Hello David, The casualty list shows 10 men called Sharp and 9 called Sharpe who died in the Boer War but none with the initial T and none shown as died of jaundice. It's not unknown for these lists to give an incorrect initial but without further information it will be pretty well impossible to progress this particular line of enquiry. There is no McNay shown as died but there is only one in the entire list. He was wounded and he has the correct initial. He is 4847 Pte. T. McNay 2nd Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers wounded at Venters Spruit 20/1/1900. This action was part of the campaign to relieve Ladysmith and 4 days later the battalion was badly cut up at Spion Kop so his earlier wound may well have saved him from a worse fate there. It's not certain that this is your man but the name is unusual and I think it's worth following up. The Lancashire Fusiliers Museum has the basic details of recruits into their two regular battalions for the period 1881 until about 1902 in the original attestation book. I once had the privilege of looking through it but it had become a bit fragile so they were in the process of transferring the details onto a database. They will check an entry but as the museum receives no official funding and the small staff are unpaid volunteers an enquiry should be accompanied by a donation. £10 is about right. The museum's address is: Lancashire Fusiliers Regimental Museum Wellington Barracks Bury Lancashire BL8 2PL I don't have an e-mail address but an internet search might reveal one. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: d_mcnay <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Thomas Sharp > Looking for information about a Private Thomas Sharp who I beleive died in > South Africa in 1900. I know he died of jaundice, but would be interested to > know if anyone can tell me what regiment he served in. I can look for his > service number if that would be useful. It's possible he may be listed as > Thomas McNay, as he was born illegitemate and used both names it seems. > > Many thanks, > > David McNay

Looking for information about a Private Thomas Sharp who I beleive died in South Africa in 1900. I know he died of jaundice, but would be interested to know if anyone can tell me what regiment he served in. I can look for his service number if that would be useful. It's possible he may be listed as Thomas McNay, as he was born illegitemate and used both names it seems. Many thanks, David McNay

Another book which is of great interest is the Hall Handbook of the Anglo-Boer War by Darrell Hall and edited by Fransjohan Pretorius and Gilbert Torlage. Full of various facts and figures, it gives a brekdown of the number of casualties for each British regiment, which is ideal for the research I'm doing.

Dear Listers, A book which covers in great detail the siege and relief of Ladysmith is "Thank God We Kept The Flag Flying" by Kenneth Griffith. My copy was published in the US so I don't have the British publisher's details but the IBSN number is 0-670-69756-7. A lot of people don't agree with his politics but the account is well written and highly readable. Regards, David

Hi everyone, I am hoping that one of the Canadian subscribers can assist me with the following. I have located two publications which would assist my research greatly. 1. "When the men left Sutera: Sicilian Mass Migration and the Women who remained behind 1880 - 1930 By Donna Gabaccia and Francaiacovetta, Eds This article was published in the book "Women, Gender and Transnational Lives" Published, Toronto, University of Toronto Press 2002. What I am seeking is a copy of the article about Sutera. 2. "Widows in White: Migration and the Transformation of Rural Italian Women, Sicily 1880 - 1920 written by L S Reeder published Toronto University Press 2003. What I am seeking is the price of this book along with the ISBN. Also the contact details, just incase I can not purchase the book in the UK. All cost and postage will re-embursed. Thanks in advance -- Regards, Julie Goucher [email protected] Anglers Rest Home Page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/index.htm Anglo Italian FHS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 ORLANDO One Name Study ~ GOONS Member 3925 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 06/05/2003

Hi everyone, I have come across the following web page and thought it worth passing along. Essendon and the Boer War http://www.members.optushome.com.au/lenorefrost/boerwar.html I will add this to the Boer War links on the web page Julie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/2003

Hi everyone, The Boer War Bibliography has now been loaded to http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm Many thanks for all your imput. --- Regards Julie Goucher, List Admin Anglers Rest Home Page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/index.htm Anglo Italian FHS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 ORLANDO One Name Study ~ GOONS Member 3925 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/2003

Hello Margaret, The only fatal casualty with the name W. Cooke shown in the casualty lists who might fit is 4563 Pte. W. Cooke 1st Battalion Liverpool Regiment who died of disease at Kaapsehoop 22 April 1901. He is buried at Kaapsehoop Cemetery and his grave is marked with a wooden cross. This is quite unusual as most contemporary wooden crosses have long since disappeared. The casualty lists sometimes give discrepant initials and slight mis-spellings, in this case possibly as W. Cook which has another 5 entries. Assuming that this is not the case and that your basic information is correct and with a possible (but tentative) link between Liverpool and North Wales the above man represents the most likely candidate for your granfather's brother. As he died on service his attestation and service papers would have been officially destroyed so unfortunately your options for further research are very limited. Regards, David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "margaret thomas" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 03 May 2003 23:54 > Subject: Tracing relative who died in Boar War. > > > > I am trying to trace my grandfathers twin brother.His name was William > Cooke.He was born in Bangor North Wales.Ido not know what regiment he was > in,but he was killed in the Boar War.He was born in 1873.I would be very > greatfull for any help. > Thank you > Margaret Thomas.

Hello List, I'm looking for information on John Crawshaw born 1873 in Fockerby, Lincoln, England. He was a soldier in the Lifeguards Reg. He was killed in the Boer War in So. Africa. I have no other information on him. He is one of my great Uncles. Thanks Thelma [email protected]

Please remove me from the mailing list. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: May 5, 2003 2:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: BOER-WAR-D Digest V03 #57

Hi David, I so very grateful to you for sending me this information about my grandfather's from the casualty records of the Boer War. It is great to know his ID number (is that what it is called?), his battalion and the place and date of his injury! I think this is definitely my grandfather - his Canadian military/medical records for WWI (where he set up field kitchens) state he was gravely injured in a battle in the Boer War in the fall of 1900. I've had a tough time finding out about my grandfather - all I have are his army records from WWI - so, this new information about him is very important to me and my quest to find out more about my grandfather. Would you or anyone else on the List, know a researcher(s) I can contact about copying the available information on PATRICK CONNOR at the PRO? Any referrals would be greatly appreciated. With many thanks, Susan

Hello Adolph, Thank you so much for your information and clarification on the ROYAL IRISH REGIMENT and the "18th". The information I have about my grandfather's army service in the Boer War is mostly from my father. He said his father, PATRICK CONNOR, was in the "18th" RIR while the copies of my grandfather's military records from WWI state he was in the RIR for 6 years. Also, my father said his father often talked about the 'big black horses' from Ireland that the cavalry used in the Boer War - my father 'assumed' from these stories that his father was in a cavalry unit. I really appreciate you forwarding the web site about the RIR. Im looking forward to going through it 'with a fine tooth comb'. Many thanks again for your help, Best Regards, Susan

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Forwarded Message ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis P. Orans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 04 May 2003 17:40 Subject: Location of SAWVL Does anybody know of what had happened to the wonderful website "South African War Virtual Library" by Robert Wotton of Queensland, AU? Last links were at: http://www.bowlerhat.com.au/sawvl/index.html. The ISP and site seem to no longer be active nor are the last few e-mail addresses for Mr. Wotton. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Lew Orans [email protected] Home of the Pine Tree Web www.pinetreeweb.com <http://www.pinetreeweb.com/> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 18/04/03

-----Original Message----- From: List Admin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 8:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOER-WAR] Replies to List >>>Are there any further book suggestions? Replies to the list please. <<< >>Regards >>Julie Goucher, List Admin. Second Anglo-Boer War (1899-1902) *BIBLIOGRAPHY. Numerous books, newspapers, documents, interviews, and letters were researched for authentic background to KRUGER’S GOLD. The following books and published sources can interest anyone who wishes to read further: With The Flag To Pretoria, H.W Wilson, Harmsworth Publishers, London, 1900. After Pretoria: The Guerilla War, H.W Wilson, Harmsworth, London, 1902. The Boer War, Thomas Packenham, Wiedenfeld, London, 1979. The Struggle For Africa 1876-1912, Thomas Packenham, Random House, New York, 1991. The Times History Of The War In South Africa, L.S. Amery, Sampson Low, London, 1903. Queen Victoria's Little Wars, Byron Farwell, Norton, NY, 1986. The War In South Africa, John A. Hobson, Nisbet, London, 1900. The Great Boer War, Byron Farwell, London, 1977. The Last of The Gentlemen's Wars, J.EC. Fuller, London, 1937. The Jameson Raid, H.M. Hole, London, 1930. The Biograph In War, W.K.L. Dickson, Fisher Unwin, 1901. The Great Boer War, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, New York, 1902. Goodbye Dolly Gray: The Story Of The Boer War, Rayne Kruger, Pan, London, 1959. The Story Of South Africa In The Transvaal War, J. Clark Ridpath, Guelph, Canada, 1900. The Last Post, Mildred G. Dooner, Cape Town, 1903. "Boer War Operations In South Africa: Extracts from reports by military attaché Capt. S.L. Slocum", United States Army, Washington, DC, 1902. ..... *Excerpted from six-page bibliography listed in “KRUGER’S GOLD: A novel of the Anglo-Boer War,” by Sidney Allinson, Xlibris Corp., Philadelphia PA www.xlibris.com/krugersgold.html

Hi All, I have had a few emails stating that some email programmes do not have a "reply to all" facility. So we can all learn from each other, and really benefit from the knowledge that is out there simply make sure that to the posting address of [email protected] is in the "To" bit of your open email. Are there any further book suggestions? Replies to the list please. --- Regards Julie Goucher, List Admin Anglers Rest Home Page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/index.htm Anglo Italian FHS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 ORLANDO One Name Study ~ GOONS Member 3925 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/2003

Forwarded Message ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 03 May 2003 23:54 Subject: Tracing relative who died in Boar War. I am trying to trace my grandfathers twin brother.His name was William Cooke.He was born in Bangor North Wales.Ido not know what regiment he was in,but he was killed in the Boar War.He was born in 1873.I would be very greatfull for any help. Thank you Margaret Thomas. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 18/04/03

The First Boer, Anglo-Boer or South African War was 1880-81 culminating in the British defeat at Majuba 9hence slogans in the Second Boer War "Remember Majuba". The Second Boer, Anglo-Boer or South African War, also at the time the Transvaal War was 1899-1902. Yours, John Wilson (Wellington, New Zealand) PS: Yes, I agree on Thomas Packenham "The Boer War" as the best book! ----- Original Message ----- > There seems to be a "conspiracy of silence" on any aspect of this war. I > searched the library here in Parksville Canada for books on the subject and > could find none. I know there were two Boer Wars but am uncertain when the > 1st one was.....

Thanks to all who responded with so much information and helpful suggestions to my "conspiracy of silence" comment. Helen in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:04 PM Subject: BOER-WAR-D Digest V03 #56

Hello Susan, The casualty lists show 1989 Pte. P. Connors 1st Battalion Royal Irish Regiment dangerously wounded at Lydenburg 7 September 1900. Despite the discrepant spelling he is the only RIR man with the name Connor/Connors shown as wounded so it is almost certainly your man. Two other men were killed in this action. Despite your location your only real chance of making any further headway is to go the PRO route and get a researcher to copy his medal and clasp entitlement in the RIR subseries WO 100/177 (all of which survive) and check for his attestation and service papers in WO 97 (not all of which survive). The Royal Irish Regiment was originally the 18th Regiment of Foot (not cavalry) but along with other infantry regiments dropped the numerical title in 1881. It was one of the regiments disbanded in 1922 following the establishment of the Irish Free State and has no connection with the current, and more recently titled, British regiment of the same name currently serving in Iraq. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan O'Connor <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] PATRICK CONNOR > Hello, > > I joined the list a while ago and I have also not seen any responses to > the various questions posted on the list. I wondered, if perhaps, these > questions were being answered 'off list'. > > I'm would love to know how to find any information about my grandfather, > PATRICK CONNOR and his 6 years in the British Army. > > He was born on June 9, 1881 in THOMASTOWN, KILKENNY, the fourth son of > a tenant farmer or farm labour. About April 1894, PATRICK, along with > his three older brothers, joined the British Army; he lied about his age > saying he was 16 years old when he was only 13 years & 10 months old! > > He was a member of the 18th ROYAL IRISH REGIMENT CALVERY, for 6 years. > Sometime in 1900, while fighting in a battle just outside Pretoria, > South Africa, PATRICK CONNOR suffered a severe shell wound, burn, large > scar and deformity to his left shoulder and shoulder joint. He did not > have full use of his left arm due to his deformed shoulder nor could he > raise his left arm from his body. Over the years, he had eleven > operations on this shoulder. > > He left South Africa and came back to Ireland on a hospital troop ship > (don't know the name?). He was a patient in a rehabilitation hospital > in Cork, County Cork in a converted mansion (don't know the name?). At > the hospital, he met ANNE KENNEDY, a nurse, who he subsequently married. > > I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada so I'm not able to go to Kew Gardens to > look up his service records. I anyone can give any ideas as to where to > look for more information on him, his regiment, the troop ship he was > on, the rehab hospital in County Cork, I would be forever grateful. > > Many thanks in advance for any response to my message, > Susan