Hi David, Many, many thanks for your help, I have been trying to find out some more details on Andrew & Hugh for some time. Do you know if the National Archives in Edinburgh would hold their death certificates or would I need to request details from the PRO ? Thanks, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Humphry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Casualty > Hello Steve, > > The casualty roll shows only two Campbells with these initials who died > while serving with the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders so they are > presumably your great uncles. > > 2867 Pte. A. Campbell 1st Battalion killed in action Modder River > 28/11/1899. Originally buried at Modder River Rail Cemetery. Later > re-interred at West End Garden of Remembrance, Kimberley. Grave marked by a > named metal cross. Name on cemetery memorial. Served in 'B' Company. > > 4047 Pte. H. Campbell 4th Battalion. Died of disease Kroonstad 17/6/1901. > Buried North Road Cemetery, Kroonstad. Grave number 891. Grave marked by a > named metal cross. Name on cemetery memorial. > > Regards, > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen McMillan <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:21 AM > Subject: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Casualty > > > > Hi There, > > > > Please can somebody help me, I am trying to find out some more details > about my 2 Great Uncles, > > Hugh and Andrew Campbell who were both killed in the Boer War, both appear > to have served with > > the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders. > > > > Any further info would be gratefully appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Steve, > > (Paisley, Scotland) > > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Steve, Death certificates for men who died on service in the Boer War are, as for civilian deaths in England and Wales, available from the Registrar General's Office in Southport, telephone 0151 471 4200. As with most such organisations there will be a separate office for Scotland but I've inherited a copy of the death certificate of a man in the Black Watch who was killed at Magersfontein which was issued from the English RGO in 1999 so I assume all Boer War death certificates are available from there. They are definitely not available at the National Archives (PRO). The information on them is very sparse, less so than on civilian death certificates and with much less detail than I already gave you, and in fact nothing more than appears in the casualty roll. The copy I have states that it is "An entry in an Army Register Book of Deaths in the South African War (1899-1902)" and shows the man's name, rank and number with date, place and cause of death. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen McMillan <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Casualty > Hi David, > > Many, many thanks for your help, I have been trying to find out some more > details on > Andrew & Hugh for some time. > > Do you know if the National Archives in Edinburgh would hold their death > certificates > or would I need to request details from the PRO ? > > Thanks, > Steve

Register House in Edinburgh holds a list of Scottish casualties, but at most it lists surname, first initial, rank and number. I have looked at this register and it's very sparse. There appear to be no dates of death in most cases and very few causes of death. It is listed by regiment and not date. Also, unlike standard Birth, Marriage and Death certificates it has not been digitised so it can be quite difficult to read at times. From enquiries I made this list seemed to be compiled from the official casualty roll and is of men who are recognised as being Scottish nationals (i.e. born in Scotland), thereforethere are bound to be a few that "slipped through the net" and are not listed. Steven, do you have any more information on your great-uncles? I am compiling information on Scottish casualties and would be very interested in any information you may have. Regards, David McNay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen McMillan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Casualty > Hi David, > > Many, many thanks for your help, I have been trying to find out some more > details on > Andrew & Hugh for some time. > > Do you know if the National Archives in Edinburgh would hold their death > certificates > or would I need to request details from the PRO ? > > Thanks, > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Humphry" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Casualty > > > > Hello Steve, > > > > The casualty roll shows only two Campbells with these initials who died > > while serving with the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders so they are > > presumably your great uncles. > > > > 2867 Pte. A. Campbell 1st Battalion killed in action Modder River > > 28/11/1899. Originally buried at Modder River Rail Cemetery. Later > > re-interred at West End Garden of Remembrance, Kimberley. Grave marked by > a > > named metal cross. Name on cemetery memorial. Served in 'B' Company. > > > > 4047 Pte. H. Campbell 4th Battalion. Died of disease Kroonstad 17/6/1901. > > Buried North Road Cemetery, Kroonstad. Grave number 891. Grave marked by a > > named metal cross. Name on cemetery memorial. > > > > Regards, > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephen McMillan <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:21 AM > > Subject: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Casualty > > > > > > > Hi There, > > > > > > Please can somebody help me, I am trying to find out some more details > > about my 2 Great Uncles, > > > Hugh and Andrew Campbell who were both killed in the Boer War, both > appear > > to have served with > > > the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders. > > > > > > Any further info would be gratefully appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Steve, > > > (Paisley, Scotland) > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > > List Admin Message > > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War Reading > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

A frequent query is how to find a possible Boer War soldier when his regiment is not known. The Anglo-Boer War Memorials Project has various offers to research soldiers in the war, even if their regiment or unit is not known. I am not a member, have not used them and do not know anything about their services, but they may be worth trying! http://www.casus-belli.co.uk/abwmp/Research_Services/research_services. html or go to Research Services from their homepage: http://www.casus-belli.co.uk/abwmp/index.html Yours, John Wilson (Wellington, New Zealand)

Hello all I am a new member to the group. My grandfarther as per his military records (WO97) joined the 7th Hussars in April 1892 and after serving in India (03/02/1892 to 22/10/1895) and Rhodesia (23/10/1895 to 29/11/1898) was call up again and served in South Africa from 03/12/1901 to 06/06/1902. This made him eligable for a QSA with 5 clasps (SA 1901, SA 1902, Cape Colony, Transvaal and Orange Free State). I have nothing else, and am trying to find out if anyone out there has any history on the involvement of the 7th Hussars in the 1901 - 1902 Boer War. Look forward to hearing from someone in due course. John Lister Auckland New Zealand

John Stirling's two books: "Our Regiments in South Africa 1899-1902" (1903, Edinburgh) and: "The Colonials in South Africa" (1907, Edinburgh). were published by William Blackwood and Sons of Edinburgh and London (not by T.C. Jack!). I think that one has been reprinted. The 7th (Queen's Own) Hussars is mentioned on page 433 of "Our Regiments in South Africa"; the Regiment sailed on the Manchester Merchant on 30th November 1901, and shortly after arrival were brigaded with the 2nd Dragoon Guards (Queen's Bays) under Colonel the Hon. R. T. Lawley "to operate in the Winburg district. The Brigade was for some time in the north of the Orange River Colony ... and took part in General Elliott's great drive in the last half of February .... resulted in over 800 prisoners, 25,000 cattle, 2000 horses, 200 waggons, and 50,000 rounds of ammunition. In March 1902 Lawley's brigade was moved to Springs in the Transvaal and on 1st April had severe fighting" near Leeuwkop when he realised the Boers had superior numbers and had to retreat on Leeuwkop east of Springs in the Eastern Transvaal (page 408-9). Yours, John Wilson (Wellington, New Zealand) > My grandfarther as per his military records (WO97) joined the 7th Hussars in > April 1892 and after serving in India (03/02/1892 to 22/10/1895) and > Rhodesia (23/10/1895 to 29/11/1898) was call up again and served in South > Africa from 03/12/1901 to 06/06/1902. This made him eligable for a QSA with > 5 clasps (SA 1901, SA 1902, Cape Colony, Transvaal and Orange Free State). > > I have nothing else, and am trying to find out if anyone out there has any > history on the involvement of the 7th Hussars in the 1901 - 1902 Boer War. > > Look forward to hearing from someone in due course. > John Lister > Auckland > New Zealand >