Hi Pam You are right of course-sorry)-: the four children are probably from the first wife. Matthew's marriage to Eleanor TAYLOR is not in my records till now ,so that was a good addition (-:Also I Have just Joane as his second wife ,no surname. Do you have Matthew's children? I have 9 of them with some dates if you would like them? Regards. May -- May Leslie at Whangarei NZ mayles@xtra.co.nz