Edward- That's true about the blue skin, but, I was just kinda hoping that we could say the Boggs were true "blue bloods" (you know, in the royal sense) which sounds much more fun than just "Black Dutch"...can we make ourselves 'honorary' blue bloods? Or, Blue Blood Black Dutch? But here's a quandary; my father contends that the "Dutch" part would be the 'slang' for 'Deutsch', or, 'German'...and that they intermarried with the Indians. Also, even growing up in Washington State, he was told by his paternal grandmother (pure Scottish, not from the Boggs line) whenever she was mad at him, that he got his wild ways from his mothers' Indian side (Boggs/Ferguson) and, that he was 'Black Dutch'. Go figure. He never asked her what that meant, and, the Boggs aren't even german, so that leaves out the translation of Dutch=Deutsch. How will we ever figure this out? Can we all decide on a definition that we like, and 'vote that in', or, is that cheating? Pam Marks

Cousins, Many researchers are fascinated with Melungeon traits and heritage. There is a very good Gen-forum site and the readers seem to have lots of info about full-blooded Cherokees, Blue-skinned, Black Dutch & Irish, Native Ancessary, Free scholarships, Black Siminoles, and Etc. Of course you can subscirbe. It is: http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/melungeon/

Of course I may be wrong about the blue skinned people, as a melungeon "trait", I may just be ignorant of some info. about them. ( don't want you to think I'm a know it all, guys) thanxx-e.g.boggs.

melungeon's skin color can range from dark brown to copper- red to white. There was intermarriage to be considered as a factor.

"blue skin" condition is a medical one, and has nothing to do with melungeon inheritance.

Yes, we were always told we were cherokee and black dutch. But again remember, sometimes black dutch was a cover for native ancestry.

Hello again Here is the search page for Eastern Kentucky Cherokees. <A HREF="http://www.tngenweb.usit.com/cherokee_by_blood/miller.htm">Cherokee by Blood</A> . The Guion Miller Roll. It contains 46,000 names . Elva

Hello Here is an interesting web site in Tenn. List of Freedmen who were adopted trough the Dawes Commission between 1898-1916. You can also search through the original applications. These are the Black Indian Lists. Black Cherokees--Black Chickasaws--Black Seminoles--Black Creeks. I found four of my surnames on this list.------Elva <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/angelaw859/freename.html">Lists of Freedman Surnames</A>

Hi I am in need of some help. My great grandfather was WILLIAM M (Maritn) BOGGS. He married Rosetti STEELE. William was born in 1869 in West Virginia. His parents are unknown. But I did find two 1880 census that has William age 11 listed. Could someone help me figure out which is my line. Here are the records... N.M. Boggs Va Calhoun County age 39 Catherine W age 39 Atison 13 WVa Wm 11 " Leroy 6 " The other family is... Wm F 43 WVa Susanna 41 " Andrew 18 " Mary E. 13 " William 11 " Nancy J. 8 " James 22 " Could someone if they are apart of one of these families tell me who are the wives of the Williams who are 11. Thanks for you help. Grace O. Buckley Surnames: Boggs, Lavko, Westfall, Smith, Helmick, Steele, Bayless, Poole, Rodebaugh, DuVall, Potter, Russell, Foster, Saffles, Moses, Greenfield, Goff, Hitchcock, Keller, Gibson, Tidwell, Dillon, Buckley, Brand, Brown, Amos, Flinn, Eaton, Chappell, Fryor, Cross, McComas, Clark, Bussey, Mantle, Maulden. www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/u/c/Grace-O-Buckley/index.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I have found a good site that explains the Melungeon People and might help those who do not understand what they were. The site address is : http://www.bright.net/~kat/melung.htm. I have had several relatives who have been able to get special scholarships by using photos of some of Hugh Boggs's Family, (Elizabeth who married Allen Harper) saying that they were of Indian Heritage. I have always been told that the Boggs were "Black Dutch" and that there were Indian Heritage in the family. Mike Barker ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Pam~~ You're welcome! I lurk around alot, but every once in awhile I have something to offer that is of interest! :) I have never heard of anything like that[blue-skinned] in my Boggs line - and most of my family from that line is real dark haired with blue eyes....with a couple blondes and a redhead here and there! The Cherokee came from my Mamaw's side - Martha Foster Young who later married a Comer. Martha's mother was supposed to be a full-blooded Cherokee. No proof at this point. But that Black Dutch term sure hit the mark: I've heard that for years and no one in our family knew for sure what it meant! ~Diana in Ohio 'alias' Micromanxx

John, My Boggs also went back and forth from Wise Co,VA to Lawrence Co, KY. And I have always heard the Black Dutch lingo but no one knows what that meant. Cherokee seems to be the predominant story but that is NOT in my Boggs side.....don't know the answer here! My Boggs line is from Jimmy Lee Boggs>Oliver Carroll Boggs, Sr.>John L. Boggs>Jonathon Bishop Boggs>John M 'Fez" Boggs> Hugh Boggs, Sr> James L. Boggs > John Boggs Sr. from Scotland/Ireland. Is this familiar to you at all? Do our lines cross anywhere? I had never heard of Boggs as being a Melungeon name before. Let me know if there are common lines here. Thanks! ~Diana from Ohio

Cousins, Click on this URL to see a picture of my great grandparents. What ancestry do you think my great grandmother has? I would be interested in all your feedback. Her parents are Hadley BOHANNON, born c. 1837 in NC, and Caroline M. BAGWELL, born c. 1836 in NC. James F. Maggard's parents were James MAGGARD and Abigail BOGGS. We're really stumped on this one! Bev St. Louis <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/alshepbg/indexa.html">ALLEN'S GENEALOGY PAGE</A>

<A HREF="http://melungeons.com/2ndUnion/Photos/index.html">Photos - Second Union: A Melungeon Gathering - July 9-12, '98 - Wise, Virginia</A> <A HREF="http://melungeons.com/2ndUnion/2ndVoice.htm">OFFICIAL VOICE: 2nd Union Planning Committee, Media Information Sheet</A> Elva

>From what I have read and been told, the Blue Fugates were that way because of intermarriage. There was a lot of that with the Fugates. My Combs line, grandmother, Nora Mae Combs, was from that line of Fugates. However, we did not get any of the blue. Paul S Boggs Miami, Fl [email protected] wrote: > Pam, > As I remember it ,the Blue Fugates were one family with the genetic condition > that you describe.They may have had Melungeon ancestry but there were many > other Melungeon families who did not share their condition.It was unique to > their family.Melungeons are a wider group of mixed ancestry families.If anyone > feels I don't have it straight let me know.I'm open. > RoEllen > > ==== BOGGS Mailing List ==== > Help maintain free access to genealogical information on the Internet in 1999 by supporting Rootsweb: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html/

It is fun to speculate about a possible Indian or Melungeon connection. Maybe some day new information will cleaer it all up. All I know is that my grandmother and her brothers are positive that we are Black Dutch. Grandmother says that she has always heard it that way. But what is a Black Dutch, she does not know. So, keep digging cousins,something good is bound to turn up! John Holbrook

Thanks Elva, I descend from Johns brother Levi also Eli and Sarah's son.So my Rebecca Boggs (gggrandmother)was a 1st cousin of your Silas and niece to your John.Rebecca named her son(myggrandfather) John also(John L. York-b.1875).I have a beautiful portrait of him in my living room.His youngest daughter,now 87 years old lives here with me. RoEllen

RoEllen. My Boggs Line Eli Boggs and Sarah Eldrige John Boggs and Tabitha Dixon Silas Boggs and Susannah Miniard Mae Boggs and Joseph Nolan Ruby Nolan and Adrian Nolan. Mothers side. Oliver Wendell Boggs Married Kathleen Nolan----Fathers side Elva.

Pam, As I remember it ,the Blue Fugates were one family with the genetic condition that you describe.They may have had Melungeon ancestry but there were many other Melungeon families who did not share their condition.It was unique to their family.Melungeons are a wider group of mixed ancestry families.If anyone feels I don't have it straight let me know.I'm open. RoEllen