Hello Trevor, The 16th Lancers' casualty roll shows one man killed and three wounded at Lindley 3-4/1/1901. There is no mention of Fredericksdorp but it's not uncommon for alternative local place names to be used in different returns. The wounded men are Ptes. Burn, George and Hardwick and presumably the man you refer to is one of them. Lindley is in the Orange Free State and the action was clearly a minor skirmish. By that stage of the war the major set piece battles had finished and the guerilla phase had begun. Like many other units, 16th Lancers would have been operating in columns - most likely often as scouts or skirmishers - in the drives to capture the highly mobile Boer commandos. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Hancock <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] 16th Lancers at Fredericksdorp > Hello List > > Can anyone help me please. One of the men commemorated on our WW1 War Memorial also served in South Africa with the 16th Lancers from 1899-1902. He was wounded on 4th January 1901 at Frederiksdorp. What were the 16th Lancers doing at this time? Can someone give me their movements/actions for this period please. > > Thank you > > Trevor Hancock > Wantage UK

Hello David Many thanks for your message and the information on the 16th Lancers at Lindley in January 1901. Pte Burn was the man I was interested in so your email was most helpful.. You maybe interested to know that according to his 16th Lancers Service Record, Arthur Burn recovered from his wounds and was transferred to the reserve in South Africa in 1902 finally being discharged in 1906. He then emigrated to Australia and joined the 10th Australian Light Horse on the outbreak of WW1 and was killed in action at Gallipoli in August 1915. I also have his Australian Service Record which mentions that he spent 3 years with the SA Constabulary and 3 months with the Natal Cabiniers (whatever they were). I presume that he served with these two latter units after he transferred to the army reserve. However, this is not clear from his records. Kind regards Trevor Hancock ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Humphry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] 16th Lancers at Fredericksdorp > Hello Trevor, > > The 16th Lancers' casualty roll shows one man killed and three wounded at > Lindley 3-4/1/1901. There is no mention of Fredericksdorp but it's not > uncommon for alternative local place names to be used in different returns. > The wounded men are Ptes. Burn, George and Hardwick and presumably the man > you refer to is one of them. Lindley is in the Orange Free State and the > action was clearly a minor skirmish. By that stage of the war the major set > piece battles had finished and the guerilla phase had begun. Like many other > units, 16th Lancers would have been operating in columns - most likely often > as scouts or skirmishers - in the drives to capture the highly mobile Boer > commandos. > > Regards, > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trevor Hancock <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:41 PM > Subject: [BOER-WAR] 16th Lancers at Fredericksdorp > > > > Hello List > > > > Can anyone help me please. One of the men commemorated on our WW1 War > Memorial also served in South Africa with the 16th Lancers from 1899-1902. > He was wounded on 4th January 1901 at Frederiksdorp. What were the 16th > Lancers doing at this time? Can someone give me their movements/actions for > this period please. > > > > Thank you > > > > Trevor Hancock > > Wantage UK >

Trevor, Some men took their discharge in South Africa with a view to settling there. I imagine a man who transferred to the Army Reserve while still in SA would need special permission to do so but it seems most likely that Burn did just that. The fledgling SAC (effectively the British armed and mounted police force of the Transvaal) was formed during the Boer War and many British soldiers were transferred to it for war service. After the war when many of these men returned to the UK it would have been in need of experienced men to carry on. The Natal Carbineers were a local unit formed in Natal and during the war served in the Ladysmith campaign. I believe their descendant regiment is still part of the SA army today. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Hancock <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] 16th Lancers at Fredericksdorp > Hello David > > Many thanks for your message and the information on the 16th Lancers at > Lindley in January 1901. Pte Burn was the man I was interested in so your > email was most helpful.. > > You maybe interested to know that according to his 16th Lancers Service > Record, Arthur Burn recovered from his wounds and was transferred to the > reserve in South Africa in 1902 finally being discharged in 1906. He then > emigrated to Australia and joined the 10th Australian Light Horse on the > outbreak of WW1 and was killed in action at Gallipoli in August 1915. > > I also have his Australian Service Record which mentions that he spent 3 > years with the SA Constabulary and 3 months with the Natal Cabiniers > (whatever they were). I presume that he served with these two latter units > after he transferred to the army reserve. However, this is not clear from > his records. > > Kind regards > > Trevor Hancock