Hi Vicki, It is very definite that the Rutherfords from the Borders, certainly moved to other parts of the world over the last 300 years. Only my Great Grandfather,George Rutherford arrived here in 1890 and later his younger brother, James Oliver Rutherford arrived 1906/7. It is quite possible that other family members may have emigrated to Australia, Canada, USA or other parts of N.Z. Dianne Dixon, NZ.

> It is very definite that the Rutherfords from the Borders, certainly moved to other parts of the world over the last 300 years. > Only my Great Grandfather,George Rutherford arrived here in 1890 and later his younger brother, James Oliver Rutherford arrived 1906/7. > It is quite possible that other family members may have emigrated to Australia, Canada, USA or other parts of N.Z. > Dianne Dixon, NZ. > This thread prompts me to mention Rutherford's Southern Counties Register and Directory. I don't know how often it was originally published, but the 1866 edition was re-published by the Borders Regional Council in 1990 (isbn 0951675605). In it, the publishers mention that their first edition was 10 years before. Apart from frequent mention of the activities of this Kelso branch of the firm (and pages of wonderful adverts), it gives gazetteer-type info on each town and village in Berwickshire, Selkirkshire and Roxburgh, then adds lovely info such as lists of businesses, registered voters, amenities (number of shops, library, inns, etc). I've never seen new it in the shops, but it does turn up in the second hand book shops. Lesley Robertson

Are any of you folks researching the names Niven,Elder,Scott or Hunter. mid 1700's- 1850 period. Thanks, Hugh Niven

This is sent in response to a message posted by Dorthy Blunden. I am research the surname BLACK also. However I am not quite as far back as you are. I suspect my next link in the chain might put me in the Boarder area but would like to talk with you to compare notes. If you could please e-mail me at hblackjr@cvzoom.net so we can compare notes. Harrold H. BLack Jr Dickerson Run Pa, USA researching: BLACK, ADAMSON, TEESDALE, NEILSON, and STEWART

My grandmother Margaret Ann SMITH was born on 4 November 1859 at Chapel Street Berwick, together with a twin sister Mary Jane. Her mother was Ann nee HINDMARSH and her father was named as William SMITH, Police Officer. In the 1861 Census mother and daughters were still at Chapel Street but the father was elsewhere. The next trace of Margaret was in Walworth, London in 1883 when she married my grandfather William DAVIES, giving her father's name as James SMITH, Police Constable. No marriage certificate has been found. No record of PC William (James) SMITH's service has come to light, though he was not one of the three police constables in Berwick around 1859, nor did he serve in the Metropolitan Police. Nor is anything known of Ann or Mary Jane's whereabouts after 1861, or of Margaret's until her marriage in 1883. If any of these names ring a bell I should be glad to know please or for any ideas for tracing them. Howard Davies

Kathleen Stewart still lives at the same address. Marjorie -----Original Message----- From: BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com <BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> Date: 19 September 2000 03:50 Subject: BORDER-D Digest V00 #266

Thankyou everyone for the help and suggestions posted. I have certainly taken note of these. Hello Russell, New Zealand, It is great to talk to someone else researching Rutherfords from the borders. Yes, we may be related back in Scotland. I am not immediately related to the North Canterbury Rutherfords, or the Rutherfords from Nelson, but perhaps back in the Borders region in the 1800's. First of all I live in Christchurch and my maiden name was Rutherford. I have been researching my family history since 1981. My G.Grandfather, George Rutherford,b 17-11-1863, Edinburgh arrived in Lyttelton 1890. His parents were James Rutherford,b16-7-1837 Galashiels, Selkirk and Susannah Boyd, b c1841 Ayr. These teo were married 16-4-1861. James parents were Robert Rutherford and Betsy Oliver. Their children were :- Robert b c1829, Thomas b c 1830, John b c 1832, George b 5-1-1834 Maxton, James b 16-7-1837 Galashiels, Oliver b5-1-1844 Selkirk and Helen b 7-2-1846 Selkirk. My research is concentrated on Robert and Betsy.It is puzzling that the birth registrations of their last four children are also recorded at Cavers. Did they originally come from Cavers?. The information on the town Rutherford etc came from Gary Harding. Regards, Dianne Dixon, New Zealand.

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Hi! list members, While the subject is on SCOTT families I thought it a good time to repost my interests. I too have 2 lots of SCOTTs; No. 1 Robert SCOTT b.c. 1852 Roxburgh m.c.1875 Yetholm, Roxburgh, Annie Mary GLASS b.c.1851 Fife. Children of Robert and Annie - Agnes Smart SCOTT b.c. 1876, Blackley, Lancs m. Jack ORMROYD Annie Mary Glass SCOTT b.c. 1879 Blackley, Lancs m. ROBINSON Madge SCOTT b.bet. 1879 / 90 m. Tom JOHNSON William SCOTT b. bet. 1879 / 90 m. Fanny Alan Glass SCOTT b. 9 Mar 1890 Salford, Lancs., m.18 Sep 1915 Oldham Florence Annie NIXON b. 21 Sep 1892 ***************************************************************** No. 2 Isabella SCOTT b.c. 1848 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire m. 3 June 1879, Glasgow to William POTTS b.c. 1849. Child of Isabella and William = Mary (Millie) Scott POTTS b.28 Apr 1880 Garliestown, Sorbie parish, Wigtownshire. From the IGI so not proven yet, Isabella is most likely to be the daughter of Archibald SCOTT and Jean CAMPBELL making Isabella 1 of at least 9 children, 3 born in Kilmarnock, the rest in Sorbie. In 1881 Archibald and Jean with 1 child Mary were living in Govan, Lanarkshire which would tie in with the Glasgow marriage of Isabella and William. ************************************************************* I do hope 1 of my families rings a bell with someone and look forward to corresponding with you. Helen in Sussex Researching; WATSON + GORE + RICHARDSON + ROUGHT = Norfolk and Suffolk borders MORLEY + POTTS + SCOTT + GLASS + CARDY = Scottish Borders and Northern England NUNN + L'ESTRANGE + HOLTON + SYKES + CLAYTON = India and UK. ______________________________

Mary Ann HASTIE born Makerston.Her parents were David HASTIE and Elizabeth HALIBURTON. Mary Ann married John HENDERSON not sure when or if--however their first child Elizabeth was born 1839 in Makerston. Johns parents were Alexander HENDERSON and Isabella GRAY.Does anyone know about this family? ANN

Hello everyone, I wondered again if anyone knew of the farms Newbigging and Newbigging Walls located at Lauder, Berwick on the 1881 census? I would just like to know anything I can about them and also how I might find out who was living there between 1800 and 1840? Please can someone help? Thank you and best of luck to everyone. Alethea.

The family below was on the 1881 Census, I wonder if they were there in 1851 or 1871, perhaps with a husband. I am tipping Eliza's maiden name was Hunter. The name has been carried down the generations as a second forename until the present day, I should like to find the significance of it. There was another son George b.1851 who married a girl from Manchester Emily Ellen Smith b. 1849, he had already moved to Lancashire in 1881. If anyone has any information I'd be thrilled to receive it. Best wishes Jenny Craig Australia >1881 Census Place: Lauder, Berwick, Scotland >Eliza HUNTER LINDSAY W 62 F Lauder, Berwick, Scotland >Rel: Head >Occ: Annuitant Etc >Alice LINDSAY U 32 F Lauder, Berwick, Scotland >Rel: Daur >Simon LINDSAY U 26 M Lauder, Berwick, Scotland >Rel: Son >Occ: Managing Clerk >Eliza LINDSAY U 23 F Lauder, Berwick, Scotland >Rel: Daur >Occ: Assistant Teacher

Hallo Rosemary, I have 2 lots of SCOTS/SCOTTS. LOT no 1. I have SUSAN/SUSANNA SCOT born Jan. 1739 in Tranent. Her parents were ROBERT SCOT and MARGARET HENDERSON and they married on 21.05.1736. The parents of MARGARET were PATRICK HENDERSON and AGNESS NEILSON. SUSAN had the following siblings:- JANNET b. 04.05.1737 - Tranent JEAN b. Jan 1740 - Tranent] SUSANNAH b. Jan 1740 - Tranent] - Twins. ALEXANDER b June 1744 LOT no 2. WILLIAM WIGHTMAN b. 15.09.1817 and ISABEL SCOTT were married in Coldingham on 19.05.1815 They had the folowing children:- MARGARET b. 02.03.1816 - Coldingham AGNES b 15.09.1817 - Coldingham JOHN b 04.11.1819 - Chirnside ISABEL b 21.10.1821 - Chirnside JANET b 21.10.1823 - DUNS. Do you see any connection? Best Wishes, From, Michael In NORWAY. -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Rosemary Probert [mailto:rosemary@prob.freeserve.co.uk] Sendt: 14. august 2000 14:12 Til: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Emne: SCOTT, WAIT, BELL Researching SCOTT WAIT and BELL in Berwickshire I am particularly interested in any information about the ancestors of Margaret WAIT and George SCOTT who married sometime about 1780. The marriage isn't in the OPR indexes for Berwickshire and surrounding counties, or the IGI for Northumberland. As far as I can work out they had the following family: MARY SCOTT Baptised: 1781 at Ayton Died: before November 1786? JANET SCOTT Baptised: 1783 at Coldingham *GEORGE SCOTT Baptised: 1785 Coldingham, father was a blacksmith from Westreston Witnesses at baptism: Elisha HALL and Jacob DARLING Married: 1803 Agnes BELL, Mordington (parents unknown) Witnesses: Alexander BELL and Joseph GLENDINING Occupation: Shepherd >> BARBARA SCOTT Baptised 1804, Mordington >> Married DAVID GRAY 1824 Mordington >> Witnesses: Alexander GRAY and David GRAY >> son - JAMES GRAY baptised 1838 Dalkeith, Midlothian (my gt gt grand-father) MARY SCOTT Born: Clappers Baptised: 1786 Mordington Married: 1811 Alexander COW at Cockburnspath and at Mordington 1812 MARGARET SCOTT Born: Clappers Baptised: 1788 Mordington ELIZABETH SCOTT Born: Clappers Baptised: 1790 Mordington ALISON SCOTT Baptised: 1792 Mordington Do any of these names sound familiar to you? Any possible links with these families would be most welcome. Regards, Rosemary, Northumberland, UK

Hello, I am trying this for a third time. I am very new to the use of this web site. To Gary, thankyou for the information on the town Rutherford and the family history. It was just great. I am currently researching for the deaths of my 3x G.Grandfather, Robert Rutherford, b 1805 Maxton and his wife Betsy Oliver, born 1807, Jedburgh. They were still alive in 1874 when their son Oliver got married in Edinburgh to Mary Marston. I am trying to find them on the 1871 census.I have also been unable to trace their marriage which would have been in the late 1820's in Roxbourghshire. Their Grandson, George Rutherford, came out to New Zealand in 1889/90 and settled in the port of Lytellton in the South Island. His father was James Rutherford, 5th child of Robert and Betsy ( Elizabeth ). Has anyone come across this family from Roxburghshire ? Dianne Dixon, New Zealand.

> I am trying to find a map that will show BIRNIERIGG a farm in the southern > uplands near Jedburgh. The family of James ROBERTSON and Christian ANDERSON > lived there with their children Alison (b. 12 March 1783), Helen, Christian, > James, Thomas and Charles. I know a map exists but have been unable to > locate one for sale. It would be great if someone could help. > You can buy copies of the first edition OS maps of Scotland from the National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh http://www.nls.ac.uk/welcome.htm. These are large photocopies and are detailed enough to all individual houses to be seen. The same maps are on line at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ from where they can be downloaded in sections, free. I've found it useful to use the on-line source for most things, but bought the paper version when I wanted a complete overview of a parish. Lesley Robertson ******************************************************************** Dr Lesley A. Robertson CBiol FIBiol Kluyver Laboratory for Biotechnology, Delft University of Technology, Julianalaan 67, 2628BC, Delft,The Netherlands tel 31 15 2782421; fax 31 15 2782355; email L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl.

Hello Gerry: Regular listers may have seen my post about SCOTGAZ before, but for those that my have missed it, the main page is located at : http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/scotland.html I believe Gerry that you are looking for Tillicoultry, in Clackmannanshire which you will find on SCOTGAZ at: http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/centralscotland.imagemap?251,72 And if you click the button for this small town, you will get a good description of it. Hope this helps.... and for those touring N. Americans who are looking for an excellent Factory Outlet shopping experience, the town has a good one, and its a pretty location to boot! Jim Arnott Victoria, BC, Canada GGWKirk@aol.com wrote: > > Does anybody know where TILLECOUTRY is located? I have a feeling that it is > not the correct spelling. All I have to go on is Allison Robenson LAING was > born there about 1834. I'm trying to establish the fact that she is the > daughter of William LAING (born 1811) and his wife Mary FAIRGRIEVE (b. 16 > September 1810 in Melrose) daughter of George FAIRGRIEVE (b. 17 July 1786 in > Galashiels) and Alison ROBERTSON (b. 12 Mar 1783). > > Thanks for any help that might be forthcoming. > > Gerry Kirk > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details.

Does anybody know where TILLECOUTRY is located? I have a feeling that it is not the correct spelling. All I have to go on is Allison Robenson LAING was born there about 1834. I'm trying to establish the fact that she is the daughter of William LAING (born 1811) and his wife Mary FAIRGRIEVE (b. 16 September 1810 in Melrose) daughter of George FAIRGRIEVE (b. 17 July 1786 in Galashiels) and Alison ROBERTSON (b. 12 Mar 1783). Thanks for any help that might be forthcoming. Gerry Kirk

I am trying to find a map that will show BIRNIERIGG a farm in the southern uplands near Jedburgh. The family of James ROBERTSON and Christian ANDERSON lived there with their children Alison (b. 12 March 1783), Helen, Christian, James, Thomas and Charles. I know a map exists but have been unable to locate one for sale. It would be great if someone could help. Sincerely, Gerry Kirk

> Where exactly is Dunfermline, Fifeshire, Scotland? > Find Edinburgh on your map, immediately north of it on the other side of the River Forth is Dunfermline. It's clearly marked. The Kingdom of Fife is the area of land north of Edinburgh and south of Dundee. Lesley Robertson You might find Multimap useful http://uk2.multimap.com/map/places.cgi. ******************************************************************** Dr Lesley A. Robertson CBiol FIBiol Kluyver Laboratory for Biotechnology, Delft University of Technology, Julianalaan 67, 2628BC, Delft,The Netherlands tel 31 15 2782421; fax 31 15 2782355; email L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl.

Tom: Read the message at the bottom of this one and you will see how to unsubscribe. Lucille Richmond ----- Original Message ----- From: TURNER THOMAS H D <T.Turner@greenwich.ac.uk> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: BORDER-D Digest V00 #267 > Please remove my name from this list, as I have often asked. > > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:00:07 -0700 > From: BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: BORDER-D Digest V00 #267 > To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com > Reply-to: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > > - ---------------------------- > > Content-Type: text/plain > > BORDER-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 267 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Cumberland & Westmoreland Antiquar [Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.n] > #2 Scotpress [Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.n] > #3 Re: bookshops [Lesley Robertson <L.A.Robertson@st] > #4 LECK / LAKIE Morebattle [lecky1 <lecky1@ntlworld.com>] > #5 in the Burnbrae? [Cameron Clark <cclark@connect.com.] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from BORDER-D, send a message to > > BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > - ---------------------------- > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:23:46 +1200 > From: Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz> > To: "CUMBERLAND-D@rootsweb.com" <CUMBERLAND-D@rootsweb.com>, > "BORDER-D@rootsweb.com" <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <39C6EA52.DEC4A243@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Cumberland & Westmoreland Antiquarian & Archaelogical Society. > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi listers, have any of you had dealings with the "Cumberland & > Westmoreland Antiquarian and Archaelogical Society" (CWAAS)? > > I have been sending E-Mails to their Internet correspondent for several > months and can't get a reply. I have written to their secretary by snail > mail and he does not reply either. This society appears to have a large > repository of historical information which I believe would help me in my > "Graham" research. I was going to become a member of the CWAAS but now > am a bit wary of their reliability. > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > Best regards from New Zealand, Bruce Glass. > > ______________________________ > - ---------------------------- > > X-Message: #2 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:27:50 +1200 > From: Bruce Glass <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz> > To: "BORDER-D@rootsweb.com" <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <39C6EB46.17EE1A69@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Scotpress > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Attention David Hall, > > Hi David, > Re; Scotpress, I am aware of this website and they have several books > that I am interested in purchasing but am unable to get a repy from > them. I E-Mailed them two months ago for a costing on supply and postage > of several books but nothing has come back after three more E-Mails to > them. > > Bruce Glass in New Zealand. > > ______________________________ > - ---------------------------- > > X-Message: #3 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:07:38 +0000 > From: Lesley Robertson <L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl> > To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > Message-id: <39C73BCF.1148.F4C89@localhost> > Subject: Re: bookshops > > With reference to that bookshop I was raving about at the weekend, > here's the contact details: > Proprietor: Benny Gillies > Address: 33 Victoria Street, Kirkpatrick Durham, Castle Douglas, > Dumfries and Galloway, South West Scotland, DG7 3HQ > Tel: +44 (0)1556 650412 > Email: {HYPERLINK "mailto: bgillies@globalnet.co.uk"}bgillies@globalnet.co.uk > > Lesley Robertson > > ******************************************************************** > Dr Lesley A. Robertson CBiol FIBiol > Kluyver Laboratory for Biotechnology, Delft University of Technology, > Julianalaan 67, 2628BC, Delft,The Netherlands > tel 31 15 2782421; fax 31 15 2782355; email L.A.Robertson@stm.tudelft.nl. > > ______________________________ > - ---------------------------- > > X-Message: #4 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:27:20 +0100 > From: lecky1 <lecky1@ntlworld.com> > To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <39C769B8.1FDFE196@ntlworld.com> > Subject: LECK / LAKIE Morebattle > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I am researching the name LECK late 1700's -present. I am lead to > believe that there was a family of LECK in Morebattle with same > christian names in my tree. Is anyone searching the same name, would > like to make contact. > Thanks > YvonneLeck > > ______________________________ > - ---------------------------- > > X-Message: #5 > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:38:54 +1000 > From: Cameron Clark <cclark@connect.com.au> > To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <39C7EAFE.A1B1E0EC@connect.com.au> > Subject: in the Burnbrae? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi all, > > I have been searching through the microfiche of the Bowden Parish records and > found the entry for the birth of my G.G.G.G Grandfather. It reads as follows... > > "Robt. Clerk and Margt. Wilkie his wife in the Burnbrae, had a child born the > 10th March 1777, named William." > > My question is what does it mean 'in the Burnbrae'? Neither of the parents came > from Bowden - Robert from Maxton and Margaret from Selkirk - could it be a > reference to this? > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Kind Regards, > Cameron Clark. > Melbourne, Australia. > > - ------------------------------ > End of BORDER-D Digest V00 Issue #267 > ************************************* > > ______________________________