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    1. [BONNER] Benjamin Bonner (04 FEB 1751/52 - 29 JUL 1814) and Thomas Bonner (ABT. 1744 - 30 DEC 1804)
    2. Bonner, Gregg
    3. Hi Folks, I have a couple of questions that I would like to pose to the list. I am concerned that I am making BONNER lines merge because of the DNA results (and what I see at WorldConnect) - but the DNA results can only be interpreted conclusively in light of solid paper genealogy. So I want to break out of this "circular reasoning" and try to figure out what is really known more or less for certain. So here are my questions: 1. If I look at WorldConnect for a Benjamin Bonner, born within one year of 1751, I get 10 hits. They all seem to be the same person. But the birth dates are different. They are predominantly either "02 APR" or "04 FEB". This appears to be the ambiguous pair of dates which can both be represented by "2/4" (similar to "8/11" being able to represent both 08 NOV and 11 AUG). I also note that the year is given as "1750", "1751/1752", or "1752". This seems to be the product of various representations of the 'double-dated' 04 FEB 1751/52. So it would seem that ALL the various dates can stem from an original 04 FEB 1751/52 date (e.g., the year 1751 OR 1752 can be extracted from 1751/52, and an entry into software program of 04 FEB 1751 will lead to "04 FEB 1750/51", from which '1750' can be extracted). So my first question is - where does this date come from? Is it a family Bible, tombstone, pension application, or what? I also note that WorldConnect shows him married to Frances Dempsey or else Mary Jennett, and it would seem that these are different Benjamin BONNERs. If it is the case that there are two of them, then what is the birthdate of the one that is NOT born 04 FEB 1751/52? And since one of them seems to be the son of Thomas Bonner and Sarah Peyton, then who is thought to be the parents of the other one? 2. Another line is that of Jordan BONNER (ABT. 1768 - 08 MAY 1841). His father is said to be Thomas Bonner (ABT. 1744 - 30 DEC 1804). For the moment, I don't really have any difficulty with that. Thomas BONNER is said to be the son of Henry Bonner and Sarah Luten. Again, I don't have difficulty believing Henry and Sarah had a son named Thomas. My question is this - how is it know that Thomas BONNER, son of Henry Bonner, is the same person as Thomas BONNER, the father of Jordan BONNER? Was Thomas Bonner found to have deeded property described in the will of Henry BONNER? The point is that these two lines have the same DNA, and I am trying to figure out why. The common link between the two lines seems must have occured at least early enough for the common ancestor to have had a grandson born 1771. Since it seems like Bryant BONNER was the administrator of the estate of Dempsey Bonner, then maybe this line is from the BONNER line which married Abigail Bryant. Is it for some reason impossible for Thomas BONNER, the father of Jordan BONNER to have descended from the Thomas BONNER who married Abigail Bryant? I had previously described a link for both lines (Jordan and Dempsey) to Henry Bonner, but upon further investigation, it seems to me that the evidence is very weak, or even contradicted, and that the common ancestor could be Thomas BONNER, b. 1690, or most any BONNER alive early enough. I think they must have a findable American common ancestor. I cannot say who it is, except to say who it canNOT be. And of course, I would like help with all the spouses as well. Cheers, Gregg

    06/16/2003 09:07:41