Hi Listers, just to point out that nurses were not awarded clasps on either the QSA or KSA. cheers Keiron On 9 Jan 2006, at 19:27, David Humphry wrote: > Hi Colin - Basically the Queen's South Africa Medal (QSA) was > awarded to all troops on the British side who served in South > Africa or Rhodesia between 11 October 1899 and 31 May 1902. Most > medals had one or more 'battle', state' or 'date' clasps but some > were issued without clasps. There were 26 clasps in total but 9 is > the most that could be on a single medal as some clasps were > mutually exclusive or covered actions which took place at the same > time in different parts of SA. Up to 6 clasps are fairly common, 7 > are fairly scarce, 8 very scarce and 9 rare. > > Among those who received the QSA without any clasps are many > locally raised troops including most Town Guards, District Mounted > Troops, etc., nurses, men of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines who > served in South African waters but not ashore and soldiers who > guarded Boer prisoners on St Helena. > > The King's South Africa Medal was awarded to those who served a > minimum of 18 months in SA between the above mentioned dates and > served into 1902. Most KSAs had the clasps South Africa 1901 and > South Africa 1902 although a small percentage of men with split > service in SA who met the above criteria without serving there > during any part of 1901 received the 1902 clasp only. Nurses were > awarded the KSA without any clasps. > > The point to bear in mind is that a QSA could be (and often was) > awarded on its own but a KSA could not be awarded without a QSA. A > man who served in 1901 and/or 1902 but didn't qualify for a KSA > received the date clasp(s) on his QSA. Quite a number of men > served in SA after the death of Victoria (January 1901) but > received the QSA only. As an example of an extreme case, some men > of the Imperial Yeomanry landed in Cape Town a couple of days > before the end of the war and saw no action but still received a > QSA with clasps Cape Colony and South Africa 1902. Their colleagues > who landed a few days later received nothing. > > Regards, David > > Albertcolin@aol.com wrote: > Hi Listers, what is the difference between the"South African > medal" Kings > South African medal" and "Queens South African medal"please.Can > anyone enlighten > me, cheers Colin White > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide > with voicemail > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War Reading > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >
...which is as I stated! Keiron Spires <keiron@mac.com> wrote: Hi Listers, just to point out that nurses were not awarded clasps on either the QSA or KSA. cheers Keiron On 9 Jan 2006, at 19:27, David Humphry wrote: > Hi Colin - Basically the Queen's South Africa Medal (QSA) was > awarded to all troops on the British side who served in South > Africa or Rhodesia between 11 October 1899 and 31 May 1902. Most > medals had one or more 'battle', state' or 'date' clasps but some > were issued without clasps. There were 26 clasps in total but 9 is > the most that could be on a single medal as some clasps were > mutually exclusive or covered actions which took place at the same > time in different parts of SA. Up to 6 clasps are fairly common, 7 > are fairly scarce, 8 very scarce and 9 rare. > > Among those who received the QSA without any clasps are many > locally raised troops including most Town Guards, District Mounted > Troops, etc., nurses, men of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines who > served in South African waters but not ashore and soldiers who > guarded Boer prisoners on St Helena. > > The King's South Africa Medal was awarded to those who served a > minimum of 18 months in SA between the above mentioned dates and > served into 1902. Most KSAs had the clasps South Africa 1901 and > South Africa 1902 although a small percentage of men with split > service in SA who met the above criteria without serving there > during any part of 1901 received the 1902 clasp only. Nurses were > awarded the KSA without any clasps. > > The point to bear in mind is that a QSA could be (and often was) > awarded on its own but a KSA could not be awarded without a QSA. A > man who served in 1901 and/or 1902 but didn't qualify for a KSA > received the date clasp(s) on his QSA. Quite a number of men > served in SA after the death of Victoria (January 1901) but > received the QSA only. As an example of an extreme case, some men > of the Imperial Yeomanry landed in Cape Town a couple of days > before the end of the war and saw no action but still received a > QSA with clasps Cape Colony and South Africa 1902. Their colleagues > who landed a few days later received nothing. > > Regards, David > > Albertcolin@aol.com wrote: > Hi Listers, what is the difference between the"South African > medal" Kings > South African medal" and "Queens South African medal"please.Can > anyone enlighten > me, cheers Colin White --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.