Just to add to this advice from Lesley... A lot depends on when you stay and where you go. If you stick to nice warm hotels and towns then just make sure you have a warm woolly and a rain coat of some sort in case it turns chilly or wet. But 'the area' covers a lot of very different terrain and the upland areas can be much harsher. If for example you nip over the Border to visit Hadrian's Wall you will soon see why the legionaries needed warm socks. And some of the places you want to visit may be overgrown with lots of nettles or brambles so bring a pair of jeans to protect your legs. If it was me my packing list would also include: lightweight water/ windproof jacket; and two jumpers or fleeces - one thick one thin. Strong shoes or boots. But also - t shirts, summer dress and sun screen! And don't forget your swimmers as the local pools are great. Judy On 15 Aug 2006, at 20:12, Lesley Robertson wrote: >> From: Diana <dianado@shaw.ca> >> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:38:05 -0700 >> >> Just wondering if anyone can tell me what the weather is like in >> mid-September at Berwick upon Tweed & the Scottish Borders? >> >> I'll be staying a week in the area and would like to pack the >> appropriate clothing for the trip. >> > The way this summer is going, it'll be completely unpredictable. It > could be warm and sunny, it might not. However, if you go here > http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml just before you pack, and > feed it the name of the place you're staying in, you'll get a 5 day > forcast. > Lesley Robertson > > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Share Genealogy programs or IT resources you have found useful. Any > websites that you can recommend. >

>From: Diana <dianado@shaw.ca> >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:38:05 -0700 > >Just wondering if anyone can tell me what the weather is like in >mid-September at Berwick upon Tweed & the Scottish Borders? > >I'll be staying a week in the area and would like to pack the appropriate >clothing for the trip. > The way this summer is going, it'll be completely unpredictable. It could be warm and sunny, it might not. However, if you go here http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml just before you pack, and feed it the name of the place you're staying in, you'll get a 5 day forcast. Lesley Robertson

----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Geist Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: Thomas Murgatroyd,Hawick. Dear list,looking for anyone connected to Thomas Murgatroyd,born approx 1843,father Joshua Murgatroyd. Thomas married Margaret Huggan 18th Sept 1863 at 1 BackRow, Hawick, 2 known children;Joshua born May 4th 1864, Janet born Sept 1865,both Hawick, family still alive 1881,Hawick. hope to make a connection, Amanda.

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 Greetings to All Listers! Just wondering if anyone can tell me what the weather is like in mid-September at Berwick upon Tweed & the Scottish Borders? I'll be staying a week in the area and would like to pack the appropriate clothing for the trip. Thanks for your help, Diana in British Columbia, Canada

Hi folks, 'sbeen a long time but i've got my computer back and hopefully it;ll keep going now. i can't post much for hte time being as i've an incredible backlog of things to be done but i've got a lot of saved clips so when time allows, i'll post a load. i don;t keep the clips afterwards. they really are taking up too much room - one of hte reason i want to get them posted. i;ve tried to be accurate, but some are quite difficult to read. you're always best to check up on the details anyway. also bear in mind that 'forthcoming marriages' didn't always take place. The Times, Thu, May 19, 1938; pg.19; Issue 47998; col C Forthcoming Marriages: <> GARNETT = BROOKE The engagement is announced between Edward Douglas GARNETT, Royal Artuilleery, only s. of capt. & Mrs GARNETT, Kelsale Hall, Saxmundham, SFK, & Eileen Mary [Kitty], only dau of Major & Mrs ES Blois BROOKE, Ufford pl., Woodbridge, SFK & Port May hse., Dundrennan, Castle Douglas, Scotland. <> LYNCH-STAUNTON = LARGE The engagement is announced, & the marriage will take place on 18 Jun, of Douglas, s. of Major & Mrs LYNCH-STAUNTON, of Cawderstanes, Berwick-on-Tweed & Dorothy Yolandi, 2nd dau of the late WAA LARGE & Mrs LARGE, of Felpham, Bognor Regis. The Times, Wed, May 19, 1937; pg.17; Issue 47688; col C Forthcoming Marriages: <> DARLING = DAVIDSON The marriage arranged between Mr James Adam DARLING & Miss Helen DAVIDSON will take place quietly at Berwick-on-Tweed early in June The Times, Thu, Aug 14, 1969; pg.10; Issue 57638; col B Forthcoming Marriages: <> LYELL = ADAMS – the engagement is announced between David, s. of Mr & Mrs D Lyell, of Newtonlees, Kelso & Irene Anne, youngest dau of the late Mr J ADAMS, of Ballymena, co. Antrim. The Times, Sat, Jan 28, 1933; pg.13; Issue 46354; col B Forthcoming Marriages: <> SMITH = McINTOSH – the engagement is announced between John James Elliot, elder s of Mr & Mrs JRC SMITH, Mowhaugh, Kelso, and Elizabeth Mary Hunter, dau of Mr JGH McINTOSH, WS, and niece of Mr & Mrs William THOMSON, 5 Rothesay Terr., Edinburgh. The Times, Mon, Aug 11, 1958; pg.10; Issue 54226; col A Forthcoming Marriages: <> GILROY = BRODIE – the engagement is announced between Alexander Cyril, s of the late Mr Alexander GILROY, & Mrs GILROY, of Waukford, Kirk Yetholm, Kelso ROX, and Marion, elder dau of Major & Mrs BRODIE of Lethen, Nairn. The Times, Fri, Jan 23, 1931; pg.17; Issue 45728; col C Forthcoming Marriages: <> ELLIOT = BEVAN the engagement is announced between Thomas William Henry, 3rd s of Mr TRB ELLIOT & the late Mrs ELLIOT, of Clifton Park, Kelso, & Gwendolen Brinsley, eldest dau of Mr & the Hon Mrs EH BEVAN, of Hilston Pk, Monmouth. The Times, Thu, Oct 07, 1976; pg.36; Issue 59828; col Marriages: <> MARTIN = WILLIAMS – on 6 Oct 1976, in Anstruther FIF, Colin, elder s of the late Lt Col, the rev CJM MARTIN, Roxburgh Manse, Kelso, to Paula, eldest dau of the late Dr PM de C WILLIAMS & Mrs M WILLIAMS. The White Hse, Stadhampton, Oxford The Times, Tue, Nov 25, 1958; pg.1; Issue 54317; col A Marriages: <> SUTHERLAND = HENDERSON – on [2]0 Nov 1958, at Trinity North Church, Kelso, John Brewer SUTHERLAND, Ross, Belford, to Alice Muirface, elder dau of Mr W Stamford HENDERSON, Usan , Makerstown, Kelso. [a difficult one to transcribe. apologies if it's wrong] The Times, Tue, Nov 15, 1977; pg.16; Issue 60161; col B Marriages: <> MacKAY = McCORQUODALE – the marr. took place on Fri 11 Nov., at Helmsdale, Sutherland, between Mr Raymond MacKAY, elder s. of the late Mr RH MacKAY & Mrs A MacKAY of skeray, Sutherland, and Miss Jill McCORQUODALE, dau of Col & Mrs McCORQUODALE of Kelso, ROX. The Times, Mon, Jun 20, 1927; pg.1; Issue 44612; col A Marriages: <> ROSS STEWART = FRASER on June 16, 1927, at St Michael's church, Sprouston, by the very Rev Charles J WARR, MA., St Giles Cathedral, Dean of Thistle & Chapel Royal, and Rev Frank H MARTIN, BD, St Matthew's church, Edinburgh, William ROSS STEWART MB., FRCSE., Major IMS., only s. of the late David ROSS STEWART, Advocate, Edinburgh, and Mrs Lorne Campbell, Colinton, to Margaret Jean Denholm FRASER, eldest dau of Rev D Denholm FRASER, MA., and Mrs FRASER, the Manse, Sprouston. The Times, Mon, May 26, 1958; pg.8; Issue 54160; col A Marriages: <> LYSTER = SCOTT PLUMMER – The marriage took place on Sat at St Andrew's, Kelso, of Mr Rae Lionel Haggard LYSTER, elder s. of Mr & Mrs Lionel LYSTER, of Apps, Stock, ESS, & Miss Julia Elizabeth SCOTT PLUMMER, elder dau of Mr & the Hon Mrs Humphrey SCOTT PLUMMER, of Mainhouse., Kelso, ROX. The Rev JW HARRIMAN officiated. The bride , who was given away by her father, wore a gown of white French paper taffeta with a short sleeved fitting bodice and a full skirt caught up at each side with bows and falling into a short train. Her short tulle veil was held in place by a wreath of white flowers and green leaves. 4 child bridesmaids, Jane SCOTT PLUMMER, Alexa SCOTT PLUMMER, Rachael WATHERSTON, & Josephine WYHOUSKA, and 4 older bridesmaids, Miss Esther MITCHELL. Miss Jill MOUBRAY, Miss Teresa INGLIS, & Miss Gillian PITMAN, attended her. All the bridesmaids wore dresses of white nylon over green taffeta and wreaths of lilies-of-the-valley. They carried bouquets of mixed white flowers. Mr Peter LYSTER was best man. The Times, Fri, Jul 19, 1946; pg.8; Issue 50507; col C Marriages: <> BAILEY = STORMONTH DARLING – the marriage took place yesterday in St Andrew's episcopal Church, Kelso, ROX, of sir Derrick BAILEY, Bt., s. of the late Sir Abe BAILEY and the Hon Lady BAILY, of Stud House, Oakham, Rutland, and Miss Katherine Nancy STORMONTH DARLING, DAU OF Mr & Mrs R STORMONTH DARLING, of Rosebank, Kelso. The rev RC LINTON officiated. the bride was given away by her father and was attended by 3 bridesmaids and a page. the best man was capt KA EVERS. the reception was held in Rosebank. The Times, Tue, May 18, 1954; pg.1; Issue 52934; col A Marriages: <> PLAYFAIR = ROBERTSON – on 15 May, 1954, at St Andrews Episcopal Church, Kelso, by Rev JW HARRIMAN, Patrick Armour, elder s of Mr & Mrs John PLAYFAIR, Liberty, Elie, Fife, to Frances Ann, elder dau of Mr & Mrs R S? ROBERTSON, Morebattle, Tofts, Kelso. 40th Anniversary <> EDWARDS=LAIDLOW - on 18 May, 1914, at the Prospect PM Church nr Maryport, Joseph EDWARDS to Mary LAIDLOW. for over 30 yrs, a steward at the Keswick Convention. present addr., Clematis Cottage, Sebergham, Carlisle The Times, Wed, Dec 01, 1976; pg.32; Issue 59875; col A Deaths: <> CRAKE – on Nov 17, suddenly but peacefully, in London, Major David HAMILTON, late KOSB, in his 50th yr., much loved husband of Tessa, father of Victoria & dear brother of Mary. funeral at St George's, Hanover sq., Fri 3Dec. private cremation. donations, if desired, to KOSB Welfare Fund, Regional Headquarters, Berwick-on-Tweed The Times, Mon, Apr 29, 1946; pg.1; Issue 50438; col B Deaths: <> TURNBULL – Apr.27, 1946, at a nursing home in Edinburgh, Bennet Craig TURNBULL, of Eastfield, Lempitlaw, Kelso. Service at Sprouston church, tomorrow, [Tue] & internment in Lempitlaw Cem. The Times, Tue, Aug 31, 1875; pg.1; Issue 28408; col A Deaths: <> HARRRIS – on 25 Aug, at his residence, Whinfield, Preston, Thomas HARRIS, Esq., aged 70. <> GRUT/PATTISON – on 26inst., at Leven, Marianne GRUT, wife of George Handasyde PATTISON, Esq., Advocate, Edinburgh, Sheriff of Roxburgh, Berwick & Selkirk . The Times, Tue, Sep 14, 1875; pg.1; Issue 28420; col A Deaths: <> SWINTON/HOME - on 9 Sep., Penmaenmawr, N Wales, Annie Lydia Keith SWINTON, dearly beloved wife of Rev Robert HOME, Swinton BEW <> STEVENSON on 12inst. at her residence, Ravensdowne, Berwick-on-Tweed, Elizabeth, wid. of the late Robert STEVENSON, Esq., of the same place, Surgeon, in her 96th year. The Times, Sat, Jan 23, 1875; pg.1; Issue 28220; col A Deaths: <> HARRINGTON/ SURYEES. on 17inst., at St Helier's Jersey, Frances HARRINGTON, eldest dau of the late Aubone SURYEES, Esq., of Pigdon & Newcastle-on-Tyne. <> LAMBERT on 18inst., at Woolmarket, Berwick-upon-Tweed, Emmeline Elizabeth, wid., of the late Peter LAMBERT, Esq., of London & Berwick-upon-Tweed, aged 43yrs. The Times, Fri, Oct 02, 1936; pg.1; Issue 47495; col A Deaths: <> TAIT – on 1 Oct, 1936, at Edenside, Kelso, Margaret Turnbull Brown TAIT, of Edenside, Kelso, and Langrig, BEW., dau of the late James TAIT, WS., of Edenside & Langrig. Funeral, Kelso Old Parich church, tomorrow, Sat. The Times, Wed, Jan 28, 1959; pg.1; Issue 54370; col A Deaths: <> LEATHER – on Jan 26, 1959, at Berwick-on-Tweed, Rosamund Mary, youngest dau of Frederick John LEATHER, of Middleton Hall, Belford, NBL., and the friary, Tickhill, Rotherham, in his 84th year. Funeral BerwickT cemetery 29th Jan. that's all for now folks. hope ypu're all well, and your researches progressing satisfactorily le durachd :-) fionnghal ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html

Dear List. I am looking for anyone who may have a connection to James Helm born approx 1844 in Hawick,mother Elizabeth Stevenson, Reputed father David Helm. Stepfather Thomas Huggan. James Helm married Jane Ogilvie, Nov 12th 1880 at 45 Loan,Hawick,parents,John Ogilvie,Jane Ogilvie,ms Maxwell, 1891 family living at Bright St,Hawick, 1901 family living at 8 Morrison Place,Hawick. James and Jane Helm had 4 known sons; Thomas Helm born approx 1886,Hawick James Helm born approx 1890.Hawick John Helm born approx 1892 Hawick, George Helm born approx 1894 Hawick, James Helm died Nov 28th 1921 age 77yrs at 14 Howegate,Hawick, informant was his son James Helm. Any help would be great as this is a new branch of my Stevenson/Huggan family tree, Amanda, Ontario,Canada.

Hello everyone: I'm a new subscriber to this list. I am looking for anyone who has a connection to the following family: Two brothers, and possibly other family members Richard JOHNSTON, born about 1809, SCT (married Mary IRVING) James JOHNSTON, born about 1821, Faugh or Hayton, CUL (married Mary RUDD) Their father was James JOHNSTON, b. SCT (married to Elizabeth) Richard had nine children: George, James, Jane, Thomas, Margaret, Mary, Elizabeth, Richard & John. James had five children: James, Elizabeth (Betsy), John Joseph, Thomas, & Edward. Some were blacksmiths and were in the Hayton, Faugh, Brampton area but am wondering where they lived in SCT. Perhaps they were not far from the border. Many thanks, Barbara, New Zealand

Hello List I am seeking several families in the Borders Region i will set them out Below George THOMSON age 40 married to Ann LINDSAY age 35 the couple were married on 14 June 1822 in Melrose ,Roxburghshire.They had two sons Robert aged 15 Cooper apprentice and Alexander aged 14 Tailor apprentice this from the 1841 Edinburgh census.From Alexanders death certificate it states born in Stow, Alexander Married Robina KINNAIRD on 22 November 1844 at St Cuthberts ,Edinburgh. Robert married Janet WHITE born 18 September 1823 West Linton, Peebles. Janet was the daughter of Thomas WHITE and Janet KEMP . William DICKSON married to Catherine HENDERSON the Parents of Marion DICKSON Christened 29 October1815 in Peebles ,Peebleshire. Marion DICKSON married Robert KINNAIRD on 20 November 1837 at St Cuthberts ,Edinburgh. Any information of any of these families will be appreciated and will further my research. Thank you in advance Jacobina robertgascoigne@cox.net

Keys to the Past gets a #1 rating from me. More pics to go with the information on specific spots would be appreciated. Regards, From Sydney, Oz Dave BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > BORDER-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 122 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Rate you web sites on the list [Pennymac61@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from BORDER-D, send a message to > > BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Rate you web sites on the list > From: > Pennymac61@aol.com > Date: > Sat, 5 Aug 2006 06:33:41 EDT > To: > BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > > To: > BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > > > A good website for Northumberland Researchers wanting to know about the > towns in this area is > > _www.keystothepast.info_ (http://www.keystothepast.info) > > > Rate this site on the list > > > 1-provides excellent info > down to 5 no useful info > > While we are at it any other good sites that listers could recommend to > others > > List Admin >

Hello Dale & Diana, While researching irregular border marriages, I came across a lovely picture of Lamberton Toll, 1890s at this URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~agene/lamberton.html Regards, Karen Graham Toronto, Ontario, Canada Diana, My GGG Grandparents were married at Lamberton Toll in 1848. I went to have a look at it last year but unfortunately it has now gone. There is a lay-by on the border and the site of the Toll Bar Cottage is in this lay-by - I think there is a plaque there but I can't be sure. If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ and enter the following co-ordinates 397380,657020 it will show you Lamberton Toll Bar Cottages and the Hamlet of Lamberton just to the North. Maybe this was the "Hall" referred to. Regards Dale Utterson Derbyshire, UK Berwickshire County Coordinator FreeREG Project - Free Internet searches of Baptism, Marriage & Burial records pre 1855 http://www.freereg.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana" <dianado@shaw.ca> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: [BORDER] Lamberton Hall & Lambert Toll Cottage, Mordington Parish > Sunday, July 30, 2006 > > > Hello to All Listers! > > Just wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with Lamberton Hall or > Lambert Toll Cottage? > > My Second Great-Grandfather's death registration states that he died at > Lamberton Hall in 1900. > > His burial record (Berwick upon Tweed Record Office) states that he died > at Lambert Toll Cottage. > > Does anyone know where this is? > > Is 'Lamberton Hall' the same as 'Lamberton Toll House' or are they two > different dwellings? > > I'd like to visit Lamberton Hall or Lambert Toll Cottage on my trip to the > area in September. > > Thank you for any help or suggestions, > Diana in British Columbia, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: BORDER-D Digest V06 #121

Sunday, August 6, 2006 Greetings to All Listers! Just wondering if anyone knows of Spittal United Presbyterian Church in Northumberland? I discovered an ancestor baptized & married there and would like to take a bus from Berwick upon Tweed to Spittal. Does anyone know if there are buses going to Spittal from Berwick upon Tweed, as I'll be visiting Berwick? Thank you. Appreciate any help or suggestions, Diana in British Columbia, Canada

A good website for Northumberland Researchers wanting to know about the towns in this area is _www.keystothepast.info_ (http://www.keystothepast.info) Rate this site on the list 1-provides excellent info down to 5 no useful info While we are at it any other good sites that listers could recommend to others List Admin

Diana, My GGG Grandparents were married at Lamberton Toll in 1848. I went to have a look at it last year but unfortunately it has now gone. There is a lay-by on the border and the site of the Toll Bar Cottage is in this lay-by - I think there is a plaque there but I can't be sure. If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ and enter the following co-ordinates 397380,657020 it will show you Lamberton Toll Bar Cottages and the Hamlet of Lamberton just to the North. Maybe this was the "Hall" referred to. Regards Dale Utterson Derbyshire, UK Berwickshire County Coordinator FreeREG Project - Free Internet searches of Baptism, Marriage & Burial records pre 1855 http://www.freereg.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana" <dianado@shaw.ca> To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: [BORDER] Lamberton Hall & Lambert Toll Cottage, Mordington Parish > Sunday, July 30, 2006 > > > Hello to All Listers! > > Just wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with Lamberton Hall or > Lambert Toll Cottage? > > My Second Great-Grandfather's death registration states that he died at > Lamberton Hall in 1900. > > His burial record (Berwick upon Tweed Record Office) states that he died > at Lambert Toll Cottage. > > Does anyone know where this is? > > Is 'Lamberton Hall' the same as 'Lamberton Toll House' or are they two > different dwellings? > > I'd like to visit Lamberton Hall or Lambert Toll Cottage on my trip to the > area in September. > > Thank you for any help or suggestions, > Diana in British Columbia, Canada > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. > We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, > Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria >

Hi all I wondered if SKS could look up the 1851 census for Kyloe. I have James HOOD b c1847, William HOOD b c1843, John HOOD b c1849. These may not be the same family but were all born in Kyloe. I also have Thomas HOOD b c1820 Beal-Kyloe and John HOOD b c1820 Beal-Kyloe. John b 1820 has the parents of Thomas HOOD and Ann HOOD nee SIMMONS. Any help here would be great Paul

Hi Everyone The above list has been updated. As usual please check your entries and also advise me of changes. I know that some Email addresses may be out of date and I would appreciate being able to update these ASAP. Web Address www.dfnoble.com/CULnames For new researchers this a list of over 6000 names being researched. The people on the list may hold the key to solving your research and you may also be able to help them in return. Regards Gerald

Hi Diana, There is a photo of Lamberton Toll Cottage on my site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~agene/lamberton.html This was a site for irregular Border marriages, not often one hears of someone who died there. I do not know of a Lamberton Hall, I used to regularly visit relatives at the Whales Jaws Farm at Lamberton, (the actual Whales Jawbones can still be seen mounted in the gateway to the farm just off the A1 Great North Road), so am fairly familiar with the area. Regards, Mike Simpson Penrith, NSW, Australia http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~agene  

FYI - I have found in Scottish records, that Mary and Margaret are interchangeable. I am sure they are the same person. Shirley > From: onganda@iway.na> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:57:15 +0100> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BORDER] Lennel Old Churchyard, Coldstream - HATTLE, WOOD> > Hi Diana> > Your query and Lesley's reply led me to take a few hours this Sunday to > dig a bit deeper into the Robert HATTLE/HETTLE - Mary WOOD family. It > has cost me a few quid on ScotlandsPeople, and now I am surrounded by > printouts of search results and quite a few birth and marriage > registers.> > My one surprising find was the marriage of James HATTEL to Jane MURRAY > (1868, 18th Sept. Parish of Edrom in Berwickshire. GROS Data 738/00 > 0008). I came across this at the same time as finding Thomas HATTLE > (transcribed also as HATTEL) marriage to Alice KERR (1855 in > Coldstream). > > Now James HATTEL is the son of Robert HATTLE and Margaret WOOD (not > Mary). Now I have the mystery of finding out just who this Robert is, > and whether Margaret was a sister of Mary WOOD. It is interesting to > see on the ma! rriage register, under the column for parents' names, the > surname HATTLE is crossed out both for Robert and Margaret, and re-> written HATTEL, with superscripts 2 and 3 above each one respectively. > How would one find out what these mean?> > I tried to work backwards to find the origins of Robert HATTLE and > Margaret WOOD, but found more info on their son James and Jane (nee > MURRAY). Jane died in 1882 (age 37), and their last-born was James > (junior) on 23 May 1881 - born Edrom at Blackadder Mains. I struggled > to find them in 1881 and eventually got them as HUTTLE at Blackadder > Mains. James' mother Margaret (nee WOOD) might be the Margaret HUTTLE > age 65 at Blackadder Farm Home (GRO ref volume 738, Enum Dist2, page > 15), although she is not given as widowed but unmarried Henwife.> > My original source Anne Hattle in Berwick had listed this Margaret as a > daughter of Robert HATTLE and Mary Wood, but I am not sure now. Too > late at night, but maybe you can make! head and tail of this. Especially > as you are heading that way...> > Going back to James HATTLE/HATTEL and Jane MURRAY family - in 1891 the > widower James is HATTLE again in Swinton with son Robert (21), > presumably twins Andrew and Christina (both 18), Joseph (16), Margaret > (14) and young James (9). They maust have moved a bit as James, > Margaret and Joseph were born in Edrom, Cristina and Andrew in > Chirnside, and Robert in Hutton. The birth register of young James > HATTEL in 1881 quotes the marriage registry date of his parents James > HATTEL and Margaret WOOD as September 17th, 1869. This is one day and > one year different from the date on their marriage register (18 Sept > 1868) - I wonder why.> > While trying all the spelling variations, I also got the marriage of > Robert "HUTTLE" to Jane BLACK (1875). Robert of course being the son of > Joseph HATTLE and Elizabeth Hogg HATTLE (nee DAVIDSON) and grandson of > Robert HATTLE and Mary WOOD.> > I also found Robe! rt HATTLE/HETTLE and Mary WOOD's son Alexander's birth > by chance, registered under HETTLES (with the S on the end) - Parents > Frame ref 901, GROS 733/00 0004> > I hope your pieces of the puzzle are more orderly than mine! I see I > need to check this all against your earlier writings off-list, but I > put this on-list now in case there are others with links to our lines, > and as I am not sure when you intend travelling to the Borders.> > Cheers> > Alan Hattle> > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ====> Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, Kirkudbrightshire, Northumberland and Cumbria> _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d

Hi Diana Your query and Lesley's reply led me to take a few hours this Sunday to dig a bit deeper into the Robert HATTLE/HETTLE - Mary WOOD family. It has cost me a few quid on ScotlandsPeople, and now I am surrounded by printouts of search results and quite a few birth and marriage registers. My one surprising find was the marriage of James HATTEL to Jane MURRAY (1868, 18th Sept. Parish of Edrom in Berwickshire. GROS Data 738/00 0008). I came across this at the same time as finding Thomas HATTLE (transcribed also as HATTEL) marriage to Alice KERR (1855 in Coldstream). Now James HATTEL is the son of Robert HATTLE and Margaret WOOD (not Mary). Now I have the mystery of finding out just who this Robert is, and whether Margaret was a sister of Mary WOOD. It is interesting to see on the marriage register, under the column for parents' names, the surname HATTLE is crossed out both for Robert and Margaret, and re- written HATTEL, with superscripts 2 and 3 above each one respectively. How would one find out what these mean? I tried to work backwards to find the origins of Robert HATTLE and Margaret WOOD, but found more info on their son James and Jane (nee MURRAY). Jane died in 1882 (age 37), and their last-born was James (junior) on 23 May 1881 - born Edrom at Blackadder Mains. I struggled to find them in 1881 and eventually got them as HUTTLE at Blackadder Mains. James' mother Margaret (nee WOOD) might be the Margaret HUTTLE age 65 at Blackadder Farm Home (GRO ref volume 738, Enum Dist2, page 15), although she is not given as widowed but unmarried Henwife. My original source Anne Hattle in Berwick had listed this Margaret as a daughter of Robert HATTLE and Mary Wood, but I am not sure now. Too late at night, but maybe you can make head and tail of this. Especially as you are heading that way... Going back to James HATTLE/HATTEL and Jane MURRAY family - in 1891 the widower James is HATTLE again in Swinton with son Robert (21), presumably twins Andrew and Christina (both 18), Joseph (16), Margaret (14) and young James (9). They maust have moved a bit as James, Margaret and Joseph were born in Edrom, Cristina and Andrew in Chirnside, and Robert in Hutton. The birth register of young James HATTEL in 1881 quotes the marriage registry date of his parents James HATTEL and Margaret WOOD as September 17th, 1869. This is one day and one year different from the date on their marriage register (18 Sept 1868) - I wonder why. While trying all the spelling variations, I also got the marriage of Robert "HUTTLE" to Jane BLACK (1875). Robert of course being the son of Joseph HATTLE and Elizabeth Hogg HATTLE (nee DAVIDSON) and grandson of Robert HATTLE and Mary WOOD. I also found Robert HATTLE/HETTLE and Mary WOOD's son Alexander's birth by chance, registered under HETTLES (with the S on the end) - Parents Frame ref 901, GROS 733/00 0004 I hope your pieces of the puzzle are more orderly than mine! I see I need to check this all against your earlier writings off-list, but I put this on-list now in case there are others with links to our lines, and as I am not sure when you intend travelling to the Borders. Cheers Alan Hattle

Sunday, July 30, 2006 Hello to All Listers! Just wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with Lamberton Hall or Lambert Toll Cottage? My Second Great-Grandfather's death registration states that he died at Lamberton Hall in 1900. His burial record (Berwick upon Tweed Record Office) states that he died at Lambert Toll Cottage. Does anyone know where this is? Is 'Lamberton Hall' the same as 'Lamberton Toll House' or are they two different dwellings? I'd like to visit Lamberton Hall or Lambert Toll Cottage on my trip to the area in September. Thank you for any help or suggestions, Diana in British Columbia, Canada

Hi Evryone For those with interests in Cumberland I hope to update the Surname List within the next day or so. Please could you check that your Email addresses are still up to-date at www.dfnoble.com/CULnames For new researchers and of course existing, the information I need is the Surname being researched, Email address, Places of interest where known and approx time periods. If you have a web site that will be a bonus. Please could you send your information at any time but if you wish to catch the next up date it needs to be with me within 24 hours. This is an ideal way to breakdown brick walls. Regards Gerald