Does anyone know if there was a farm called Newbigging in East Lothian or Berwickshire around 1818. I received these and wondered why they were christened in Innerwick (that is the parish register these came from) if they lived in one of the Newbigging's in Angus, Aberdeen or West Lothian? Runciman In church 25th Oct 1818 John born 7inst - son to Thomas Runciman hind (sp) in Newbigging and Mary Ridpath his wife. Runciman At Thurstonmains codem die Jean and Mary born 22 April twin daughters to Thomas Runciman hind (sp) in Newbigging and Mary Redpath his wife - witnesses John Watt, William Turner and several others. Also I wondered how I might check who lived there (on the farm if there was one) as the census was not taken before 1831 or 1841? I wondered if SKS would be able to help me with this problem, please, please, please? And- I know I'm pushing my luck but perhaps look it up for me??? Thank you so much yet again. Best of luck everybody. Alethea

I'm loooking for any OLIVERS who were living in Castleton, Roxburghshire in the early 1800s, particularly a JAMES b 1805 and his wife JEANNETTEb 1810; another JAMES b1811 and his wife MABEL; WALTER b 1802 and his wife CHRISTINA. These people all immigrated to Andes, NY before 1850. Thank you, Nancy Gray

Hello Trish, Below is from gravestone in Sprouston Churchyard. 73. Erected by WILLIAM ROBERTSON merchant London in memory of his father ROBERT ROBERTSON schoolmaster in Sprouston who died 22.2.1833 aged 82 years and his mother MARY HOOD who died 24.4.1809 aged 55 years also of their children DAVID inspector of taxes who died at Kelso 13.2.1860 aged 72 years CATHARINE wife of JOHN LOCKIE tenant in Milkington who died 7.11.1832 aged 39 years JANET who died at Wooler 6.8.1863 aged 81 years also MARY ROBERTSON -Mrs. McLEAN who died 23.8.1869 aged 93 years also WILLIAM ROBERTSON who died in London 23.4.1870 aged 81 years. Pleasance is more likely to be the name of a farm or home. I looked on a current map and on an old Ordinance Survey map but could find nothing. I hope the above gravestone inscription is of help. Joe Boyd Williams Katy, Texas -----Original Message----- From: Trish LEWIS <trishlewis@sprint.ca> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:16 PM Subject: BEW:LOCKIE/ROBERTSON/SCOTT >Hi Everyone > >I have a marriage record of my 4th great grandparents and I was wondering if >someone may have heard of the place name (if I read it right). > >It says John LOCKIE, Nursaryman, Kelso, and Catherine ROBERTSON daughter of >Robert ROBERTSON Schoolmaster of Sprouston, residing "foot of the Pleasance >with M. SCOTT" gave of ??? Witnesses Thomas Gray BAKER Kelso "Good >Brother???" and John COLQUHOUN, "Leod" of the Pleasance". (Record of the >Parish of St. Cuthbert's Edinburgh) > >Sorry for the "" and ?? but I can't make it out on the document. Where is >this "Pleasance" and did I read the words after the witnesses correctly? >I'm trying to figure out if this M. SCOTT and the Witnesses could be John & >Catherine's relations. > >Thank you for you help. > >Trish LEWIS >Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia >Canada > > >

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I was sent the following recently: This is what I got from the Parish Church for Innerwick PR 1614-1877 Film No 1067850: Thos. Runciman and Mary Ridpath Innerwick 5 Dec 1812 booked names in order to marriage. Thomas Runciman in the parish of Sphott and Mary Ridpath in this parish. Thomas Runciman (his father) for the bridegroom and John Ridpath - her brother- for the bride cautioners-proclaimed and married. Runciman In church 25th Oct 1818 John born 7inst - son to Thomas Runciman hind (sp) in Newbigging and Mary Ridpath his wife. Runciman At Thurstonmains codem die Jean and Mary born 22 April twin daughters to Thomas Runciman hind (sp) in Newbigging and Mary Redpath his wife - witnesses John Watt, William Turner and several others. Would anyone know what hind (sp) in Newbiggin means, 7inst, and codem die? Thanks for your help. Alethea

Hi Althea; > I was sent the following recently: > This is what I got from the Parish Church for Innerwick PR 1614-1877 Film No > 1067850: > > Runciman > At Thurstonmains codem die > Jean and Mary born 22 April twin daughters to Thomas Runciman hind (sp) in > Newbigging and Mary Redpath his wife - witnesses John Watt, William Turner > and several others. If it's possible that you have a transcription error, the Latin phrase "eodem die" can be translated to english as "on the same day" I hope this helps. Good luck with the others, and with the RUNCIMAN work. Jim Richardson

Can anyone tell me if the 1871 census is available on disk or anyplace online. I am trying to find a William Elliot (Elliot) Pringle for that year in either Roxburgh or Dumfries. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Peggy

Hi Everyone I have a marriage record of my 4th great grandparents and I was wondering if someone may have heard of the place name (if I read it right). It says John LOCKIE, Nursaryman, Kelso, and Catherine ROBERTSON daughter of Robert ROBERTSON Schoolmaster of Sprouston, residing "foot of the Pleasance with M. SCOTT" gave of ??? Witnesses Thomas Gray BAKER Kelso "Good Brother???" and John COLQUHOUN, "Leod" of the Pleasance". (Record of the Parish of St. Cuthbert's Edinburgh) Sorry for the "" and ?? but I can't make it out on the document. Where is this "Pleasance" and did I read the words after the witnesses correctly? I'm trying to figure out if this M. SCOTT and the Witnesses could be John & Catherine's relations. Thank you for you help. Trish LEWIS Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia Canada

Hi, I hope you don't mind me forwarding this but I've just received it over one of the Yorkshire sites and thought it may of interest to some of you in your research. Rob Hi everyone, I have the following 2 mailing lists: - UK-NORTHEAST which was set up in May 2000 and covers DURHAM, NORTHUMBERLAND & YORKSHIRE counties and UK-NORTHWEST which is just a new list and covers the areas of CUMBERLAND, LANCASHIRE & WESTMORLAND counties. Both lists are QUITE FRIENDLY and open to both beginners and experienced researchers. Details of how to subscribe are list below but please feel free to contact me if you have any problems or queries. Best Wishes Steve List Administrator UK-NORTHEAST & NORTHWEST MAILING LIST WEB SITE ADDRESS: - http://uk-northeast.com In the body include only one word: subscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) FOR UK-NORTHEAST MAILING LIST (DURHAM, NORTHUMBERLAND & YORKSHIRE) UK-NORTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) or UK-NORTHEAST-D-request@rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple messages) FOR UK-NORTHWEST MAILING LIST (CUMBERLAND, LANCASHIRE & WESTMORLAND) UK-NORTHWEST-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) or UK-NORTHWEST-D-request@rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple messages)

Hello list, Could sks please do look ups for me for both the 1871 &1891 above census in Selkirk. Looking for Thomas Ireland (Gamekeeper by Trade) &his wife Joan (Ross) Ireland, they are both mentioned in the 1881 Census for Selkirk and lived at "Lochslacks" on the Haining Estate. Thank you in advance. David Ireland, Saskatchewan, Canada.

G'day Cobbers, Am researching the following family names of HALLIBURTON, OLIVER, WARK & WAUGH, details as below: Descendants of Ann WARK & James OLIVER 1. James OLIVER occupation Sawyer, m. Ann WARK. Children: + 2. i Thomas OLIVER b. circa 1818. Second Generation 2. Thomas OLIVER (1.James1) b. circa 1818, occupation Innkeeper, m. 12 Oct 1838, in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, Isabella WAUGH, b. circa 1809, (daughter of Michael WAUGH and Janet HALLIBURTON) d. 09 May 1869, High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT. Thomas died 23 Mar 1867, High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT. Children: 3. i Agnes OLIVER b. circa 1854, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, occupation Dom Servant/Tweed Birler, and Unknown, and Hugh McLEAVY, occupation Wool Spinner, m. 18 May 1885, in Townsville, Qld, Australia, Charles LEFEVRE, b. circa 1843, Paris, France, (son of Alphous LEFEVRE and Augusta Jean LOURALE) occupation Engineer. Tweed Birler (Wool) Marriage Certificate witnessed by a Peter OLIVER (is he a son or brother). 4. ii Michael OLIVER. Anybody who can assist me with these names? Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 CFHS 8731 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, Australia BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - Australia GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, Scotland INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Ireland>Qld, Australia McFADDEN - Ireland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, Australia McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Roxburgh, Scotland REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. RUDD - Qld, Australia SMITH - Scotland SPENCER - Scotland SPRENGER - Qld, Australia WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Scotland>New Zealand email to: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Australian Genealogy: http://opax.swin.edu.au/andrew/aust_genealogy.html

Hi everyone, I bought mine through the local L.S.D. they gave the address and I sent to the Australian head office, I would presume there is one in every country. They were a very good price also. Ruth Edwards Australia

The Distribution Centre Family History CDs 399 Garretts Green Lane Birmingham B33 0UH £29.95 inc p+p Faxed orders to 08 700 10 20 52 Cheers, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: alethea watson <alethea.watson@btinternet.com> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:14 PM Subject: Help, please re buying 1881 census > Hello, could someone please tell me a place in the UK where I can buy the 1881 census on CD for the whole of the British Isles? > I have looked on the LDS website but buying from the USA is going to work out too expensive in the long run. > > Thanks for your help. > > Alethea > >

Hello, could someone please tell me a place in the UK where I can buy the 1881 census on CD for the whole of the British Isles? I have looked on the LDS website but buying from the USA is going to work out too expensive in the long run. Thanks for your help. Alethea

Can anyone help with information about the following: Doorpool Cottage, Southdean, ROX In 1881 my William and Christina (nee POW) GARDNER lived there according to the census. William was an agricultural labourer. Regards, Judy HALL.

Reposting my interests: I am researching ELLIOT. My ggrandmother, Christina POW, married William ELLIOT on 30 Nov 1866 at Teviothead Smithy, ROX. William was a ploughman, born, I think, in Teviothead in 1830. His children were *Elisabeth Pow b Kirktown *Helen Dickson b. Minto mar John Waldie GARDNER *Gavin Pow *Mary *James Pow b Edgerston Regards, Judy HALL

Reposting my interests: William GARDNER mar Betsy WALDIE 1861 Ploughland, Crailing, ROX, SCT Children: *Elisabeth b 1862 Crailing ROX *Mary b 1864 Edgerston ROX *Ellen b 1866 Edgerston, ROX *William b 1869 Eckford, ROX mar Anne ELLIOT (??) *John b 1871 Crailing ROX mar Helen Dickson ELLIOT *Jane b 1874 Crailing ROX *Thomas b abt 1878 Crailing ROX, SCT *Alexander (Sandy) b abt 1880 mar Ann ELLIOT John and Helen Gardner lived at Hassendean Bank and John was Farm Steward at Cleughhead, Earl of Minto's Home Farm. They emigrated to Australia in 1913 and settled in the Laidley/Mulgowie area in SE QLD, AUS Regards, Judy HALL

Hi, Some time ago,I had a very generous response to my query about Bowhill and in which parish I could expect to find 1851-1881 census records. I have lately viewed the films for Yarrow/Selkirk ( both on the same film each time) and the Bowhill estate is recorded there within the Selkirk parish. 1861 0103911 1871 0104099 I have a printout of the 1851 estate census and am happy to look up any names if you contact me off-list. Unfortunately I dont have a scanner. Regards Jennifer Familton

Hello Judy, If you will follow the URL below it will take you to a map. Southdean is in the bottom right corner jus off the page. You will see Doorpool and Doorpool Hill. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=361500&Y=610500&zoom=3 Joe Boyd Williams Katy, Texas -----Original Message----- From: Judy Hall <judo@gil.com.au> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, August 17, 2000 6:32 AM Subject: Doorpool Cottage, Southdean, ROX >Can anyone help with information about the following: >Doorpool Cottage, Southdean, ROX >In 1881 my William and Christina (nee POW) GARDNER lived there according to >the census. William was an agricultural labourer. >Regards, >Judy HALL. > > > >

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