Ed Crabtree, Do you have any descendant info? I don't have information back that far yet? My oldest Bonner known to me so far was William Bonner b. 1795 Ky. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Crabtree" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: [BONNER] Thomas Sheriff of Beaufort Co born c1690 > Looking for info on Thomas Bonner, Sheriff of Beaufort Co.., NC born c1690, > died April 7, 1756 in Beaufort Co., NC married to ??Abigail Brian Bryant > Dawson?? > > Thanks, > Ed Crabtree > [email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Looking for info on Thomas Bonner, Sheriff of Beaufort Co.., NC born c1690, died April 7, 1756 in Beaufort Co., NC married to ??Abigail Brian Bryant Dawson?? Thanks, Ed Crabtree [email protected]

I am looking for Patti May Gilbert wife of Eddie G. Bonner in 1978 in Mc Lennan County Texas. Her father was Arthur Wesley Gilbert. Linda Bowden

Morris BOWERS served with his four brothers, George, James, Philemon and Thomas in Col. Armond's Corps in the Virginia Line under Gen. George Washington at Valley Forge during the Rev. war. Morris was a fifer. Looking for parents and family of Esther BONNER, c.1738-91, wife of Morris Bowers, 1735-81, Rev. soldier, fought with Washington at Valley Forge, both born in Middlesex Co.,VA, mar. Apr 6, 1759 in Sussex Co, VA. Morris died in James City Co.,VA . Several children went to GA. One dau.,Elizabeth, married Elisha Walker in VA, went to GA, where he fought in the Rev. and was given land in Washington Co., GA (now part of Johnson Co.,GA) where both are buried. Esther is my gggg grandmother. Are you related to the Bowers brothers or Esther Bonner?

Marcus D. Bonner b England or NY & his wife Eliza Donald b NY. Lived in Vineland, Cumberland Co., NJ when their daughter Josephine Florence Bonner, b NY 9 Jun 1854, married 21 Aug 1879 in Vineland, to George Kelly Gentry b 23 Apr 1855 NJ d 20 Feb 1931, Mt. Kisco, Westchester Co., NY, s/o Casper H. & Ann (Hartman) Gentry. Marcus D. & Eliza (Donald) Bonner were in Salem Co., NJ for the 1880 USC and moved to Northport, Suffolk Co., NY sometime after. Any info on any of these families would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave

This is for Peggy Tripp Workman and anyone else who might be able to answer the questions. I searched the Bonner archives and found a will for James Bonner - 1782 *thanks Peggy*. In this will James mentions a daughter Anna; he also mentions leaving some land to his son Henry that adjoins some land of Mr. Peter Floyd. My question is - Is James' daughter Anna married to this Peter Floyd? I also found a will for a John B. Bonner - 1871, *again thank you Peggy*. Is this John a brother to James? Thanks ... Ed Crabtree - KCMO [email protected] (previously [email protected]) http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/r/a/Edward-W-Crabtree-MO/

In a message dated 7/25/2002 6:51:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I did not mean to imply that there were ONLY two derivatives of the name. I > think I had said that there were "at least two distinct 'populations' that > use the surname, Bonner." My research has focused on my Irish Catholic > population of Bonner's, so my comments and explanation were largely geared > towards my research orientation. My apologies if I have slighted anyone. > > Neil; No apologies necessary. I did not take offence. I was only adding my two cents worth to the mix. I found it interesting to learn more origins of the Bonner name. I wondered why I kept seeing that more Bonners seemed to come from England. So far I have not found any listed as French. Sandy Williams

My Bonner/Boners came from PA. born in 1805. George C. Bonner came to Thibodaux, LA. at about age 15 and there he married Elizabeth White on Jan. 7, 1830. He and Elizabeth died in New Orleans, La. but were buried in Thibodaux in the cemetery at the Episcopal Church. They had 12 known children and possibly 16. There are many of us descended from them and have all gotten back to the same place and time. George's parents were John Bonner and Bridget Crossman. Elizabeth's parents were John White and Vashti Church. John White and Vashti Church were married on Nov. 28,1805 in Clermont County, Ohio. All of us researching this line would love to get further back. Any info would be helpful. Thanks, Richalyn

At 07:00 AM 7/25/02 -0600, you wrote: >Dear List Readers, > >I thought this above information to be very interesting but the writer has >left out a large number of Bonners that have their origins in Germany, >Austria, and a few in Switzerland. The word "Bonner" translates to mean a >person from Bonn which is a large city in Germany and for a long time was its >capital seat. > >Judy Martin <[email protected]> > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:21:30 EDT >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BONNER] Re: Origins of the BONNER Name >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Our Bonner line we believe may have come from the French Surname Bonaire. My >grandmother's people were French Canadian. My grandmother said her father >could speak French. She said her grandfather spelled his last name Boner. >Nobody knows for sure. > >Sandy Williams Dear Judy, Sandy and List Readers, Yes! You are most certainly correct! For example, in Philadelphia the "early" arrivals to that city whom carried the Bonner surname were mostly German. They arrived in the 1700's and early 1800's. I have also seen references to the French surname Bonaire becoming BONNER in English speaking countries. I did not mean to imply that there were ONLY two derivatives of the name. I think I had said that there were "at least two distinct 'populations' that use the surname, Bonner." My research has focused on my Irish Catholic population of Bonner's, so my comments and explanation were largely geared towards my research orientation. My apologies if I have slighted anyone. Getting back to Gregg Bonner's post of a few days ago regarding DNA testing of BONNER's; I suspect when enough Bonner's in the USA are tested we will find several different lines of Bonner's: Gaelic/Celtic, English/Scott, German/Austrian, French, and perhaps others that we are overlooking. So... Get yourselves DNA tested so we can map out the Bonner name! :) Best Regards, Neil Bonner

I make this comment only because Neil mentioned another origin. I believe some Bonners will find that their Bonner line goes back to the name "Riddell". In at least this one case, the name "Bonner" was chosen specifically as a surname derivative, and for some time the two names should have been synonymous. Cheers, Gregg -----Original Message----- From: Neil Bonner To: [email protected] Sent: 7/23/02 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [BONNER] Banner (Bonner???) June, My research into the Bonner name reveals that BONNER, BONER, BANNER all refer to the same "line" or population. Before the 20th Century most names were spelt phonetically. I have numerous examples of the Bonner's in Philadelphia during the nineteenth century with the name spelt in a number of different variations. In legal documents it may have been written as, BONER, and several years later, BONNER, and then possibly BANNER. As the immigrants married and had children, these children were schooled and became literate. Once they were able to read and write, the amount of variation in the spelling was greatly reduced. Also with the increase in secular record keeping (state birth records) things became more standardized. At least for the Irish Catholic population, BONER was the 'standard' way our surname was spelled in Ireland from the late 1600's to present. In the "Primary Valuation Property Survey of 1846 - 1864" in Ireland, here are the variant spellings for all of the households surveyed: BONER 209, BONAR 46, BONNER 17, BONNAR 3, BONOR 3. It's my opinion that since BONNER "sounds" better than BONER, BONNER became the preferred surname of choice in the United States. Also, these names (BONNER, BONER) are the Anglicized versions. The original Irish was "Ua Chnámhsighe". Quoting from the Irish historian, Brian Bonner, in his article entitled, "Clann Chnámhsighe: A Donegal Sept" he writes: "In the process of the Anglicisation of Gaelic surnames the name, Ua Chnámhsighe, was given a number of variants depending on an arbitrary dropping of "Ua" and making the rest of the name conformable to easy pronunciation according to English phonetics one agent wrote CRAMPSEY, changed by some to CRAMSIE, etc... Another official based his form on the word "cnámh" a bone and recorded the name as BONNER with its variants of BONER, BONNAR and BONAR. There is also a surname BONNER in England and Scotland deriving from a totally different stem." [Brian Bonner, "Clann Chnámhsighe: A Donegal Sept", Donegal Annual, periodical no. 3, 1979, p. 392.] This same article relates an ancient folklore tradition of how the name originally arises and geographically where it was found. All very interesting. I hope I have not gone on too much in answering your original query. Best Regards, Neil Bonner

There is also a line of Bonners who came from John BONNER, and englishman who settled first in Vermont and then in Remson, Oneida Co., NY. A History of the town has the following paragraph:"In 1795 three more families came into town; these were John Bonner, Barnabas Mitchell and Amos Bull. Mr. Bonner was an Englishman, but came in from Vermont and settled on the lot afterwards owned by Jenkin Jones; later he moved west. Mr. Mitchell settled on land afterwards owned by his son Milo Mitchell, and his daughter Polly, who became Mrs. Van Slyke, was the first white child born in the town. Amos Bull settled on the tract which was long known as Bull's Commons, and later as the Camp farm; discouraged with the land and his prospects he removed to Floyd, where he died." I believe this John had 4 or 5 sons, each had rather large families as well. Cheryl Higgins ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: [BONNER] Re: Origins of the BONNER Name > In a message dated 7/23/02 2:00:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Through my research of Bonner's I believe that there are at least two > distinct 'populations' that use the surname, Bonner. > > One line has its origins in the Irish Catholic population that is > originally from County Donegal, Ireland. Many of them poor and illiterate, > left Ireland in the nineteenth century and settled near large northern > cities such as Philadelphia. In Philadelphia for example, the vast majority > of Bonner's are descendant from Irish Catholics. [This is where my line > comes from]. > > There is at least another population that came from Scotland (including the > so called, Scotch-Irish) and/or England. These folks were largely from the > Protestant faith. In this latter population my research in the Bonner > surname suggests that many of the Protestant Bonner's settled into the > southern United States during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. It's > my opinion that this Bonner population has no "blood relation" to the Irish > Catholic one mentioned above >> > > > Dear List Readers, > > I thought this above information to be very interesting but the writer has > left out a large number of Bonners that have their origins in Germany, > Austria, and a few in Switzerland. The word "Bonner" translates to mean a > person from Bonn which is a large city in Germany and for a long time was its > capital seat. > > Judy Martin <[email protected]> >

Our Bonner line we believe may have come from the French Surname Bonaire. My grandmother's people were French Canadian. My grandmother said her father could speak French. She said her grandfather spelled his last name Boner. Nobody knows for sure. Sandy Williams

In a message dated 7/23/02 2:00:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Through my research of Bonner's I believe that there are at least two distinct 'populations' that use the surname, Bonner. One line has its origins in the Irish Catholic population that is originally from County Donegal, Ireland. Many of them poor and illiterate, left Ireland in the nineteenth century and settled near large northern cities such as Philadelphia. In Philadelphia for example, the vast majority of Bonner's are descendant from Irish Catholics. [This is where my line comes from]. There is at least another population that came from Scotland (including the so called, Scotch-Irish) and/or England. These folks were largely from the Protestant faith. In this latter population my research in the Bonner surname suggests that many of the Protestant Bonner's settled into the southern United States during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. It's my opinion that this Bonner population has no "blood relation" to the Irish Catholic one mentioned above >> Dear List Readers, I thought this above information to be very interesting but the writer has left out a large number of Bonners that have their origins in Germany, Austria, and a few in Switzerland. The word "Bonner" translates to mean a person from Bonn which is a large city in Germany and for a long time was its capital seat. Judy Martin <[email protected]>

Dear Neil: Thank you so very much for the complete Bonner/Boner/Bonar/Banner "101". I would say someone has certainly done their research. Now, I will focus my attention to these various derivatives in hope of finding my elusive great-grandfather, David Gordon Banner from Pennsylvania. Have a ggg-great day. June

June, My research into the Bonner name reveals that BONNER, BONER, BANNER all refer to the same "line" or population. Before the 20th Century most names were spelt phonetically. I have numerous examples of the Bonner's in Philadelphia during the nineteenth century with the name spelt in a number of different variations. In legal documents it may have been written as, BONER, and several years later, BONNER, and then possibly BANNER. As the immigrants married and had children, these children were schooled and became literate. Once they were able to read and write, the amount of variation in the spelling was greatly reduced. Also with the increase in secular record keeping (state birth records) things became more standardized. At least for the Irish Catholic population, BONER was the 'standard' way our surname was spelled in Ireland from the late 1600's to present. In the "Primary Valuation Property Survey of 1846 - 1864" in Ireland, here are the variant spellings for all of the households surveyed: BONER 209, BONAR 46, BONNER 17, BONNAR 3, BONOR 3. It's my opinion that since BONNER "sounds" better than BONER, BONNER became the preferred surname of choice in the United States. Also, these names (BONNER, BONER) are the Anglicized versions. The original Irish was "Ua Chnámhsighe". Quoting from the Irish historian, Brian Bonner, in his article entitled, "Clann Chnámhsighe: A Donegal Sept" he writes: "In the process of the Anglicisation of Gaelic surnames the name, Ua Chnámhsighe, was given a number of variants depending on an arbitrary dropping of "Ua" and making the rest of the name conformable to easy pronunciation according to English phonetics one agent wrote CRAMPSEY, changed by some to CRAMSIE, etc... Another official based his form on the word "cnámh" a bone and recorded the name as BONNER with its variants of BONER, BONNAR and BONAR. There is also a surname BONNER in England and Scotland deriving from a totally different stem." [Brian Bonner, "Clann Chnámhsighe: A Donegal Sept", Donegal Annual, periodical no. 3, 1979, p. 392.] This same article relates an ancient folklore tradition of how the name originally arises and geographically where it was found. All very interesting. I hope I have not gone on too much in answering your original query. Best Regards, Neil Bonner

Hello All: I have a good question.....has anyone on this list found that the name Bonner changed to Banner? I have Banner relatives; but cannot find their origin. Wondering if perhaps they were originally Bonner? Any other Banner/Bonner relatives? Thank you...... June Banner Semer

please remove my email address from your list - there are no Bonners here -----Original Message----- From: Neil Bonner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BONNER] Bonner DNA Y-Chromosome Project At 11:00 PM 7/21/02 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 06:11:56 -0400 >From: "Bonner, Gregg" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: ><[email protected]du> >Subject: [BONNER] Bonner DNA Y-Chromosome Project >Content-Type: text/plain > >Dear List, > >I have intention of starting a BONNER Y-Chromosome Genealogy Project. I see >a bunch of what seem to be different lines, but with the feeling that they >are all closely related. > >In particular, I would like to test descendants along the all-male line of >at least the following: [snip] Hi Gregg, I think we have chatted via email about "Bonner DNA" in the past. I would be willing to participate and contribute where I can. Last year I had myself and a suspected long-lost cousin tested to see if the two of us Bonner's were related. We went with FamilyTree DNA, and they found that we were an exact match (share a most recent common ancestor). Through my research of Bonner's I believe that there are at least two distinct 'populations' that use the surname, Bonner. One line has its origins in the Irish Catholic population that is originally from County Donegal, Ireland. Many of them poor and illiterate, left Ireland in the nineteenth century and settled near large northern cities such as Philadelphia. In Philadelphia for example, the vast majority of Bonner's are descendant from Irish Catholics. [This is where my line comes from]. There is at least another population that came from Scotland (including the so called, Scotch-Irish) and/or England. These folks were largely from the Protestant faith. In this latter population my research in the Bonner surname suggests that many of the Protestant Bonner's settled into the southern United States during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. It's my opinion that this Bonner population has no "blood relation" to the Irish Catholic one mentioned above. Of course this is why a Bonner DNA project can be so valuable, to prove or disprove certain assumptions. If you decide to use FamilyTree DNA as the company to do the DNA testing I would be happy to provide my results. Actually, I have the Loci designations so it's probably not critical that you use the same company. Hopefully, more male Bonner's will be tested and we can get to the bottom of the origins of the Bonner surname. Best Regards, Neil Bonner

At 11:00 PM 7/21/02 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 06:11:56 -0400 >From: "Bonner, Gregg" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: ><[email protected]du> >Subject: [BONNER] Bonner DNA Y-Chromosome Project >Content-Type: text/plain > >Dear List, > >I have intention of starting a BONNER Y-Chromosome Genealogy Project. I see >a bunch of what seem to be different lines, but with the feeling that they >are all closely related. > >In particular, I would like to test descendants along the all-male line of >at least the following: [snip] Hi Gregg, I think we have chatted via email about "Bonner DNA" in the past. I would be willing to participate and contribute where I can. Last year I had myself and a suspected long-lost cousin tested to see if the two of us Bonner's were related. We went with FamilyTree DNA, and they found that we were an exact match (share a most recent common ancestor). Through my research of Bonner's I believe that there are at least two distinct 'populations' that use the surname, Bonner. One line has its origins in the Irish Catholic population that is originally from County Donegal, Ireland. Many of them poor and illiterate, left Ireland in the nineteenth century and settled near large northern cities such as Philadelphia. In Philadelphia for example, the vast majority of Bonner's are descendant from Irish Catholics. [This is where my line comes from]. There is at least another population that came from Scotland (including the so called, Scotch-Irish) and/or England. These folks were largely from the Protestant faith. In this latter population my research in the Bonner surname suggests that many of the Protestant Bonner's settled into the southern United States during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. It's my opinion that this Bonner population has no "blood relation" to the Irish Catholic one mentioned above. Of course this is why a Bonner DNA project can be so valuable, to prove or disprove certain assumptions. If you decide to use FamilyTree DNA as the company to do the DNA testing I would be happy to provide my results. Actually, I have the Loci designations so it's probably not critical that you use the same company. Hopefully, more male Bonner's will be tested and we can get to the bottom of the origins of the Bonner surname. Best Regards, Neil Bonner

Unknown Bonner married unknown ____, 3 kids: 1. Martha J. Bonner (b. ABT. 1839) m. John Pinckney Barrett, and had at least 2 kids (Anna and John P., Jr.); 2. Matilda Bonner (b. ABT. 1850); 3. William Bonner (b. ABT. 1855). So assuming no multiple marriages, the ~1839 birth means the mother could not have been born much later than 1824 or so, and the 1855 birth means not much earlier than 1810. So let's split it and call it 1817. This is Ohio County, Kentucky Ohio Co., KY Cheers, Gregg -----Original Message----- From: DSkrable To: [email protected] Sent: 7/21/02 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [BONNER] Bonner DNA Y-Chromosome Project (John Robert Bonner) My ggg g'pa is William Bonner, b., 1795, KY, wife unknown. William's children known to me: Thomas Jefferson Bonner, b., 1831 MO., m., Sarah Green, 8/30/1850. Francis Bonner, male, b., 1835, ILL. Elisabeth Bonner, b., 1836, ILL. Susan Bonner, b., 1838, ILL. All this is info gleaned from 1850 Census, Jackson co., ILL. The only one I have any other (positive) info on is my gg g'ma Sarah Green Bonner. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonner, Gregg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [BONNER] Bonner DNA Y-Chromosome Project (John Robert Bonner) > Hi Kathy, > > You wrote: > > (1) John Robert Bonner of Kentucky born about 1800 not sure but a strong > possibility this was his full name. Wife Unknown > (1) Jim Bonner who owned a Big Plantation in Virginia. (All I know) > (2) Newton Bonner --Born Jan 1821 in Kentucky This is the story of > > [snip] > > Any of my Bonner line connected to the four in the DNA message (William > Bonner, b. ABT. 1730; Thomas Bonner, who m. Mary Heath and also m. Jane > Green; Col. Henry Bonner, who m. Nancy Ann Cate; and John Bonner, who m. > Sarah Hicks)? > > My answer: > > This is why I suggest the project - you just never know. If we already knew > all the connections, there would be no point to the DNA analysis. I would > say that since your earliest (shown) Bonner is born 1800, then he could be > descendended from any one of those four. > > Cheers, > > Gregg > P.S. I also have Bonner cousins in KY. They are related to Thomas Jefferson > Barrett. I don't know how those Bonners fit in either.

My ggg g'pa is William Bonner, b., 1795, KY, wife unknown. William's children known to me: Thomas Jefferson Bonner, b., 1831 MO., m., Sarah Green, 8/30/1850. Francis Bonner, male, b., 1835, ILL. Elisabeth Bonner, b., 1836, ILL. Susan Bonner, b., 1838, ILL. All this is info gleaned from 1850 Census, Jackson co., ILL. The only one I have any other (positive) info on is my gg g'ma Sarah Green Bonner. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonner, Gregg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [BONNER] Bonner DNA Y-Chromosome Project (John Robert Bonner) > Hi Kathy, > > You wrote: > > (1) John Robert Bonner of Kentucky born about 1800 not sure but a strong > possibility this was his full name. Wife Unknown > (1) Jim Bonner who owned a Big Plantation in Virginia. (All I know) > (2) Newton Bonner --Born Jan 1821 in Kentucky This is the story of > > [snip] > > Any of my Bonner line connected to the four in the DNA message (William > Bonner, b. ABT. 1730; Thomas Bonner, who m. Mary Heath and also m. Jane > Green; Col. Henry Bonner, who m. Nancy Ann Cate; and John Bonner, who m. > Sarah Hicks)? > > My answer: > > This is why I suggest the project - you just never know. If we already knew > all the connections, there would be no point to the DNA analysis. I would > say that since your earliest (shown) Bonner is born 1800, then he could be > descendended from any one of those four. > > Cheers, > > Gregg > P.S. I also have Bonner cousins in KY. They are related to Thomas Jefferson > Barrett. I don't know how those Bonners fit in either.