I'm looking for JAMES JURY and CHARLES and SELINA WARE in BURNMOUTH around 1899-1918. Is the Borders list the right list to be on for Burnmouth? Claire Jury Cranford North Carolina USA ************************

Hi Marion, In your e-mail to Julie, you mention Melrose and HOLMES, and I am wondering if you can assist me in filling in some blanks, per the attached; name; Catherine Melrose HOME (my paternal g'mother) born: 1885(7)-Jan-4, Sunderland, Co. Durham or Melrose, Scotland, which Melrose I am not sure, since there are 2, it maybe the one near the Scotland/England border, died; 1952-Jun-8 Sunderland. married; 1911-Feb-11 ((Sunderland)to James Campbell, master house painter) they had 2 sons (Alfred & Alexander Home (my father)) she had 5 sisters ( Alice, Ethel, Liz, Maggie and Mary) I think she lived (if not all, most) in Sunderland, Durham. Because one of her names is Melrose, she may have come from Melrose or maybe that is a family name (which I believe there is). That's the trouble with just starting, you have very little info.. Thanks. Regards, Malcolm Campbell (London,Ontario,Canada) Marion Affleck wrote: > > Hi' Julie > The Duke of Buccleuchs estate BOWHILL in the Borders is in Selkirkshire at > the foot of the Eildon Hills not far from the River Tweed near Melrose. > Your grandmother may have come from that area. > Thomas should be in the 1881 Census. I was not able to pick him out from > the other Thomas's, do you have more details-approx age, married etc. > Marion > > Researching:Roxb. Holmes,Affleck,Jeffrey,Neil,Carruthers, > Berwick: Gibb,Pringle,Temple,McDougal > Selkirk: Renwick,Temple Marion Affleck wrote: > > Hi' Julie > The Duke of Buccleuchs estate BOWHILL in the Borders is in Selkirkshire at > the foot of the Eildon Hills not far from the River Tweed near Melrose. > Your grandmother may have come from that area. > Thomas should be in the 1881 Census. I was not able to pick him out from > the other Thomas's, do you have more details-approx age, married etc. > Marion > > Researching:Roxb. Holmes,Affleck,Jeffrey,Neil,Carruthers, > Berwick: Gibb,Pringle,Temple,McDougal > Selkirk: Renwick,Temple Marion Affleck wrote: > > Hi' Julie > The Duke of Buccleuchs estate BOWHILL in the Borders is in Selkirkshire at > the foot of the Eildon Hills not far from the River Tweed near Melrose. > Your grandmother may have come from that area. > Thomas should be in the 1881 Census. I was not able to pick him out from > the other Thomas's, do you have more details-approx age, married etc. > Marion > > Researching:Roxb. Holmes,Affleck,Jeffrey,Neil,Carruthers, > Berwick: Gibb,Pringle,Temple,McDougal > Selkirk: Renwick,Temple if you can assist me in filling in some blanks as attached; name; Catherine Melrose HOME (my paternal g'mother) born: 1885(7)-Jan-4, Sunderland, Co. Durham or Melrose, Scotland, which Melrose I am not sure, since there are 2, it maybe the one near the Scotland/England border, died; 1952-Jun-8 Sunderland. married; 1911-Feb-11 ((in Sunderland)to James Campbell, master house painter) they had 2 sons (Alfred & Alexander Home (my father)) she had 5 sisters ( Alice, Ethel, Liz, Maggie and Mary) I think she lived (most if not all) in Sunderland, Durham. Because one of her names is Melrose, she may have come from Melrose or maybe that is a family name (which I believe there is). That's the trouble with just starting, you have very little info.. Thanks Regards, Malcolm Campbell (London,Ontario,Canada) Marion Affleck wrote: > > Hi' Julie > The Duke of Buccleuchs estate BOWHILL in the Borders is in Selkirkshire at > the foot of the Eildon Hills not far from the River Tweed near Melrose. > Your grandmother may have come from that area. > Thomas should be in the 1881 Census. I was not able to pick him out from > the other Thomas's, do you have more details-approx age, married etc. > Marion > > Researching:Roxb. Holmes,Affleck,Jeffrey,Neil,Carruthers, > Berwick: Gibb,Pringle,Temple,McDougal > Selkirk: Renwick,Temple

Hi David, Just a guess, but probably all the old measures Bushel - Measure equal to 8 UK gallons of grain, liquid, fruit etc Firkin - A small cask for liquid, grain etc Peck - A measure equal to 2 UK gallons Pound - Pound weight (Abbreviation is LB) Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

Like Debora, I'd be interested in knowing if the Borders Archive in Selkirk holds estate records. I'm particularly interested in Mordington House in Berwickshire. We will be in Scotland in August and would be able to visit Selkirk. Judy in Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Debora Marzec [mailto:DMarzec@email.msn.com] Sent: Sunday, 21 May 2000 10:00 PM To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Duke of Buccleuch. Having noticed the Buccleuch thread, I was wondering if anyone knows if any Estate Records exist and how one would go about accessing them? I have an ancestor ,Thomas FORSTER, who was a water bailif for the Duke in the 1870 / 80's. Thank you. Debora in Texas.

Hi' Julie The Duke of Buccleuchs estate BOWHILL in the Borders is in Selkirkshire at the foot of the Eildon Hills not far from the River Tweed near Melrose. Your grandmother may have come from that area. Thomas should be in the 1881 Census. I was not able to pick him out from the other Thomas's, do you have more details-approx age, married etc. Marion Researching:Roxb. Holmes,Affleck,Jeffrey,Neil,Carruthers, Berwick: Gibb,Pringle,Temple,McDougal Selkirk: Renwick,Temple

I am looking for info on LORD CRANSTOUN,I especially the son Thomas son of WILLIAM AND SARAH CRANSTON, about 1600 Scotland. Thank you Rose C Dcran41266@aol.com

Hello, Julie, I believe my files at Websites <http://www.geocities.com/~buckalew> & <http://www.james.com/border_scott/> will be helpful to you. Best regards, Les :o) Lester Trammell "Les" Buckalew; 736 Rockford Cir.; Birmingham, AL 35209-3155 E-Mail: <buckles@mindspring.com>; Web Pages: <http://www.geocities.com/~buckalew> & <http://www.james.com/border_scott/> Researching: BUCKALEW (Buccleuch), TRAMMELL, LESTER & MITCHELL (& all variants)

Hallo Listers, For those that enjoyed the last photographs. Here are some more with requests for identification. http://www.restoringphotos.com/album/p5.html Good Hunting, Best wishes, From, Michael In NORWAY.

Elizabeth, I too have ancestors buried at Armidale (my Blair family from Jedburgh settled in the area, as did my Scholes ancestors from Lancashire). From the information you have provided, I presume you have accessed the New South Wales Births, Deaths and Marriages website to find James Mark's death registration but if not, the site is: http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/ You may well have all this information but I have checked quickly for you by searching marriages and deaths for just the surname "Mark" in ten year spans between 1840 and 1860 - I found the marriages of: James Mark to Mary Mangan in 1855 (your clue to when he arrived in Australia no doubt); and Isabella Mark to John Ashburn in 1859 plus the death of Mary [Mangan] Mark (daughter of [unknown] Mangan) at Chippendale (a suburb of Sydney) in 1858. Isabella and John Ashburn's descendants should be easy to track under Births. I have recently located some of my Blair family in First Families 2001 - a database of the earliest people in a family known to have settled in Australia. It is worth a look - may you too have some luck! http://www.firstfamilies2001.net.au/welcome.htm Regards, Glennys Gow, Lismore, NSW, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Revell" <erevell@dmu.ac.uk> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 12:31 AM Subject: James MARK (1809-1883) > I have an ancestor called James Mark who married before > going to the colony of New South Wales before 1855. It has taken me some > years to find out more about him but I have, at last, got a copy of the > death certificate. Although the Australian certificates contain more > information than those here, it has not been as helpful as I had hoped. > > It says that he died aged 73 on 23 January 1883 in Armidale, > New South Wales. It further tells me that he was born in Scotland to a > father named George and he married his first wife (name unknown) in > Scotland. > > He had two children by that marriage and I suspect they were > born in Scotland because I cannot find them registered in NSW. Their names > were William (born about 1839) and Isabella (born about 1842). These dates > are deduced from their ages as listed on their father's death certificate. > > Further investigation at the Armidale cemetery has revealed > that James was born in Gallashiels. > > I have checked the Family Search records but no birth there. > There is a marriage for a James to a Mary Burges in 1829 at Peebles. This > could be correct as a child from a subsequent marriage has the middle name > of Burgess but this is sheer supposition (and perhaps you could consider it > a bit desperate!). I do not know whether the first wife died before James > and the children went to Australia --not knowing her name does not help. > > Perhaps someone may be able to look at OPR or census returns > that may help. > > Help and advice will be most gratefully received. > > Many thanks > > Elizabeth > Leicester, UK > > ______________________________

Dear Researchers I'm looking for ancestors or descents of: William Blake (Bleak) married to Margaret Ingles in 1792, in Roxburgh, Scotland. They had three sons: Walter, Thomas and William II. William Blake II,(born 11 Jul 1810 in Roberton, Roxburgh) married Mary Houd (born 10 Feb 1814 in Cavers, Roxburgh) Mary Houd parents were: John Houd(from Denholm, Roxburgh) and Agnes Minto(from Hobkirk, Roxburgh) William Blake II, & Mary Houd children were: William Blake III, John, Walter, Agnes, Thomas & Andrew. William Blake II, & Mary Houd children immigrated to the USA in 1868. Mary Houd-Blake died in 1858 in Wilton, Roxburgh. William Blake II re-married Mary Ingles, in 1861 in Berwick, Mertoun. William Blake died in 1884 in Cavers(?), Roxburgh, Scotland. Any information on any of them would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to hearing from any close or distant relatives. Thanks, Maria Blake

Hi all, I am new to this list and was wondering if some-one could tell me where the Duke of Bucclue lived. My great grandmother was sold to him in the 1880s I believe she did not live far from him. This will help me locate where abouts she was living at the time. Thank-you Julie Crocker Melbourne, Australia

Interesting to see so many LIDDLE/LIDDEL postings -- I'm looking for the LITTLE family from Langholm, Dumfries. My great great great grandmother was Janet LITTLE born about 1769 at Langholm; married 1788 Andrew TURNBULL, and d at Hawick, Roxburgh1839. Do you suppose there's any connection between the LIDDLEs and the LITTLEs?? I know the LITTLE family was connected with the Border Reivers - would that account for a name change??? Lucille Richmond ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Saxton <Bob@saxton.prestel.co.uk> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: LIDDLE family > Dear All > This is my first posting to the Borders list although I have been using the Dumfries and Galloway list for some time. > My entry into that area was via my grandmother, Wilhelmina LIDDLE, who was born in Kelton Parish, Castle Douglas in 1870. Through the IGI, Scottish Origins, the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, etc. I have managed to trace all her siblings. > > Her father, James LIDDLE, was born in the Gorbals, Glasgow. There were a number of brothers and sisters but I have not managed to trace them yet. His father, Robert LIDDEL (the sirnames seem to be interchangeable) was born near Duns, Berwickshire, which is why I was so interested in the Borders list. Robert was born in 1812 at Bunkle. His parents were Robert LIddel and Agnes Dickerson. There were two other sons, James born in 1801 in Duns and David born in 1807 in Bunkle. > > I would very much like to know if anyone has found any LIDDLES in this area. I have had help in Dumfries and Galloway from the MIs which are indexed. Is there a similar index for the Duns area? Also the Ewart Library in Dumfries have an excellent indexing service from local papers. Is their inything similar in Berwickshire? > > Thanks in advance, > > Susan (near Helensburgh) > > ______________________________

I have a document from the National Archives of Scotland titled "Scheme of Locality of the Stipend of the Parish of Eccles" for the year 1825. It lists the "landownwers/or heirs", the "property name" and the "stipend now payable". The "stipend now payable" can be paid in "Meal", "Barley", "Wheat", " Oats" or "Money Sterling". It shows what is the "amount to be paid" by each landower. My question is: Under Meal, Barley, Wheat and Oats there are four columns, much as one has "pounds, shillings and pence" under the "Money Sterling" column. However the column headings for "Meal" and other grains has the following letters only: "B" = column 1, "F" = column 2, "P" = column 3, and "L" = column 4. I am thinking that "B" means "bushel", but have no idea what the others letters mean. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. I will also be happy to report any "lookups" on this list of property owners that anyone might be interested in. Thanks in advance. David David Bromfield dbromfield@ucsd.edu San Diego, CA 92109 - "What lies behind us and lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson - Web site: http://welcome.to/The_Bromfields Mirror: http://members.tripod.com/The_Bromfields

My list shows a Jemima LIDDEL who married George GRAHAM of Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, about 1855. They apparently had 15 children. Don't have any information about Jemima's origins. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Saxton [mailto:Bob@saxton.prestel.co.uk] Sent: May 20, 2000 9:31 PM To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: LIDDLE family Dear All This is my first posting to the Borders list although I have been using the Dumfries and Galloway list for some time. My entry into that area was via my grandmother, Wilhelmina LIDDLE, who was born in Kelton Parish, Castle Douglas in 1870. Through the IGI, Scottish Origins, the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, etc. I have managed to trace all her siblings. Her father, James LIDDLE, was born in the Gorbals, Glasgow. There were a number of brothers and sisters but I have not managed to trace them yet. His father, Robert LIDDEL (the sirnames seem to be interchangeable) was born near Duns, Berwickshire, which is why I was so interested in the Borders list. Robert was born in 1812 at Bunkle. His parents were Robert LIddel and Agnes Dickerson. There were two other sons, James born in 1801 in Duns and David born in 1807 in Bunkle. I would very much like to know if anyone has found any LIDDLES in this area. I have had help in Dumfries and Galloway from the MIs which are indexed. Is there a similar index for the Duns area? Also the Ewart Library in Dumfries have an excellent indexing service from local papers. Is their inything similar in Berwickshire? Thanks in advance, Susan (near Helensburgh) ______________________________

Hi Susan, Here are your LIDDLEs in the 1881 census Dwelling: 134 King Street Or Burnside Buildings Census Place: Kelton, Kircudbright, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224057 GRO Ref Volume 869 EnumDist 2 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James LIDDELL M 41 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Baker Margaret LIDDELL M 32 F Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Wife John LIDDELL U 19 M Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coach Painter James LIDDELL U 14 M Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Message Boy Wilhemina LIDDELL U 12 F Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Jane LIDDELL U 9 F Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Maggie LIDDELL U 4 F Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar With regard to Berwickshire, there are 28 Liddle entries, mainly in Longformacus, Coldingham and Ayton. 26 Liddell mainly in Fogo and Channelkirk and nil with the Liddel spelling. Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

Having noticed the Buccleuch thread, I was wondering if anyone knows if any Estate Records exist and how one would go about accessing them? I have an ancestor ,Thomas FORSTER, who was a water bailif for the Duke in the 1870 / 80's. Thank you. Debora in Texas.

Hi Julie, I think you're looking for this family: The Scotts of Buccleuch - Dukedom dates from 1673 Dukes of Buccleuch and Queensberry The Principal residence of the Dukes of Buccleuch is at Branxholm Castle and Dalkeith palace William Henry Walter Montagu Douglas Scott 6th Duke of Buccleuch 8th Duke of Queensberry Earl of Dalkeith Lord-lieutenant of Dumfries-shire elected M.P. for Lothian born on 9 September 1831 in Montague House. died in 1914; he was 82 parents: father: Walter Francis Scott - Duke of Buccleuch mother: Lady Charlotte Anne Thynne Dalkeith palace, the principal residence for this branch of the family, was twice in the 19th century honoured by a visit from royalty: in 1822, when George IV came to Scotland, and in September 1842, when Queen Victoria first arrived in Scotland. Educated at Eton, and Christ Church, Oxford, M.P. for Midlothian 1853-68 and 1874-80, Lord-Lieutenant of Dumfriesshire, D.L. for the counties of Selkirk and Roxburgh, Captain-General of the Royal Archers, made Privy Councillor 1901. Killed as result of gun accident when deer-hunting near Achnacarry in 1914 William Henry Walter, sixth Duke of Buccleuch was married to Lady Louisa, daughter of James, first duke of Abercorn children: 1. Walter Henry Montagu Douglas Born on 17 January 1861 in London. died in near Achnacarry on 18 September 1886 he was 25. Buried in Dalkeith. Earl of Dalkeith 2. John Charles Montague Douglas Scott (1864-1935) - heir 3. George William Montagu Douglas Scott 4. Henry Francis Montague Douglas Scott born on 15 January 1868 in Bowhill Major Third Battalion of the Royal Scots (Lothian) regiment served in the South African way. 5. Herbert Andrew Montagu Douglas Scott born on 30 November 1872 in London. D.S.O. Captain Irish Guards, served in the South African war planted the British flag at Pretoria, A.D.C. to General Sir C. M. Clarke, Governor of Malta 6. Katharine Mary Montagu Douglas Scott born on 25 March 1875 On 29 April 1899 when Katharine Mary Montagu Douglas was 24, she married Thomas Brand son of Brand of Hampden Viscount 7. Constance Anne Montagu Douglas Scott born on 10 March 1877 8. Francis George Montagu Douglas Scott born on 1 November 1879 in Dalkeith. Grenadier Guards served in the South African War

Dear All This is my first posting to the Borders list although I have been using the Dumfries and Galloway list for some time. My entry into that area was via my grandmother, Wilhelmina LIDDLE, who was born in Kelton Parish, Castle Douglas in 1870. Through the IGI, Scottish Origins, the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, etc. I have managed to trace all her siblings. Her father, James LIDDLE, was born in the Gorbals, Glasgow. There were a number of brothers and sisters but I have not managed to trace them yet. His father, Robert LIDDEL (the sirnames seem to be interchangeable) was born near Duns, Berwickshire, which is why I was so interested in the Borders list. Robert was born in 1812 at Bunkle. His parents were Robert LIddel and Agnes Dickerson. There were two other sons, James born in 1801 in Duns and David born in 1807 in Bunkle. I would very much like to know if anyone has found any LIDDLES in this area. I have had help in Dumfries and Galloway from the MIs which are indexed. Is there a similar index for the Duns area? Also the Ewart Library in Dumfries have an excellent indexing service from local papers. Is their inything similar in Berwickshire? Thanks in advance, Susan (near Helensburgh)

Christine, Could you send me any further details please about the Hasties who are mentioned. many thanks, Diana Manchester, UK Date forwarded: Sat, 13 May 2000 07:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Send reply to: "Christine O'Donnell" <karri@i-o.net.au> From: "Christine O'Donnell" <karri@i-o.net.au> Subject: 1891 Census - Lodging House Galashiels Date sent: Sat, 13 May 2000 22:57:22 +1000 To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Dear List Members, This is my first posting to this list and I thought that I would send the inhabitants at the Lodging House of my g-g-grdparents at 7 Overhaugh St, Galashiels. HASTIE, Joseph, 50 HASTIE, Ellen, 49 HASTIE, Joseph, 19 HASTIE, Alexander, 15 HASTIE, David,10 GARRITY, Andrew, 56 SCOTT, Robert, 50 TOMSON, James, 42 BEATTIE, Charles, 50 (I think) GANNON, John, 42 NICOL, John, 48 LEONARD, Patrick, 32 CUCHAN (?), John, 30 COLLINS, George, 64 STEWART, Thomas,29 CHAMBELL, Charles, 29 CROZIER, Lewis, 28 JOHNSTON, Roderick, 32 (or 52?) DUNSTER, Richard, 65 WATSON, Richard, 40 RODGERS, Margaret, 28 DONELLY, John, 32 (I think) TONER(?), Elisabeth, 26 DONELLY, Louise Elisabeth, 3 MCGUIRE, Elisabeth, 46 I hope these help someone Regards, Christine O'Donnell Diana M. Leitch http://www.leitch.u-net.com/diana

Hi Ronald, This would appear to be your James and Barbara, living in Tweedmouth (The part of Berwick upon Tweed on the southern bank of the River Tweed). Extract from the 1881 census Dwelling: 7 Brewery Bank Census Place: Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342239 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5131 Folio 53 Page 36 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James SLIMIN M 65 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Tailor Barbary SLIMIN M 64 F Scotland Rel: Wife Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene