Hello Everybody, After reading the introductory pages (which, by coincidence, somebody at work had downloaded for me today!), I get the distinct feeling I might as well give up now! I have been trying to find my Great Grandfather, Charles William Bugden, on the 1901 census and couldn't for the life of me understand why I couldn't find him . . . .and it has only just dawned on me that he wasn't even in the country! (I know, I know . . . bit dim or what?!). I have recently had a conversation with my cousin and her father (my uncle) has my G.Grandfathers' discharge papers from his time in the Boer War - but is not letting anybody see them - an absolute waste since none of his children are interested in the family history . . .ah well. Just in case anybody has come across any information, Charles William Bugden was born in Ulcombe, Kent 15.10.1882. He joined the Army after lying about his age and, according to my cousin, spent at least the first part of his time in the Boer War guarding prisoners on an island (St Helena springs to mind - unless there were other islands?). I am presuming that he was in the Buffs but that is only based on his geographical birthplace and lifelong residence in Ulcombe. Between the Boer War and WWI he was back in Ulcombe, getting married and raising three daughters then, with the arrival of WWI he joined up again but was in the Leicestershire Regt. He was made a sergeant, but was unlucky enough to be killed in action. His death cert. gives date of death as 28.10.1918. If anybody has any clue as to what to do (based on the sparseness of my information) to try and obtain some futher details?? Thanks Kevin Pearson ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Humphry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Where to start? > Hello Steve & Valerie, > > In general new subscribers to this list are best advised to first check the > introduction page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWinfo.htm . > However I have a copy of the privately published Imperial Yeomanry medal > roll and can tell you that the National Archive (aka PRO) at Kew has given > you incorrect information. A proportion of the service records of the > Regular Army of the period in series WO 97 were indeed destroyed in WW2 but > the Imperial Yeomanry weren't Regular Army and their records survive almost > completely in series WO 128. It seems to me that the person who checked the > files for your grandfather looked in the wrong series and unsurprisingly > came up with a nil result. > > The medal roll shows that 21460 Sydney (sic) Buckingham 7th (Leicestershire) > Company, 4th Battalion Imperial Yeomanry was awarded the Queen's South > Africa Medal with clasps Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, South > Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902. Because the roll shows his full name this > means that the author (Kevin Asplin) has physically seen his file at the PRO > when compiling the roll. I therefore suggest you revert to Kew with this > information, get them to check in the correct series and send you a copy > of his service record for which you have already paid. > > Regards, > > David

Kevin, Although not Boer War related, 'Soldiers Died in the Great War' gives the following additional information on your great grandfather: 41087 Sargeant Charles William Bugden 1/4th Bn, Leicestershire Regt. Born and resident in Ulcombe, Kent Enlisted Maidstone, Kent Died of wounds 28.10.1918 France & Flanders Formerly 9199 Royal West Kent Regt. Regards Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin.pearson1 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 27 August 2003 7:40 pm > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Where to start? > > Hello Everybody, > > After reading the introductory pages (which, by coincidence, somebody at > work had downloaded for me today!), I get the distinct feeling I might as > well give up now! > > I have been trying to find my Great Grandfather, Charles William Bugden, on > the 1901 census and couldn't for the life of me understand why I couldn't > find him . . . .and it has only just dawned on me that he wasn't even in the > country! (I know, I know . . . bit dim or what?!). I have recently had a > conversation with my cousin and her father (my uncle) has my G.Grandfathers' > discharge papers from his time in the Boer War - but is not letting anybody > see them - an absolute waste since none of his children are interested in > the family history . . .ah well. > > Just in case anybody has come across any information, Charles William Bugden > was born in Ulcombe, Kent 15.10.1882. He joined the Army after lying about > his age and, according to my cousin, spent at least the first part of his > time in the Boer War guarding prisoners on an island (St Helena springs to > mind - unless there were other islands?). I am presuming that he was in the > Buffs but that is only based on his geographical birthplace and lifelong > residence in Ulcombe. Between the Boer War and WWI he was back in Ulcombe, > getting married and raising three daughters then, with the arrival of WWI he > joined up again but was in the Leicestershire Regt. He was made a sergeant, > but was unlucky enough to be killed in action. His death cert. gives date of > death as 28.10.1918. > > If anybody has any clue as to what to do (based on the sparseness of my > information) to try and obtain some futher details?? > > Thanks > > Kevin Pearson