Hi I have recently come back from a holiday where I stayed in Byrness near Otterburn. The family I stayed with had a book that I would love to find a copy of but it is out of print now. Despite hunting high and low for it whilst I was there I couldn't find a copy to buy. It is called the Story of Redesdale by Beryl Charlton. It was published in 1998 by the Northumberland National Park Authority and the ISBN is 0907632157. It is only a slim paperback but very informative. If anyone can help me locate a copy I would be extremely grateful. Cheers Lesley --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release Date: 14/08/2003

Hi Lesley, Although Norham is in the IGI, batches P000761,P000762 however there are very few if any records after 1815, so he could well have been born there around 1825 and not appear in the IGI. Best regards - Mike Penrith, NSW, Australia

I have found George Atkinson age 26 in the 1851 Berwick census. He is a farmer, in the house are wife Isabella b. Scotland , son george b. Berwick and a 17yr old servant. George gives his birthplace as Norham, Nanthorn (thus my query a week or so ago). Norham appears to be on the IGI (that is the batch numbers of extractions correspond with all dates relevant) but no sign of George and no sign of him in Nenthorn either. His marriage cert 1848 gave his father as George Atkinson, a miller but I found no sign of this George on the census film. Any ideas where I could go from here? Lesley

>From: Lesley Silvester <[email protected]> >Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:24:57 +0800 > >I have found George Atkinson age 26 in the 1851 Berwick census. He is a >farmer, in the house are wife Isabella b. Scotland , son george b. Berwick >and a 17yr old servant. Do you mean Berwick on Tweed (England) or Berwickshire (Scotland)? Different record archives. >George gives his birthplace as Norham, Nanthorn (thus my query a week or so >ago). Norham appears to be on the IGI (that is the batch numbers of >extractions correspond with all dates relevant) but no sign of George and >no >sign of him in Nenthorn either. >His marriage cert 1848 gave his father as George Atkinson, a miller but I >found no sign of this George on the census film. >Any ideas where I could go from here? Do you know what records the IGI for Norham is based on? North of the Border, the extracted data is only based on the registers of the Church of Scotland, and folk from other denominations do not appear. Especially in the Borders, this can be a significant slice of the community. What does his marriage cert say about who carried out the marriage? What sort of Minister? When you know the type of church he married in, you have an idea of where to start looking for baptismal records. Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Can anyone help? My greatgrandfather was the policeman in Gordon 1889/Coldingham1892 and Eyemouth 1901 On the 1901 census he has two sons Thomas 17 postman and William 11 scholar I have no trace of them after that, my late mother didn't even know the existed. Any help would be appreciated. sandra

In fact, that message did not even come through the Border lists, it has just been made to look that way. The Rootsweb lists automatically remove any attachments, so if you ever get a message which looks like it has come via the lists and has an attachment, you should delete it immediately. If your email program has a View option you will see that although the addressee gives his address as Surrey, it has actually been sent from Australia, and there is no mention of Rootsweb in the hidden internet heading. Best regards - Mike Penrith, NSW, Australia

Sorry, this is off-topic! But just wanted to pass along the info that the latest virus/worms forge the return address, so Mike may have nothing to do with it. People often get virus/worm emails from *themselves*! Valorie On 6 Aug 2003 at 11:38, relder wrote: > This chap is sending out attachments with a virus in it. Thought I'd > let you all know save doing any damage to your PC Mike <snip>

Earlier in the week, someone on one of these two groups was asking about an Archibald Anderson. Sadly I deleted the message. Last evening I was transcribing some marriage certs and found that one of them was for an AA. On 12 June, 1868, he married Janet Brown in Whitsome (BEW). He was 28 and a shepherd, his parents were John A. (woolen mill worker) and Alison Christison. Lesley Robertson List Admin One Place Studies http://www.british-genealogy.com/mailman/listinfo/one-place-study _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

This chap is sending out attachments with a virus in it. Thought I'd let you all know save doing any damage to your PC Mike Trowsdale <[email protected]>

Wally, thanks for your reply to my posting regarding Rutherford - my brick wall. However at this time I have not been able to connect your Rutherford with mine. Good luck with your research, Dianne.

Ann Mitchel of Little Knox christened April 23,1846 and married James Rae Chum ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

>From: "wally anderson" <[email protected]> >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:49:08 -0600 > >searching for John Anderson > [br.18 01 1823] Horndean >I believe he married a Isabella Watson > of Scotland Our LDS does not have the 1861 or 1671 census of B upon T If >anybody can help ,it would be much appreciated WALLY ANDERSON Could you elaborate a little, please? Your mention of Horndean suggests Berwickshire (Scotland), but you also mention Berwick on Tweed (England). It's different archives and collections of records. Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

First time posting on the list.I am researching the surname GRIEVE from Branxholme Braes Hawick.Amongst many names I have James Grieve b 22nd Dec. 1773 , his wife Ann (Sibbald) they mar 1797 and had 12 children, including twins who only lived a few hours.Later other names include , Robert (died 1920) Elliott , Vivian mar Nora, William, James, Winnifred.Places include Shaftesbury Dorset 1922, Abergavenny 1931,Singapore and China area 1930-1950 , Clapham Sussex 1993. Professions include Farmer, Hosiery/wollen mills at Hawick and a shop selling these items in London 1936,, even a jockey called Willie Grieve who rode in China ? Any help most appreciated. Mike Stepney

Hello fellow listers from a cold overcast day here in Christchurch, New Zealand. After seeing the name Rutherford on the list over the last few days and the August theme being 'a brick wall', I decided to re-post my Rutherford brick wall. I am trying to find the marriage (?) of my 4 x Great Grandfather Robert Rutherford and his wife Helen Buchan / Buckham / Buckholm, and their parents. Robert possibly born c. 1760's / 1770's. They had five known children with a John born c. 1793, who is the eldest at this time of my research. I am assuming that my Robert's father could then possibly be a John Rutherford. There are several Robert Rutherford's in Roxburghshire around the time span of 1785 - 1810 that I am researching in, making it difficult to say which one is ours. The baptisms / births of their known children, I have not been able to locate after extensive reading of parish films in Roxburghshire at our LDS library. However I was lucky that the five children died after 1855 and their parents names were confirmed on their death certs. Some of the parish films that I have read, did have some years missing and as we all know it, it is the time span that I would like to research. It has held me up for a good couple of years now. I have also looked at the BVR index at our local library. Robert's occupation was a Farm Steward. Has anyone got any ideas how I could start to climb this wall. Is there anyone out there who knows of this family or are descended from Robert and Helen Rutherford. I am a direct descendant of their 4th son Robert who was born c. 1805, Maxton and married Elisabeth Oliver. Thanking you, Regards, Dianne Dixon nee Rutherford.

Hi Lesley, Badly written Mordington or Haddington are possiblities. Nenthorn is in Berwickshire, but there was also an Anthorn in Cumberland so could be either. B..... of Berwick - could it be Borough of Berwick? Best regards - Mike Penrith, NSW, Australia

Hello Sandra Isabella Dalziel married Edward Paterson,(Jane Dalziel? married Peter Paterson? I have no records on this matter.If true it would make Jane the mother in law of her older sister.This came from the DGFHS.) Dorthea Dalziel married Maxwell Kelly. Robert Dalziel married Betsy Mcvinnie various spellings. Hope you were able to use the census I sent to you. Chum --- chum richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:35:15 -0400 (EDT) > From: chum richardson <[email protected]> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [BORDER] Mitchel Richardson > Dalziel > To: [email protected] > > > > Hello Sandra > > Jean was 61 in 1851 census.Born around 1790? if > she > gave her right age. > > Isabella and Margaret Richardson came to > Ontario,Canada along with William Richardson > ,Margaret > Tod Dalziel and the other children.William was a > miller at Parton Mill,Parton,KKD. > William and Margaret were my gggrandparents. > > John Dalziel and Margaret Mitchel were married in > 1805 at Fagra Miln,Rewick,KKD. > > I think the Mitchel family of Little Knox are > related.Isabella Dalziel(Paterson) was living there > at > one time when James Mitchel was there.David > Richardson > from Urr was allso living there at one time.Some of > the Dalziel children were born at Little Knox and > possible John Dalziel died at Little Knox?? > A sister of Quintin Mitchel married MacAdam? > > Thomas Richardson oldest son of William and > Margaret > named some of his children aftyer people in > Scotland. > > Thomas married Jane Clark in Wellington > County,Ontario. Jane Paterson Richardson,James > Quintin > Richardson, Thomas Dalziel Mcgowan Richardson, > Hector > Lamont Richardson, Alexander Mcguire Richardson. > > Ann Mitchel of Little Knox married a Rae, > > I come to the library to use the www and this is > about all I can remember off hand. > > Chum > > > --- Sandra Ritchie <[email protected]> > wrote: > From: "Sandra Ritchie" > > <[email protected]> > > To: "chum richardson" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [BORDER] Mitchel Richardson Dalziel > > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:14:07 +0100 > > > > When was JEAN MITCHEL born? I am researching the > > Mitchels of Carsphairn and > > may have a link > > > > Regards > > > > Sandra Ritchie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "chum richardson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:53 AM > > Subject: [BORDER] Mitchel Richardson Dalziel > > > > > > > > > > Jean Mitchel born Carsphairn, age 61, was > > living at > > > the Village of Auchencairn in 1851. > > > > > > Isabella Richardson age 8 born Crossmichael > > and > > > Margaret Richardson age 11 born Crossmichael > > were > > > living with thier aunt. > > > > > > Is Jean Mitchel a sister of Margaret Mitchel > > > (Dalziel) who married John Dalziel?? > > > > > > Isabella (Robb)and Margaret are daughters of > > William > > > Richardson and Margaret Tod Dalziel who came to > > > Ontario, Canada in 1852. > > > > > > Is any one else looking at these families?? > > > > > > Chum > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > > > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, > > Berwickshire, Peebleshire. > > We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries > and > > Galloway, > > Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Would appreciate some geographical assistance! Have found a family on the 1851 Berwick census. Birthplaces were a little hard to read and I have checked several maps but cannot find 'MANNDINGTON'Scotland. There is Mordington, do you think that¹s what it should be? Also I assume that'Nanthorn' is probably Nenthorn The other place is BE??? Of Berwick. Any guesses? Cheers, lesley in Oz

> Roy, > > I have just replied to your previous e-mail. > > Sorry to be so slow. I didn't manage to log onto my PC > yesterday. > > Thanks Again & Best Regards, > Margaret > > >

> Roy, > > Yes I did receive & have replied to you directly. > > Kind Regards > Margaret. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy G. Perkins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:57 PM > Subject: [BORDER] Re: [D-G LIST] RUTHERFORD > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > Did you receive my reply of last night? I'll post this additionally to the > > Borders list in case there's a problem, as I suspect with e-mail because I > > sent to Arthur and Eunice as well and have heard nothing, Pl. let me know > > > > Regards > > > > Roy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Margaret Lewis" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:37 PM > > Subject: [D-G LIST] RUTHERFORD > > > > > > > Hello Roy, > > > > > > I hope that you can help me too. > > > > > > I am also researching the RUTHERFORD line of ANDREW RUTHERFURD & JEAN > SCOT > > > whose son was the WALTER RUTHERFURD b.1754 in Jedburgh, Roxburghshire, > > > married to MARY BELL and whose children were, ANDREW RUTHERFORD born > 1773 > > at > > > Hillhead, Halfmorton, Dumfries &Galloway & JOHN RUTHERFORD born 1782 > also > > in > > > D&G, which Arthur mentions. > > > > > > Arthur & I are connected through two of the children of ANDREW > RUTHERFORD > > > b1773, Hillhead, Halfmorton, D&G & JANET JARDINE. These being JOHN > > > RUTHERFORD abt 1808 (my line) &ANDREW RUTHERFORD abt 1823 (Arthur's > line). > > > > > > This being the case, I would be very grateful to you to also have any > info > > > that you may hold re these people. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards > > > > > > Margaret > > > (Sunny Norfolk) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Roy G. Perkins" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:26 PM > > > Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] RUTHERFORD > > > > > > > > > > Hi Arthur, > > > > > > > > I have some info. which may be of help to you but your system is > > blocking > > > my > > > > replies. Please let me know how to proceed. :-) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Roy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:18 PM > > > > Subject: [D-G LIST] RUTHERFORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > > > > > > > I have just re-joined the Group and would like to introduce myself > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > I'm Arthur Rutherford and I am researching the Rutherford family > > between > > > > 1700 > > > > > and 1800. > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for Andrew Rutherfurd married to Jean Scot whose son > was > > > > Walter > > > > > Rutherfurd born 1754 in Jedburgh, Rox. > > > > > > > > > > At marriage or just afterwards he must have moved across the border. > > > > > > > > > > Walter Rutherford married Mary Bell and had children, Andrew born > 1773 > > > at > > > > > Hillhead, Halfmorton, D&G and also John born 1782 in D&G. > > > > > > > > > > I would welcome any helpful information and would would like to > > receive > > > > > e-mails from any others who are researching the Rutherford family. > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Arthur Rutherford > > > > > Poole, Dorset, England. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > If your line involves the surname BRUCE why not join > > > > > [email protected] and find out more. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > > > > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > > > > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > If your line involves the surname BRUCE why not join > > > [email protected] and find out more. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. > We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, > Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > > > > >

--- chum richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:35:15 -0400 (EDT) > From: chum richardson <[email protected]> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [BORDER] Mitchel Richardson > Dalziel > To: [email protected] > > > > Hello Sandra > > Jean was 61 in 1851 census.Born around 1790? if > she > gave her right age. > > Isabella and Margaret Richardson came to > Ontario,Canada along with William Richardson > ,Margaret > Tod Dalziel and the other children.William was a > miller at Parton Mill,Parton,KKD. > William and Margaret were my gggrandparents. > > John Dalziel and Margaret Mitchel were married in > 1805 at Fagra Miln,Rewick,KKD. > > I think the Mitchel family of Little Knox are > related.Isabella Dalziel(Paterson) was living there > at > one time when James Mitchel was there.David > Richardson > from Urr was allso living there at one time.Some of > the Dalziel children were born at Little Knox and > possible John Dalziel died at Little Knox?? > A sister of Quintin Mitchel married MacAdam? > > Thomas Richardson oldest son of William and > Margaret > named some of his children aftyer people in > Scotland. > > Thomas married Jane Clark in Wellington > County,Ontario. Jane Paterson Richardson,James > Quintin > Richardson, Thomas Dalziel Mcgowan Richardson, > Hector > Lamont Richardson, Alexander Mcguire Richardson. > > Ann Mitchel of Little Knox married a Rae, > > I come to the library to use the www and this is > about all I can remember off hand. > > Chum > > > --- Sandra Ritchie <[email protected]> > wrote: > From: "Sandra Ritchie" > > <[email protected]> > > To: "chum richardson" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [BORDER] Mitchel Richardson Dalziel > > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:14:07 +0100 > > > > When was JEAN MITCHEL born? I am researching the > > Mitchels of Carsphairn and > > may have a link > > > > Regards > > > > Sandra Ritchie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "chum richardson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:53 AM > > Subject: [BORDER] Mitchel Richardson Dalziel > > > > > > > > > > Jean Mitchel born Carsphairn, age 61, was > > living at > > > the Village of Auchencairn in 1851. > > > > > > Isabella Richardson age 8 born Crossmichael > > and > > > Margaret Richardson age 11 born Crossmichael > > were > > > living with thier aunt. > > > > > > Is Jean Mitchel a sister of Margaret Mitchel > > > (Dalziel) who married John Dalziel?? > > > > > > Isabella (Robb)and Margaret are daughters of > > William > > > Richardson and Margaret Tod Dalziel who came to > > > Ontario, Canada in 1852. > > > > > > Is any one else looking at these families?? > > > > > > Chum > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > > > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, > > Berwickshire, Peebleshire. > > We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries > and > > Galloway, > > Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca