My 3rd Great-grandfather, Aaron Porter Borden, b. 1784, Connecticut. His son, Otis Borden, b. 1815, Yates County, NY. I see no connection with the Borden you are looking for. Attached is a 5 generation file PDF file for Aaron Borden. My mother was Nellie Borden. Please let me know if you find a connection. Bill Jessup ----- Original Message ----- From: <borden-request@rootsweb.com> To: <borden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:01 AM Subject: BORDEN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 4 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John and Joseph Borden (Phoebe Webb) > 2. Re: John and Joseph Borden (LITTLEWHTDOVE@aol.com) > 3. Re: John and Joseph Borden (Theron L. Smith) > 4. Re: John and Joseph Borden (Phoebe Webb) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:01:59 -0400 > From: "Phoebe Webb" <pwebb94@hotmail.com> > Subject: [BORDEN] John and Joseph Borden > To: BORDEN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <BAY142-F2531DE56788CE4222E5304A0190@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Hello Everyone: > > I am looking for information on a John Borden abt 1763 he married Content > Clayton abt 1764 they were married in Burlington, New Jersey 13 Jan 1783. > > I can find two children for John Borden and Content Clayton and they are: > > Joseph Borden abt 1785 in New Jersey or maybe Pennsylvania he died in > Ontario, Canada around 1868. He married Phoebe Webb who was the daughter > of > Isaac Webb and Ann Clayton. Ann Clayton and Content Clayton were sisters > so > Joseph and Phoebe were first cousins. Phoebe was married prior to Joseph > to > Peter Wisner and they had two children Lavina Wisner and Zepaniah Wisner. > Joseph and Phoebe had 3 children together Thomas Melville Borden (married > Jane Dale), Charles Borden (married Mary Jane Stephens/Stevens) and Mary > Borden who married David Rogers who died in Ontario thats when it appears > Mary moved to Manitoba where she raised all her children. > > Mary Borden born 08 Sep 1790 in New Jersey may have died in 1860 in New > Jersey I know she was alive in 1850 and so was Content since I found both > their names on the 1850 Census. Mary Borden was married to John Rulon. I > believe that Mary and John had a daughter named Elizabeth but I am still > sorting out the other children. > > I hope this is clear I also have more information on children for the > Borden's. I've been told that my Borden's are connected to Sir Robert > Borden, Lizzie Borden and Gail Borden and prehaps the Borden's from > Bordentown, New Jersey the problem is I can't locate the parents of John > Borden to go any futher. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you > > Donna Borden > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail, with safety bar colour coding, helps identify > suspicious mail before it takes your daughter out on a date. Upgrade today > for a better look. www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA152 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:04 EDT > From: LITTLEWHTDOVE@aol.com > Subject: Re: [BORDEN] John and Joseph Borden > To: borden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c08.1a2a6e75.33a01200@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS FAMILY MY UNCLE JOE BORDEN WAS A PILOTTE BUT > CHANGED HIS NAME TO BORDEN FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES > > LUVYA AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:23:24 -0500 > From: "Theron L. Smith" <tl2smith@flash.net> > Subject: Re: [BORDEN] John and Joseph Borden > To: <borden@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000801c7ad16$8f94ae00$4101a8c0@Lavon> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Donna Borden wrote: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:01 AM > "I am looking for information on a John Borden abt 1763 he married Content > Clayton abt 1764 . They were married in Burlington, New Jersey 13 Jan > 1783." > > The NJ and PA references plus an obvious Quaker scenario for your Bordens > would auger in favor of a descent from the well known Quakers, > Richard Borden and Joan Fowle of Portsmouth, RI?. I have much descendency > data on them , including Hattie Borden Weld's exhaustive 1899 book, but no > reference to your folks. Have you looked at the exhaustive Quaker records > of > NJ and PA? > > "I hope this is clear I also have more information on children for the > Borden's. I've been told that my Borden's are connected to Sir Robert > Borden, Lizzie Borden and Gail Borden and perhaps the Borden's from > Bordentown, New Jersey, The problem is I can't locate the parents of John > Borden to go any further. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you." > > Your list of four connections has been validated as being from Richard and > Joan. You can add the following to the documented notable descendants of > Richard Borden and Joan Fowle: Winston Churchill [via his American mother, > Jennie Jerome]; Tennessee Williams; Ellen Borden [one time wife of 1952/56 > presidential candidate, Adlai Stevenson]; Frances Folsom, wife of Grover > Cleveland; actress Marilyn Monroe [via her apparent biological father]; > actress Lana Turner; and musician Willie Nelson. I am from Benjamin > Borden, > son of Richard and Joan. > > Theron Smith > 7-great grandson of Richard and Joan Fowle Borden via maternal lines > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:58:54 -0400 > From: "Phoebe Webb" <pwebb94@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BORDEN] John and Joseph Borden > To: borden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <BAY142-F257DDA3A19E91AA7460BF3A0190@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > Hi Theron: Thanks for you reply, no I didn't check the Quaker records for > NJ or PA yet but thats my next step. Yes from what I can see they were > Quakers for sure. The names Richard Borden and Joan Fowle have come up > during my search however I don't see the connection yet the name Benjamin > has also come up from another Borden I have connected with in Ottawa, > Ontario he seems to recall the names. Thanks for the info I'll follow up > on > it, it can't hurt to look through the records for Richard and Joan futher. > Donna > > >>From: "Theron L. Smith" <tl2smith@flash.net> >>Reply-To: borden@rootsweb.com >>To: <borden@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [BORDEN] John and Joseph Borden >>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:23:24 -0500 >> >>Donna Borden wrote: >>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:01 AM >>"I am looking for information on a John Borden abt 1763 he married Content >>Clayton abt 1764 . They were married in Burlington, New Jersey 13 Jan >>1783." >> >>The NJ and PA references plus an obvious Quaker scenario for your Bordens >>would auger in favor of a descent from the well known Quakers, >>Richard Borden and Joan Fowle of Portsmouth, RI?. I have much descendency >>data on them , including Hattie Borden Weld's exhaustive 1899 book, but no >>reference to your folks. Have you looked at the exhaustive Quaker records >>of >>NJ and PA? >> >>"I hope this is clear I also have more information on children for the >>Borden's. I've been told that my Borden's are connected to Sir Robert >>Borden, Lizzie Borden and Gail Borden and perhaps the Borden's from >>Bordentown, New Jersey, The problem is I can't locate the parents of John >>Borden to go any further. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you." >> >>Your list of four connections has been validated as being from Richard and >>Joan. You can add the following to the documented notable descendants of >>Richard Borden and Joan Fowle: Winston Churchill [via his American mother, >>Jennie Jerome]; Tennessee Williams; Ellen Borden [one time wife of 1952/56 >>presidential candidate, Adlai Stevenson]; Frances Folsom, wife of Grover >>Cleveland; actress Marilyn Monroe [via her apparent biological father]; >>actress Lana Turner; and musician Willie Nelson. I am from Benjamin >>Borden, >>son of Richard and Joan. >> >>Theron Smith >>7-great grandson of Richard and Joan Fowle Borden via maternal lines >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BORDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail is the next generation of MSN Hotmail. It's fast, > simple, and safer than ever and best of all - it's still free. 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