GLFanning@aol.com wrote: I have Thomas Oliver b 1765 Morebattle d 1838; married to Jane Baptie 1811 in Southdean. I can find no further records on her. To me, Baptie is such an unusual name--Scottish, maybe French? Is anyone working on Baptie? They had children: George William Thomas Andrew James Oliver b 1821; m 1848 Elizabeth Hunter John Alexander Isabel Robert and one more daughter I have these Bapties in the same general area. Jim Higgs Plainwell, Michigan Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 BAPTIE was born Abt. 1756 in Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland. He married JANET STODDART September 29, 1781 in Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland. She was born Abt. 1760. Children of WILLIAM BAPTIE and JANET STODDART are: 2. i. BARBARA2 BAPTIE, b. Abt. 1782, Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland. ii. ELIZABETH BAPTIE, b. January 19, 1785, Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland. iii. ISOBEL BAPTIE, b. May 28, 1783, Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland. iv. JEAN BAPTIE, b. January 03, 1791, Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland. v. MARGARET BAPTIE, b. June 20, 1787, Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland. Generation No. 2 2. BARBARA2 BAPTIE (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1782 in Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland. She married WILLIAM ROBSON August 18, 1809 in Southdean, Roxburgh, Scotland. Child of BARBARA BAPTIE and WILLIAM ROBSON is: i. ISOBEL3 ROBSON, b. Abt. 1811, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland; d. October 08, 1889, Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland; m. ALEXANDER TAYLOR, February 12, 1830, Southdean, Roxburgh, Scotland; b. 1810, Scotland; d. January 22, 1877, Linton, Roxburgh, Scotland.

So what were they ? You ask public and the answer comes in privately, if asked publicly please answer so all can see. That is why we are on the "List" Regards, Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Hoskins <judith@dreemskerry.demon.co.uk> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Graham and naming customs > Thank you to everyone who replied putting me straight on the Scottish > naming custom! > > Best wishes, > Judith > nr Bath, Somerset > -- > Judith Hoskins > >

I'm looking for some advice on how to obtain any information available on my great-grandparents, William OLIVER and Margaret SMART. I have approximate dates of birth (1830's) and I know they died after 1906. I have their marriage date and some details on their ten children. According to my information, they are both buried in Coldingham Churchyard in Berwick. What I'm looking for specifically in this instance is any information that might be recorded on any markers that might exist on their graves. Ideally, (and I don't know if these sorts of records are kept) I'd like to know if there is any living person, i.e., a descendant, who has an interest in or responsibility for the graves. Can anyone suggest to whom I might write to obtain such information? Thanks for your help. Bill Pryde Nepean, Ontario, Canada

Hi Viv, Although not one of the Border counties, I have a copy of the MIs for Norham, NBL and only a quarter mile from Ladykirk in Berwickshire. There are quite a lot of Scottish deaths listed on the Norham graves. I am willing to look up specific names for anyone. Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

I have Thomas Oliver b 1765 Morebattle d 1838; married to Jane Baptie 1811 in Southdean. I can find no further records on her. To me, Baptie is such an unusual name--Scottish, maybe French? Is anyone working on Baptie? They had children: George William Thomas Andrew James Oliver b 1821; m 1848 Elizabeth Hunter John Alexander Isabel Robert and one more daughter

Hi This list is nice as my dads family are from Nothumberland and Cumberland, and Mums from Scottish borders (Are Selkirk and Roxburgh counted I know Berwick is). As later generations are Lancashire and Yorkshire this is the only list I can post both. USHER and PEARSON Anna married William Usher in Newcastle, probably about 1914. They had sons William, Arthur and Fredrick. Anna died in Penrith in 1970s. Her sister Bella married a Mr Neil(?) Pearson they settled in Wallsend. RAE William Rae b 1823 Berwick, married Isobel Easton/Beattie (b1824 Lilliesleaf, Rox) 1848 Melrose, Rox, They had 1 son and 8 daughters. Charlotte

Hi all, Just a quick question. Is there a list somewhere of the MI's that have been published, (or have been collated) in the Borders area. I am particularly interested in the Hawick, Wilton and Bowden areas, although if there is a list of all MIs available then this would be useful. Thanks, Cameron. Melbourne, Australia.

Hi Folks, The Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS have indexed much of the 1851 census. Try www.gwsfhs.org.uk for info. Stuart. Chris & Sheila Hale wrote: > > > By 1849 Robert and 1st wife Isabella ROBERTSON had moved to Glasgow > > where they had their 6th and last child, my g. grandmother Isabella > > Margaret Jane COSSAR b. 18 Nov. 1849 at Glasgow, Lks. (IOPRS Frame > > 6123). However, I find the prospect of searching the 1851 Glasgow > > Census a bit daunting! > > There are trade directories available for every year for > Glasgow. If you have access to a LDS Family History Center you > can order them on fiche. They are only 1 or 2 fiche for each > year. I ordered them for the census year and a year or so on > either side of it. This gave me an address to look my folks up > in the Census. Worked like a charm > > Sheila I Hale

Hi Cameron, >Just a quick question. Is there a list somewhere of the MI's that have been >published, (or have been collated) in the Borders area. I am particularly >interested in the Hawick, Wilton and Bowden areas, although if there is a list >of all MIs available then this would be useful. Details of published MIs are listed under Cemeteries on the relevant Roxburghshire parish pages in GENUKI, indeed for all of the Scottish Border counties I maintain (Berwickshire and Selkirkshire, and to a lesser caretaking extent Peeblesshire). Where there are county MI collections, these are listed on my Scottish Border county pages (e.g. Berwickshire, Peeblesshire), again under the subject heading Cemeteries. Of course I can only list the MIs that I know about. Should other people learn of or know about other available MIs I'd be grateful if they could let me know so that I can add details to my parish/county pages in GENUKI. This includes details of MIs in local libraries and/or archives: living away from the Borders now I can't find out about these so easily. Finding MIs listed on the pages does not always make it easy to access the lists though. For example with MI lists for the Hawick area (of which there are many: see the Hawick and Wilton parish pages in GENUKI) many are in old issues of the Hawick Archaeological Society's Transactions, not necessarily things that are easy to access outside Scotland. But finding out about the existence of the MIs is a vital first step. Again though look at GENUKI (http://www.genuki.org.uk/) and follow the hierarchy down, e.g. to UK&Ireland (the big map in the centre), then Scotland, then pick your county (e.g. Roxburghshire), then parish (e.g. Hawick) and then look under Cemeteries. The Borders FHS has recently published an MI booklet for Ancrum. I haven't updated the Ancrum parish page in GENUKI yet. I will do soon! Hope this helps! Viv Dunstan Fife, Scotland (but originally from Hawick, Roxburghshire)

The LDS Family History Catalogue is now available on CD-ROM for sale to home users for US $5. Aus$8. It may be ordered online by visiting http://www.familysearch.org/ then clicking on "Ordering Family History Resources" then "Software Products" then "Personal Ancestral File and Related Products". Or contact your local LDS Distribution Centre This CD-ROM may be a cheaper alternative rather than visiting the Family History Catalogue online for those of you who pay for Internet access by the minute. I ordered my copy yesterday, from Sydney and was told I should have it in 3 weeks, you need Microsoft Internet Explorer to read it, I believe, not sure if it comes with it in the CD, or you have to have it on your computer, I will wait and see, , Just another tool to find what films the LDS have, that my ancestors are hiding in.. Max in Aust.

Creann, I don't have any information for you but I am in desperate need of your help if it is within your expertise. I am trying to solve a puzzle with my Mathers from the Borders area. I am from America so forgive me if I make any blunders. My earliest Mather is Andrew. I don't have a birthdate on him but it would be ca.1889. I have found his marriage record in the IGI as such:May 21, 1809 to MARTHA Ricarby Norham, Northumberland, England. There is a record on IGI for Robert Mather ch.3-10-1812 Golden Square Presby. Father:Andrew Mather Mother:Martha . There is a record for John Mather ch.4-8-1814Golden Square Presby. Father:Andrew Mather Mother:Margaret(?).Elizabeth Mather ch.3-17-1816 Golden Square Presby. Father: Andrew Mather Mother: Margaret. The second son John Mather is my ancestor. We were always told his father was also John Mather and mother was Martha Rickaby(Ricarby). Now there is also a Margaret thrown in to the mix. Is there any way you could check this out for me? Possibly the marriage of Andrew and Martha in 1809? Maybe she was Martha Margaret Ricarby or something? If you can help I would appreciate it. Thanks, Margaret

Greetings- I have a great-grandmother Margaret BARWICK (born 1863) who lived in Cumberland close enough to the border to throw a stone and have it land in Scotland. She had a sister Annie who may have married a BYERS and a brother whose daughter's name was Harriet BEATIE. Harriet's daughter, a J. BARROW, was last known to be living in Glasgow. I'd be interested in contacting the descendants of any of these families. Regards, Aletha

Willam KERSE of Ccoldstream was drowned in the River Till in Nov 1835 and was interred at Ford(According to Coldstream Parish records). If anyone has Monumental Inscriptions for Ford, I would be very grateful for a lookup for William KERSE. Thanks Peter Kerse

> By 1849 Robert and 1st wife Isabella ROBERTSON had moved to Glasgow > where they had their 6th and last child, my g. grandmother Isabella > Margaret Jane COSSAR b. 18 Nov. 1849 at Glasgow, Lks. (IOPRS Frame > 6123). However, I find the prospect of searching the 1851 Glasgow > Census a bit daunting! There are trade directories available for every year for Glasgow. If you have access to a LDS Family History Center you can order them on fiche. They are only 1 or 2 fiche for each year. I ordered them for the census year and a year or so on either side of it. This gave me an address to look my folks up in the Census. Worked like a charm Sheila I Hale

Hi All, I am hoping that some kind soul out there has the MIs for Newton St Boswells and Maxton and would do a look up for the name MITCHELL in them - I have finally made a breakthrough in my research, but am stumbling on my lack of ROX MI booklets - most have been checked out for me very kindly, but I have a strange hunch that St Boswells is the place! I have a lot of info for North Northumberland if anyone needs any look-ups there. Many thanks in anticipation. Creann Pieroni

I'm interested in any information on this Post Office circa 1851 to 1903 when my g/g/g and g/g grandfathers (William and James AMOS) were resident there as Postmasters/rural messengers. It was a sub post office of the main one in Hawick. I have had some research completed re post office archives and the usual census, OPR etc etc I believe the building is still there and is also known as the Old TollHouse at Ashkirk. Has anyone information on the history of this place or can tell me where to go next to find same? Many Thanks Geoff Amos New Zealand

Hi Jennifer, Further to Jim's email, Bowhill Estate is listed under Selkirk in the 1881 census. e.g. Dwelling: Bowhill Estate Lodge Census Place: Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224038 GRO Ref Volume 778 EnumDist 11 Page 1 Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

Hello, I'm quite new to the list and joined because although my GRAHAM ancestors came from Cumberland I've traced them back to Arthuret right on the border. Is anyone else researching Grahams around 1800 from Arthuret? My other query is about naming customs. I understand the Scots had a particular method of choosing their childrens names but I don't know what the "pattern" is. Can SKS please enlighten me? Thanks, Judith Hoskins nr Bath, Somerset -- Judith Hoskins

Seeking info on Robert Herriott m Catherine Ross a farmer living at Newburn near Norham. Son Robert Herriott born 8.6.1845 later moved to Edinburgh married (when a widower) Christina Kemp (1861-1945) (widow) 1906. He was married before but to whom? Died (coming home from pub they say) 1917 aged 71. Drove shunter train at Gasworks in Edinburgh. Any info available? Thank you.

I live 1 mile from the post office. If you write to the local archive they will have some info at Borders Library Headquarters St Mary's Mill Selkirk Scotland Tel. 01750 20842 Fax 01750 20875 -- Ian Playfair Tweeddale Press Group Publishers of quality weekly newspapers in the UK. Visit our website: tweeddalepress.co.uk On Monday, May 29, 2000, Geoff <geoffa@southnet.co.nz> wrote: >I'm interested in any information on this Post Office circa 1851 to 1903 >when my g/g/g and g/g grandfathers (William and James AMOS) were >resident there as Postmasters/rural messengers. It was a sub post office >of the main one in Hawick. I have had some research completed re post >office archives and the usual census, OPR etc etc > >I believe the building is still there and is also known as the Old >TollHouse at Ashkirk. > >Has anyone information on the history of this place or can tell me >where to go next to find same? > >Many Thanks > >Geoff Amos >New Zealand > >