I'd appreciate it if anyone with access to the 1881 British Census could check in Roxburghshire for entries pertaining to James O. MINTO and a wife (Margaret?) and possibly children Janet, James and Andrew. Thanks for your help. Bill Pryde Nepean, Ontario, Canada

Hi everyone, For many months now this surname list (at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/2039/) has been frozen and people have been unable to contact the list maintainer to add new surnames, update existing entries etc. For many months I've tried in vain to contact the maintainer of the list, using an email address that did work (unlike the one on the list pages), at least until today when her email quota seems full! I've decided now to take over the list and maintain it much like my existing Roxburghshire and Selkirkshire surname lists. The surname list for Berwickshire is very similar anyway - indeed I set up its original list pages in October 1997 and passed them onto the current maintainer to look after then. It shouldn't be too hard for me to run. It will take me several days to copy the existing surname list entries and put them up on a new website. I will also need to email all the people who have submitted entries to the Berwickshire Surname List in the past (who have entries in there already) to check that their email addresses work and/or if they want to update their entries. Some people who have submitted entries will have changed their email address so the address that I use to try to contact them will not work. If you fall into this category (i.e. have submitted an entry or entries, but the contact details for you on the currently frozen list are out- of-date) can you please email me to let me have your new email address. When the new version of the Berwickshire Surname List is up and running I will post a short message here, and also arrange for links to be made to it from places like GENUKI, GenWeb, Cyndi's List, etc. etc. Then I will be very happy to receive new entries to the list, especially from people who have tried in the past to submit them but without success. But in the meantime can I please ask for a little patience? Many thanks and best wishes. Viv Dunstan http://www.vivdunstan.clara.net/

William H KERSE(born c. 1848), the son of William KERSE Tailor of Leitholm, married Jane MITCHEL, possibly also of Leitholm. They moved to Kells in Ireland and had a family of 9 children. There are no birth/christening records in the OPR of either of these(or their marriage) or 4 of Williams siblings, and 3 of his cousins, all born in Eccles Parish over the 1841 to 1856 period. There was a non-conformist church in Leitholm at this period, and it is quite possible that their records rest her, ie at the SRO. I would be interest in any later information on the Mitchel family, ie the births of the children of those listed. Peter Kerse Wanganui New Zealand

I'm having some difficulty tracking my gg grandfather and ggg grandfather, both named John Darling and both from Berwickshire. Part of the problem is that family lore identifies the younger John Darling as having been born in 1824 at Kelso, while FamilySearch on the Internet says John Darling was born 11 May 1824 at Edrom to John Darling and Elisabeth Wight. Scottish Church records from the LDS say John Darling was born 11 May 1824 at Duns. Cemetery records at Aspdin, Muskoka, Ontario, Canada, where the Darlings settled after emigrating about 1850, says the younger John Darling's mother, Elizabeth, was born in 1801 and died in 1888. FamilySearch identifies her as Elisabeth Wight, married to John Darling on 3 May 1823 at Duns. born about 1802 in Berwickshire and died in 1843 in Scotland. Her husband, the elder John Darling, is shown as born in May 1800 in Berwickshore and died 7 Jun 1872 in Vernon, Waukesha, Wisconsin, USA after a second marriage to Susan Bertram. Does anyone have any ideas about how to resolve these conflicts? -- Peterborough, Ontario, Canada family website - http://www3.sympatico.ca/roger.dray/index.html

I am looking of information on my g-g-g-grandfather William Black who married Isabella Stewart on 31 Dec 1833 in Neilston Parish Renfrew. William was born around 1804 and died between 1845 and 1851. His occupation was a Coal Miner. Isabella was christened 11 Oct 1802 in Ardnamurchan Argyll and died 22 Oct 1885 in Macks Land, Baillieston, Old Monkland, Lanark. As of this moment I know they had at least six children: Walter Black born about 1834 in New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton Hugh Black born 15 Jul 1836 in Campsie Stirling. Hugh married Agnes Teesdale on 12 Jun 1857 in Dalserf, Lanark. William Black born about 1838 in Campsie Stirling John Black born 28 Jun 1840 in Govan, Renfrew Alison Black born about 1843 in Shettleston, Lanark who married Robert Morton in 1859 and Alexander Munro in 1873. James Black born about 1845 in Shettleston, Lanark. William’s place of birth is unknown. However, according to the 1841 census he was not born in Lanarkshire, even though at the time he was working there. Any information on William Black or his descendants would be appreciated. ie. Birth, death, marriages, offspring’s etc. Though the biggest part of my quest is in finding the parents and siblings of William Black.

Hi Doug Found some of your family on 1851 and 1881 Census Indexes >ggrandfather William Henry Blackadder Thompson and his parents David >Blackadder Thompson / Margaret Hogg who resided in Northumberland. Index to 1851 Census of Northumberland Vol 24 Glendale Part 1 (Ford) Registration District 562/1. Piece No HO 107/2422 Folios 4-301 (Name, Relationship, Marital Status, Occupation, Birthplace, Folio No) THOMPSON, David Hd M 42 Groom, --- Berwick/Tweed, 158 THOMPSON, Margaret Wi M 47 ----, NBL Ford, 158 THOMPSON, William, So -- 9 Scholar, NBL Ford, 158 THOMPSON, Eleanor, Da -- 7 Scholar, NBL Ford, 158 Folio 158 would correspond to Pallinsburn Cottages area. There were a lot of other Thompsons listed - some may be relatives, also several Hoggs. > I understand that David Blackadder Thompson was head coachman for >Sir Henry Askew MP at Pallinsburn House. Also found at Folio 139 which corresponds with Pallinsburn - possibly Sir Henry's parents: ASKEW, Richard Craster Hd M 72 Landed Proprietor, NBL Ford 139 ASKEW, Elizabeth Wi M 62 Landed Prop's wife, NBL Newc St Nich 139 >I have information which makes >me believe that William may have been born circa 1841 but have been >unable to find any record either in St Catherine's House Index or the >Scots GRO. Census shows William was born at Ford - should therefore be in St Catherine's Index as this started 1837 but is bad to read for early years. Have another look or try Eleanor's birth as her certificate should give same information. The local register office at Berwick may be able to find William's birth more easily as they have own indexes - not sure if Ford is under Glendale district or Berwick - but they should know. However if you are overseas this contact may be more difficult for you - also payment for certificate. On his Son (William's ) Marriage certificate in NSW >Australia his father and mother (David Thompson / Margaret Hogg) were >reported to be alive in Northumberland in 1881. David Thompson's >occupation was specified as a farmer. I think William may have been prone to a bit exaggeration to new bride - often happens - and being several thousand miles away not likely to be found out - til now, as I found this on 1881 Census Index Dwelling: 4 Lambton Place Census Place: Newcastle On Tyne St Andrew, Northumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342220 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5059 Folio 12 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David THOMPSON W 72 M Northumberland, England Rel: Head Occ: Groom (HM) No sign of Margaret - above states he is widower. I do not know what (HM) means - perhaps more information on actual census. This was the only Eleanor with a birthplace of Ford of correct age - may be this is where farming connection comes in: Dwelling: Newton House Census Place: Newton By The Sea, Northumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342238 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5125 Folio 60 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Joseph PRINGLE M 37 M Freeman Hill, Northumberland, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer Of 590 Acres Employing 12 Labourers & 2 Boys Ellen PRINGLE M 36 F Ford, Northumberland, England Rel: Wife Occ: Farmer Wife Ralph SHORT U 23 M Kilham, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Farmer Servant (Inddors) Easter CLARKE U 19 F Atchwood, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: General Domestic Servant ASKEWS were still at Pallinsburn with lots of servants! Dwelling: Pallinsburn House Census Place: Ford, Northumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342239 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5133 Folio 53 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Watson ASKEW M 46 M Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Rel: Head Occ: J P Landowner Sarah ASKEW M 44 F London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Bridget Watson ASKEW U 16 F Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary M. ASKEW U 14 F Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Isabel Sarah ASKEW U 13 F Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Eliza GUTCH U 31 F Australia Rel: Visitor Occ: Governess William ATKINS U 23 M Newcastle, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Groom Domestic Servant Alexander LIDSTER U 23 M Carham, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Groom Domestic Servant William CASTLE U 22 M London, Middlesex, England Rel: Servant Occ: Footman Domestic Servant Eugene PICKLAND U 22 M Switzerland Rel: Servant Occ: Footman Domestic Servant Margaret DONN U 41 F Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Housekeeper Margaret W.R. CRAIK U 27 F London, Middlesex, England Rel: Servant Occ: Ladys Maid Servant Mary Ann DIXON U 40 F Newcastle, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Laundry Maid Servant Elizabeth MORPHY U 32 F Brockham, Surrey, England Rel: Servant Occ: Nurse Caroline M. BARGE U 19 F Weymouth, Dorset, England Rel: Servant Occ: Ladys Maid Servant Sarah PORTER U 20 F Graystoke, Cumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Housemaid Servant Frances DAVIDSON U 21 F Ford, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: laundry Maid Servant Harriet M. CARTWRIGHT U 23 F Sandbach, Cheshire, England Rel: Servant Occ: Kitchen Maid Servant Mary STEEL U 25 F Ford, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: House Maid Servant Jane HOPE U 22 F Ford, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: House Maid Servant Mary J. WINTER U 19 F Ford, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Laundry Maid Servant Eleanor M. SHARPE U 19 F Ford, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: House Maid Servant Hannah TOPPIN U 16 F Ford, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Scullery Maid Servant I hope this has given you some leads to follow up. Best wishes Jane Glass Alnwick, Northumberland

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Edwards" <bredwards@datafast.net.au> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: Re Greenlaw, > Hi Diana, Thought I would re post this, > am I askig to much if you could please see if there are any Aitchison or Cairns in your book. I would be most grateful,. > Thank you. > Ruth Edwards. >

Hello Listers, I am new to the Border listings but have traced many of my family through other Rootsweb sites. I am trying to find any details of my ggrandfather William Henry Blackadder Thompson and his parents David Blackadder Thompson / Margaret Hogg who resided in Northumberland. I understand that David Blackadder Thompson was head coachman for Sir Henry Askew MP at Pallinsburn House. I have information which makes me believe that William may have been born circa 1841 but have been unable to find any record either in St Catherine's House Index or the Scots GRO. On his Son (William's ) Marriage certificate in NSW Australia his father and mother (David Thompson / Margaret Hogg) were reported to be alive in Northumberland in 1881. David Thompson's occupation was specified as a farmer. What I am specifically looking for is any BDM records or Census information which may help me to trace these three persons. I believe Palinsburn House is in Ford Parish, Crookham Constablewick. If anyone could could provide any information which may help me find this my people it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Doug Johnson

I'm researching my 3x great grandfather Alexander MORTON (a gardener) and his wife Margaret GOWAN/COWAN (daughter of Charles, a weaver). They married at Edinburgh, St Cuthbert's in 1806 but were in the area around Jedburgh and Crailing from then until around 1812. In 1812/1813 they moved to Alnwick, Northumberland where I believe Alexander worked for Henry Collingwood Selby Esq. They later moved to Causey Park, Northumberland then Newcastle upon Tyne. They had children baptised: David (at Crailing, 1805 or possibly 1806), Mary (at Crailing, 1811), Henry Collingwood Selby (at Alnwick, 1813) and Margaret (at Alnwick, 1815). The Scottish OPR index wrongly lists David and Mary under the surname MARTON, but the registers clearly show the name as MORTON. The OPR index also lists the baptism at Jedburgh of John MARTIN, son of Alexander MARTIN and Margaret GOWAN - they may be "my" family but I haven't been able to check the original register yet. I'd love to hear from anyone with MORTON connections on either side of the border. Over the last few years I've been compiling a database of MORTONs in Northumberland (I'm now going to extend it to South-east Scotland) and I'd be happy to search it for anyone. Additional entries from your family histories would also be most welcome. Can anyone provide me with further information on Crailing? GENUKI gives a little, but I'd like to know who the major land-owners were? Which families were likely to have employed a gardener in the early days of the 19th century. Neil Morton

Hi, Me again... a bit fast off the mark!! HISLOP (Peebles) ROBERTSON (Peebles) TOD (Lanark - Peebles) ROBB (Peebles) WATSON (Peebles) HODGE (Lanark - Peebles) Over the period 1790's to 1860's. Thanks. Pam

The Whitsome OPR index shows a James Miller son of John M. and Mary Spark bap. 2 mar 1818, and Isabella to the same parents 5 Dec 1821. There's also an MI for James Millar died 1855, born about 1819 from the age given. No bap. or marriage for John/Mary, but there is a Mary Spark bap. 4 Jan 1778, dau. of James (no indication of mother). I wrote a short history of the village which can be found in the Whitsome section in the Berwickshire bit of Genuki. Lesley Robertson

Hi, I am looking for descendants and ancestors of the following people from the village of Leitholm, parish of Eccles in Berwickshire. Barbara MITCHEL,baptised in 1815 is my gr.gr.grandmother. I look forward to hearing from anyone with an interest in the following persons. Also, many thanks to Creann P. for sending along the information and helping me with my search. All the best. Sincerely, Ron Stallard, Canada OPR Index baptisms: MITCHEL Mary - Alexr/Ann Swan U C 17 Feb 1801 Eccles C117372 MITCHEL Elizabeth - Alexr/Ann SWAN U C 22 Dec 1802 Eccles C117312 MITCHEL John - Alexr/Ann SWAN M C 11 Jul 1805 Eccles C117372 MITCHELL Alexr - Alexr/Ann SWAN M C 18 Oct 1807 Eccles C117372 MITCHELL Ann - Alexr/Ann SWAN F C 29 July 1810 Eccles C117372 MITCHELL Janet - Alexr/Ann SWAN F C 6 Jun 1813 Eccles C117372 MITCHELL Barbara - Alexr/Agnes SWAN F C 5 Nov 1815 Eccles C117372 MITCHEL Crumpton Hardie - Alexr/Ann SWAN 28 Jun 1818 Eccles C117372 OPR Burials: 1823 July 3 Alexander MITCHEL Leitholm 52. 1823 Sep 23 Elizabeth HARDIE wife of John MITCHEL Leitholm 76. 1843 24 Jan Agnes SWAN Leitholm 62, Relict of Alexr MITCHELL Barbara MITCHEL married James SLIMIN of Burntisland, Fife. They lived in Berwick.

Hi I'm new to this list. Thought I might post some names I am researching. HISLOP ROBERTSON TOD ROBB WATSON HODGE Pam

Hello Elizabeth, On Thursday, July 06, 2000 you enquired: > New to list..trying to locate info on my grandfather, > John MILLAR, c. 1/22/1853 in Duns <snip> In searching through the Duns parish registers 1825-1855, I found a few MILLER/MILLAR entries that you might be interested in. Your John is entered in the registers, and it seems you will need the Whitsome parish registers for his father's details. Hope the rest of the entries are useful for you. Best regards, Steve Karner (sugarglider@cox-internet.com in Texas, USA) In BEW I like BLACKADDER, CAMPBELL, COSSAR (& a few more) - it's in the blood! Thos. MILLAR, lawful son of James MILLAR, Butler Manderston, and Margaret ROBERTSON was born 1st April and baptized 8th May 1829. Witnesses John Aithison <sic>, Ralph Stirling James Steele Millar BERTRAM natural son of James Millar BERTRAM and Isabel STEELE was born at Dunse on the 5 day of April 1828 and baptized on 7 June 1832. Isabel Steele BERTRAM natural daughter of James Millar BERTRAM and Isabel STEELE was born at Dunse on the 5 day of April 1828 and baptized on 7 June 1832 in presence of the Kirk Session of Dunse. James MILLER, lawful son of James MILLER, Butler Manderston and Margaret ROBERTSON was born at Manderston the 11th of August 1831 and baptized the 5th of September 1831. James Galbraith MILLAR, lawful son of James MILLAR, Teacher in Dunse, and Mary GALBRAITH was born at Dunse the 17th of February 1849 and baptized the 23rd March 1849. Fethers birth recorded at <blank> John MILLER, lawful son of James MILLER, Teacher Dunse, & Mary GALBRAITH was born at Dunse the 10th December 1852 & baptized 22nd January 1853. Fathers birth recorded at Whitsome. Thomas MILLER son of Peter MILLER, labourer Dunse, and Sarah BROWN his wife was born at Dunse the 18th October 1823 & baptized 12th November 1823. Father born at Quinwood, par. of Abbey St Bathans William MILLER lawful son of Peter MILLER, labourer Dunse, and Sarah BROWN his wife was born at Dunse the 2nd November 1825 & baptized 28th November 1825. Father born parish of Abbey St Bathans James MILLER lawful son of Peter MILLER, labourer, and Sarah BROWN his wife was born at Axendean the 4th September 1829 & baptized 22nd September. Father born in Abbey St Bathans par. Peter MILLER lawful son of Peter MILLER, labourer, and Sarah BROWN his wife was born at Axendean the 14th September 1832 & baptized 7th October 1832. Father born in Abbey St Bathans parish Sophia MILLER lawful daughter of Peter MILLER, labourer Dunse, and Sarah BROWN his wife was born at Axendean the 17th August 1836 & baptized 3rd September 1836. Father born in par. of Abbey Jessie MILLER lawful son of Peter MILLER, labourer, and Sarah BROWN his wife was born at Axendean the 11th December 1841 & baptized 3rd January 1842. Father born parish of Abbey St Bathans Margaret Sharp MILLER, natural daughter of Allan MILLER, labourer Angelstraw Greenlaw, & Helen CRAIG was born at Dunse the 7 January 1847 & baptized 18 April 1857.

Hi Elizabeth, The following appears to be your John MILLER, (as spelt in the 1881 census) and living with a GALBRAITH cousin. Dwelling: Myrtle Ave Benhaven Census Place: Kirkintilloch, Dumbarton, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203550 GRO Ref Volume 498 EnumDist 13 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John MILLER U 28 M Dunse, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Banker Janet W. GALBRAITH U 43 F Glasgow Barony, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Cousin Occ: Annuitant The following could be your Elizabeth D. WALKER visiting in Edinburgh, place of birth Broughty Ferry is now a suburb of Dundee. Dwelling: 23 Melville St Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0223991 GRO Ref Volume 685-1 EnumDist 51 Page 12 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Rebecca PENNYCOOK W 43 F Hopekirk, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Dividends Etc Agnes E. PENNYCOOK U 20 F Hopekirk, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Dividends Etc Margaret ELLIOT U 30 F Hopekirk, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Dividends Etc Elizabeth D. WALKER U 25 F Broughty Ferry, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Interests Etc Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabet Molavi To: millarlanarkscotland@familysearch.org Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: John Millar Hello List: New to list..trying to locate info on my grandfather, John MILLAR, c. 1/22/1853 in Duns and grandmother, Elizabeth DURWARD WALKER MILLAR, b. 8/24/1855 in Dundee. John MILLAR died in Capetown, So. Africa abt 1897 & Elizabeth died in SCT ?? Their only child was my father, Ian Arthur Horace Millar, b. 8/19/1891 in Dallas, TX while my grandparents were in US on business for my grandfather's employer, a bank in Scotland. GGrandparents were James MILLAR/Mary GALBREATH and David WALKER/Marion MITCHELL FARQUHARSON. Sound familiar anyone?? I was named for my grandmother, and sadly I know nothing about her. Can anyone assist me? Thanks much! Elizabeth Millar Molavi - Wilmington, NC USA emolavi@ec.rr.com

Very many thanks to everybody who helped me re the above. It seems there are 2 streams of that name - one that rises in Alemoor Loch in Roberton and another which is a tributary of the River Eye in Berwickshire. The first is the one I was looking for and I am still interested to know: 1. Whether there is any online information on it? 2. Whether there are any books or papers published on it and it's inhabitants in the 18th and early 19th centuries? Peter Stone stone@futurest.co.za SOUTH AFRICA

Hi Peter, The Ale Water is a tributary of the Eye, it rises on Coldingham Moor in Berwickshire and enters the Eye about a mile inland from Eyemouth. The only parish it flows through would be Coldingham passing between Coldingham village and the hamlet of Cairncross. A large scale map of the area can be found at www.old-maps.co.uk and look for Berwickshire then Coldingham. No doubt someone on this list can advise regarding parish registers etc for the area. Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@bigfoot.com HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

I am currently researching my wife's grandfather and his origins in Greenlaw. His name was William Rennie Wood Feeney. We thought that his mother (Agnes Aitchison Wood) and father (Daniel Feeney) married in 1892 in Duns, which they did. William however was born in 1887 in Greenlaw, and was registered as illegitimate, under the name William Rennie Wood. Does anyone know whether this name would signify that his father was William Rennie. A lad of the same age as Agnes appears in the 1881 Census in Greenlaw, the son of the station master. Therefore Daniel would have married a single mother and presumably 'adopted' William. Would thee have been any paternity suits at that time in this area, and if so where would the records be? Also would love to hear from anyone with interests in these names in this area of Berwickshire. Thanks Tim Wilcock Farnham, Surrey,England

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