Are any listers familiar with the town of Coldstream? I'm trying to locate Gas Lane. When I visited Coldstream in 1996 no one could tell me where it was. However, I recently saw some properties for sale in Gas Lane, Coldstream. Thanks Simon

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Kerry If you wouldn't mind, I would very much appreciate your help in finding a birth/baptism record for my gt gt grandfather Matthew SPENCE, apparently born in Cornhill in 1823/4. Father's name Robert SPENCE, mother Jane. It would also be interesting to hear of other SPENCEs you might come across while you're looking. The mother Jane was from Scotland, but I don't know any more about the origins of Robert SPENCE who was already dead when I first find Matthew, his wife Margaret (MOFFATT) and his mother Jane in Carham in the 1851 census. Many thanks - good hunting! Ian > >______________________________ >X-Message: #3 >Date: 29 Jan 2004 08:16:27 +0800 >From: kerry <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-Id: <[email protected]> >Subject: [BORDER] Cornhill parish records >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I ordered the parish records for Cornhill via my local LDS Family >History Centre. It has now arrived! > >Would anyone like me to do a lookup? > >Regards >Kerry > ----------- Ian Spence Uppsala, Sweden _________________________________________________________________ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/

Kerry, in your trawl thro' the parish records, if you come across any TEMPLE's, I'd be obliged for the information. My "brickwall" is trying to trace the birthplace, parents and siblings of my G.G.Grandfater, George TEMPLE, born c.1775/6. His wedding entry at St. Cuthberts, Elsdon, Northumberland said he was a Husbandman of Camphouse, Jedburgh parish. Also a John TEMPLE (possibly George's brother), a farmer of Camphouse, Jedburgh parish, born c.1764/5, who married a Mary ------ of Camptown, Jedburgh parish about 1795. Regards, Mike Temple, Spain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kerry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:16 AM Subject: [BORDER] Cornhill parish records > I ordered the parish records for Cornhill via my local LDS Family > History Centre. It has now arrived! > > Would anyone like me to do a lookup? > > Regards > Kerry > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria >

I ordered the parish records for Cornhill via my local LDS Family History Centre. It has now arrived! Would anyone like me to do a lookup? Regards Kerry

Hi ... I have a few CHISHOLM and one WHIELAW. Jack WHIELAW married Jean STEWART born 1880, the daughter of William Dunbar STEWART and Jessie FOUBISTER. CHISHOLM: I have James Chisholm born in Scotland married Mary urnbull born in Scotland (no info on them). They had six children - William 29/8/1856 ... Mary Bell 7/8/1858 ... Walter 3/11/1860 ... Thomas Turnbull 9/6/1863 ... James 28/9/1865 ... Oliver 15/2/1871. All Surnames are CHISHOLM (just unusual second names). I only have birth dates except for WALTER CHISHOLM bon Hawick, Scotland who married 14/12/1887 in USA o Helen BAIN born 1859 Scotland and died before 1920 in Florida USA. I have no children for them, but go backwards and forwards with the BAIN/RENTON line which is my husband's direct line. Perhaps there is a connection, but mine seemed later than yours. Beryl Renton in Brisbane

Hi ... I have James LEITCH marrying Grace DICKSEN - daughter of Andrew Dickson and Margaret Lockhart - no further information but James and Grace had a daughter Jessie LEITCH born 1855 Crichton, Edinburgh who married in 1879 to Thomas ENTON born 1856 in Lauder, Berwick. They were farm attendant and housemaid in Crichton and then moved to Leith. Thomas then became a Whisky Distiller. This continues with my husband's direct RENTON/BAIN line. Any information would be appreciated. Beryl Renton in Brisbane

Hi Jim, I've looked at the Foulden parish register a few times on microfilm by ordering it in at my local LDS library. $AUS6 for four weeks and you can look at it any time that the library is open. I'm curious about the names you are researching there, as they are like old friends to me. I have some printouts from the very early years of the register as members of my family were there in 1682 when the register began, and were there up to the late 1800's. Try this page of the LDS website to see what church records they have filmed for Foulden. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp ?display=localitydetails&subject=3056&subject_disp=Scotland%2C+Berwick%2 C+Foulden&columns=*,0,0 Regards, Judy -----Original Message----- From: Jim Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 8:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BORDER] Foulden Parish register Morning Listers I wonder if anyone could advise me how I might check an entry in the Foulden Berwickshire parish register as I've never as yet needed to access any Scottish records! With thanks Jim ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== A New Year A fresh Start Share any new information you have cracked in 2003 Any unusual sources of information to break down those brick walls!

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>From: "Jim Smith" <[email protected]> >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:43:44 -0800 > >I wonder if anyone could advise me how I might check an entry in the >Foulden Berwickshire parish register as I've never as yet needed to access >any Scottish records! > Scotland's People will be putting images of the registers on line some time this winter/spring. The index is already there, so you can check if the entry is there. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ The IGI (extracted records) is based on the OPR so it might be worth having a look there first http://www.familysearch.org/ BUT make sure that you check that the data you find is extracted from the records and not patron-submitted. Also, I've found entries in SP that aren't in the IGI. Even if you don't use the SP database, have a look at their web site - bottom right of the front screen is a very good "getting started" section which will tell you what's available. Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail en Messenger on the move http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/

Morning Listers I wonder if anyone could advise me how I might check an entry in the Foulden Berwickshire parish register as I've never as yet needed to access any Scottish records! With thanks Jim

William married Alice Whillens the illegitimate daughter of Robert Whillens a stone dyker and Eliza Turnbull,born 16 Nov 1865.Eliza eventually married William Hume 18 May 1870.Alice died 15 April 1899.The 1901 census had William age 44,daughter Alice 11,Jane 4 and two others ages 9 and 6,the copy was quite poor.Looking for a connection with either William or the children. regards, Jack Turnbull

Hi all It has been some time since I sent out a query for information on my ancestors. My gggrandfather was John Cleghorn b. 1769 in Roxburghshire. His wife was Isabel Oliver b. abt. 1777 in Hawick Parish the daughter of John Oliver and Agnes Ekron. They were married by a Mr. Paton in Ettrick, Selkirk, Scotland on June 14, 1799. They lived for many years on Falnash farm in the upper part of Hawick Parish where we believe John was a shepherd. They emigrated to Guelph, Ontario, Canada in 1831 with 7 of their 11 children. The 4 girls who stayed in Scotland were: Janet b. 1800 (infant death); Helen b. 1804 m. to Walter Laidlaw; Elizabeth b. 1806 m. ?; Eliza b. 1810 m. ? John and Isabel carried a letter of introduction with them to Canada from their preacher Gavin Turnbull of Carlenrigg Chapel, Hawick dated May 17, 1831. We don't know what port they left from in Scotland or came to in Canada and haven't been able to find any ships lists showing their names. If anyone has any ideas on where we could find this information it would be greatly appreciated. We are especially looking for siblings and/or parents of John. If anyone thinks John or Isabel (or any of the girls who stayed in Scotland) may be a part of their family tree I would love to hear from you. Thanks Mary Ellen (Cleghorn) Pilmer

William and Mary nee:Beattie married 1801 @ Southdean.Unable to locate a death date for William,Mary died March,1859 @ Southdean from scotlandspeople.They had the following children: Thomas born 30 March 1802 @ Southdean--unable to locate any info on him James born 27 March 1804 @ Southdean--my line I have quite a bit of info. John born 27 April 1806 @ Southdean--unable to locate any info on him Robert born 17 April 1811 @ Southdean died July 1875 @ Southdean married to Alison Webster although I cannot locate any marriage info or children. Jane born 04 August 1814 @ Southdean-unable to locate any info on her. Would appreciate any help. Jack Turnbull

Just a test , I haven't had any messages for 3-4 days and wondered if there was a problem regards Linda

Hi All , can anyone help me? I have THOMAS and ANN WRIGHT both died at LAIDLAWSTIEL in March 1879 . Would anyone have any idea where they would have been buried and would there be any MI's for there. Regards Glenn

Hi, Searching for almost anything on Alice Mercer,daughter of Robert and Euphemia nee:Turnbull.Born 1880 Melrose,Rox.I may have found her in the 1901 census in Edinburgh as a music student and a possible marriage to George Dun who died 29 Sept 1944 Galashiels.Unable to confirm anything. Jack Turnbull

yes, I think the best strategy is to get hold of the films for Jedburgh, including the non church of Scotland records. I notice on the IGI there are a couple of TEMPLEs of an age to be siblings to your George, at Southdean. It would be worth getting the Southdean film too I think. (As an alternative, you could spend a bit of time & cash on Scotland's people, assembling local TEMPLEs into family groups) The advantage of looking at the films is all the extra stuff you get along the way. You get a feel for what is going on in the parish, and if you are very lucky, some extra note or scribble from the minister referring to your family. Still cant work out what that church or chapel is doing on the map before the Church of Scotland one was built. Is it something to do with the Edgerston estate I wonder? Judy ---------- >From: "Joy and Mike" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BORDER] Fw: TEMPLE/JEDBURGH PARISH. >Date: 20, Tue Jan, 2004, 9:19 pm > > Popssibly my TEMPLE's legged it up to Jedburgh Kirk on a Sunday, but I > believe there were a number of churches/chapels in Jedburgh town at that > time, 1760-1770, so it'll be a case of trawling thro' many B.M.D.'s at the > local record office.

>From: "Wilf" <[email protected]> >Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:53:19 -0000 > >I know that FEU means ground rent in Scotland and that FEUAR had something >to do with paying the landowner not to do war service, could anyone explain >what it means when written in this context. Feu comes from feudal, and is the folding of land under a feudal "supervisor" - the payment might have been quite small but was usually made to someone whose family had been the local landowner at some period in the past. Ownership of the land, and of the feu, were not the same thing. It had nothing to do with wartime, but was, as you say, a form of land rent. The feuar was the person who had the land and had to do the paying. Under its index heading "research tools" Scottish Documents http://www.scottishdocuments.com has a collection of old scots words and a list of old occupations with definintions which you might find useful. Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/

Hi Wilf, A search on google for Feuar gives the following:- The scheme of land tenure in Scotland by which an area of land or feu is held by a feuar (sometimes known as a vassal) from a superior for a fixed annual payment of a sum of money (known as feuduty) following an initial payment. In strict feudal theory, the Sovereign is the universal landowner. All other landowners hold their feus from the Sovereign. In Scotland sub in feudation is possible (it has been unlawful in England since the 13th century). Accordingly it is possible for a vassal who actually lives on the feu to hold of a superior which superior is in fact another person's vassal. The feudal system creates a chain or pyramid with the Sovereign as ultimate owner at the top and the intermediate positions being taken by the Sovereign's vassals who are ipso facto superior to those further down the chain, or at the base of the pyramid. The feuar has all the rights of an owner subject however to the burdens or conditions imposed by the superior. Originally the burdens might require the vassal to perform personal services, such as military service or other forms of feudal duty, or to provide food or other necessities to the superior. Most services have been converted to a payment of feuduty, although some important services are still performed as originally intended. "Feuar": someone who rents ground by payment of an annual fee - the feu. Best regards - Mike Simpson, Penrith, NSW, Australia http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~agene