please stop sending info to this address, thanks ---------- >From: BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com >To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: BORDER-D Digest V00 #265 >Date: Mon, Sep 18, 2000, 2:00 AM > >Content-Type: text/plain > >BORDER-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 265 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Looking for ROOKS, MURRAY and ["Vivienne Simmons" <vivienne.simmo] > #2 RENTON / DICKSON [CBain39544@aol.com] > #3 BAIN/BONE from GREENLAW [CBain39544@aol.com] > #4 Ayton Cemetery ["Shirley Dumma" <sdumma@dccnet.com] > #5 Ayton Cemetery [Robert Herriot <rherriot@scu.edu.a] > #6 Middlemas [MacLeod <rie@tallships.ca>] > #7 Re: Ayton Cemetery [Lesley Robertson <l.a.robertson@st] > #8 Genealogy Sites ["Max & Doreen Layfield" <dormax@dn] > #9 RE: Bookshops ["Judy Hopkins" <judy_h@iprimus.com] > #10 Unidentified subject! ["Geoff Kelly" <geoffkelly@earthlin] > #11 Re: Ayton Cemetery ["Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com] > #12 Re: Ayton Cemetery ["Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from BORDER-D, send a message to > > BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:58:07 -0700 >From: "Vivienne Simmons" <vivienne.simmons@cimtegration.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <003a01c020c0$13331b60$c208f6c7@mol.gov.on.ca> >Subject: Re: Looking for ROOKS, MURRAY and STEWART >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Thanks, Lesley. > >I will take your advice, but I'm hoping that someone will be able to find >them in the 1851 census index. I've been looking all over the place for >these people for so long that it would be wonderful to KNOW that they're to >be found in a particular census before I actually order the film. > >By the way, I forgot to say, in my earlier e-mail, that the name, ROOKS >often turns up as ROOK. Also, I believe that any ROOK or ROOKS found will >be related to William ROOKS. I know that he had a cousin, also named >William, who may have been in the same area. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@stm.tudelft.nl> >To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:04 AM >Subject: Re: Looking for ROOKS, MURRAY and STEWART > > >> > >> > I'm hoping very much that someone will be willing and able to discover >> these people in 1851. >> > >> If you have an LDS family history centre near you, they'll be able to get >> the census films for you and you can have the fun of searching yourself. >> It'll be a bit of a slog as the 1851 isn't generally indexed (apart from >the >> famous 2% sample) but all sorts of useful info can be gained from looking >at >> the neighbours (I found the next generation back on one line because they >> were living next door to the folk I was looking for!). >> Have fun, >> Lesley Robertson >> >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:18:24 EDT >From: CBain39544@aol.com >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <80.c1cc2b.26f62cb0@aol.com> >Subject: RENTON / DICKSON >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Would love to fill in some holes in my charts. Any connections out there? >Thanks in advance, Chris Bain, Westwood, MA USA > >1. WILLIAM RENTON b. 1819 Edinburgh, Dalkeith, Scotland, d. Bef. 1896 >Scotland, m. 31 May 1846 St. Boswells, Roxburghshire, Scotland Janet Bain, b. >1825 Greenlaw, Scotland, d. 4 Oct 1896 Torwoodlee, Stow, Scotland, dau. of >William Bone/Bain and Elizabeth Rae. > >2. i. Robert Renton, b. 28 Sep 1846, St. Boswells, Roxburghshire, Scotland; >d. 9 Dec 1918, Dawson, South Australia. > ii. William B. Renton, b. 1850, Galashiels, Scotland. > iii. John Renton, b. 1851, St. Boswells, Roxburgh, Scotland. > iv. Peter Renton, b. 1851, St. Boswells, Roxburgh, Scotland. > v. Elizabeth Renton, b. 1853, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > vi. Thomas Renton, b. Bef. 17 Apr 1856, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > vii. Janet Renton, b. Bef. 15 Sep 1858, Ledgerwood, Berwickshire, >Scotland; m. John Purves, 31 Dec 1874, Swinton and Simpron, Berwickshire, >Scotland. > viii. George Renton, b. Bef. 30 Jan 1861, Lauder, Berwickshire, >Scotland. >3. ix. Margaret Renton, b. Bef. 5 Oct 1863, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > x. Alexander Renton, b. Bef. 17 Mar 1865, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > >2nd generation > >3. MARGARET RENTON (WILLIAM1) b. Bef. 5 Oct 1863 in Lauder, Berwickshire, >Scotland, m. George Dickson 19 Mar 1872 in Swinton and Simpron, Berwickshire, >Scotland. > > I. WILLIAM DICKSON, b. 3 Apr 1873, Swinton And Simpron, Berwick, >Scotland. > ii. John Dickson, b. 25 Jul 1874, Swinton And Simpron, Berwick, Scotland > >______________________________ >X-Message: #3 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:31:10 EDT >From: CBain39544@aol.com >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c5.947dadb.26f62fae@aol.com> >Subject: BAIN/BONE from GREENLAW >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Trying to find siblings of William2 or any information William1 and Janet >Turnbull. I suspect that William1 came from Ayr and Janet Turnbull was from >Greenlaw, but have no proof. I do know the following; William3 went to New >Zealand, Janet4 went to Australia, and the family Alexander5 came to the USA >after his death (this is my line). I have lots of info on these three. >Thanks in advance, Chris Bain, Westwood, MA USA > >1. WILLIAM BONE, m. 24 Jun 1791 Greenlaw, Berwick Scotland, JANET TURNBULL. > >2. i. WILLIAM BONE/BAIN, b. 1796, d. 6 Mar 1856. > >Generation No. 2 > >2. WILLIAM BONE/BAIN (William1), b. 1796 Greenlaw, Berwick Scotland, d. 6 >Mar 1856 Blackburn farm, Lauder, Scotland, m. 10 Nov 1815 Greenlaw, Berwick >Scotland, ELIZABETH RAE, b. 1790 Coldstream/Greenlaw Scotland, d. 25 Jan >1855 at Blackburn farm, Lauder, Scotland, dau. of ALEXANDER RAE and MARGARET. > > i. WILLIAM BAIN, b. 1817, d. 1817. >3. ii. WILLIAM BAIN, b. 1820, d. 3 July 1892 > iii. MARGARET BAIN, b. 1823. > iv. JANET BAIN, b. 1824, d. 1824. >4. v. JANET BAIN, b. 1825, d. 4 Oct 1896. >5. vi. ALEXANDER BAIN, b. 1827, d. 28 Dec 1860. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #4 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:52:02 -0700 >From: "Shirley Dumma" <sdumma@dccnet.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <002001c020cf$fbf488c0$2a9e05d1@pavilion> >Subject: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Donna Sloboda: >Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >appreciate any info that you can give me. >I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >see you there. >Shirley Dumma >Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >sdumma@dccnet.com > >______________________________ >X-Message: #5 >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:25:57 +1000 >From: Robert Herriot <rherriot@scu.edu.au> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000918062557.006e37b0@pophost.scu.edu.au> >Subject: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Dear Donna, >I have noticed Shirley Dumma's request for information about the headstones >in Ayton cemetery. > >A further request if you would be good enough. My family are known to have >been tenents of Aytonlaw in the late 1700s and may well have sporned (if >that is the right word) the HERRIOT/HERIOT in Coldingham. > >I have a stonewall with a James HERRIOT tenent of Aytonlaw who died about >1832. > >Also, if anybody can provide HERRIOT, HERIOT or other variations, that >would be greatly appreciated. There are so many loose ends. > >Cheers form Rob, in Lismore, Australia >(only 800km north of the Olympics) > > >Donna Sloboda: >Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >appreciate any info that you can give me. >I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >see you there. >Shirley Dumma >Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >sdumma@dccnet.com > > >==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #6 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:53:49 -0300 >From: MacLeod <rie@tallships.ca> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000917175349.007cb190@tallships.ca> >Subject: Middlemas >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Does anyone have information on the following? > >George Middlemas (born Feb. 24, 1787), Stitchel, Roxburgh, Scotland, >(Father: George Middlemas and Isobel Brotherson ....who were married July >12, 1782, in Stitchel, Roxburgh.)? Is Stitchel near Kelso? Anyone with >connections of any sort? George , the son , and his brothers, Peter and >David, emigrated to Nova Scotia, Canada, in 1815. They were part of the >group of founding settlers to start a small rural community in the heart >of Nova Scotia with a true scottish name, Caledonia! > > I think that there must have been sisters left behind in Scotland. I >live in George Middlemas' original ancestral home in Nova Scotia. I am >very interested in researching this family in Scotland but don't know how >to go about this. I am keen but not experienced. Looking for direction. >Thanks. >Marie MacLeod, Nova Scotia, Canada > >______________________________ >X-Message: #7 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:52:53 +0200 >From: Lesley Robertson <l.a.robertson@stm.tudelft.nl> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-id: <000901c020e9$4095c5c0$47505e91@client> >Subject: Re: Ayton Cemetery >Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >> >> Also, if anybody can provide HERRIOT, HERIOT or other variations, that >> would be greatly appreciated. There are so many loose ends. >> >There are a few Herriots - plus a farm of that name - in Whitsome, >Berwickshire. Want them? Let me know. >Lesley Robertson > >______________________________ >X-Message: #8 >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:02:55 +1000 >From: "Max & Doreen Layfield" <dormax@dnet.aunz.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <009d01c020f3$0a572940$3f132ecb@computer> >Subject: Genealogy Sites >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Here is a great site for Genealogy > >with links to many places > >http://www.attgendept.nsw.gov.au/bdm/links.html > >Max In Oz. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #9 >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:09:20 +1000 >From: "Judy Hopkins" <judy_h@iprimus.com.au> >To: "Bruce Glass" <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz>, <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <NCBBKPOAAKPGNGLGLJCFEEOOCDAA.judy_h@iprimus.com.au> >Subject: RE: Bookshops >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Bruce, >We have just arrived home from two months in the UK. I saw the book called >the Border Reivers in a second hand bookshop in Wooler, but don't know the >name of the shop. The man wasn't at all helpful when I asked about a family >history section I don't think he liked his job at all. >I've had good success finding second hand books using www.abebooks.com >Best wishes, >Judy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bruce Glass [mailto:Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz] >Sent: Sunday, 17 September 2000 12:52 PM >To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com; GRAHAM-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: Bookshops > > >Hi Listers, does anyone know of any book-shops in the Carlisle area of >Cumbria, England that specialises in re-prints of old books on genealogy >and history of Border families. > >I am trying to obtain, in particular, "Condition of the Border at the >Union" by John Graham. > >Scotpress in America have it but I can't get any response from them (I >have tried four E-Mails over two months). > >Other books that Scotpress have that I could be interested in are > The Border Clans > The Border Reivers > Brief History of the Marches > >I am unsure of the authors of thesebut they are all re-prints of old >books. > >Also has anyone had any involvrement with The Cumberland and >Westmoreland Antiquarian and Archaelogical Society (CWAAS). I have been >E-Mailing them for several months and have written to their secretary >but without any reponse. I was going to become a member of their society >as it would appear they have a good supply of historical material on >border families. > >It seems that no one wishes to have dealings with antipodean >researchers. > >Best regards from New Zealand, Bruce Glass > >______________________________ > >______________________________ >X-Message: #10 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:42:45 -0700 >From: "Geoff Kelly" <geoffkelly@earthlink.net> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <412000911844245290@earthlink.net> >Subject: >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Hello: > >I suspect a previous message might not have made it so I'm giving this >another go. I'm seeking information on Juliet Francis (spelling believed to >be correct) Bell, born Jefferson County, Kentucky, around 1890. Family >believed to have been relocated from Border area to Ireland and thence to >U.S.A., possibly debarking in North Carolina. > >Thank you > > >Geoff Kelly >geoffkelly@earthlink.net > >______________________________ >X-Message: #11 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:02:48 -0700 >From: "Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000a01c0212d$b0e645e0$6c6b7318@abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com> >Subject: Re: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Sorry Shirley > >There are no Dumma's listed in Ayton's MIs. > >Good luck! > >Donna >----- Original Message ----- >From: Shirley Dumma <sdumma@dccnet.com> >To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:52 AM >Subject: Ayton Cemetery > > >> Donna Sloboda: >> Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >appreciate any info that you can give me. >> I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >see you there. >> Shirley Dumma >> Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >> sdumma@dccnet.com >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> > >______________________________ >X-Message: #12 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:18:19 -0700 >From: "Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <001901c0212f$dbbdc340$6c6b7318@abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com> >Subject: Re: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Robert > >You're in luck. The two gravestones read: > >In memory of Catherine Herriot Bowhill only daughter of James Bowhill Ayton >and Eliza Home Herriot his wife born 17.2.1861 died 2.8.1861. Alexander >Thomson Herriot Bowhill their 2nd son born 18.4.1864 died 1.11.1875. The >above James Bowhill Banker Ayton born 6.11.1829 died 22.12.1890. The above >Eliza Home Herriot his widow born 16.1.1834 died 17.1.1911. Thomas Bowhill >their eldest son born 15.5.1859 died 27.8.1925 buried in Durban. James >William Bowhill their youngest son born 23.8.1868 died 19.1.1931 buried in >Grange Cemetary Edinburgh. Dr. Janet Adeline Agnes Sang died 16.3.1965. >Alexander Herriot Bowhill 1893-1984 elder son of James William Bowhill. Ian >Home Bowhill 1903-1975 younger son of James William Bowhill. > >In memory of Arthur Shed Writer Silverknowe Ayton who died 2.6.1972 aged 92 >years also his wife Jane Herriot Doughty who died 12.12.1972 aged 91 years. > >I hope some of this is helpful. > >Sincerely > >Donna Lindores Sloboda >BC, Canada >----- Original Message ----- >From: Robert Herriot <rherriot@scu.edu.au> >To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:25 PM >Subject: Ayton Cemetery > > >> Dear Donna, >> I have noticed Shirley Dumma's request for information about the >headstones >> in Ayton cemetery. >> >> A further request if you would be good enough. My family are known to >have >> been tenents of Aytonlaw in the late 1700s and may well have sporned (if >> that is the right word) the HERRIOT/HERIOT in Coldingham. >> >> I have a stonewall with a James HERRIOT tenent of Aytonlaw who died about >> 1832. >> >> Also, if anybody can provide HERRIOT, HERIOT or other variations, that >> would be greatly appreciated. There are so many loose ends. >> >> Cheers form Rob, in Lismore, Australia >> (only 800km north of the Olympics) >> >> >> Donna Sloboda: >> Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >> listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >> appreciate any info that you can give me. >> I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >> see you there. >> Shirley Dumma >> Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >> sdumma@dccnet.com >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> >

Hello Betsy, Roxburghshire: 1. Hounam and Linton, 2.Morebattle, 3. Yetholm, 4. Sprouston and Lempitlaw, 5. Eckford, 6. Ednam, 7. Kelso, 8. Oxnam, 9. Roxburgh, 10. Crailing and Nesbit, 11. Makerstoun, 12. Smailholm, 13. Stichill and Hume, 14. Maxton, 15. Edgerston, 16. Bedrule. 17. St.Boswells. Berwickshire: 1. Polwarth, 2. Mertoun, 3. Fogo, 4. Greenlaw, 5. Eccles, 6. Ayton, 7. Gordon, Nenthorn, and Westruther. Ber.# 4,5,6,and 7; Rox# 7,and 17 cost 6 pounds for members, 7 pounds for all others. Plus 70p UK postage or 2.50 pounds postage overseas. All other booklets are 4 pounds members and 5 pounds for all others. 50p for Uk postage and 2.50 pounds for overseas postage. Contact: Miss Jean Sanderson The Cottage, Main Street, Kirk Yetholm Kelso, Roxburghshire TD58PE Joe Boyd Williams Katy, Texas -----Original Message----- From: RONALD EARLEY <RON.EARLEY@PRODIGY.NET> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:02 AM Subject: MI books >Could someone tell me what MI books are available for the Border area >and also pricing and where to send for them?? Or is there a web page with >this info? > >I've looked at the webpage for Border Family History Society on GENUKI- Scotland >but don't see the MI information. I know more are available. I have the one >for Oxnam, but am finding that I need more. > >Thanks for any help in advance. >Betsy Earley >Ohio > > >==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. > >

Could someone tell me what MI books are available for the Border area and also pricing and where to send for them?? Or is there a web page with this info? I've looked at the webpage for Border Family History Society on GENUKI- Scotland but don't see the MI information. I know more are available. I have the one for Oxnam, but am finding that I need more. Thanks for any help in advance. Betsy Earley Ohio

Please remove my name from this list, as I have often asked. Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:00:07 -0700 From: BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: BORDER-D Digest V00 #267 To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com Reply-to: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain BORDER-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 267 Today's Topics: #1 Cumberland & Westmoreland Antiquar [Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.n] #2 Scotpress [Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.n] #3 Re: bookshops [Lesley Robertson <L.A.Robertson@st] #4 LECK / LAKIE Morebattle [lecky1 <lecky1@ntlworld.com>] #5 in the Burnbrae? [Cameron Clark <cclark@connect.com.] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from BORDER-D, send a message to BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:23:46 +1200 From: Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz> To: "CUMBERLAND-D@rootsweb.com" <CUMBERLAND-D@rootsweb.com>, "BORDER-D@rootsweb.com" <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <39C6EA52.DEC4A243@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Cumberland & Westmoreland Antiquarian & Archaelogical Society. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi listers, have any of you had dealings with the "Cumberland & Westmoreland Antiquarian and Archaelogical Society" (CWAAS)? I have been sending E-Mails to their Internet correspondent for several months and can't get a reply. I have written to their secretary by snail mail and he does not reply either. This society appears to have a large repository of historical information which I believe would help me in my "Graham" research. I was going to become a member of the CWAAS but now am a bit wary of their reliability. Any assistance would be appreciated. Best regards from New Zealand, Bruce Glass. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:27:50 +1200 From: Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz> To: "BORDER-D@rootsweb.com" <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <39C6EB46.17EE1A69@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Scotpress Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attention David Hall, Hi David, Re; Scotpress, I am aware of this website and they have several books that I am interested in purchasing but am unable to get a repy from them. I E-Mailed them two months ago for a costing on supply and postage of several books but nothing has come back after three more E-Mails to them. Bruce Glass in New Zealand. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #3 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:07:38 +0000 From: Lesley Robertson <L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <39C73BCF.1148.F4C89@localhost> Subject: Re: bookshops With reference to that bookshop I was raving about at the weekend, here's the contact details: Proprietor: Benny Gillies Address: 33 Victoria Street, Kirkpatrick Durham, Castle Douglas, Dumfries and Galloway, South West Scotland, DG7 3HQ Tel: +44 (0)1556 650412 Email: {HYPERLINK "mailto: bgillies@globalnet.co.uk"}bgillies@globalnet.co.uk Lesley Robertson ******************************************************************** Dr Lesley A. Robertson CBiol FIBiol Kluyver Laboratory for Biotechnology, Delft University of Technology, Julianalaan 67, 2628BC, Delft,The Netherlands tel 31 15 2782421; fax 31 15 2782355; email L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #4 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:27:20 +0100 From: lecky1 <lecky1@ntlworld.com> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <39C769B8.1FDFE196@ntlworld.com> Subject: LECK / LAKIE Morebattle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am researching the name LECK late 1700's -present. I am lead to believe that there was a family of LECK in Morebattle with same christian names in my tree. Is anyone searching the same name, would like to make contact. Thanks YvonneLeck ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #5 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:38:54 +1000 From: Cameron Clark <cclark@connect.com.au> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <39C7EAFE.A1B1E0EC@connect.com.au> Subject: in the Burnbrae? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have been searching through the microfiche of the Bowden Parish records and found the entry for the birth of my G.G.G.G Grandfather. It reads as follows... "Robt. Clerk and Margt. Wilkie his wife in the Burnbrae, had a child born the 10th March 1777, named William." My question is what does it mean 'in the Burnbrae'? Neither of the parents came from Bowden - Robert from Maxton and Margaret from Selkirk - could it be a reference to this? Anyone have any ideas? Kind Regards, Cameron Clark. Melbourne, Australia. -------------------------------- End of BORDER-D Digest V00 Issue #267 *************************************

Where exactly is Dunfermline, Fifeshire, Scotland?

Hi all, I have been searching through the microfiche of the Bowden Parish records and found the entry for the birth of my G.G.G.G Grandfather. It reads as follows... "Robt. Clerk and Margt. Wilkie his wife in the Burnbrae, had a child born the 10th March 1777, named William." My question is what does it mean 'in the Burnbrae'? Neither of the parents came from Bowden - Robert from Maxton and Margaret from Selkirk - could it be a reference to this? Anyone have any ideas? Kind Regards, Cameron Clark. Melbourne, Australia.

I wrote to this list several weeks ago wondering if anyone had heard of Monborlee, where a biography had reported that my g-g-grandmother was from. No one replied, and since I could not find a listing anywhere I let it drop for the time being. I forgot one important fact. Apparently both Margaret and her husband had very heavy Scots accents, heavy enough that the grandchildren often times had trouble understanding them and certainly difficult for Ontarians. Last week I managed to go back on the Stewart line from their first residence in Quebec. Monborlee was Morebattle. Just shows to go ya! Try every name with multiple spellings and pronunciations Meg Landseadel Staton ----- Original Message ----- From: <BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: BORDER-D Digest V00 #267

Attention David Hall, Hi David, Re; Scotpress, I am aware of this website and they have several books that I am interested in purchasing but am unable to get a repy from them. I E-Mailed them two months ago for a costing on supply and postage of several books but nothing has come back after three more E-Mails to them. Bruce Glass in New Zealand.

Hi listers, have any of you had dealings with the "Cumberland & Westmoreland Antiquarian and Archaelogical Society" (CWAAS)? I have been sending E-Mails to their Internet correspondent for several months and can't get a reply. I have written to their secretary by snail mail and he does not reply either. This society appears to have a large repository of historical information which I believe would help me in my "Graham" research. I was going to become a member of the CWAAS but now am a bit wary of their reliability. Any assistance would be appreciated. Best regards from New Zealand, Bruce Glass.

I am researching the name LECK late 1700's -present. I am lead to believe that there was a family of LECK in Morebattle with same christian names in my tree. Is anyone searching the same name, would like to make contact. Thanks YvonneLeck

With reference to that bookshop I was raving about at the weekend, here's the contact details: Proprietor: Benny Gillies Address: 33 Victoria Street, Kirkpatrick Durham, Castle Douglas, Dumfries and Galloway, South West Scotland, DG7 3HQ Tel: +44 (0)1556 650412 Email: {HYPERLINK "mailto: bgillies@globalnet.co.uk"}bgillies@globalnet.co.uk Lesley Robertson ******************************************************************** Dr Lesley A. Robertson CBiol FIBiol Kluyver Laboratory for Biotechnology, Delft University of Technology, Julianalaan 67, 2628BC, Delft,The Netherlands tel 31 15 2782421; fax 31 15 2782355; email L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl.

Does anyone have a copy of Coldingham's Monumental Inscriptions? Donna Lindores Sloboda Canada

Would someone with access to the Index of the 1891 Census do a lookup for me for the following family group and advise me where they were living in 1891. Thanks Jim Arnott Victoria, BC, Canada ********************************* 1881 Census ADAM DICKSON AND MARY [LAIDLAW] Married 03/01/1879, Davington, Eskdalemuir, DUM Dwelling: Kirkstead Farm Ho Census Place: Yarrow, Selkirk, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224038 GRO Ref Volume 779 EnumDist 1 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Adam DICKSON M 28 M Mausley, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Ser Occ: Shepherd Mary DICKSON M 26 F Cairndale, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Ser Occ: Shepherds Wife Mary Helen DICKSON 9 m F Yarrow, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Shepherds Dau

Sorry everyone - can the person who contacted me about WALKERS of Galashiels please do so again. I've been daft and inadvertently deleted your message. Anyone else looking at this name in Galashiels? Thanks, Eileen

Dear Bruce, We have just arrived home from two months in the UK. I saw the book called the Border Reivers in a second hand bookshop in Wooler, but don't know the name of the shop. The man wasn't at all helpful when I asked about a family history section I don't think he liked his job at all. I've had good success finding second hand books using www.abebooks.com Best wishes, Judy -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Glass [mailto:Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, 17 September 2000 12:52 PM To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com; GRAHAM-D@rootsweb.com Subject: Bookshops Hi Listers, does anyone know of any book-shops in the Carlisle area of Cumbria, England that specialises in re-prints of old books on genealogy and history of Border families. I am trying to obtain, in particular, "Condition of the Border at the Union" by John Graham. Scotpress in America have it but I can't get any response from them (I have tried four E-Mails over two months). Other books that Scotpress have that I could be interested in are The Border Clans The Border Reivers Brief History of the Marches I am unsure of the authors of thesebut they are all re-prints of old books. Also has anyone had any involvrement with The Cumberland and Westmoreland Antiquarian and Archaelogical Society (CWAAS). I have been E-Mailing them for several months and have written to their secretary but without any reponse. I was going to become a member of their society as it would appear they have a good supply of historical material on border families. It seems that no one wishes to have dealings with antipodean researchers. Best regards from New Zealand, Bruce Glass ______________________________

A 1992 BFHS Magazine reviews "Borthwick Water" sub-titled "Two Centuries of Life in the Parish of Roberton" by Mrs K W Stewart. Copies were obtainable from her address in Aberdeenshire. Does anyone know if that is a current address, or has the current address, for Mrs Stewart? I have Helm ancestors buried in Borthwick Wa'as cemetery. Thanks Bruce Langholm, Dumfriesshire

Bruce & Lesley: Many of the books you have listed, I have acquired as reprints from the following source. You can preview their book list with descriptions on their web site and other services available. Enjoy, Dave Hall Gold Hill, Oregon http://www.scotpress.com/ Unicorn Limited, Inc. P. O. Box 397, Bruceton Mills, West Virginia, 26525 Phone: 304-379-8803 Fax: 304-379-8923 e-mail: mcleod@scotpress.com Personalized service provided by Dr. W. R. McLeod Vicki B. McLeod Publisher of books on: Bestsellers Calendars for 2001 Celtic Art and Design Celtic Christianity Celtic Studies Children's Books Classic Bagpipe Music Family history Feasts, Holidays and Entertainments Fiction for Summer Reading Food and Drink of Scotland Genealogy and Reference History and Biography Knights Templar and Freemasons Language, Proverbs and Rhymes Military History The Old Religion for the New Age Scotland and North America Scotland's Folklore Heritage Scotland's Music (other than bagpipe, that is!) Tartan, Clothing and Textiles Tranter Novels Viking and Norse Studies Importer of Scottish, Celtic, and Viking books from Britain Search service for used and out-of-print books in our areas of specialization On-site bookseller at major Scottish Highland Games Editing service for manuscript preparation Hard-copy catalogues ($10.00 per year) of imported, domestic, and Scotpress titles -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Glass [mailto:Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 7:52 PM To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com; GRAHAM-D@rootsweb.com Subject: Bookshops Hi Listers, does anyone know of any book-shops in the Carlisle area of Cumbria, England that specialises in re-prints of old books on genealogy and history of Border families. I am trying to obtain, in particular, "Condition of the Border at the Union" by John Graham. Scotpress in America have it but I can't get any response from them (I have tried four E-Mails over two months). Other books that Scotpress have that I could be interested in are The Border Clans The Border Reivers Brief History of the Marches I am unsure of the authors of thesebut they are all re-prints of old books. Also has anyone had any involvrement with The Cumberland and Westmoreland Antiquarian and Archaelogical Society (CWAAS). I have been E-Mailing them for several months and have written to their secretary but without any reponse. I was going to become a member of their society as it would appear they have a good supply of historical material on border families. It seems that no one wishes to have dealings with antipodean researchers. Best regards from New Zealand, Bruce Glass ______________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Robertson [mailto:l.a.robertson@stm.tudelft.nl] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:00 AM To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Bookshops > Hi Listers, does anyone know of any book-shops in the Carlisle area of > Cumbria, England that specialises in re-prints of old books on genealogy > and history of Border families. > > I am trying to obtain, in particular, "Condition of the Border at the > Union" by John Graham. One of the best shops for old scottish books I know of the Benny Gillies in Castle Douglas. In the past, they've even remembered when I've been too late to buy a given book from their catalogue and contacted me when they've had a new copy. Their address, etc, is on my office machine, so I can't give it here, but a web search on "Benny Gillies" and "book" will turn him up. Lesley Robertson ______________________________

> I suspect a previous message might not have made it so I'm giving this > another go. I'm seeking information on Juliet Francis (spelling believed to > be correct) Bell, born Jefferson County, Kentucky, around 1890. Family > believed to have been relocated from Border area to Ireland and thence to > U.S.A., possibly debarking in North Carolina. > The trouble is that Bell is a fairly common name in the Borders, and without knowing the names of the family members who actually lived in the UK, it's hard to know how to help. Her birth certificate seems a good place to start as it'll name her parents. There should be a LDS family history centre near you - they should be able to advise on how to find it. Lesley Robertson ******************************************************************** Dr Lesley A. Robertson CBiol FIBiol Kluyver Laboratory for Biotechnology, Delft University of Technology, Julianalaan 67, 2628BC, Delft,The Netherlands tel 31 15 2782421; fax 31 15 2782355; email L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl.

Hello All, I'll try another brick wall. Helen French m. George Wright 1764 in Sprouston,Rox., they had the following children, all in Sprouston, John b.1765, Ellen b. 1766, Margaret b. 177?, Alexander b. 1780 that I know of. Have a possible parent match in Alexander French and Helen Heimor. The part of the records that show the childrens names is worn away on most of the entries for this couple. But the naming pattern makes them look like a good match. Has anyone any connections to these people? Thanks. Heather Canevaro Canada

Here is a great site for Genealogy with links to many places http://www.attgendept.nsw.gov.au/bdm/links.html Max In Oz.