Hi Folks, We have had another DNA result come in. This time it was what I call type "C" BONNER DNA - so that makes three of those. As I understand it, there has been no good paper evidence to link the two of the type C samples to this third one, although I believe people have had their hunches about it. So my view is that this is a kind of success. I have not had a chance to talk with all three of the type C participants, so don't quote me on any of the above. I have updated the results table, and will update the network diagram later tonight. You can find those things here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gbonner/bonnerdna/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gbonner/bonnerdna/> I have my own bias in the project, of course, and one of my interests was to try to determine if there is a relationship between Henry Bonner (d. ABT. 1738) of North Carolina and "my" BONNER clan of Prince George County, Virginia. I claim the results thus far indicate that Henry Bonner would have been a type "C", or something very close to that. Therefore, I have done some simple calculations, and this is what I came up with: Assuming Dempsey Bonner, Sr. is gg-grandson of Henry Bonner, and Jordan Bonner is g-grandson of Henry Bonner, and assuming a typical 25 years per generation, and knowing the mutation rate of the Y-chromosome, and noting that there are at least 8 mutations between type "C" BONNER DNA (a la Jordan and Dempsey) and type "B" BONNER DNA (my type) = my common ancestor with Jordan Bonner and Dempsey Bonner lived circa 1,000 B.C. So I call that no relation. Our closest (non-identical) samples ("D" vs. "E") have a common ancestor more like 1,000 A.D. I would now really like to get some samples from descendants of the line of those John BONNERs who lived in Surrey/Sussex Counties, Virginia (viz., Albemarle Parish) in the very late 1600s and through at least the 1700s. ...And of course, the search continues on all fronts - more later, I am sure. Cheers :) Gregg Bonner BONNER Surname DNA Project Group Administrator