I have a copy of the discharge certificate for Joseph Malins MYCOCK, who served in the South African Constabulary from 10 Feb 1901 to 9 Feb 1904. From his service number, B920, he was a member of B (or Northern) Division and was awarded the South Africa medal (King/ Queen not stated, but I assume King from the dates) with clasps for "Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, 1901 & 1902". His rank is shown as "3/C Trooper". Less than a year before joining the SAC, he had bought himself out of the Royal Navy on 14 Mar 1900, having only joined on 28 Dec 1899. Can anyone shed any more light on how he might have ended up in South Africa to sign attestation papers for the SAC at Moddersfontein and how B Division were employed both during the war, to earn the various clasps, and after? Thanks in anticipation. Ken Researching MYCOCKs any time anywhere

Thank you, that would be great. Being a bit of a novice when it comes to this sort of thing, what info will the casualty roll give me? -----Original Message----- From: David McNay [mailto:david_mcnay@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 27 December 2005 01:41 To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Seaforth Highlander Alastair, Unless someone does it before me, I'll check the casualty roll to see if he is on it later. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Scott" <alastair_scott@ntlworld.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Seaforth Highlander > Hello, > > I am trying to find out as much as I can about my great-grandfather, John > Graham MacKay. He fought in the Boer War and I have his QSA medal. So far > I > have been able to find out his number (2863) and that he was a private in > the 2nd Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders. His bible has him as being in 'A' > Company, although this was dated 1888 when he first enlisted so I don't > know > if it is likely to have changed. I also know that he was wounded during > the > war - shot in the neck whilst brewing up cocoa, apparently. I do not know > when or where this happened. I assume he was invalided out following this > but I don't know for sure. > > His medal has the clasps: Cape Colony; Transvaal; Paardeberg; Driefontein > and Wittebergen. > > Of particular interest to me is what these clasps actually mean. What > happened at Paardeberg, Driefontein and the rest? Was he wounded in a > bitter > battle or was he simply extremely unlucky? > > I intend researching further by getting in touch with the regimental > museum > in Fort George, however any information or help anyone might be able to > pass > on would be enormously appreciated. I appreciate that as an enlisted man > it > is unlikely there will be any great detail on him but just to know what > his > unit or regiment did in the war would be fascinating in itself. > > Thank you, > > Alastair Scott > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War List Page > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Getting Started on Boer War Research? http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWInfo.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Everyone Steve Becker turned up an interesting 1AIF digger, Mark BEWICK of 2LHR. See www.awm.gov.au/database/133/page.asp?Folder=4&Page=74&Surname=bewick His WWI service record claims duty with the Intelligence Corps in Ladysmith as well as with the Natal Carbineers plus 2 years with the Imperial Light Horse including during the Zulu Rebellion. The intriguing part is that he claims to be only 25 in 1914. His next of kin is still shown as being in Ladysmith in 1914 so the story could have some credibility despite his age during the siege. Can anyone see him listed in any of the relevant rolls? Regards Colin Roe -- Colin Roe, Torrens ACT Australia Oz-Boer Database www.pcug.org.au/~croe/ozb/oz_boer.cgi

Please remove me from this E Mail list Thank You -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Scott [mailto:alastair_scott@ntlworld.com] Sent: 27 December 2005 12:36 To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOER-WAR] Seaforth Highlander Hello, I am trying to find out as much as I can about my great-grandfather, John Graham MacKay. He fought in the Boer War and I have his QSA medal. So far I have been able to find out his number (2863) and that he was a private in the 2nd Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders. His bible has him as being in 'A' Company, although this was dated 1888 when he first enlisted so I don't know if it is likely to have changed. I also know that he was wounded during the war - shot in the neck whilst brewing up cocoa, apparently. I do not know when or where this happened. I assume he was invalided out following this but I don't know for sure. His medal has the clasps: Cape Colony; Transvaal; Paardeberg; Driefontein and Wittebergen. Of particular interest to me is what these clasps actually mean. What happened at Paardeberg, Driefontein and the rest? Was he wounded in a bitter battle or was he simply extremely unlucky? I intend researching further by getting in touch with the regimental museum in Fort George, however any information or help anyone might be able to pass on would be enormously appreciated. I appreciate that as an enlisted man it is unlikely there will be any great detail on him but just to know what his unit or regiment did in the war would be fascinating in itself. Thank you, Alastair Scott ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War List Page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 21/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 21/12/2005

Gail, That would be fantastic. Much appreciated. I assume it's best to mail this direct to me? My email is: alastair_scott@ntlworld.com Alastair -----Original Message----- From: GailmLynch@aol.com [mailto:GailmLynch@aol.com] Sent: 27 December 2005 01:06 To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Seaforth Highlander Alastair - I have the History of the Seaforth Highlanders which I purchased from the regimental museum. There are three pages devoted to their service in South Africa. Would you like me to scan them and send them as an attachment off-list? My Maternal grandfather Ronald MACKENZIE was a soldier and surgeon in the Seaforth Highlanders during the Boer War. Gail Lynch ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War List Page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Alastair, Unless someone does it before me, I'll check the casualty roll to see if he is on it later. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Scott" <alastair_scott@ntlworld.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Seaforth Highlander > Hello, > > I am trying to find out as much as I can about my great-grandfather, John > Graham MacKay. He fought in the Boer War and I have his QSA medal. So far > I > have been able to find out his number (2863) and that he was a private in > the 2nd Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders. His bible has him as being in 'A' > Company, although this was dated 1888 when he first enlisted so I don't > know > if it is likely to have changed. I also know that he was wounded during > the > war - shot in the neck whilst brewing up cocoa, apparently. I do not know > when or where this happened. I assume he was invalided out following this > but I don't know for sure. > > His medal has the clasps: Cape Colony; Transvaal; Paardeberg; Driefontein > and Wittebergen. > > Of particular interest to me is what these clasps actually mean. What > happened at Paardeberg, Driefontein and the rest? Was he wounded in a > bitter > battle or was he simply extremely unlucky? > > I intend researching further by getting in touch with the regimental > museum > in Fort George, however any information or help anyone might be able to > pass > on would be enormously appreciated. I appreciate that as an enlisted man > it > is unlikely there will be any great detail on him but just to know what > his > unit or regiment did in the war would be fascinating in itself. > > Thank you, > > Alastair Scott > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War List Page > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hello, I am trying to find out as much as I can about my great-grandfather, John Graham MacKay. He fought in the Boer War and I have his QSA medal. So far I have been able to find out his number (2863) and that he was a private in the 2nd Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders. His bible has him as being in 'A' Company, although this was dated 1888 when he first enlisted so I don't know if it is likely to have changed. I also know that he was wounded during the war - shot in the neck whilst brewing up cocoa, apparently. I do not know when or where this happened. I assume he was invalided out following this but I don't know for sure. His medal has the clasps: Cape Colony; Transvaal; Paardeberg; Driefontein and Wittebergen. Of particular interest to me is what these clasps actually mean. What happened at Paardeberg, Driefontein and the rest? Was he wounded in a bitter battle or was he simply extremely unlucky? I intend researching further by getting in touch with the regimental museum in Fort George, however any information or help anyone might be able to pass on would be enormously appreciated. I appreciate that as an enlisted man it is unlikely there will be any great detail on him but just to know what his unit or regiment did in the war would be fascinating in itself. Thank you, Alastair Scott

Alastair - I have the History of the Seaforth Highlanders which I purchased from the regimental museum. There are three pages devoted to their service in South Africa. Would you like me to scan them and send them as an attachment off-list? My Maternal grandfather Ronald MACKENZIE was a soldier and surgeon in the Seaforth Highlanders during the Boer War. Gail Lynch

Hi to all my e-mail friends on your/ our list. For the Surry people, I'm still looking for ROSE's who were around the Reigate area after the 1901 census.. For the Boer War readers / researchers, I'm looking for info on my grandfather Harry Robert ROSE who fought there and returned safely home, (if he hadn't, I wouldn't be here.) and a possible Charles Edward ROSE who might have fought there and never returned. For the Sussex people, I'm still open for info on the ROSE, GREENFIELD, TOWN names in the area and surrounding villages. have a very very merry CHRISTMAS and a Blessed and happy New Year, 2006. Rev. Harry S. Rose 533 Hurry Ave NW CRANBROOK BC V1C 4C2

Hi Harry - I can confirm that Kevin's e-mail address advised by John is correct and current. However, right now he's sunning himself on a faraway beach and won't be back until the end of December. Regards, David Harry Rose <n_hsrose@telus.net> wrote: Hi John: I clicked on the Address for Kevin and received back a message from AOL saying that the address was unknown. Any further assitance as to how one is able to contact Kevin? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

Talking about history --- Any comments about 'what the atmosphere/ conditions were like after the Boer Wars 100 years ago'. Thank you to those very helpful members that have helped me over the years. Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year Philip Long - Canada

Happy Christmas to you all! that was a very interesting history lesson! I certainly hadn't known that before!Thanks Ros

Hi All: As a follow up to the question of the 12 Days of Christmas, I received the following. Have a very Merry & Blessed Christmas and a joyous and happy and safe and healthy New Year. Rev. Harry S. Rose 533 Hurry Ave NW CRANBROOK BC V1C 4C2 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: Fw:12 days of CHRISTMAS It is amazing what one can do with a computer! http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=AZ29791147

Hi John: I clicked on the Address for Kevin and received back a message from AOL saying that the address was unknown. Any further assitance as to how one is able to contact Kevin? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: <CJohncronin@aol.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] QSA Roll > Dear Tony, > There is no one big QSA medal roll on or off line. Contact > _KevinAsplin@aol.com_ (mailto:KevinAsplin@aol.com) he has done all the > work and published > what there is available. > > On line he has a Roll of all the regular cavalry, and three infantry > regiments. Theses are free to view. However, if you want to find the > clasps that > each man is entitled to you will have to buy the rolls from Kevin. He > has also > published in book form only in one volume the Rolls of THE IMPERIAL > YEOMANRY, SCOTTISH HORSE, and LOVAT SCOUTS. I purchased my volume from > the > publishers about 6 months ago it cost £75 which included postage. I also > have full > copies of the on line Rolls but will leave you to deal with Kevin direct > as I > do not know the current prices. > > Cheers > > John > > JOHN CRONIN CHRISTCHURCH DORSET UK > > NOLITE ME CULPARE-SUFFRAGATUS SUM ERAE PORCELLAE > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Wishing all a very Merry Christmas, a safe Holiday season and a healthy, prosperous New Year Nova Ontario, Canada I thought this was very interesting and wanted to pass it along...enjoy The Twelve Days of Christmas is one Christmas Carol that has always baffled me. What in the world do leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans, and especially the partridge who won't come out of the pear tree have to do With Christmas? Today I found out. From 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Someone during that era wrote this carol as A catechism song for young Catholics. It has two levels of meaning: the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of their Church. Each element in the carol has a code word for a religious reality which the children could remember. The partridge in a pear tree was Jesus Christ. Two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. Three French hens stood for faith, hope and charity. The four calling birds were the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. The five golden rings recalled the Torah or Law, the first five Books of the Old Testament. The six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation. Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit: Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership, and Mercy. The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes. Nine ladies dancing were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self Control. The ten lords a-leaping were the ten commandments. The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples. The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles' Creed. So there is your history for today. This knowledge was shared with me and I found it interesting and enlightening. Now I know how that Strange song became a Christmas Carol. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi George Sorry, I seem to have missed this one when it came in. Yes I'm sure that HAGSOC would appreciate any Boer War Australian grave photos that you can offer - both graves not already on their site and better shots of those that are. Regards Colin Roe On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:01, George Ward wrote in BOER-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com: > RE: [BOER-WAR] Grave of F.Ferris and others. > Date: Thu Dec 15 18:04:00 2005 > From: "George Ward" <wardfam@alphalink.com.au> > To: BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Colin, >          The nameplates on the graves of both Ferris and Fox are a bit hard > to read. Over the Christmas break I try to improve on them and forward them > to you. Whilst in Mafeking I photographed the grave of Pte S.Lipscombe. The > marker states that he was a Victorian Bushmen but from the records it > appears he was a member of the NSW Bushmen. Died 19 June 1901. > Would you like a copy of this grave as well? > Regards > > George   Melbourne -- Colin Roe, Torrens ACT Australia

Thanks John (from Christchurch) - very helpful. What a great website this is. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: <CJohncronin@aol.com> To: <BOER-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] QSA Roll Dear Tony, There is no one big QSA medal roll on or off line. Contact _KevinAsplin@aol.com_ (mailto:KevinAsplin@aol.com) he has done all the work and published what there is available. On line he has a Roll of all the regular cavalry, and three infantry regiments. Theses are free to view. However, if you want to find the clasps that each man is entitled to you will have to buy the rolls from Kevin. He has also published in book form only in one volume the Rolls of THE IMPERIAL YEOMANRY, SCOTTISH HORSE, and LOVAT SCOUTS. I purchased my volume from the publishers about 6 months ago it cost £75 which included postage. I also have full copies of the on line Rolls but will leave you to deal with Kevin direct as I do not know the current prices. Cheers John JOHN CRONIN CHRISTCHURCH DORSET UK NOLITE ME CULPARE-SUFFRAGATUS SUM ERAE PORCELLAE ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== List Admin Message http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi everyone, Merry Christmas. Is it possible to access the QSA Roll online. Is there one huge roll or is it split into Regts etc? Thanks, Tony Lyons

Dear Tony, There is no one big QSA medal roll on or off line. Contact _KevinAsplin@aol.com_ (mailto:KevinAsplin@aol.com) he has done all the work and published what there is available. On line he has a Roll of all the regular cavalry, and three infantry regiments. Theses are free to view. However, if you want to find the clasps that each man is entitled to you will have to buy the rolls from Kevin. He has also published in book form only in one volume the Rolls of THE IMPERIAL YEOMANRY, SCOTTISH HORSE, and LOVAT SCOUTS. I purchased my volume from the publishers about 6 months ago it cost £75 which included postage. I also have full copies of the on line Rolls but will leave you to deal with Kevin direct as I do not know the current prices. Cheers John JOHN CRONIN CHRISTCHURCH DORSET UK NOLITE ME CULPARE-SUFFRAGATUS SUM ERAE PORCELLAE

Once you know the local regt/corps of the SA forces for the Boer War then the enrolment forms are here: :http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/browser.asp?CATLN=3&CATID= 13186&GPE=False&MARKER=0 Scroll through for all the regt/corps and others. These records are intact and are original documents and not microfilm. They are not available on line but it is an "easy" commision for a paid researcher to go to Kew and pull the record and copy it for you...straight in and out job, they just have to get the box and search through the contents for the name and then copy them. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16/12/2005