--WebTV-Mail-20645-654 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit VERY interesting story here.... Edward --WebTV-Mail-20645-654 X-URL-Title: http://www.wwd.net/users/historical/black/folklore4.html Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://www.wwd.net/users/historical/black/folklore4.html --WebTV-Mail-20645-654--

--WebTV-Mail-22899-521 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Guys....you might want to check out this page....this is where I found the Boggs on the taxation list. (Ireland) Edward --WebTV-Mail-22899-521 X-URL-Title: Some Donegal Sources Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://members.aol.com/lochlan2/donsourc.htm --WebTV-Mail-22899-521--

--WebTV-Mail-18461-1025 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit All Boggs' should check out this page... There are quite a few Boggs listed here..I believe, in Ireland 1665. Listed there are: Barony of Enedrowen John Boggs of Ballinakilly Templemore Parish Killigarnan Parish William Boggs of Ramullen Francis Boggs " " Andrew Boggs " " Tullagh Ferne Parish John Boggs of Parker Barony of Raphoe Taghboyne Parish James Boggs of Monglass James Boggs Jr. " " John Boggs " " * from attached page.... Edward --WebTV-Mail-18461-1025 X-URL-Title: Hearth Money Rolls 1665 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://members.aol.com/lochlan2/donega10.htm --WebTV-Mail-18461-1025--

You are quite welcome Marsha....I believe in exploring every avenue of possiblities My father passed down to us being Cherokee and Black Dutch (which was often used as a "cover" for N/A blood Edward

Here is that excerpt from Richard Pangburn's book; "Indian Blood". : BOGGS, BOGS, BAUGS, BOGGAS etc.- A Cherokee name. John Boggs was a trader among the Cherokees and he served as an emissary during border conflicts. Boggs informed Gov. William Blunt in 1792 of the impending attack of the Creeks (with John Watts and a party of Cherokees) against the encroaching white settlements. "Bogs (sic) is a half-breed, well known to many white people, and by all parties viewed as a man of veracity". see COVSP, vol 6 p.115,116 In 1793, John Boggs ran the ferry for the prominent Cherokee, Turtle-at-home, village chief at the Running Water Town. Boggs fell in love with his daughter, Tsi-yah-ney-naw. Perhaps due to them, the Boggs surname is now common in mainstream Americans who have the Cherokee princess tradition. See Holmes, pp. 62-63. Listed on the 1835 Cherokee Census was the household of Robert Boggs, living in Creek Path, Alabama, and consisting of one halfbreed and eight mixed Catawbas. The Boggas household of six Cherokees living on Lookout Creek in Georgia included one quarterblood. Listed on the 1835 Cherokee Census of Tennessee was the large family of John Boggs consisting of fourteen Cherokees. Their farm was on Candy's Creek in McMinn County. See Tyner, pp. 6, 100, 171. Lucinda Boggs who married Azzel Blevins from Carter County, Kentucky was traditionally a Cherokee, as was her Husband. INDIAN BLOOD II Further adventures in finding your Native American Ancestors Vol II by Richard Pangburn Isbn # 1-884532-05-5 Butler Books Louisville, Ky. 1996

Edward Thank-you so much for all this incredibly interesting information. Hopefully soon I will be able to search into this more closely. I'm descended from James Boggs >Francis>James>Charles>John>Josiah Clendennin Bogggs married Louisa Lemaster. Thank-you for all your hard work and for sharing it. Marsha --- Edward Boggs <MrGroundHogg@webtv.net> wrote: > Here is that excerpt from Richard Pangburn's book; > "Indian Blood". : > > BOGGS, BOGS, BAUGS, BOGGAS etc.- > A Cherokee name. > > John Boggs was a trader among the Cherokees and he > served as an emissary > during border conflicts. > Boggs informed Gov. William Blunt in 1792 of the > impending attack of the > Creeks (with John Watts and a party of Cherokees) > against the > encroaching white settlements. "Bogs (sic) is a > half-breed, well known > to many white people, and by all parties viewed as a > man of veracity". > see COVSP, vol 6 p.115,116 > > In 1793, John Boggs ran the ferry for the prominent > Cherokee, > Turtle-at-home, village chief at the Running Water > Town. Boggs fell in > love with his daughter, Tsi-yah-ney-naw. Perhaps > due to them, the Boggs > surname is now common in mainstream Americans who > have the Cherokee > princess tradition. See Holmes, pp. 62-63. > > Listed on the 1835 Cherokee Census was the household > of Robert Boggs, > living in Creek Path, Alabama, and consisting of one > halfbreed and eight > mixed Catawbas. > The Boggas household of six Cherokees living on > Lookout Creek in Georgia > included one quarterblood. > > Listed on the 1835 Cherokee Census of Tennessee > was the large > family of John Boggs consisting of fourteen > Cherokees. > Their farm was on Candy's Creek in McMinn County. > See Tyner, pp. 6, > 100, 171. > Lucinda Boggs who married Azzel Blevins from > Carter County, > Kentucky was traditionally a Cherokee, as was her > Husband. > INDIAN BLOOD II > Further adventures in finding your Native American > Ancestors Vol II > by Richard Pangburn > Isbn # 1-884532-05-5 > Butler Books > Louisville, Ky. > 1996 > > > ==== BOGGS Mailing List ==== > Remember to enter the name (date and place, if > known) in the subject line of your message so our > BOGGS archives will be easier to search! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

Robert Cunningham has added a picture of Nancy Boggs Ferguson and her husband, George W. Ferguson to the Boggs' family album on Photopoint. Robert included the following information: "Nancy was a daughter of James H. Boggs and Matilda Lyons and sister of Lewis Franklin Boggs. George and Nancy moved to the state of Washington around the turn of the century. Both died at a fairly young age and were buried in the Northwest. Nancy was born in 1874 and died in 1916. George was born in 1874 and died in 1922." Thanks for sharing another photo with all of us Robert. The URL for the Photopoint album is: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=573222 scroll down the page to Boggs Family. Happy Holidays to everyone! Sharon McKenzie

Sorry List...didn't know that we could not send a Jpeg of a letter to the list....that is why all the Gobbledygook showed up on my last e-mail.....guess 'll have to type it in word for word. Thanks for your patience. Edward G. Boggs

Here is the portion of an article which I sent the list....(it only shows the relevent Boggs part.... Apalachicola Creek Indians permanently settled Calhoun County in 1815; wars forced them ot of Alabama. A new tribal town was built by Chief Tuskie Hajo Cochrane between Old River and Noble Lake. Cochrane is an Anglicized version of his Creek name Corakko, pronounced "Cho'thlakko", which means Horse. The 1823 Treaty of Moutrie Creek recognized Cochranetown with it's 100 families as part of the Blunt-Tuskie Hajo Reservation,now called Blountstown. The 1832 Treaty of Payne's Landing compelled local Creeks to emigrate to Texas with Chief John Blunt. Tuskie Hajo Cochrane's daughter, Polly Parrot refused to go. Her clan fled northward to a Calhoun County wilderness called Boska Bokga, (the last place of fasting". The Bokga's people became known as the Boggs family. Many Calhoun citizens descend from Polly's clan. In 1986, Florida Tribe of Eastern Creek Indians whose members include the Boggs Clan was recognized by the state. Today they still maintain their ancient traditions. Their unbroken line of titled Chiefs is Tuskie Hajo Cochrane- 1832, Polly Parrot, Regent Matriarch 1833-1898, Tuskie Hajo James Daniel Boggs- 1920, Alice McClellan Boggs, Regent Matriarch 1933- 1961, Tuskie Mahaya Hajo Dr. Andrew Boggs Ramsey-1962. The Tuskie Hajo (Zealous Warriors) all descend from Polly. Cochranetown is 3 miles south of here, east of SR69.

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--WebTV-Mail-4847-3499 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit James, Robert, and John Boggs on a Tax list here... --WebTV-Mail-4847-3499 X-URL-Title: Col. John Holder Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://home.att.net/~CLIMAX.SPRINGS/Col_John_Holder.html --WebTV-Mail-4847-3499--

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Some documents sent to me concerning the Boggs Indian connection...(Also a suprising Livingston story I have never heard....things that make you go h-m-m-m) 1. Indian Rolls Cherokee Roots by Bob...? Recieved from Mildred Queen Tribe Enrollment Officer Eastern Band of Cherokees Cherokee, N.C. John Boggs - Candy's Creek, Tennessee All 14 members were full-blooded 2. 1907 Indian Rolls of The Five Civilized Tribes Polly Boggs - Roll number - 4887 age 17, female, full-blooded census # 1849 3. John Boggs' Indian name appears on "A List of the appr.....of Indian Improvements. No. 226 Tauchuluna or John Boggs, Ful Blood Land appraised for payment total 28.00 4. Tahlequah District Payments Drennan, 1851 151 John Boggs Polly Boggs Tarsequanyshkee recieved $278.49 5. Treaties between the United States of America and The Several Indian Tribes from 1778 to 1837 John Boggs signed the treaty January 6, 1817 (signed as an Indian) 6. Index to the 1835 Census of The Cherokee Indians of The Mississippi- Boggs, Jr. - 2 7. War of 1812 Captain John Brown's Company Colonel Gideon Morgan Jr's Regiment of Cherokees Sergt. John Boggs Suaggy Boggs Dick Boggs The Georgia Genealogical Society Quarterly Volume III series 3 March 1967 Part of Letter by Dr. Andrew Boggs Ramsey- I am quite confused about the information I read. Everyone appears to be white. We (Indian Boggs) too had a story about three Boggs brothers coming from across the sea, that we used to pass as white after Florida passed a law in 1853 making it against the law to be an Indian. (Note from Edward here...Perhaps so many of us have heard same 3 brothers fable in our families...that perhaps it was concocted in order to hide our roots, much like the Black Dutch or Black Irish cover...What do you think?) Their names were also Robert, John, and an adopted white man named William Livington who deserted from the British Army, and adopted the Boggs Indian name and was accepted as a brother. any help to clarify my confusion will be appreciated. Sincerely yours, (signed, Andrew Boggs Ramsey) Well guys...Edward here again....put your comments on the list, if you wish. (again I do NOT dispute the validity of there being Scot/Irish Boggs...this is quite evident...I am only presenting what documented evidence I have found on the apparent Indian Boggs' . Thanks for reading Maybe it was all so confusing before (the names, dates.etc..) because of this separate line of Boggs....maybe now some knots will begin to unravel....

I believe that the German Boggs is spelled Bogs

The Name Bogkas is Creek Indian . The K is sounded more like a glottled G. The resulting sounds more like Boggas or Boggus----hence Boggs.

Hello Edward Boggs: I'm trying to locate my grt grdfther/grt grdmther, this could be the answer to my questions, possibly I'm looking at the wrong spelling of the my last name, I am Paul A. Boggs Jr., my father was Paul A. Boggs, Sr. and his father was Robert Paul Boggs and his father was Paul Robert Boggs supposedly from Berlin, his wife Bertha Ella Lightfoot from Strausberg, I have no idea when they entered the country or where, I do have records from the NY Central RR of the papers my grdfther completed, but can locate nothing else. Thanks for any further info. Paul A. Boggs, Jr. Edward Boggs wrote: > The only thing I question in the article about Tuskie Hajo Cochrane is > the "Boska Bokga's" which appears to be Polish to me...and Hajo....isn't > that Swedish or German? Any language scholars out there? Edward > > ==== BOGGS Mailing List ==== > My ancestors can hide...but they can't run!

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Dear List, I solved the question of Marquez, Leon Co, TX. It was NOT Marguez. A simple trip to <maps on us> solved my question. I could still use confirmed data on the relationships of T. O. Boggs' & Kit Carson's wives. Regards, John Andrew Boggs.

The only thing I question in the article about Tuskie Hajo Cochrane is the "Boska Bokga's" which appears to be Polish to me...and Hajo....isn't that Swedish or German? Any language scholars out there? Edward