Hello everyone, and compliments of the season. I don't want to sound like an old "humbug", but I am a bit discouraged at the lack of response from people who put a query on this list, and then after me going to a bit of bother to find out something, they fail to reply. Just a courtesy email would only take a few minutes. Alas, from now on, I am only going to reply to folks I know, who will at least acknowledge my response. Nicky Young

Carter/coachman - or carrier maybe? They used carts. My 1838 almanac tells me that the Wooler carrier put up at the George Inn in Edinburgh. Since there were arrivals and departures on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, it sounds like there were at least 2 of them. Other listings put the George Inn in Bristo St. which might be a clue because there was a secession church there. Not sure when it was built. Maybe some kirk session records in the National Archives of Scotland. Just a guess tho as secession members wouldnt necessarily use the nearest chapel. Judy ---------- >From: "Margaret Flaiban" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [BORDER] Looking for the BURN family >Date: 11, Sat Oct, 2003, 10:20 pm > > Hi there everyone on the list - still scratching my head over where my > George BURN and Agnes TELFORD are. First born child in Wooler around > 1823/24. George BURN was a carter/coachman travelling to > Edinburgh/Wooler. We presume Wooler was their home town/base - searched a > few films for the area with no luck at all. The family may have been > Presbyterian non-conformists. My cousin is trying to search the Union > Bridge marriages in the hope their names will crop up. Does anyone have > any ideas I may not have covered ? Any chance of Gretna Green marriage > lists ? thanks - Margaret Flaiban - Adelaide South Australia > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We > also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, > Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria >

Hi Can anyone tell me anything about Muckledalehaugh. I am researching the Muir/Moore family from that area. Many thanks Sue Volker Hervey Bay, Qld, Australia

Sue, Meikledalehaugh, or Muckledalehaugh, is in the parish of Ewes, Eskdale, Dumfriesshire, and is just over one mile north of the parish church by the Langholm to Hawick road (A7). Ordnance Survey grid reference NY377927. Hope this helps, Graham Maxwell Annan, Dumfriesshire

Hi Claire Did any of these people stray into Cumberland as I know that most of the family are popular there. Gerald >From: "Claire Richardson Longmoor" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [BORDER] Longmoor/Mallinson/Mould/Hunter/Booth surnames >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:15:11 +0000 > >Dear List > >this is my first posting to the list so I thought I would tell you my >surname interests in County Durham. They are LONGMOOR/LONGMORE, >MALLINSON/KNOWLES MALLINSON, MOULD, HUNTER and BOOTH in particular in South >Shields and Hartlepool. The Mallinson family came originally from >Yorkshire. I would love to make contact with anyone else connected to these >names - I have a lot of information to share, in fact I think I have >managed to link with every Longmoor who ever set foot in Hartlepool! The >name SIEVERS (or SINERS) seems to crop up too - I have no idea where from - >I think it might be German. If anyone knows of any Sievers in Co. Durham I >would love to know. > >Claire Longmoor >Nottingham, UK > >PS I was a bit confused that there are so many lists for this area so hope >it's OK I have posted to all of them. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > >==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We >also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, >Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband

Claire, Do you know if ALLISON was ever a variant spelling of MALLINSON? Thanks for your information. Mary Allison Yonan [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire Richardson Longmoor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: [BORDER] Longmoor/Mallinson/Mould/Hunter/Booth surnames > Dear List > > this is my first posting to the list so I thought I would tell you my > surname interests in County Durham. They are LONGMOOR/LONGMORE, > MALLINSON/KNOWLES MALLINSON, MOULD, HUNTER and BOOTH in particular in South > Shields and Hartlepool. The Mallinson family came originally from Yorkshire. > I would love to make contact with anyone else connected to these names - I > have a lot of information to share, in fact I think I have managed to link > with every Longmoor who ever set foot in Hartlepool! The name SIEVERS (or > SINERS) seems to crop up too - I have no idea where from - I think it might > be German. If anyone knows of any Sievers in Co. Durham I would love to > know. > > Claire Longmoor > Nottingham, UK > > PS I was a bit confused that there are so many lists for this area so hope > it's OK I have posted to all of them. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria >

Dear List this is my first posting to the list so I thought I would tell you my surname interests in County Durham. They are LONGMOOR/LONGMORE, MALLINSON/KNOWLES MALLINSON, MOULD, HUNTER and BOOTH in particular in South Shields and Hartlepool. The Mallinson family came originally from Yorkshire. I would love to make contact with anyone else connected to these names - I have a lot of information to share, in fact I think I have managed to link with every Longmoor who ever set foot in Hartlepool! The name SIEVERS (or SINERS) seems to crop up too - I have no idea where from - I think it might be German. If anyone knows of any Sievers in Co. Durham I would love to know. Claire Longmoor Nottingham, UK PS I was a bit confused that there are so many lists for this area so hope it's OK I have posted to all of them. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hi Everyone The above list was updated earlier this month. PLEASE wold everyone check their Email address for correctness. I am now adding 2 further columns to show locality and dates of specific interests. I have a lot of info on file still to transfer so please do not swamp me with this info at the present time. However, if you are sending me new infomation, please include all the details for those interests. For new members the current list of over 3000 names can be seen on www.dfnoble.com/CULnames I anticipate that we will have over 4000 names early in the new year as the next update will be big so watch this space. Regards to you all and have a happy Christmas and a healthy and sucessful new year, it is a pleasure working with you all. Gerald Sandwith Surname List Administator _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Is anyone researching the family of this George LEES ? George LEES was the Informant , present at the Death of his Grandfather, Alexander DODDS when he died in Galashiels age 81 yrs., in April 1932. Alexander, a former Skinner, was the Widower of Janet LAMB, & the son of the late John DODDS & Elizabeth JEFFREY, however, her name was recorded as Margaret. Mary [email protected]

Hi All; Looking for any information on a Thomas Walton from Newcastle born around 1902.Home child that went to Canada. Thanks Ken Walton

Anyone interested in Anderson, Cossar, Fleming, Hope, Houston, Melrose,Renwick, Sommerville, Stavert, Struthers, Thomson, Veitch etc, may wish tocheck my website whereI have just uploaded over 85,000 persons. I expect to update the database on a monthly basis as I am working through the Parishes one by one adding the above names. The Geographic area for the above names includes South Lanarkshire, Peeblesshire and All BORDERS Counties incl Dumfriesshire. I have tried to connect as many family groups as possible but there are sure to be errors so do not take the information as Gospel - but a source to check. Please report any mistakes or aditions to me - [email protected] Site holding the above database is:- http://www.chouston.f2s.com/Alltrees/alltrees.html Regards Charles --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 02/12/2003

We have a dead end in one of the research lines that has only a reference in the census to a birthplace of Scotland. The name recorded is spelled as PITTILLO and PITTILLA but in IGI appears to be grouped at times with PITLOH The relevant ancestor had the forename Gideon and this appears to be a recurring name around Harbottle in Northumberland and in Presbyterian records. There is a christening that we read today in the Harbottle transcript of a grandchild to a John PITLOH where he is described as a native of Jedburgh. Whether co-incidence or otherwise there is a Gideon in IGI with a Jedburgh christening in 1714 although much too early for the 1808 birth of my Gideon. Our enquiry of the list is whether anyone has come across the forename/surname combination Gideon Pittillo [and variations] or can tell us if there are substantial gaps in baptismal/christening records in IGI or other publications for Jedburgh and that area in south and south west Roxburgh? Alan and Anne Middlemass Bearpark, Durham, UK We have not created any attachments to this mail.

Iam doing family seach and I have got back to 1659 James Burnett and Beattrix Sparke marrage Now looking fo James ancesters. I am a direct decendant of James Burnett Line I am willing to share any info that I have. Please visit my Website Peter Calgary Alberta Canada [email protected],caq http://members.shaw.ca/pdburn

Thanks for your interest in the name Annie TULLY. I searched for the marriage of your Robert & Agnes TULLY on the IGI and found it as 5 May 1828 in Edinburgh. I did not find any listing of children born to this couple on IGI, so I cannot make a link with them for my Annie TULLY. It seems unlikely that her parents would have been married in Edinburgh. I have Annie's birthplace as being Sprouston, Roxburgh, about 1834/35. This is info from the 1881 Census at Stitchel, Roxburgh, where she is listed with her husband Francis Paterson, their children, and a person named Betsy TULLY, age 74, identified as a "relative". If we speculate a bit, Betsy could be an aunt or aunt-in-law of Annie's. Annie TULLY and Francis PATERSON were married on 11 Aug 1853 at Nenthorn, Berwick. They had 10 children, the first named Harriet (likely Annie's mother's name if the traditional Scottish naming system was used) who died in infancy, & the name was used again for another daughter. I shall keep your e-mail on file, and if I do find any links, I'll get back to you. Katherine Vair Paterson On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 07:55 AM, ron & Judy wrote: > Hi Katherine > > My great grandmother Margaret Tully b 1831 D 1880 was the daughter of > Robert Tully and Agnes Cumming. > > I believe they came to Canada in 1829 and settled near Peterborough, > Ontario. Other Tully family members also came to the same area : > Roxburghsire and Galashiels . > > Does this fit in with your Annie Tully? > >

>From: "Jean Hanna" <[email protected]> >To: "Gerald Sandwith" <[email protected]> >CC: "jean Hanna" <[email protected]> >Subject: John Brown, Wright of Turnershall Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:06:20 >-0500 > >Hi List, > This is the first time I have posted. > > I have an ancestor, John Brown, Wright, Greenlaw, Berwick, b. 1752, >married to Isabel Donaldson in Melrose, 1788. He was shown as "John Brown, >Wright, Turnershall," but who had his children baptised in Greenlaw. His >children had a continuing connection with Turnershall, but his >grandchildren >were all born in Greenlaw. Can I assume the work was over the border, but >folk returned home for significant family events? I did find a current >reference on a map in the Reference Library to "Turnerhall Farm, Cum. SD >2396." Is it possible this could be the place? Would a farm have kept a >full-time wright? > > A second query: John Brown's son, John Brown, wright. born 1793, had >a >first-born daughter Agnes, b. 1824, one of five children all born in >Greenlaw. She is not mentioned as having died in infancy on the stone in >Greenlaw churchyard which lists conprehensive births and deaths for the >family. I have not been able to find a marriage for her. Could anyone >suggest how I might find her? > > Any help would be very welcome. > Jean, Toronto > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gerald Sandwith" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 6:56 PM >Subject: [BORDER] Cumberland Surname List Update > > > > Hi all > > > > I realise that we are nearing the end of another month and the surname >list > > needs updating. Due to a number meetings and Curling games over the next >2 > > weeks time will be limited so please be patient. > > > > Also, due to numerous requests to have areas of Cumberland to be shown > > against names I hope to add another column to the list but this will on >a > > staggered basis. > > > > New names should be sent to me meanwhile and hopefully we will reach the > > 3000 mark by the end of the year. Those new to the list please join in >and > > let me have your name interests. You never know you may find new >relatives > > in time for Christmas and have a clan gathering early in the New Year. > > > > Those of you who are shy and lurking please also join in. Lets all have >a > > happy Geneoligical Christmas. > > > > Gerald Sandwith > > > > List Administrator > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > > > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. >We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, >Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Hi all I realise that we are nearing the end of another month and the surname list needs updating. Due to a number meetings and Curling games over the next 2 weeks time will be limited so please be patient. Also, due to numerous requests to have areas of Cumberland to be shown against names I hope to add another column to the list but this will on a staggered basis. New names should be sent to me meanwhile and hopefully we will reach the 3000 mark by the end of the year. Those new to the list please join in and let me have your name interests. You never know you may find new relatives in time for Christmas and have a clan gathering early in the New Year. Those of you who are shy and lurking please also join in. Lets all have a happy Geneoligical Christmas. Gerald Sandwith List Administrator _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Hello Listers. I am researching James AINSLIE born 1823 Berwick. I believe he had a brother Archibald but no proof and also family has it that his father was John AINSLIE. James moved to Manchester by 1852 and married Emma SENIOR. They moved to Birmingham where their children Elizabeth Ann 1865, James 1859, Helen 1861 and Isabel 1863 were born. I have a lot more on descendents if anyone is interested but would like more pre 1823. Helen Canada Researching AINSLIE<READ<DOWSE>CARR<LLOYD<JOINSON<HORWELL ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:00 AM Subject: BORDER-D Digest V03 #186

Hello Barbara, In response to your question about any Ellen/Helen PATERSON occuring in my family history - The name Ellen (or Helen) occurs frequently among the descendants of Francis PATERSON & Helen CLARK. But Francis was born in 1794 as mentioned in my previous message, his wife Helen's birthdate is still unknown, and I don't know if Francis had a sister (or paternal aunt) named Helen. Francis & Helen PATERSON lived near Jedburgh in a cottage at Timpendean Farm, where he was farm steward. Their children - John b. 5 Sep 1823 Roxburgh marr. Margaret TAYLOR 1845 (emigrated to Canada 1853 - my grgrgrandparents) Andrew b. 7 Nov 1825 marr. Helen ELLIOT 1859 (innkeeper in Hawick) Christian b. 2 Jan 1828 - no further info - (may have married George MURRAY 1848) Margaret b. 10 Jun 1830 - marr. William (Will) SCOTT 1851 (Timpendean Farm, then Spylaw Farm near Kelso) Francis b. 28 Mar 1832 - marr. Christina WHITE 1856 (railway worker in Edinburgh) Agnes b. 20 Jul 1834 - marr. Andrew JOHNSTONE 1856 (farm steward in Eckford) Helen (Ellen) b. 7 Sep 1836 marr. William SCOTT (a different one!) 1866 (railway worker in Edinburgh) Susan b. abt Jun 1839 marr. John SMAIL 1868 (blacksmith in Kelso) Thank you for your interest. Katherine Vair Paterson

Hello Ave, Re: the John PATERSON mentioned in your will - I am a descendant of Patersons from the Roxburgh area of Scotland. My oldest known ancestors of direct line are Andrew PATERSON & Margaret SCOTT who married on 6 May 1790 at Oxnam, Roxburgh. Their known children are: John PATERSON b. 27 Apr 1792 Linton, Roxburgh - no other info known Francis PATERSON b. 25 Sep 1794 Linton, Roxburgh, d. 13 Feb 1868 Jedburgh, Roxburgh marr. Helen CLARK 27 May 1821 at Ancrum, Roxburgh (my direct ancestors) James PATERSON b. 24 Aug 1796 Linton, Roxburgh marr. Harriet ANDERSON? Only known child, a son Francis b. abt 1830 marr. Annie TULLY Susan PATERSON b. 9 Nov 1798 Linton, Roxburgh, d. 1 Mar 1873 Ladhope, Roxburgh marr. John BLACK 21 Mar 1824 at Crailing, Roxburgh All males that I have mentioned were farm workers or stewards, so the ironmonger profession of your John Paterson of Peebles doesn't seem to fit into this family's heritage. If you think there may be a link between your John Paterson and the family listed here, I would be happy to exchange information with you. Katherine Vair Paterson [email protected]

Hello lister My name is Ave Ferguson (nee Paterson) and I have just downloaded a Will from the Scottish Documents site. As my ancestor was a business man (Flesher) many names are listed from in and around the PEEBLESHIRE area. I have posted this on the Peebleshire list but thought that it might help other if I also post on this list any person with interests in any of these names are welcome to email me. especially the name of STEEL, GRIEVE, KEDDIE AND PATERSON Hope they help someone somewhere Cheers Ave Ferguson WALTER STEEL snr. died at Peebles, Peebleshire, Scotland. 7 April 1836 probably born 1750/60's married to ELIZABETH GRIEVE in Peebles 1784 (still alive at time of writing) 183 Occupation: FLESHER in Peebles. known family of Walter and Elizabeth. JEAN STEEL 1785 married James KEDDIE ROBERT STEEL 1787 ELIZABETH STEEL 1789 JOHN STEEL 1794 THOMAS STEEL 1796 WALTER STEEL 1799 JAMES STEEL 1806 MARGARET STEEL...still alive at writing.. (is she the daughter of a previous marriage to Ann Burden) names mentioned in Inventory: dated May 1837 and Will written on JOHN WOOD Esq. Advocate Commissary of the Commissariat of Peebles JOHN BATHGATE Writer in Peebles WILLIAM ROBERTSON Appraiser in Peebles SIR WILLIAM FORBES, JAMES HUNTER AND COMPANY ... Bankers in Edinburgh JAMES LEADBETTER Writer in Kelso ALEXANDER LEADBETTER Painter in Kelso WALTER ANDERSON sometime farmer at Crookston now at Cramilk(t) DUNCAN McARTHUR innkeeper in OBAN (?Married Walter's granddaughter Isabella KEDDIE) JAMES KEDDIE residing in Peebles dated 1835 (? grandson of Walter) JAMES CAMERON innkeeper in PEEBLES (?married Walter's granddaughter Jean KEDDIE) THOMAS MURRAY (deceased as at 1837) Merchant in Peebles WILLIAM MURRAY sometime residing in Edinburgh and afterwards in Eddlestone now deceased (as at 1837)(Innkeeper) Sons of the deceased ARCHIBALD MURRAY Merchant in Peebles ELIZABETH DUNCAN alias MURRAY residenter in Peebles (Thomas and Williams' mother) WILLIAM LAMBERT mason in Peebles A. MOFFAT HELEN MCARTHUR ROBERT TOSH Peebles JOHN BURTON Esq. Commissary Depute of the Commissariot of Peebles JAMES TURNBULL Builder in Peebles JOHN HUME baker in Peebles JAMES ALEXANDER Tenant, Easter Happrew THOMAS SALTON Tenant of Howford Referring to land and sasines etc granted or bought from acquired from ALEXANDER PORTEOUS Thread Manufacturer in Kelso Sasine dated 31 Dec 1812 Recorded at Kelso 4th Feb 1813 bounded by land belonging to Heirs of JOHN TURNBULL Baker and Heirs of JAMES KER Merchant in Peebles Miss ELLIOT of Peebles Heirs of JAMES CAIRNS Writer in Peebles acquired from WILLIAM WHITE merchant or Grocer in Edinburgh Sasine dated 7 Feb 1825 and recorded at Edinburgh 15 Feb 1825 bounded by land belonging to JOHN GIRDWOOD property formerly belonging to ROBERT BRUNTON thereafter to the Representative of CHARLES GRAY, and now to the EARL of WEMYSS and MARCH acquired from JOHN GRIEVE Wright in Peebles JAMES GROSART mason in Peebles and his spouse Sasine dated 25 Aug 1817 Recorded at Peebles 12 Sept 1817 bounded by Land belonging to JAMES GROSART tanner THOMAS GIBSON acquired from JAMES GROSART tanner Sasine dated and recorded at Peebles 21 June 1826 Bounded by land belonging to JAMES MATHISON Wright Shop acquired by me from JOHN GRIEVE sasine dated and recorded 1st July 1830 ( Walter's father in Law) LILLIAS LYON Acquired by me from WILLIAM THORBURN Taylor in Peebles or WILLIAM THORBURN TAYLOR sasine dated and recorded at Peebles 12 Feb 1825 bounded by land belonging to JOHN REID Surgeon in Peebles JOHN PATERSON ANDREW SCOTT'S representatives and house acquired by WILLIAM THORBURN from ROBERT LYON dwelling house acquired by me from JOHN GRIEVE Wright in Peebles Sasine dated 25 Aug and recorded 1st Sept 1817 Bounded by land belong to THOMAS GRIEVE HANNAH MUIR ISABELLA MURRAY alias STEEL (Widow of the late Walter STEEL JNR ) Pew No. 50 Trustees of ANDREW TURNBULL Candlemaker in Peebles dated 6th March 1812 subjects? bounded by property sometime belonging to the late ADAM GOVAN, Merchant , now to WILLIAM THORNDON, Messenger sometime belonging to THOMAS SALTON, Tenant of Howford, now to ROBERT CRAIG, Surgeon MARY STEEL ROBERT STEEL Children of the Late ROBERT STEEL (son of Walter Steel snr) ELIZABETH KEDDIE or PATERSON wife of JOHN PATERSON, Ironmonger in PEEBLES MARION KEDDIE residing in Peebles JEAN KEDDIE residing in Peebles JAMES KEDDIE presently at Hobart Town, Van Diemans Land ISABELLA KEDDIE wife of DUNCAN McARTHUR , Innkeeper at OBAN WALTER KEDDIE of Peebles JOHN KEDDIE of Peebles all children of the last JEAN STEEL daughter of WALTER STEEL snr and JAMES KEDDIE merchant in Peebles JAMES ALEXANDER THOMAS SALTON ROBERT WIGHTMAN KER JAMES TURNBULL JOHN HUME