please unsubscribe me ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Campbell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [BORDER] Re Clan map from The Steel Bonnets > > does not contain the clan map included in earlier editions. > > Hi Nancy, > > I can't help with the map from your book, but, maybe the following links > may be of some help, if the 2 on Scottish clans doesn't help, maybe > there is something in Cyndi's. Good > luck.http://www.scottishradiance.com/clanmap.htm > http://www.cyndislist.com/ > http://www.scotlandsclans.com/ > > > Regards, Malcolm Campbell, (London,Ontario,Canada) > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Berwickshire web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbew/ > >

I think I can get a copy of the older The Steel Bonnets at my library. As a matter of fact, I planned on picking it up yesterday and forgot. I've read it before and I do remember maps. Unfortunately, I cannot send files. I would have to send by mail Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA USA

> does not contain the clan map included in earlier editions. Hi Nancy, I can't help with the map from your book, but, maybe the following links may be of some help, if the 2 on Scottish clans doesn't help, maybe there is something in Cyndi's. Good luck.http://www.scottishradiance.com/clanmap.htm http://www.cyndislist.com/ http://www.scotlandsclans.com/ Regards, Malcolm Campbell, (London,Ontario,Canada)

Dera Lister At your recommendation, I have purchase the Book The Steel Bonnets by G.M.Fraser, and it as just arrived in Australia from Wales. However, it does not contain the clan map included in earlier editions. Does anyone has a scanned image of this map that they could send me in JPEG or TIF format? Thanks Nancy Lee

Marie There is a lot about Wolfelee in the book written by George Tancred " Rulewater and its People" He says the name was originally Woollee, and when it was rebuilt in 1825 - 1827, the name was changed, probably because of the neighbouring farm of Wolfhopelee. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "selfw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:26 AM Subject: [BORDER] Wolfelee > Hello Listers, > Can anyone tell me where in 18th century Roxburghshire Wolfelee was situated? > Many thanks, > Marie Rowan. > > ______________________________

Hi Marie, In the 1851 census, Wolfelee, Wolfelee House and Wolfelee Glen, along with Wolfehopelee, were in the parish of Southdean; Wolfelee Farm was in the parish of Hobkirk. Hope this helps, Graham Maxwell

Hello Listers, Can anyone tell me where in 18th century Roxburghshire Wolfelee was situated? Many thanks, Marie Rowan.

Can anyone who has a little spare time do a look up on the 1861 census for Hamilton Bellshill for a James Brophy and see if he came from Ireland he m: Jane Dougan 1861, they fit my brick wall gt gt gd parents they moved to Co Durham about 1862 Bob

Hi Bob dates? ;-) ---------- >From: "relder" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [BORDER] Elder >Date: Sun, Mar 23, 2003, 3:52 pm > > Hi All > I am reposting my some of my Family Tree hoping someone will recognize a > name or two > they come from Lilliesleaf & Hawick area > > Elder Helen m: Alfred Jackson Rolling lived in Rose Cottage Lilliesleaf > Elder Jane m: Thomas Hogg emigrated to America > Elder Annie m: Thomas Brisbane (Plumber) > Elder George m: Annie Bartham (Newcastle-upon-Tyne) lived in Lilac Cottage > Lilliesleaf > Elder Thomas Jardine m: Janet Elizabeth Blair ( Edinburgh) > Elder Catherine m: Victor David Hector McPherson > > Be pleased to hear from anyone connected or who knows the names > Bob > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Berwickshire web site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbew/ >

Hi All I am reposting my some of my Family Tree hoping someone will recognize a name or two they come from Lilliesleaf & Hawick area Elder Helen m: Alfred Jackson Rolling lived in Rose Cottage Lilliesleaf Elder Jane m: Thomas Hogg emigrated to America Elder Annie m: Thomas Brisbane (Plumber) Elder George m: Annie Bartham (Newcastle-upon-Tyne) lived in Lilac Cottage Lilliesleaf Elder Thomas Jardine m: Janet Elizabeth Blair ( Edinburgh) Elder Catherine m: Victor David Hector McPherson Be pleased to hear from anyone connected or who knows the names Bob

Thought this site might be of interest. It has very good photographs and in some cases the list of service men is quite easy to read. ----- http://www.andart.co.uk/swm/swmgallery.html Another very useful site reccommended by a fellow lister on the cumberland - mailing list is as follows -- http://www.mick-gray.co.uk/contents.htm or http://www.mick-gray.co.uk/a-z.htm ( which is how I found the SWM site) Regards AudreyM

Thank you for the Irregular marriages site, Audrey. I am trying to establish that my 5x great grandfather William Stevenson, who married in Haltwhistle NBD in the 1760s was the same William Stevenson who was bapt in Oxnam, Rox in 1740. An earlier researcher found he was, but the source has been lost. I've hunted high and low for the connection, to no avail. But I am wondering if the clue might be found in an earlier irregular marriage. The William married in Haltwhistle was a herd on farms near Falstone when two of his children were baptised, which places him close to Hyndhope and Bloodilaws, where the Oxnam family were herds. Any comments will be appreciated. Rosemary Richardson --------------------- London, UK [email protected]

Does anyone have access to the Branxton and Cornhill NBL Parish Registers? I am looking for the marriage of William BOOKLESS (or BUGLASS) to Janet WILSON about 11th May 1791. I would appreciate a lookup. This marriage was treated as irregular by the Church of Scotland because it was done according to the rites of the Church of England, so it had to be sustained by Session at Coldingham Priory BEW on 22nd May 1791. Since it was done according to the rites of the Church of England it ought to appear in the marriage register of either Branxton or Cornhill. Thanks Cyril

Hi - I am interested in the following persons and if anyone can help this would be much appreciated. William Ward - Registered Chemist & Druggist 1868 and had a business at No.3 Woolmarket, Berwick upon tweed. In 1875 this address changed to Hide Hill, Berwick upon Tweed but this is unknown if it was a home address or business. He married a lady called Mary A who was five years older than himself and they had two children - Andrina born 1871/2 and Isabella S born 1875. On the 1881 Census this family were living in Leeds in West Yorkshire. Do any of these names crop up in your family tree? Any help as to when William and Mary married would be a big plus. Thank you Dorothy (Ward)

A very comprehensive list of where these various registers are held can be found at -- http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/grosweb/grosweb.nsf/pages/runmar Keyword irregular marriages. The registers are not always in the public domain - for instance the one I was interested in was at that time held by a solicitor in Newcastle, who was I hasten to add most helpful in finding the information I needed. My Gt Gt Grandparents were married by Simon Lang at Gretna Green in 1853. I have posted to the list because I thought maybe other listers might be interested. Regards AudreyM

Hi Chris Sorry to disappoint you but there may have been a transcription error in the 1881 Census as William HUNTER's wife was alive and well and visiting with her daughter Elizabeth age 12 at the home of William's brother John HUNTER and his wife Elizabeth (nee SMITH - the cousin of my great-grandmother Helen OLIVER nee SMITH) at Drythrople, Chatton, Northumberland. William's wife was called Isabella but I do not know her surname, she was aged 49 in 1881 (although she was 27 in 1861 and 67 in 1901), birthplace Doddington. I have seen your previous postings about BONE and wondered if you had ever come across an Alexander BONE in the early 1800s in the Kelso area. I have a record of baptisms in the Kelso registers of three daughters Janet BONE christened 1815 Elisabeth BONE christened 1817 Mary BONE christened 1819 to Alexander BONE and Anne ROUGH (the sister of my great,great,great grandfather). I have not been able to find out anything about this family after these baptisms - are there any connections with your family? Best wishes Jane Glass Alnwick -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 15 March 2003 04:01 Subject: [BORDER] William Hunter Wooler, Northumberland, Eng >Looking for the following family from the 1881 British census. All children >born at Wooler Northumberland England. I am really looking for the spouse >who died. I suspect / hope it maybe Margaret Bain. > >Thanks, Chris Bain > > > >William HUNTER head widow 55 born SCT Shepherd >Jane " dau Unmar 24 born ENG Farm servant >Mary " dau Unmar 22 born ENG Dressmaker >George " son 19 born ENG Grocer >Thomas " son 17 born ENG Agri >Laborer >Adam " son 14 born ENG scholar >John " son 8 born ENG >scholar >William " son 4 born ENG > > >==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >*******************February Theme*********************** >Military family > >

Researching the following - Haughan - Horsley - Miskelly - Pearson - Klein - Bland - Brown and Lattimer The above are not in any order of importance Regards AudreyM

Hi All, Asking yet again. Can anyone help me with: Walter Hardie: b. 22 11 1875 @ Saughtree Cottage, Castleton, Roxburghshire, son of Archibald Scott Hardie and Margaret Ketchin/Kitchen/Ketchen. I have a very vague recollection that Walter or 'Wat' was a Railway Engine Driver, in which case he may well have been at Hawick. Margaret Hardie, b. 4 10 1882 @ Saughtree Cottage, Castleton, Roxburghshire, same parents as Walter above. I have no idea what happened to her but she may well also have been in Hawick. Hoping someone can help because I've been chasing these two for about seven years now. T.I.A. Roy

G'day Cobbers, Have the following OLIVER ancestry: Descendants of Margaret SMAIL & Andrew OLIVER 1. Andrew OLIVER. He married Margaret SMAIL, m. circa 1790. Children: 2. i James b. circa 1801. ii William OLIVER, b. circa 1792, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. iii Andrew OLIVER, b. circa 1796, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. iv James OLIVER, b. circa 1800, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. v Thomas OLIVER, b. circa 1801, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. vi John OLIVER, b. circa 1805, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. vii Walter OLIVER, b. circa 1806, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. Second Generation 2. James OLIVER, b. circa 1801, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, Cause of Death Sawyer. He married Ann WARK, b. circa 1801. Children: 3. i Thomas b. circa 1818. ii John OLIVER, b. circa 1821, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. iii James OLIVER, b. circa 1823. iv Jennet OLIVER, b. circa 1825, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. v Hall OLIVER, b. circa 1827. vi Andrew OLIVER, b. circa 1828, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. 4. vii David b. circa 1831. viii Peter OLIVER, b. circa 1836, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. ix Elizabeth OLIVER, b. circa 1839, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. Third Generation 3. Thomas OLIVER, b. circa 1818, Cause of Death Innkeeper, d. 23 Mar 1867, High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT. He married Isabella WAUGH, m. 12 Oct 1838, in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, b. circa 1809, (daughter of Michael WAUGH and Janet HALLIBURTON) d. 09 May 1869, High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT. Children: 5. i Agnes b. circa 1854. 6. ii Michael b. circa 1841. iii James OLIVER, b. circa 1839. 4. David OLIVER, b. circa 1831, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, Cause of Death Weaver. He married Sarah Jerdon DICKSON, m. 25 Jan 1856, in Camptown, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, b. circa 1832, (daughter of Charles DICKSON and Betty SCOTT). Children: i Elizabeth Turnbull OLIVER, b. 23 Nov 1857, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. ii Charles OLIVER, b. 18 Jun 1865, Blackhills Close, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. iii Charles D. OLIVER, b. 29 Dec 1868. iv Hall OLIVER, b. 22 Feb 1862, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. Fourth Generation 5. Agnes OLIVER, b. circa 1854, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, Cause of Death Dom Servant/Tweed Birler. Partner Unknown. Children: i Peter OLIVER, b. 27 Sep 1866, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. Partner Hugh McLEAVY, Cause of Death Wool Spinner. Children: ii Isabella Oliver McLEAVY, b. 29 Mar 1868, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 05 May 1950, buried: 06 May 1950, Martyn St Cemetery, Cairns, Qld, Aust. She married David BIRCH, m. 08 Dec 1888, in Cairns, Queensland, Australia, b. 23 Aug 1866, Wivenstone, Ipswich, Queensland, Austral, (son of Thomas BIRCH and Isabella McINTOSH) Carpenter, d. 26 Feb 1922, Cairns, Qld, Australia, buried: 27 Feb 1922, Martyn St Cemetery, Cairns, Qld, Aust. iii Micheal OLIVER, b. 1874, Galashiels, Roxburgh, Scotland. She married (3) Charles LEFEVRE, m. 18 May 1885, in Townsville, Qld, Australia, b. circa 1843, Paris, France, (son of Alphous LEFEVRE and Augusta Jean LOURALE) Cause of Death Engineer. 6. Michael OLIVER, b. circa 1841, Cause of Death Tailor Journeyman. He married Jane RICHARDSON, m. 19 Sep 1862, in Wilton Place, Wilton, Roxburgh, Scotland, b. circa 1845, 14 Howgate, Hawick, (daughter of Thomas RICHARDSON and Anges PARK). Children: i Isabella OLIVER, b. 14 May 1863, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. ii Thomas OLIVER, b. 28 May 1866, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. iii Agnes OLIVER, b. 11 Oct 1868, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. iv Ann Helen OLIVER, b. 30 Nov 1870, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. Would be very pleased to hear from anybody with the above surnames that tie in with above. Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 CFHS 8731 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, Australia BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - Australia GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, Scotland INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Ireland>Qld, Australia McFADDEN - Ireland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, Australia McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Roxburgh, Scotland REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. RUDD - Qld, Australia SMITH - Scotland SPENCER - Scotland SPRENGER - Qld, Australia WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Scotland>New Zealand email to: [email protected] Australian Genealogy: http://www.ke.com.au/bdmaus/index.html

Yes, that's Cavers old Church, my interest is from my Mothers maiden surname of CAVERS Rod Smith Visit my family history site www.rod-smith.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thistle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: [BORDER] Cavers > >Subject: [Clan DOUGLAS] Re: Call to Arms! Heritage in Danger!!!!!! > > At the Douglas of > > > Cavers Estate in Cavers Scotland the property has been sold, the new > >people Mr & Mrs Bennet have put in a application to the planning board to > >have the Church and graveyard turned int a private house!!! In the > >Church is a Douglas vault, in the graveyard are many Douglas graves. > > I'm not clear on this - is this the old Cavers Church? Or another church > and graveyard on the Douglas Estate? If it's the old Cavers Church there > are many Scotts also there...... among others. > > Peggy > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03