name appears on my grandmother's birth certificate) and she may have been a domestic servant. ANY info would be very gratefully received. Thanks! :) Colleen

Hello All I remember someone inquiring not too long ago about these names - I came across the following while I was searching and hope it helps someone. David s/o David Graham who d. at Cumleys 22 Jul 1847 age 5 yrs, also William his son who d. 23 Jul 1847 age 3 yrs, also David William his son who d. at Templand Village 31 may 1849 age 4 mo. also David his son who d. in infancy also the above david Graham who d. 31 Jan 1874 age 58 yrs also Robert Nisbet Graham his son who d. at Southport 4 Apr 1875 age 34 yrs also David tweedie his grandchild who d. in infancy also Jane Nisbet his wife who d. May 19 1889 age 69 yrs also John their son who d. at Kirkenhead Jul 7 1881 age 28 yrs also Robert Graham his son who d at templand Nov 17 1884 age 4 yrs

Hi Listers, Just an invite for new list members to visit my website. Over 200 old photos of the major Scottish Border towns, (and some up to date ones as well). Click here http://www.ettrickgraphics.co.uk Thank you, Regards, Ian Millar Ettrick Graphics ian@ettrickgraphics.co.uk www.ettrickgraphics.co.uk (Old Scottish Borders Photo Archive)

I have just received a message from foggin@matra.com.au detailed Border digest #134 If contains an infected file. Anyone receiving it DO NOT OPEN regards Gordon Listowner

Hello List, Re-posting a request made a few months ago. If SKS is visiting Linton Churchyard would they mind checking a headstone for me? In the 1980's my brother transcribed the details of some ancestors, but on checking my recently-purchased Memorial Inscription booklets from the Borders FHS, there are discrepancies or mistakes in the information. In the booklet it is No. 182 and placed between '2 illegible stones set in the church wall' and a 'Broken Celtic Cross near south east corner post'. "Sacred to the memory of George HENDERSON who died at Caverton 10.8. ? aged 51 years also four of his son Adam HENDERSON's children and of Jennet HINDMARSH the above Adam HENDERSON's wife who died 6.5. ? aged 75 years. The above Adam HENDERSON died at Corbethouse 25.2. 1870 aged 93." My query is the correct year for George and Jennet on the actual gravestone, if still legible. I will mention it to the Borders FHS if the information is incorrect. After years of searching I am still looking for any references to the marriage of Thomas HALL born 1801 at Cottonshopeburnfoot NBL to Janet (or maybe Jennet) HENDERSON born 1800 at Morebattle ROX. I have found a marriage at Southdean on the IGI on-line which I am checking out. Also the births/baptisms of their 7 children all born at Oxnam according to the 1841 and 1851 censuses, one of which is my great grandfather Adam HALL. Any assistance will be gratefully received. Regards, Gil. Hall. Southampton, England Researching HALL, NBL / DUR; DENT, DUR; KING, BEW / NBL / DUR; STEWART, Edinburgh, MLN / DUR; WINTON, Musselburgh, MLN / STS; BEAUMONT, STS / SAL; HOLDEN (ING), STS; BEES, SOM. ANDERSON, NBL; DAVISON, NBL; HENDERSON, ROX; MARTIN, DGY; OLIVER, ROX.

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I have a family of Scott's born at Castleton in the early 1800's David Scott b. 1777/78 at Yarrow, Selkirk married Jane Scott b abt 1780 at Wilton Roxburgh daughter of William Scott and according to her death certificate Isabella Irvine(though I wonder if her son in law made a mistake and it might have been Isabella Kedzie) They had children William 1804 born Castleton had a daughter Beatrice Thomas 1806 Isabella 1808 Helen 1811 m. Walter Beattie George 1813 Elizabeth b. 1818 at Yarrow m. William Pow Christian b. 1823 at Yarrow m. Thomas Rutherford David and Jane are buried at Roberton, Selkirk. I would love to be in touch with anyone who connects to these Scott's Sheila William Ramp wrote: > > Not sure about Sington, but I do know that Singdean (or Singden) was a farm in > the parish of Castleton. In the 1st half of the 19th century, a Walter Scott > (m. Elspeth Telfer) was shepherd there. A short biography of Walter is > included in a book by George Tancred, _Rulewater and its People_ (1904, but > reprinted recently by the borders FHS). > > Bill Ramp > Lethbridge Alberta > > thistle@stny.rr.com wrote: > > > Greetings all, > > Can anyone tell me what parish (s) Sington and Castleton, Roxburgh are/were > > in? I have some Scotts that were born in both; in the 1700 & 1800's. > > thanks, > > Peggy

Im searching for a Samuel ROBERTSON that married Elizabeth HARRIS and supposedly was born in the Highlands of Scotland... They came here in ca 1769 and had 10 children first to VA and then on to Kentucky. I cannot find any ship immigrant papers on them nor can I find anything else. Just thinking I would let you know in case you ever stumble across them you could pass the info. on... Thank You, Margaret Robertson Shearies@mswin.net -----Original Message----- From: Janice Poskitt <janice_poskitt@yahoo.com> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 06, 2000 7:20 PM Subject: RE: Tracking shepherds >Hello Ann, > >Funny you should ask that. > >> When you were looking for your shepherds, did any of them wander into > >Wales for a period of time?! The reason I ask is that we are looking >really hard at a family of Scots who seem to have landed there. The >father is a shepherd and one of the children is the right name and age >for my husband's gfather who died in Carlisle in 1914 at the age of 42 >and who was also a shepherd. We're really early in our search so we >could be on the wrong track. We need to check to see where they were >in 1891. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. Cheers, Ann > > >I'm targeting a Samuel ROBERTSON who appears in the 1881 Census for >Anglesey, Wales. > >My Samuel ROBERTSON was b 1831 Moffat DFS the youngest child of Robert >ROBSON / ROBERTSON & Grace EWART. The father Robert dies later in 1831. > >Samuel is living in Crawford LKS in 1851 is unmarried & an ag lab. > >Now, there is a marriage for a Samuel ROBERTSON & Mary WILLIAMSON 1852 >Glasgow - I've ordered the parish register in the hopes of (dis)proving >whether he is my Samuel. The Crawford marriages have been >lost/destroyed. > >The 1881 Census entry for Wales reads:- > >Census Place: Llangoed, Anglesey, Wales - Dwelling: Nant Eilen >Source: FHL Film 1342338 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5572 Folio 17 >Page 11 > > Marr Age Sex Birthplace >Samuel ROBERTSON M 50 M Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Farm Bailiff >Mary ROBERTSON M 49 F Scotland > Rel: Wife > > >Re occupations:- >Samuel in 1851 is listed as ag lab - I don't find that inconsistent or >such a big leap to Farm Bailiff in 1881. > >Samuel's uncles & brothers were ag labs in the 1820-40s & later became >shepherds & sheep farm managers in SCT. Maybe they were instrumental in >finding Samuel a position. Sometimes it's more who you know, than >what?? > >I'll see what the Glasgow marriages turn up & then turn my attention to >1871 & 1891 Census for Anglesey. > >Samuel & Mary don't appear to have had any chn in SCT. This is pure >speculation but, if they had chn in Wales that were bapt in the >Presbyterian Church they would be non-conformists & probably wouldn't >make it onto the IGI anyway - or at least not at this point in time. > >Regarding your family in the 1881 Census:- >John BEATTIE 49 M Scotland >Agnes H. BEATTIE 40 F Scotland >James BEATTIE 12 M Scotland >David BEATTIE 10 M Scotland [gfather?] >Robert BEATTIE 8 M Scotland >Agnes BEATTIE 6 F Scotland >William BEATTIE 4 M Scotland >Margaret J. BEATTIE 2 F Llansannan, Denbigh, Wales >Jennet G. BEATTIE 2 w F Llansannan, Denbigh, Wales > >Have you got your grandfather's marriage cert? Where did he marry? And >what info did you glean from it. If he married in ENG or WLS it would >have only had father's names. > >Are you near an FHC. Sorry, my knowledge of Alberta is limited. > >The above David was born around the 1871 Census - I'd order the film >for his birth registration as well as that for Robert. I'd also order >the 1871 Census for their place of birth. > >Depending on what you turn up I'd also order the 1891 Census for >Llansannan, Denbigh, Wales. Never know - some rellies might have come >to stay - maybe David's future bride (your grandmother) might be from >the same parish. > >Your grandfather David: - I would be hunting out ALL his chn's birth >certificates - did he give any of his chn surnames as middle names. If >so, what names. > >Would they tie in with the initials H., J., G. from the census. If so >I'd at least look at the St Catherines House Index to establish >Margaret & Jennet's middle names. Cheaper option than getting the >certificate. > >I usually try & get every certficate for each family member - but I >don't want to spend your money for you. > >David died in 1914 - his ENG death cert won't tell you a heck of a lot. >But who was the informant? > >Was there a death/funeral notice - did he die of natural causes - if >accident, a newspaper report. > >Back then they were into black edged Memorium cards - would there be >any of these in existence - might give you something other than what is >already on the death cert. > >The parents in the census could have outlived your David - maybe a >search for their death certs - either in ENG or SCT. > >Basically, just check any available source. > >Regards, Janice, Motueka, New Zealand > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com/ >

Could someone with an 1871 and 1892 census look and see if they could > find a listing for James Halliday and Margaret McNeilly living in the > Stow-Galashiels area- > Thank You so very much!!! > Regards, > Barbara

Hello Vivienne, I am not sure if you received my last email, so I am sending the information again. I think the Daniel McCluskey you mention staying at Creighton Court, Charles Street, Whitehaven, must be my Daniel as he does not show up in Brampton on the 61, 71 census. I did wonder where he went to, but could not trace him. He arrived back in Brampton on the 1881 Census. What did it say about Daniel on the 1861 Census reference age, where born, occupation? Is he on the 1871 Whitehaven Census? Do you think your 4x Grandfather, James McCluskey and John McCluskey born in Ireland around 1790-1795 are brothers? I noticed on the 1881 Census at 3 Dickenson St, Whitehaven, Michael Murray, Catherine, wife; children Ellen, Sarah, Margaret, John Joseph, James Mary, Michael, James McCluskey - widower 72 born Ireland. This would be the 8 children you mentioned. I have come to a dead end in my searches and would really like to hear back from you as to how your research is progressing. David John McCluskey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/