----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Bigelow" <anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:39 AM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Australian's Burning Boer Farms > Hello, > > Can anyone identify the source to a reference in Wallace's book, from > Australian trooper Hiram Preston Thompson, of Australians burning boer > farms? > Regards, Anthony. The several thousand Australian volunteers serving in the ABW were involved in all aspects of British army anti-guerilla operations, including the burning of Boer farms. - Sidney. www.xlibris.com/krugersgold.html

Hi Kevin - good luck with the update - John Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: <KevinAsplin@aol.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: October 29, 2005 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Book > John, > > Just for info, flew back on Tuesday.. I will update my site when I get > chance! > > Kevin > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

We have been trying to trace a couple of brothers of my husband's maternal grandmother. We have recently discovered that they had enlisted in the army. According to family legend one or both may have fought in the Boer War. I had a quick look at some of the sites regarding regimental histories. While the overall histories are interesting, are there any lists giving the names of the enlisted men? Even partial lists? These young men would have been serving in the early 1900's and were living in the Wandsworth, Lambeth areas around the time they would have enlisted. I do understand that some records were destroyed during the blitz. Here in Canada we can access a site on the internet called 'Soldiers of the First World War' http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020106_e.html that lists all the Canadian soldiers that fought, not just the ones that died. Any possibility that such a site is being developed for Great Britain? Best wishes, Pat

was it David Humphrey? davidh9999@yahoo.co.uk. Always of great help. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHEILA REYNOLDS" <sheila.reynolds1@btinternet.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:52 AM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Boer War Book > > Hi. > > I am new to the list and I am hoping someone can help me. > > Last year I subscribe to a military list asking for help on my gr father's > Boer war regiment. > > Well I did not get one reply, but one gentleman who did got in touch off > list at the start of this year, ask if I got any were, I told him no, he > said he had found my gr dad in a book on the Boer war, he sent me the > details, and there he was , great, I would love to get hold of a copy but > it is supposed to be out of print, and I can't remember the authors name, > I know he is a serving solider and has a web page, I have search and hit a > brick wall. > > Please can anyone help me, find the web site or know his name or the book. > > Thank you for any help. > > Sheila. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War Reading > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 27/10/2005 > >

Thanks John, That the one, It looks like the book has being re printed, so I may be lucky. Gr dad was in the Imperial Yeomanry. I have a Photo of him in his Uniform. Sheila. Sheila, It may have been Kevin Asplin's site. He lists all regular cavalry, some infantry, and all the Imperial Yeomanry. His Site is at _http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html_ (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html) . He is in Iraq 'til next month but the site is live. John JOHN CRONIN CHRISTCHURCH DORSET UK NOLITE ME CULPARE-SUFFRAGATUS SUM ERAE PORCELLAE ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War Reading http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm ============================== --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.

Hi. I am new to the list and I am hoping someone can help me. Last year I subscribe to a military list asking for help on my gr father’s Boer war regiment. Well I did not get one reply, but one gentleman who did got in touch off list at the start of this year, ask if I got any were, I told him no, he said he had found my gr dad in a book on the Boer war, he sent me the details, and there he was , great, I would love to get hold of a copy but it is supposed to be out of print, and I can’t remember the authors name, I know he is a serving solider and has a web page, I have search and hit a brick wall. Please can anyone help me, find the web site or know his name or the book. Thank you for any help. Sheila. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

John, Just for info, flew back on Tuesday.. I will update my site when I get chance! Kevin

Sheila, It may have been Kevin Asplin's site. He lists all regular cavalry, some infantry, and all the Imperial Yeomanry. His Site is at _http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html_ (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html) . He is in Iraq 'til next month but the site is live. John JOHN CRONIN CHRISTCHURCH DORSET UK NOLITE ME CULPARE-SUFFRAGATUS SUM ERAE PORCELLAE

"Bleasdale Family" <jon@bleasdales.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi Jean, > In the experience of my ancestors their number changed when then changed > regiments. > [snipped] > I think all you can do is work on the assumption that he was in the Welch > regiment before WW1, and see if this leads anywhere. Perhaps the regimental > number will indicate when he joined - the higher the number the later he > joined ? > > Try enquiring at the Welch Regimental museum... > http://www.rrw.org.uk/family/index.htm Thank you very much for this. I will try contacting the museum. Best wishes, Jean Gilson Winnipeg, Canada -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/05

Hi Bob, try http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/volmil-london/vinf/L03.htm and http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/volmil-london/vinf/London.htm I think this shows they did indeed become the T.A. and they did provide some resource for the Boer War. JonB -----Original Message----- From: Robert Campbell [mailto:rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 24 October 2005 19:31 To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOER-WAR] 3rd London Volunteers 1891 to 1903 before WW1 Hi folks, just today I very fortunately received the full WW1 service record of my great grandfather who came from Edmonton. Surprise in the Attestation page it states that he had served previously with the 3rd London Volunteers for 12 years from which he was discharged in 1903. Is this a former name for what later became the Territorial Army of Volunteers prior to WW1? Has anyone more information and did they perhaps serve overseas? (I am thinking Boer War?) Although in my Great Grandfather's case the birth dates of his children in London suggests he wouldn't have had the opportunity to volunteer even if he wished to do so. cheers Bob in Brisbane ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War Reading http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi Jean, In the experience of my ancestors their number changed when then changed regiments. My Boer-war ancestor had an A3 size sheet showing the medals awarded, infact all his records were A3. His duties during WW1 were recorded on these sheets too. As he didn't visit the continent until after the armistice of WW1 there was no medal card. He stayed at the Regimental Barracks training the volunteers & recruits during WW1 - this was a different regimet to that which he served in during the Boer War - and he had a different (regimental) number. My other WW1 ancestor had a medal card entry as he saw action - so I think the cards just covers WW1 medals. As mentioned above, Boer War records were retained and appended to during WW1. Unfortunately only a third of WW1 service records exist as they went up in smoke during the Blitz of London in WW2. I think all you can do is work on the assumption that he was in the Welch regiment before WW1, and see if this leads anywhere. Perhaps the regimental number will indicate when he joined - the higher the number the later he joined ? Try enquiring at the Welch Regimental museum... http://www.rrw.org.uk/family/index.htm Regards, JonB -----Original Message----- From: aderynyto@shaw.ca [mailto:aderynyto@shaw.ca] Sent: 26 October 2005 22:23 To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOER-WAR] Regimental numbers My relative James WYNN (1872-1915) served in the South Africa Campaign - from his WWI death record at the CWGC. Also from CWGC when he died in France he was serving in the 1st Battalion Welch Regiment, his number was 27338. There is also a medal card for him but it does not mention South Africa.

My relative James WYNN (1872-1915) served in the South Africa Campaign - from his WWI death record at the CWGC. Also from CWGC when he died in France he was serving in the 1st Battalion Welch Regiment, his number was 27338. There is also a medal card for him but it does not mention South Africa. Can I assume that in South Africa he would have been in the same regiment and used the same number? If so then does anyone have a suggestion as to how I could use those to find his South African record? His brother Joseph is also believed to have served with him in the Boer War but since he did not serve in WWI I do not have similar information as to his regiment. Thank you. -- Jean Gilson Winnipeg, Canada Glamorgan FHS member no. 3549 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/05

Hi Glynis, Arthur Conan Doyle states that the 85th RFA were along side the 7th Division on 3rd May 1900 see (he seems to suggest they were with the 11th though) http://www.pinetreeweb.com/conan-doyle-chapter-25.htm The London Times (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/heatherasplin/bwsl00.html) states: 01/01/00 "At Tilbury Docks, the Manchester Port is embarking a brigade division of field artillery consisting of 83rd, 84th and 85th Batteries, with divisional brigade staff, the whole consisting of 545 officers and men, 427 horses and 18 guns." 11/1/00 " The Glengyle left South West India Dock at 6:30 a.m. yesterday for SA. She carried the ammunition column for 83rd, 84th and 85th Batteries of Field Artillery and a number of officers. The troops consisted mostly of Hussars and RA with a few Dragoons, about 140 officers and men. Also 230 horses, 14 large wagons, and over this number of smaller wagons." 18/1/00 "The Brigade Division of RFA, 7th Div. is to embark to-day, at Tilbury Dock, in the Manchester Port. They consisted of the 83rd, 84th, and 85th Batteries and a detachment of ASC. The equipment consisted of 18 guns and 34 wagons . The rest was 545 officers and men and 427 horses." "Dateline Tilbury, Jan. 18. The Manchester Port sailed from Tilbury between 4 & 5 this afternoon. She sailed with 20 officers, 565 men, 449 horses, 18 guns, and the compliment of ammunition wagons." "Dateline Adelaide, Jan. 26. The Manchester Port has arrived at Las Palmas." "12/02/00 (Monday)p5e The Manchester Port arrived at Cape Town yesterday". Lord Carver's "Boer War" states: "On the 16th December [1900] orders were given to raise a 7th Division and four more artillery brigades the former embarking between the 3rd and 18th January 1900, the latter between the 21st and 27th" which seems to conflict with The Times. The 7th Div were under Major-General Charles Tucker, and Carver first mentions them in action on the 21st Feb at Kitchener's Kopje and then later at Poplar Grove on the 7th March. The 9th Div also served at Poplar Grove, having arrived during Feb1900 and taken part at Jacobsdaal 18th Feb. Regards, JonB -----Original Message----- From: Glynis Millett-Clay [mailto:glynis@kwikmark.co.za] Sent: 23 October 2005 20:20 To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOER-WAR] WILLIAM GEORGE RICHARD CLAY Dear List, I have been searching for a very long time for my husbands grandfather's role in the Anglo Boer War. The only information we have got on him is a letter written by his 2nd wife in 1932 saying that he served in the 85th Battery Field Artillery Special Service volunteer as a farrier.

Hi folks, just today I very fortunately received the full WW1 service record of my great grandfather who came from Edmonton. Surprise in the Attestation page it states that he had served previously with the 3rd London Volunteers for 12 years from which he was discharged in 1903. Is this a former name for what later became the Territorial Army of Volunteers prior to WW1? Has anyone more information and did they perhaps serve overseas? (I am thinking Boer War?) Although in my Great Grandfather's case the birth dates of his children in London suggests he wouldn't have had the opportunity to volunteer even if he wished to do so. cheers Bob in Brisbane

yes. searcher@dircon.co.uk Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mavis Griffiths" <mavisgg@btinternet.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:00 AM Subject: [BOER-WAR] BOB O'HARA > Has anyone got the email address for Bob O'Hara? I have sent two emails > to the address I had for him but got no reply. > > Many thanks. > > Mavis > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005 > >

Dear List, I have been searching for a very long time for my husbands grandfather's role in the Anglo Boer War. The only information we have got on him is a letter written by his 2nd wife in 1932 saying that he served in the 85th Battery Field Artillery Special Service volunteer as a farrier. In the Great War in the Kalahari Horse as Farrier Sergeant. I found in the National Archives on Documents Online a certain CLAY, GEORGE WILLIAM however not sure if it is the same person. Can you please inform me who the "85th Battery Field Artillery .........etc" fought under? And how can I find out what his Army number is??? I did find out that the 85th R.F.A. was part of the 9th Division - Lieut-General Sir H.E. Colvile and that this 85th division joined after Poplar Grove. Then I also found out that the Brigade Division of R.F.A., 7th Div was to embark at Tilbury Dock in the Manchester Port which consisted of 83rd, 84th & 85th Batteries???? This confuses me a bit as some 85th were with the 9th Div and some with the 7th Div. ARE THESE TWO DIFFERENT LOTS??? Please let me know as I really would love to find out more about him. He did not die in the War at all. Regards, Glynis South Africa. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005

Thanks Pat, This is the same one that I sent two emails to, one in July and one in August. Wonder why this is? I will try again. Best wishes. Mavis Hyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "patfryk" <patfryk@clear.net.nz> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] BOB O'HARA > yes. searcher@dircon.co.uk > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mavis Griffiths" <mavisgg@btinternet.com> > To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:00 AM > Subject: [BOER-WAR] BOB O'HARA > > >> Has anyone got the email address for Bob O'Hara? I have sent two emails >> to the address I had for him but got no reply. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Mavis >> >> ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== >> List Admin Message >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: >> 21/10/2005 >> >> > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War Reading > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Mary & all: There are three Nettletons on Kevin Asplin's website for the IY, but only one Nettleton, T B. His website includes all those in the Imperial Yeomanry. See his homepage: http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html For the "Ns" in the IY see: http://hometown.aol.co.uk/kevinasplin/IYN.html Yours, John Wilson > I have recently found that a relative of mine may have served in the Boer War. There is a listing on the City of Leeds Boer War Plaque as follows: > > Nettleton T B Trooper Imperial Yeomanry Companies > > How can I find out if this is Thomas Binning Nettleton? He was born in 1869 and we haven't been able to find a marriage or a death for him. Does this plaque list those who served or are they casualties? >

Has anyone got the email address for Bob O'Hara? I have sent two emails to the address I had for him but got no reply. Many thanks. Mavis

Hi again Further to my previous message, I've just done a quick "google" and found, on http://www.stauntonfhs.org.uk/Abbreviations.htm#U USD - Urban Sanitary Council (which obviously isn't quite right!) Cheers Heather in Oz -----Original Message----- From: Heather & Chris Lord [mailto:lordelec@space.net.au] Sent: 23 October 2005 08:24 To: 'BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [BOER-WAR] What is U S D ? Hi All I have an idea that this isn't a military thing at all. ISTR that it stands for "Urban Sanitary (or Sanitation?) District - or something like that. I think it's used on the Census. HTH Heather in Oz -----Original Message----- From: Bob and June Harris [mailto:Bob.June@btopenworld.com] Sent: 23 October 2005 03:07 To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOER-WAR] What is U S D ? Good evening all, Has anyone ever come across the initials U S D with a military connection and possibly tied to a location ? The question has been passed to me second-hand from a researcher in Australia, no idea in what context it first appeared - am assuming it is not US Dollars ! Regards Bob Harris (Cheltenham) Bob.june@btopenworld.com Researching: HATHAWAY - Cotswolds, Cheltenham and Wales HARRIS - Evesham (Offenham) GAPPER - Cheltenham SHEPHERD - Stow on the Wold, Oxfordshire MASON - Stow on the Wold MANSELL - Cotswolds HUMPHRIS- Cotswolds ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War Links http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarLinks.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx