Hi Everyone, I just subscribed to this listing and wanted to introduce myself. I am researching the HARDIE line. The line I have so far is from Earlston, Berwick, Scotland. It goes like this...and some end up in Ontario. Descendants of John Hardie 1 John Hardie .. +Margaret Hush ......... 2 Margaret Hardie b: August 20, 1804 in Earlston, Berwickshire, Scotland ......... 2 Edward Hardie b: January 20, 1807 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland ......... 2 Thomas Hardie b: July 18, 1808 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland ......... 2 Elizabeth Hardie b: March 28, 1810 in Earlston, Berwick, Scotland ......... 2 CHARLES Hardie b: July 28, 1813 in Earlston, Berwickshire, Scotland d: April 21, 1895 in Eramosa twp., Wellington co., Ont. ............. +Unknown Mrs. Brown ......... *2nd Wife of CHARLES Hardie: ............. +Janet (Banyan) Bunyan b: Abt. 1812 m: December 09, 1836 in Earlston, Berwick, Scotland d: October 07, 1866 in Eramosa twp., Wellington co., Ont. .................... 3 Ann Hardie b: August 03, 1837 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland ........................ +Mr. Mathers .................... 3 Janet Hardie b: February 12, 1840 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland ........................ +Seton .................... 3 John Hardie b: December 12, 1842 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland .................... 3 Margaret Hardie b: September 27, 1844 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland d: November 17, 1917 ........................ +Angus Smith b: Abt. 1839 m: March 02, 1865 d: January 03, 1910 .................... 3 MARY Hardie b: May 18, 1846 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland d: August 14, 1877 in Medora Twp., Ont. ........................ +WILLIAM Torrance b: October 28, 1831 in Midlothian co., Scotland m: July 04, 1862 in Erin Twp. .................... 3 George Hardie b: December 25, 1848 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland .................... 3 Elizabeth Hardie b: August 21, 1851 in Earlston, Berwick co., Scotland d: November 10, 1916 ........................ +Thomas Somerville b: Abt. 1841 m: August 1870 in Fergus d: June 01, 1930 ......... 2 Janet Hardie b: September 04, 1816 in Earlston, Berwick, Scotland ......... 2 John Hardie b: April 15, 1817 in Earlston, Berwick, Scotland ......... 2 Alexander Hardie b: January 31, 1819 in Earlston, Berwick, Scotland ......... 2 James Hardie b: February 27, 1821 in Earlston, Berwick, Scotland

Hi Tim, If you go to the old maps site at http://www.old-maps.co.uk and look for the county of Haddingtonshire, then Pencaitland in the index, you will be taken to a map of the Pencaitland area. If you scroll through the surrounding maps, you should find your Milnton. I had a quick look and only found a Wilton, but the scale is very large, so a bit of looking should bring you to the correct place. Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@tpg.com.au HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

Last week, I offered a lookups to any listers wanting information on their Family Groups from the 1891 Census of certain parishes in Rox. I overlooked the last two parishes on the LDS film I currently have on loan - 787A ECKFORD and 787B EDGERSTON. If anyone would like a lookup in these two parishes, just let me know your details (names, ages, possible birth place). I have the film until Nov. 3. Jim Arnott Canada

G'day Cobbers, Am researching the following family names of HALLIBURTON, OLIVER, WARK & WAUGH, details as below: Descendants of Ann WARK & James OLIVER 1. James OLIVER occupation Sawyer, m. Ann WARK. Children: + 2. i Thomas OLIVER b. circa 1818. Second Generation 2. Thomas OLIVER (1.James1) b. circa 1818, occupation Innkeeper, m. 12 Oct 1838, in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, Isabella WAUGH, b. circa 1809, (daughter of Michael WAUGH and Janet HALLIBURTON) d. 09 May 1869, High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT. Thomas died 23 Mar 1867, High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT. Children: 3. i Agnes OLIVER b. circa 1854, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, occupation Dom Servant/Tweed Birler, and Unknown, and Hugh McLEAVY, occupation Wool Spinner, m. 18 May 1885, in Townsville, Qld, Australia, Charles LEFEVRE, b. circa 1843, Paris, France, (son of Alphous LEFEVRE and Augusta Jean LOURALE) occupation Engineer. Tweed Birler (Wool) Marriage Certificate witnessed by a Peter OLIVER (is he a son or brother). 4. ii Michael OLIVER. Anybody who can assist me with these names? Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 CFHS 8731 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, Australia BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - Australia GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, Scotland INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Ireland>Qld, Australia McFADDEN - Ireland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, Australia McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Roxburgh, Scotland REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. RUDD - Qld, Australia SMITH - Scotland SPENCER - Scotland SPRENGER - Qld, Australia WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Scotland>New Zealand email to: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Australian Genealogy: http://opax.swin.edu.au/andrew/aust_genealogy.html

From: jpgeist Subject: Olivers,Jedburgh Hi Greg,you will be pleased to know the "Railway Tavern" is still there but I'm afraid the railway is long gone.I found T Oliver,proprietor of the "Railway Tavern" 52 High St Jedburgh in 1866. The 1881 Census entry is; 52 High St Jedburgh ROBERT LAMB,head,mar, 29,publican born Jedburgh. JANE LAMB,wife,35,born Hawick ISABELLA OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,17,barmaid,born Jedburgh. THOMAS OLIVER(Lamb),stepson,14,saddlers app,born Jedburgh. AGNES P OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,12,scholar.born Jed. ANNIE H OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,10,scholar,born Jed Mary Richardson,relative,unm,24,wool weaver,born Hawick Does this make any sense to you? There are 4 Peter Olivers,1 born 1841,1born 1875,2 born 1880.I can send these if you want them. The only Michael Oliver that seems to match is, LOCHSIDE HOUSE,MOREBATTLE 1881 MICHAEL OLIVER head,mar 58,gardener,born Jedburgh NELLY OLIVER wife,55,born Cavers. ISABELLA OLIVER,dau,18,fieldworker,born Jedburgh. ARCHIBALD OLIVER,son,18,forester,born Jedburgh THOMAS OLIVER,son,14,ag lab,born Jedburgh, Also;46 High St Jedburgh. ALISON WARK,head,widow 69,retired grocer,born Jedburgh, perhaps there is a connection there? There are a lot of Olivers in Jedburgh in 1881,let me know if you have any questions,have you been to Jedburgh? I went to school there,just around the corner from the "Railway Tavern"!.Keep in touch,Amanda ,Canada.

----- Original Message ----- From: jpgeist To: Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 5:01 PM Subject: Olivers,Jedburgh Hi Greg,you will be pleased to know the "Railway Tavern" is still there but I'm afraid the railway is long gone.I found T Oliver,proprietor of the "Railway Tavern" 52 High St Jedburgh in 1866. The 1881 Census entry is; 52 High St Jedburgh ROBERT LAMB,head,mar, 29,publican born Jedburgh. JANE LAMB,wife,35,born Hawick ISABELLA OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,17,barmaid,born Jedburgh. THOMAS OLIVER(Lamb),stepson,14,saddlers app,born Jedburgh. AGNES P OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,12,scholar.born Jed. ANNIE H OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,10,scholar,born Jed Mary Richardson,relative,unm,24,wool weaver,born Hawick Does this make any sense to you? There are 4 Peter Olivers,1 born 1841,1born 1875,2 born 1880.I can send these if you want them. The only Michael Oliver that seems to match is, LOCHSIDE HOUSE,MOREBATTLE 1881 MICHAEL OLIVER head,mar 58,gardener,born Jedburgh NELLY OLIVER wife,55,born Cavers. ISABELLA OLIVER,dau,18,fieldworker,born Jedburgh. ARCHIBALD OLIVER,son,18,forester,born Jedburgh THOMAS OLIVER,son,14,ag lab,born Jedburgh, Also;46 High St Jedburgh. ALISON WARK,head,widow 69,retired grocer,born Jedburgh, perhaps there is a connection there? There are a lot of Olivers in Jedburgh in 1881,let me know if you have any questions,have you been to Jedburgh? I went to school there,just around the corner from the "Railway Tavern"!.Keep in touch,Amanda ,Canada.

Hi Greg,you will be pleased to know the "Railway Tavern" is still there but I'm afraid the railway is long gone.I found T Oliver,proprietor of the "Railway Tavern" 52 High St Jedburgh in 1866. The 1881 Census entry is; 52 High St Jedburgh ROBERT LAMB,head,mar, 29,publican born Jedburgh. JANE LAMB,wife,35,born Hawick ISABELLA OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,17,barmaid,born Jedburgh. THOMAS OLIVER(Lamb),stepson,14,saddlers app,born Jedburgh. AGNES P OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,12,scholar.born Jed. ANNIE H OLIVER(Lamb),stepdau,10,scholar,born Jed Mary Richardson,relative,unm,24,wool weaver,born Hawick Does this make any sense to you? There are 4 Peter Olivers,1 born 1841,1born 1875,2 born 1880.I can send these if you want them. The only Michael Oliver that seems to match is, LOCHSIDE HOUSE,MOREBATTLE 1881 MICHAEL OLIVER head,mar 58,gardener,born Jedburgh NELLY OLIVER wife,55,born Cavers. ISABELLA OLIVER,dau,18,fieldworker,born Jedburgh. ARCHIBALD OLIVER,son,18,forester,born Jedburgh THOMAS OLIVER,son,14,ag lab,born Jedburgh, Also;46 High St Jedburgh. ALISON WARK,head,widow 69,retired grocer,born Jedburgh, perhaps there is a connection there? There are a lot of Olivers in Jedburgh in 1881,let me know if you have any questions,have you been to Jedburgh? I went to school there,just around the corner from the "Railway Tavern"!.Keep in touch,Amanda ,Canada.

Would also very much appreciate. John Edmonds Moriac Vic. Australia -----Original Message----- From: Murray & Bev <bevthompson44@xtra.co.nz> >Does any reader have a transcription of MI at CARHAM Cemetery? >I have recently seen a photo the tombstone of William and Martha Cassie >CURRY but unfortunately the words are not clear enough to read. It >seems there are also children buried with them and I would dearly love >to be able to enter the details in my family records. >Bev. > >______________________________

I have just received a photocopy of a will from Australia which was made by DAVID PRINGLE tenent in Milnton in the parish of Pencaitland - does any SKS know where this might be? Tim in Kent.

Hello, I understand that there is (in Kelso?) a monument to a man named Armstrong who was hung for theft although he only committed crime to help others. Possibly the monument would say something about a 'silk rope'??? I would love to know the story in detail. Thanks, Jacqui --------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Listers Thanks to a fellow lister for pointing out that the medical terms site address has changed. I did check it before posting. Sorry folks. RANKS, PROFESSIONS, OCCUPATIONS AND TRADES http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/trades.html Archaic Medical Terms http://www.gpiag-asthma.org/drpsmith/amt1.htm Regards Judy HALL

Hi, Listers, A fellow lister pointed out the address for the medical terms site has changed. It was correct at time of posting as I checked the page to see if it was active. Archaic Medical Terms http://www.gpiag-asthma.org/drpsmith/amt1.htm RANKS, PROFESSIONS, OCCUPATIONS AND TRADES http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/trades.html Regards Judy HALL

Does any reader have a transcription of MI at CARHAM Cemetery? I have recently seen a photo the tombstone of William and Martha Cassie CURRY but unfortunately the words are not clear enough to read. It seems there are also children buried with them and I would dearly love to be able to enter the details in my family records. Bev.

Dear Heather, An English birth certificate will give both the mother's given name and maiden surname, so it sounds as if you may have the wrong entry. Keep in mind though, that the mother could be in a second marriage. Have you tried the 1881 census to see if the baby was born then? I think the census was taken in April. Judy -----Original Message----- From: Heather & Dana Canevaro [mailto:caro@sk.sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2000 2:24 AM To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Eng. Cert. Help?? Hello All, I haven't done much research in Eng. and am looking for a bit of help. I have an entry from the St. Cath. index for 1881 from Newcastle/T. I e-mailed the Newcastle Registrars office and gave them the names of the parents I thought might be listed on the cert. They replied that the father matched but the mother didn't. Did these certs. for this time list the mothers maiden name or just her first name and then her married surname? Thanks, Heather Canevaro Canada ______________________________

This morning I found a very useful site on the internet with the IGI Batch numbers for the various regions and parishes in Scotland. There is page on this site that explains how to search the www.familysearch.org using Batch numbers. I believe this method of searching returns the most results if you know where your ancestors were located. I know I have located a few more records that I had been able to locate before. The site is at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/8333/index5.html Good luck, Dee

Hi Christine, thanks for your note,re your offer,you would be doing me a great favour if you could look up the following marriages registered in Victoria; Robert POLLOCK born Roxburgh Scotland married Jane Mary Mitcham 1886, George Donaldson KENNEDY born Rox,Scotland married Eliza Madeline Wainwright 1873. Thomas KENNEDY born Rox Scotland married Mary Byrne 1875 Bruce KENNEDY born Rox Scotland married Mary Jane Batson 1878 Wilson Douglas WHEELENS born Rox Scotland married Elizabeth Walters or Watters (can't read my writing) in 1885.I am hoping some of these men might be lost family members! thanks again,Amanda,CANADA.

Hi Robyn,there are a lot of "Swords" listed on the 1881 Census for Roxburgh,Selkirk, do you have access to it ? if not let me know,I also have;1861 Census,Harelaw Farm House,Lilliesleaf,under John Gray,farmer,Alexander SWORD,unm 17 yrs,farm serv,born Bowden Rox.Amanda,Canada.

Looking for John MOFFAT (MOFFITT) (b. before 1780, Norham) who may have married in Norham in c. 1800 Ellen "Nellie" DAVIDSON. The family had at least two children [Agnes (b.1815) and Andrew (1823)] born in Lanton where John and Nellie settled. Eventually, most of the family emigrated to New Brunswick. Would like information re the MOFFAT and DAVIDSON families pre 1815. Were they from Lanton or Norham? Parents? Other children?

Hi Cyril, Most would travel be sea from Berwick-upon-Tweed. Only the rich could afford travel by Stage-Coach, however the 'Berwick Smacks' carried passengers as well as cargo.. The fares around the time you are interested in were one pound ten shillings in a cabin or one pound steerage, children 7 shillings or 14 shillings, depending on age, dogs 5 shillings. This would have been a very uncomfortable and dangerous voyage in the winter. Details above were taken from the book 'Recollections' or 'Incidents culled from the lives of some of our sea-faring men.' Published by Martins of Berwick in 1908. Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia Email: agene@tpg.com.au HomePage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~agene

Thanks listers for such terrific information - it seems my ancestor Christy (Christian) Sword b 1807 at Southdean had a son by an Andrew Douglas (not identified) and he was christened John Sword Douglas on 8 March 1834, at Mervinslaw Farm by the minister of the Free Church of Jedburgh. In 1841 aged 5, John lived at Larkhall Farm 1 mile west of Jedburgh with grandmother Betty Sword, a widow, and her son Thomas aged 20 (agricultural labourer, probably at this farm). His mother Christy Sword was a servant to Robert Pringle at Bairnkine Farm about 2 miles to the south of Jedburgh and quite near to Mervinslaw. Christy died at Denholm in 1880 of 'general decay'! Could anyone with census lists say where Christy Sword resided between 1851-1880? (dau John Sword and Elizabeth). What level of education would young John have had in 1840's? He was successful in Australia, leaving 'many farms'! Robyn Melbourne, Aust.