At 04:39 pm 5/28/00 +1000, "Rob MacGregor" <cadhan@interact.net.au>wrote: > > > JANET (born 1836, ETTRICK) dau of JAMES ANDERSON and his wife MARGARET m.s. SWORD married THOMAS GRAHAM at ALEMOOR, ROBERTON 25 FEB 1859. > > Their children MARGARET, WILLIAM, HELEN,JAMES,ELIZABETH and JANE were all born at TRAQUAIR between 1860 and 1872. > > Interested in hearing for anyone with information on this family. > > Rob > >Hello Rob, This is interesting to me, as my Father and his siblings were also born at Traquair! My Grandfather , John HARPER was a factor there, in the late 1800's, and left there about 1905, I believe. He was there about 17 years. Below is the immediate family that lived there. Direct Descendants of John Harper 1 John Harper b: October 06, 1850 in Balmaclellan, Kirkcudbright;Scotland d: October 30, 1918 in Peebles, Scotland Fact 1: buried Kailzie Cemetery,Innerleithen. . +Jane Lindsay b: January 28, 1851 in Ravenshall, kirkcudbright, Scotland d: June 14, 1897 in Kailzie;Innerleithen, Peebleshire, Scotland m: June 11, 1879 in Ravenshall Kirkcudbright, Scotland .. 2 Margaret Harper b: 1880 Fact 1: born at Traquair, Innerleithen. .. 2 William Lindsay Harper b: 1882 Fact 1: b. at Traquair Innerleithen. .. 2 Herbert Stuart Harper b: December 23, 1884 in Traquair, Innerleithen, Peebleshire, Scotland d: May 30, 1964 in Vancouver, B.C. Canada .. 2 Florence Harper b: July 30, 1886 Fact 1: born at Traquair Mains, Innerleithen. .. 2 John Harper b: 1891 in Traquair, Peebles, Scotland. d: August 29, 1982 in Powell River, B.C. Canada Fact 1: August 29, 1982 died at Powell River, B.C. I see from a copy of the 1871 Census of Traquair, there is a : Jardine WALLACE 37, Minister and his wife, Agnes M. age 37, and their children: Robert, Jardine, MAry E., Ida. I know there was a little Traquair Church, as I have a picture of it. I don't recognise any of the names you mentioned. Thought this might interest you, Barbara (Harper) Logan in BC, Canada.

Hi Jennifer, This would appear to be your William and Helen in Selkirk in 1881 Dwelling: 12 The Green Census Place: Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224038 GRO Ref Volume 778 EnumDist 7 Page 29 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William FAIRLEY M 39 M Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Power Loom Tuner Helen FAIRLEY M 39 F Bonnyrigg, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Henry FAIRLEY 9 M Bonnyrigg, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Helen FAIRLEY 5 F Bonnyrigg, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Isabella T. FAIRLEY 3 F Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Daur Ann L. FAIRLEY 9 m F Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Daur I can not find your Isabella or Henry in the census without some idea of a birth year, there is an Isabella B Fairley in Edinburgh listed as a widow born 1811 in Edinburgh. Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

Hi All, I telephone Bowhill Estates this morning and found out that Bowhill Estates comes under the parishes of Ettrick and Lauderdale. All records of past employees are held at the Scottish Records Office in Edinburgh. Hope this helps you a little. This is a site that I found while browsing. Its not free but it maybe helpful as they have records available on-line. Its called Scottish Origins. <A HREF="http://www.origins.net/GRO/">http://www.origins.net/GRO/</A> Sue Atherton Sue Atherton

Trish, I have the MI book for Stichill and Hume. I am afraid there are no HOODs in it or a name which could be similar. My husband is descended from Margaret Robertson who married Robert Leitch c.1795-1800. They both came from Stichill and Hume and are buried at Hume Churchyard. Her parents were Andrew Robertson and Margaret Smail from Hume. I have not been able to trace them as yet but Andrew must have been born about the same time as your Robert. Can you see any connection? The only Robertsons in the Stichill and Hume MI book from roughly the right period are Robert Robertson who died at Hume 19.7.1884 aged 92 years (born c.1792) and Lt Col. Donald Robertson born 14.3.1765 and died 10.2.1824. I have the books for Sprouston and Crailing. There are three other Hood entries other than the one you know about in the Sprouston book. Do you want to know about these? Diana Leitch Manchester, UK Date forwarded: Sun, 28 May 2000 08:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Trish LEWIS" <trishlewis@sprint.ca> Subject: Request Look up Stitchell Hume MI's Date sent: Sun, 28 May 2000 11:29:14 -0300 To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Hi Does anyone have the MI's to Stitchell & Hume. I was thinking of ordering the book, but if there aren't any ROBERTSON's or HOOD's in it, I think I might wait for a bit. If someone can check to see if there are HOOD's listed there, I would greatly appreciate it. Mary HOOD married Robert ROBERTSON and it said she was from Hume and that Robert was of Crailing. She would have been born approx. 1754. She was buried in Sprouston in 1809, but I'm looking to see if her relations may have been buried in Hume. Thank you. Trish LEWIS Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia Diana M. Leitch http://www.leitch.u-net.com/diana

I would appreciate help from SKS out there in locating the birthplace of my g. g. grandfather Robert COSSAR, a tailor by trade.. In the 1881 Census, he was living with his 2nd wife, Isabella DOWNIE and children John, James, Maggie Ann and Robert at 22 Bridge St. in Melrose, Selkirk. In this Census entry he claims to have been born abt. 1821 in Ladykirk Parish, Berwick. However, an exhaustive search of the OPR for Ladykirk could not find an entry for his birth. As directed by other sources of information, I did find births of sons Thomas (18 Apr. 1839) and Robert (29 Oct. 1840) to Robert COSSAR and his 1st wife Isabella ROBERTSON in the OPR of the neighbouring parish of Edrom, Bew. By 1849 Robert and 1st wife Isabella ROBERTSON had moved to Glasgow where they had their 6th and last child, my g. grandmother Isabella Margaret Jane COSSAR b. 18 Nov. 1849 at Glasgow, Lks. (IOPRS Frame 6123). However, I find the prospect of searching the 1851 Glasgow Census a bit daunting! By 1859, Robert’s 1st wife had died and he had a son, Thomas, on July 28th of that year, by his second wife Isabella DOWNIE in Edrom, Bew. So if someone has access to the 1861 Census of that Parish, I would appreciate a Look-up to see if you can find him there, and pass along the information on WHERE HE CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN BORN. Thanks Jim Arnott Victoria, BC, Canada c:\famtree\mln\26rcoss2.doc

Is it possible for someone to check the 1881 census for Henry FAIRLEY and/or his wife Isabella Turner FAIRLEY? According to family stories, Henry was a coachman in the employ of the Duke of Buccleuch at Bowhill and Isabella lived in the gatehouse lodge after Henry's death - but I dont have dates for their deaths. Ive ordered the 1851 census as a beginning but would appreciate help from someone with access to the 81 material. Their son William worked for Murray, Roberts and Co after his discharge from the army in 1869. He and his wife Helen Law FAIRLEY and their young children came to NZ but should also feature in the 81 census for Selkirk. Any help would be much appreciated. Jennifer

Val, According to an old and very big dictionary I have a Bothy or Bothie is defined as:- A house for the accomodation of a number of work people engaged in the same employment; more especially, a kind of barrack in which a number of unmarried male or female farm servants or labourers are lodged in connection with a farm. Hope that helps, Brian From a cold, wet and windy, Dumfries.

JANET (born 1836, ETTRICK) dau of JAMES ANDERSON and his wife MARGARET m.s. SWORD married THOMAS GRAHAM at ALEMOOR, ROBERTON 25 FEB 1859. Their children MARGARET, WILLIAM, HELEN,JAMES,ELIZABETH and JANE were all born at TRAQUAIR between 1860 and 1872. Interested in hearing for anyone with information on this family. Rob

Hello everyone. I am just renewing my request for assistance on the following names :- KETCHEN - Castleton pre 1850 BALLANTYNE - Castleton / Ettrick circa 1750 / 1800 TURNBULL - Castleton pre 1800 HALLIBURTON - Castleton pre 1800 GLENDINNING - Castleton pre 1750 HARDIE - Castleton circa 1800 Thanks...Neil

NICOL GARDINER married JANE BROWN at ECCLES 07 JUN 1850. They had two children ISABELLA b1851 and ALISON b 1853, both at ECCLES and four children born at EARLSTON, GEORGE b 1855, MARGARET b 1857, WILLIAM b 1858 and JANE b 1861. In the 1881 Census GEORGE, WILLIAM and JANE are shown as residing with their parents at MID LODGE, MERTOUN. Interested in hearing from anyone with knowledge of this family Rob

Iam interested in the name Cranston and have a copy of a history of LORD CRANSTOUN from Salt Lake, LDS. Library if any one is interested, the family seems to have married into the Scott Family and Leslie and etc.. One seems to have gone to Ireland during the plantation with Hamilton, If you run into this name while you searching please send me the location. I am having trouble finding any info. Thanks Rose Cranston Dcran41266@aol.com

>Can anyone please help us with a look up? We have come to desperate >measures. We've looked on all the sites we can possibly find on-line but >we're getting nowhere. >We are trying to find out who the parents of the following Watson family are. > >John Forest Watson DOB 24 June 1905 born Craigie, (we believe this is in >Ayrshire) >m. Katherine Stuart Russell DOB 1 April 1911 Westfield Farm Bathgate. JF >father was James Watson unfortunately no dates and mother unknown, > >If any of you wonderful people out there can help we would be forever in your >dept. Since you have their dates of birth, your best bet would be to buy copies of their birth certificates from New Register House, Prince's St, Edinburgh. These will give you both sets of parents, birth places plus father's occupation. Lesley Robertson

Hi all, I'm new to this list and am hoping someone can help me. I have recently discovered my very elusive g-gfather, John Ronald McKenzie (b 1st Sept 1859 in Fodderty Ross & Cromarty) on the 1881 Census. He is entered as a 22 year old undergardener at the Gardens (Bothy) at Floors Castle. My questions are these...and forgive my ignorance on the first...just what is a Bothy? Secondly, are there any records of Floors Castle available which may help me find out more about John McKenzie? Up until this discovery all I knew of him was that he was born in Fodderty and married in 1884 in Greenock East, Renfrewshire. Look forward to being enlightened. Val in a very cool & windy Brisbane.

Hi Does anyone have the MI's to Stitchell & Hume. I was thinking of ordering the book, but if there aren't any ROBERTSON's or HOOD's in it, I think I might wait for a bit. If someone can check to see if there are HOOD's listed there, I would greatly appreciate it. Mary HOOD married Robert ROBERTSON and it said she was from Hume and that Robert was of Crailing. She would have been born approx. 1754. She was buried in Sprouston in 1809, but I'm looking to see if her relations may have been buried in Hume. Thank you. Trish LEWIS Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia

Please could someone tell whether the Bowhill estate was/is in Yarrow or a Selkirk parish ( or some other!)for census checks. Regards Jennifer

Here is my lines from the Borders to first emigrants to AUS and USA. Hoping someone can connect. I have a lot more. Remember this is free please don't donate this to FTW so they can sell it back. Thanks. Chris Bain Westwood, MA USA Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM BONE, m. 24 Jun 1791 Greenlaw, Berwick SCT, JANET TURNBULL 2. i. WILLIAM BONE/BAIN, b. 1796, d. 6 Mar 1856. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM BONE/BAIN (William1), b. 1796 Greenlaw, Berwick SCT, d. 6 Mar 1856 at Blackburn farm, Lauder, SCT, m. 10 Nov 1815 Greenlaw, Berwick SCT, ELIZABETH RAE, b. 1790 Coldstream/Greenlaw SCT, d. 25 Jan 1855 at Blackburn farm, Lauder, SCT, dau. of ALEXANDER RAE and MARGARET.. i. WILLIAM BAIN, b. 1817; d. 1817. ii. WILLIAM BAIN, b. 1820. iii. MARGARET BAIN, b. 1823. iv. JANET BAIN, b. 1824; d. 1824. 3. v. JANET BAIN, b. 1825, d. 4 Oct 1896. 4. vi. ALEXANDER BAIN, b. 1827, d. 28 Dec 1860. Generation No. 3 3. JANET BAIN (William1, William2), b. 1825 Greenlaw, Berwick SCT, d. 4 Oct 1896 Torwoodlee, Stow SCT, m. 31 May 1846 St. Boswells, Roxburgh, SCT WILLIAM RENTON, b. 1819 Edinburgh, Dalkeith SCT, d. bef. 1896 SCT. 5. i. ROBERT RENTON, b. 28 Sep 1846, St. Boswells, Roxburgh, SCT; d. 9 Dec 1918, Dawson, South Australia. ii. WILLIAM B. RENTON, b. 1850, Galashiels, SCT. iii. JOHN RENTON, b. 1851, St. Boswells, Roxburgh, SCT. iv. PETER RENTON, b. 1851, St. Boswells, Roxburgh, SCT. v. ELIZABETH RENTON, b. 1853, Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT. vi. THOMAS RENTON, b. Bef. 17 Apr 1856, Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT. vii. JANET RENTON, b. Bef. 15 Sep 1858, Ledgerwood, Berwickshire, SCT; m. JOHN PURVES, 31 Dec 1874, Swinton and Simpron, Berwickshire, SCT. viii. GEORGE RENTON, b. Bef. 30 Jan 1861, Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT. 6. ix. MARGARET RENTON, b. Bef. 5 Oct 1863, Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT. x. ALEXANDER RENTON, b. Bef. 17 Mar 1865, Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT. 4. ALEXANDER BAIN (WILLIAM2 BONE/BAIN, WILLIAM1 BONE) b. 1827 in SCT, and d. 28 Dec 1860 in Blackchester, Lauder Berwickshire, SCT. m. ISABELLA BAPTIE, daughter of THOMAS BAPTIE and MARY ANDERSON. b. 1828 in Langburnshiels, SCT, and d. Abt. 1900 in Florida. 7. i. MARY BAIN, b. 1849, SCT; d. 30 Mar 1937, Hyde Park MA. 8. ii. WILLIAM BAIN, b. 1853, Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT; d. 13 Jun 1932, Umatilla, FL. iii. ELIZABETH BAIN, b. 1854, Blackchester,Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT; d. 16 Sep 1856, Blackchester, Lauder Berwickshire, SCT. 9. iv. ALEXANDER THOMAS BAIN, b. 24 Jan 1857, Blackchester, Berwickshire, SCT. v. HELLEN BAIN, b. 6 Nov 1859, Blackchester, Berwickshire, SCT; d. Bef. 1920, Eustis FL; m. WALTER CHISHOLM, 14 Dec 1887, Hyde Park, Norfolk, MA USA; b. 3 Nov 1860, Weensland, Hawick, SCT. Generation No. 4 5. ROBERT RENTON (JANET3 BAIN, WILLIAM2 BONE/BAIN, WILLIAM1 BONE) b. 28 Sep 1846 in St. Boswells, Roxburgh, SCT, and d. 9 Dec 1918 in Dawson, South Australia. m. JANET MURRAY 18 Jun 1866 in Cockpen, Midlothian, SCT, daughter of THOMAS MURRAY and MADELENA YOUNG. b. 18 Sep 1846 in Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT, and d. 14 Feb 1925 in Dawson, South Australia. 10. i. JANET RENTON, b. 16 May 1867, Alberton, Adelaide, South Australia; d. 16 Aug 1927, Oodla Wirra, South Australia. ii. MADELINE RENTON, b. 10 Apr 1869, Port Adelaide, South Australia; m. J KENNEDY. 11. iii. WILLIAM RENTON, b. 21 Nov 1871, Gottliebs Wells, South Australia. iv. ELIZABETH RENTON, b. 7 Sep 1873; d. Abt. 1944, South Australia. 12. v. ROBERT BONE RENTON, b. 24 Aug 1875, Yarcowie, South Australia. vi. ALEXANDER MURRAY RENTON, b. 8 Feb 1878, Terowie, South Australia; d. 1879, Terowie, South Australia. vii. LILLIE ADELAIDE RENTON, b. 22 Nov 1880, Terowie, South Australia; d. 11 Sep 1883, Terowie, South Australia. viii. ROSE ALEXANDRIA RENTON, b. 4 Aug 1882, Terowie, South Australia. ix. THOMAS GEORGE RENTON, b. 3 Oct 1885, Terowie, South Australia. 6. MARGARET RENTON (JANET3 BAIN, WILLIAM2 BONE/BAIN, WILLIAM1 BONE) b. Bef. 5 Oct 1863 in Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT. m. GEORGE DICKSON 19 Mar 1872 in Swinton and Simpron, Berwickshire, SCT. i. WILLIAM DICKSON, b. 3 Apr 1873, Swinton And Simpron, Berwick, SCT. ii. JOHN DICKSON, b. 25 Jul 1874, Swinton And Simpron, Berwick, SCT. 7. MARY BAIN (ALEXANDER3, WILLIAM2 BONE/BAIN, WILLIAM1 BONE) b. 1849 in SCT, and d. 30 Mar 1937 in Hyde Park MA. m. (2) ROBERT WHITE 4 Sep 1880 in Hyde Park, MA, son of JOHN WHITE and JANE HAMILTON. b. 19 Oct 1851 in Galashiels, SCT, and d. 3 Sep 1910 in Hyde Park MA. 13. i. JAMES ALEXANDER BAIN, b. 12 Apr 1871, Galashiels SCT; d. 17 Mar 1964, Hyde Park MA. 14. ii. JOHN FRANCIS5 WHITE, b. 9 Aug 1881, Hyde Park MA; d. 19 Dec 1917, Hyde Park MA. iii. ISABEL ALLEN WHITE, b. 26 May 1883, Hyde Park MA; d. 9 Dec 1886, Hyde Park MA. iv. MARY JANE WHITE, b. 2 Jul 1884, Hyde Park MA; d. 1885, Hyde Park MA. v. HELEN GRACE WHITE, b. 11 Jun 1888, Hyde Park MA; d. 9 Jun 1890, Hyde Park MA. vi. WILLIAM THOMAS WHITE, b. 19 May 1890, Hyde Park MA; d. 3 Sep 1910, Hyde Park MA. vii. FLORA MAXWELL WHITE, b. 28 Jan 1893, Umatilla, FL; d. 14 Nov 1996, Norwood MA. 8. WILLIAM BAIN (ALEXANDER3, WILLIAM2 BONE/BAIN, WILLIAM1 BONE) b. 1853 in Lauder, Berwickshire, SCT, and d. 13 Jun 1932 in Umatilla, FL. m. JANE WHITE 10 Oct 1873 in Galashiels, SCT, daughter of JOHN WHITE and JANE HAMILTON. b. 1849 in SCT, and d. 16 Dec 1905 in Umatilla FL. i. JANIE BAIN, b. 26 Mar 1881, Hyde Park MA; d. 18 Mar 1968, Umatilla FL; m. MILLER, Umatilla, FL. 9. ALEXANDER THOMAS BAIN (ALEXANDER3, WILLIAM2 BONE/BAIN, WILLIAM1 BONE) b. 24 Jan 1857 in Blackchester, Berwickshire, SCT. m. MARGARET T. MAXWELL, daughter of ROBERT MAXWELL and MAGGIE. b. 1860 in SCT. i. ALEXANDER THOMAS BAIN, JR., b. 13 Dec 1881, Hudson, MA; d. 29 Jun 1896, Hyde Park, Norfolk, MA USA. ii. ROBERT BAIN, b. 10 Oct 1889, Hyde Park MA.

Good Morning Val As I grew up in a Bothy I do have some info for you on what it is. Webster's Dictionary describes it as " a rude hut or barrack for unmarried farm servants or for labourers in the same employ" and that is what our home originally was built as (although I would not classify it as 'rude'!) It was located on a large estate in southern Scotland, and had originally housed up to 8 garden labourers who worked on the estate gardens. These men were usually single, each had their own room and were looked after by a lady (cook/housekeeper) who had a small 2-room flat adjoining our house. By the time we came to live there (1952), the "good old days" of plentiful cheap labour were over and the house was used just for our family. However, it was an unusual design (as you can imagine) and quite impressive. It had central heating (a luxury in the UK at the time that it was built (~ 1860s)) and was our home for many a year. I haven't looked for genealogically-related records for Floors but the Castle is a huge affair, and home of the Duke of Roxburough (although rather dismal inside -- it is open to the public). My cousins lived across the river on the Springwood Estate just outside Kelso and I was often in the vicinity. It is absolutely BEAUTIFUL countryside and worth a visit if you have never been there Good luck in your searching Jim Arnott In Dull, Cool and Showery Victoria, Vancouver Island val mansell wrote: > > Hi all, > I'm new to this list and am hoping someone can help me. I have recently > discovered my very elusive g-gfather, John Ronald McKenzie (b 1st Sept > 1859 in Fodderty Ross & Cromarty) on the 1881 Census. He is entered as a > 22 year old undergardener at the Gardens (Bothy) at Floors Castle. > My questions are these...and forgive my ignorance on the first...just > what is a Bothy? Secondly, are there any records of Floors Castle > available which may help me find out more about John McKenzie? Up until > this discovery all I knew of him was that he was born in Fodderty and > married in 1884 in Greenock East, Renfrewshire. > Look forward to being enlightened. > Val > in a very cool & windy Brisbane.

Can anyone please help us with a look up? We have come to desperate measures. We've looked on all the sites we can possibly find on-line but we're getting nowhere. We are trying to find out who the parents of the following Watson family are. Alexander Humble DOB 13 February 1906, Dunbar Close, Cano, Edinburgh mother Anne Humble father unknown m. Wilhemina Watt Hobb DOB 20 April 1906, Primrose Street Edinburgh Mother Anne mother Wilhemina Corrigan c 1889 father Alexander Hobb If any of you wonderful people out there can help we would be forever in your dept. Sue Atherton

Can anyone please help us with a look up? We have come to desperate measures. We've looked on all the sites we can possibly find on-line but we're getting nowhere. We are trying to find out who the parents of the following Watson family are. John Forest Watson DOB 24 June 1905 born Craigie, (we believe this is in Ayrshire) m. Katherine Stuart Russell DOB 1 April 1911 Westfield Farm Bathgate. JF father was James Watson unfortunately no dates and mother unknown, If any of you wonderful people out there can help we would be forever in your dept. Thanks Sue Atherton

N E 1 have info on Cavers family turn of 18th Century? I have located a Sixth generation ancestor from Kirkton Nr Hawick Roxburghshire, Walter Cavers, born 1799, moved to Nottingham and had 10 children, Married a Scottish lass, Jane Martin, b.circa1806 (I don't as yet know where she is from, as they Married in Nottingham ), possible Brothers were James b.1796 and perhaps William 1801? It's also a possibility that their Father was also named James. To view the line, on-line, so to speak, call up http://members.tripod.co.uk/nottsderbybus/Cavers/Cavers