According to the family folklore my uncle Jack Macmorland (b. 29 Aug. 1881, in Ayrshire, Scotland, d. 5 Nov. 1953) fought in the Boer war. I have no further information than that about his war-time activities. After the war he served in the Cape Mounted Police for some years then in the first world war as an intelligence Officer in the King's African Rifles in German Southwest Africa. He is rumoured to have married in South Africa. Any information about him or suggestions as to useful sources would be gratefully received. Peter McWhirter.

Hello Simon, 3516 Driver S.L. Treece 'U' Battery Royal Horse Artillery was taken prisoner at Sannah's Post 31/3/1900 and later released. In this action in the Orange Free State Christiaan de Wet's Boer Commandos ambushed a British column including 'U' and 'Q' Batteries RHA. 'U' were first into the trap and lost 5 guns and almost all its complement were taken prisoner. 'Q' lost two guns but recovered others, an action which resulted in 4 of the battery being awarded the Victoria Cross. This is a famous action and any Boer War history will describe it in more detail. 'U' Battery certainly served in the relief of Kimberley but weren't at Ladysmith. Being an artillery driver his job would have been to ride the horses pulling a gun carriage as you mention. He wouldn't have been in prison with Winston Churchill as Churchill had escaped long before he was taken prisoner himself. I suggest you first search subseries WO 100/139 which contains the Queen's South Africa Medal rolls for the RHA as well as the King's South Africa Medal rolls which are also in WO 100. You could then try WO 97 for his service papers which may have survived. If unsuccessful there you could then try WO 363 for WW1 papers (in case he also served in WW1) as papers of the Boer War period are sometimes found with WW1 papers. About 30% of Boer War era and 60% of WW1 papers were destroyed in the Blitz. My information is that first time visitors to the PRO need to obtain a reader's ticket in advance. If you haven't already done so you might want to check this out before you go. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:39 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Finding someone from the 2nd Boer war > This coming saturday iam travelling to London to the Public Records Office in > the hope of finding some details about my Great Grandfather.His name was > Samuel Treece and from a newspaper cutting I have from the 1950's which he appears > in he indicates he enlisted in London in 1898 and took part in the relief of > Kimberly along with other things but does not mention what other than he was a > POW for 9 weeks. > He died in 1960.As this was over 10 years before I was even born I know very > little about him. > My uncle has told me all he knows is that Samuel Treece used to reffer to > something called the royal horse which I presume is the royal horse artillery.My > uncle said he also mentioned Ladysmith.Iam told he rode a horse pulling a gun > carriage. > Its said he maintained he was in a POW camp with winston Churchill but who > knows. > Later after the boer war he spent time at the Curragh military camp in > Ireland. > The most annoying thing is he got medals etc for his time in the Boer War but > these vanished out of the family when he died. > These could have proved useful for tracing his life. > Does anyone know what would be the best place to look at the PRO to give me > the best chance of finding my great grandfather in the limited time I will > have. > Also can anyone surgest what the most likely regiment my great grandfather > could have been in taking into account the places I mention. > Thanks in advance. > Simon > Derby > UK

Hi there I am trying to find my grandfather's brother AMOS FREDERICK DAVIS b. May 01, 1875 and am thinking perhaps he went into the BOER WAR. I have searched the internet for him, the 1901 census in England and Canada, my CD's, asked descendants of his siblings about him and even had a researcher in England look for him but he seems to have disappeared. The last information on Amos was in 1891 he was a 16 year old chemist assistant who lived on the census at 2 Hedgley Street, Lee, Kent, England. In 1881 he lived at 3 Robertson Mews, Lee, Kent, England. thanks for reading this Judy in Canada

Dvr S L Treece, number 3516, was capturewd at Sannah's Post 02 31st March 1900. He was in U Bty RHA ( Royal Horse Artillery?) and was later released. That's all the Casualty Roll has. Hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:39 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Finding someone from the 2nd Boer war > This coming saturday iam travelling to London to the Public Records Office in > the hope of finding some details about my Great Grandfather.His name was > Samuel Treece and from a newspaper cutting I have from the 1950's which he appears > in he indicates he enlisted in London in 1898 and took part in the relief of > Kimberly along with other things but does not mention what other than he was a > POW for 9 weeks. > He died in 1960.As this was over 10 years before I was even born I know very > little about him. > My uncle has told me all he knows is that Samuel Treece used to reffer to > something called the royal horse which I presume is the royal horse artillery.My > uncle said he also mentioned Ladysmith.Iam told he rode a horse pulling a gun > carriage. > Its said he maintained he was in a POW camp with winston Churchill but who > knows. > Later after the boer war he spent time at the Curragh military camp in > Ireland. > The most annoying thing is he got medals etc for his time in the Boer War but > these vanished out of the family when he died. > These could have proved useful for tracing his life. > Does anyone know what would be the best place to look at the PRO to give me > the best chance of finding my great grandfather in the limited time I will > have. > Also can anyone surgest what the most likely regiment my great grandfather > could have been in taking into account the places I mention. > Thanks in advance. > Simon > Derby > UK > > > Due to email spamming the following domains are blocked from sending me mail. > DOMAINS > @datingdirect > @yupimail.com > @china.com > @ev1.net > @be.formarket.biz > @sd12.hostserve21.com > @cwix.com > @financial-update.biz > If you use these domains/addresses iam sorry but you are unable to contact > me. > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 31/08/03 22:26:26 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Thanks for the fast feedback.Well I guess this gives me some details to > work > on if this turns out to be my man. > Iam new to all this Boer War stuff so am abit unsure as to what Dvr is-would > > that be something like Driver? Iam just not sure about the S L Treece as I > have no record of a second initial/name. > From this information if it is my great grandfather whats the best use I can > > make of this information? > Where could I get to see something like the casualty roll? > In a bizzar twist since sending that last post I spoke to my uncle about the reply from Dave Mcnay and how it seemed quite promising other than the second initial being L only for him to say well its funny you should say that but I meant to tell you when we last spoke at one point great grandfather styled himself SAMUEL LEWELLEN TREECE. I think we have our man. Simon Derby UK Due to email spamming the following domains are blocked from sending me mail. DOMAINS @datingdirect @yupimail.com @china.com @ev1.net @be.formarket.biz @sd12.hostserve21.com @cwix.com @financial-update.biz If you use these domains/addresses iam sorry but you are unable to contact me.

In a message dated 31/08/03 21:37:08 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Dvr S L Treece, number 3516, was capturewd at Sannah's Post 02 31st March > 1900. He was in U Bty RHA ( Royal Horse Artillery?) and was later released. > > That's all the Casualty Roll has. Hope this helps. > Thanks for the fast feedback.Well I guess this gives me some details to work on if this turns out to be my man. Iam new to all this Boer War stuff so am abit unsure as to what Dvr is-would that be something like Driver? Iam just not sure about the S L Treece as I have no record of a second initial/name. From this information if it is my great grandfather whats the best use I can make of this information? Where could I get to see something like the casualty roll? Thanks again Simon Derby UK Due to email spamming the following domains are blocked from sending me mail. DOMAINS @datingdirect @yupimail.com @china.com @ev1.net @be.formarket.biz @sd12.hostserve21.com @cwix.com @financial-update.biz If you use these domains/addresses iam sorry but you are unable to contact me.

This coming saturday iam travelling to London to the Public Records Office in the hope of finding some details about my Great Grandfather.His name was Samuel Treece and from a newspaper cutting I have from the 1950's which he appears in he indicates he enlisted in London in 1898 and took part in the relief of Kimberly along with other things but does not mention what other than he was a POW for 9 weeks. He died in 1960.As this was over 10 years before I was even born I know very little about him. My uncle has told me all he knows is that Samuel Treece used to reffer to something called the royal horse which I presume is the royal horse artillery.My uncle said he also mentioned Ladysmith.Iam told he rode a horse pulling a gun carriage. Its said he maintained he was in a POW camp with winston Churchill but who knows. Later after the boer war he spent time at the Curragh military camp in Ireland. The most annoying thing is he got medals etc for his time in the Boer War but these vanished out of the family when he died. These could have proved useful for tracing his life. Does anyone know what would be the best place to look at the PRO to give me the best chance of finding my great grandfather in the limited time I will have. Also can anyone surgest what the most likely regiment my great grandfather could have been in taking into account the places I mention. Thanks in advance. Simon Derby UK Due to email spamming the following domains are blocked from sending me mail. DOMAINS @datingdirect @yupimail.com @china.com @ev1.net @be.formarket.biz @sd12.hostserve21.com @cwix.com @financial-update.biz If you use these domains/addresses iam sorry but you are unable to contact me.

Good Morning Mel and others, The above seminar will be held over the week-end of 4th and 5th Octpber 2003. Venue is the Upton Room of the Box Hill RSL,Nelson St. Box Hill. Registration cost will be $25 which includes lunch on Saturday. On that day there will be about 7 speakers plus a works in progrss session. This will be supported by a number of displays set up around the room. Dinner is avaiable at the club for those who wish to stay on and have a chat. Sunday will be made up of a number of excursions to sites around Melbourne. Registration or further enquiries may be directed to Robin Droogleever at P.O. Box 42 Bulleen Vic. 3105 Regards George Ward Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Mel Green [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Anglo-BOER WAR Seminar in Melbourne George Really appreciate if you can give more detail on the meeting, time etc and is this over both the 4th and 5th October? Regards.......Mel ----- Original Message ----- From: George Ward <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:29 AM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Anglo-BOER WAR Seminar in Melbourne > Good morning all, > For those with an interest in the Boer War. > The Anglo-Boer War Study Group which meet in Melbourne are holding a Seminar > to mark it's 10th.anniversary at the Box Hill > RSL on the 4-5th. October 2003. There will be a number of speakers supported > by displays. > I am sure anybody with a genuine interest would be more than welcome to > attend. > > Regards > > George Ward Melbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leigh Willoughby [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2003 2:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BOER-WAR] Grave locations Required > > > Hello listers, > I am putting a website together for the ten New Zealand > Contingents that went to the Boer War, I am looking for relatives who could > help locate the graves of these soldiers and hopefully a picture of the > soldier himself. Their are 6125 soldiers in all and this site will include > all the veterans as well. I have all the names but need to locate them, if > anyone can help please contact me. TIA. > > > > Regards Leigh > Hokitika, > Best Place in N.Z. > [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find your perfect match @ http://personals.xtramsn.co.nz with XtraMSN > Personals! > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War Reading > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War List Page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

David, That's really terrific. I know it sounds bizarre as I obviously never knew him but for some reason I thought it was important that I should know more about how he died. I really appreciate your help. Cheers Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Humphry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Can anyone help? > Hello Kathy, > > 2568 Colour Sgt. J.K. Aspey 1st Battalion Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire > Light Infantry was killed in action near Goedgedacht 18/3/1901. It looks > like this was a skirmish in the northern Transvaal involving a Mounted > Infantry detachment. 3 men, including your g-g-f, were killed and 3 wounded. > He appears to have no known grave. > > Regards, > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Wilson <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:52 PM > Subject: [BOER-WAR] Can anyone help? > > > > Hello list! > > > > I'm trying to find some more details on my great grandfather who was > killed in the BOER war. His name was John Aspey and he was a Colour Sergeant > in the Oxfordshire ( and Bucks?) Light Infantry. Have tried the Ox & Bucks > website but no luck and attempted the 1881 census ( I believe he was about > 35 when he died so I would have thought he would be on there but I could not > find any info) .His family were scattered after his death and my grandmother > as the youngest of several children had no records. > > > > Would be grateful to anyone who can point me in the right direction > > > > Cheers > > > > Kathy Reid > > > > > > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War Reading > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

George Really appreciate if you can give more detail on the meeting, time etc and is this over both the 4th and 5th October? Regards.......Mel ----- Original Message ----- From: George Ward <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:29 AM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Anglo-BOER WAR Seminar in Melbourne > Good morning all, > For those with an interest in the Boer War. > The Anglo-Boer War Study Group which meet in Melbourne are holding a Seminar > to mark it's 10th.anniversary at the Box Hill > RSL on the 4-5th. October 2003. There will be a number of speakers supported > by displays. > I am sure anybody with a genuine interest would be more than welcome to > attend. > > Regards > > George Ward Melbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leigh Willoughby [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2003 2:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BOER-WAR] Grave locations Required > > > Hello listers, > I am putting a website together for the ten New Zealand > Contingents that went to the Boer War, I am looking for relatives who could > help locate the graves of these soldiers and hopefully a picture of the > soldier himself. Their are 6125 soldiers in all and this site will include > all the veterans as well. I have all the names but need to locate them, if > anyone can help please contact me. TIA. > > > > Regards Leigh > Hokitika, > Best Place in N.Z. > [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find your perfect match @ http://personals.xtramsn.co.nz with XtraMSN > Personals! > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War Reading > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarReading.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello My grandad was in Boer War, he lied about being two years younger so that he could enlist. He was also in the first World war.I have his RFA Number which is 33983. However I do not know if this number refers to the Boer War or First World War. Can anyone help please as to where to look? Can I obtain his records using this number and if so where from? I was told he was an Artillery Driver and he worked for a Captain Lascelles who died mine laying. Thank you for your time Pat

Hello Kathy, 2568 Colour Sgt. J.K. Aspey 1st Battalion Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry was killed in action near Goedgedacht 18/3/1901. It looks like this was a skirmish in the northern Transvaal involving a Mounted Infantry detachment. 3 men, including your g-g-f, were killed and 3 wounded. He appears to have no known grave. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Wilson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Can anyone help? > Hello list! > > I'm trying to find some more details on my great grandfather who was killed in the BOER war. His name was John Aspey and he was a Colour Sergeant in the Oxfordshire ( and Bucks?) Light Infantry. Have tried the Ox & Bucks website but no luck and attempted the 1881 census ( I believe he was about 35 when he died so I would have thought he would be on there but I could not find any info) .His family were scattered after his death and my grandmother as the youngest of several children had no records. > > Would be grateful to anyone who can point me in the right direction > > Cheers > > Kathy Reid

Kevin, Although not Boer War related, 'Soldiers Died in the Great War' gives the following additional information on your great grandfather: 41087 Sargeant Charles William Bugden 1/4th Bn, Leicestershire Regt. Born and resident in Ulcombe, Kent Enlisted Maidstone, Kent Died of wounds 28.10.1918 France & Flanders Formerly 9199 Royal West Kent Regt. Regards Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin.pearson1 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 27 August 2003 7:40 pm > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Where to start? > > Hello Everybody, > > After reading the introductory pages (which, by coincidence, somebody at > work had downloaded for me today!), I get the distinct feeling I might as > well give up now! > > I have been trying to find my Great Grandfather, Charles William Bugden, on > the 1901 census and couldn't for the life of me understand why I couldn't > find him . . . .and it has only just dawned on me that he wasn't even in the > country! (I know, I know . . . bit dim or what?!). I have recently had a > conversation with my cousin and her father (my uncle) has my G.Grandfathers' > discharge papers from his time in the Boer War - but is not letting anybody > see them - an absolute waste since none of his children are interested in > the family history . . .ah well. > > Just in case anybody has come across any information, Charles William Bugden > was born in Ulcombe, Kent 15.10.1882. He joined the Army after lying about > his age and, according to my cousin, spent at least the first part of his > time in the Boer War guarding prisoners on an island (St Helena springs to > mind - unless there were other islands?). I am presuming that he was in the > Buffs but that is only based on his geographical birthplace and lifelong > residence in Ulcombe. Between the Boer War and WWI he was back in Ulcombe, > getting married and raising three daughters then, with the arrival of WWI he > joined up again but was in the Leicestershire Regt. He was made a sergeant, > but was unlucky enough to be killed in action. His death cert. gives date of > death as 28.10.1918. > > If anybody has any clue as to what to do (based on the sparseness of my > information) to try and obtain some futher details?? > > Thanks > > Kevin Pearson

Good morning all, For those with an interest in the Boer War. The Anglo-Boer War Study Group which meet in Melbourne are holding a Seminar to mark it's 10th.anniversary at the Box Hill RSL on the 4-5th. October 2003. There will be a number of speakers supported by displays. I am sure anybody with a genuine interest would be more than welcome to attend. Regards George Ward Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Leigh Willoughby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2003 2:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOER-WAR] Grave locations Required Hello listers, I am putting a website together for the ten New Zealand Contingents that went to the Boer War, I am looking for relatives who could help locate the graves of these soldiers and hopefully a picture of the soldier himself. Their are 6125 soldiers in all and this site will include all the veterans as well. I have all the names but need to locate them, if anyone can help please contact me. TIA. Regards Leigh Hokitika, Best Place in N.Z. [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Find your perfect match @ http://personals.xtramsn.co.nz with XtraMSN Personals! ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== List Admin Message http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Trevor try joining the South Africa British Immigrants list at rootsweb - very helpful lot who have access to a great deal of material Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: David Humphry To: [email protected] Sent: 28 August 2003 18:26 Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] 16th Lancers at Fredericksdorp Trevor, Some men took their discharge in South Africa with a view to settling there. I imagine a man who transferred to the Army Reserve while still in SA would need special permission to do so but it seems most likely that Burn did just that. The fledgling SAC (effectively the British armed and mounted police force of the Transvaal) was formed during the Boer War and many British soldiers were transferred to it for war service. After the war when many of these men returned to the UK it would have been in need of experienced men to carry on. The Natal Carbineers were a local unit formed in Natal and during the war served in the Ladysmith campaign. I believe their descendant regiment is still part of the SA army today. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Hancock <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] 16th Lancers at Fredericksdorp > Hello David > > Many thanks for your message and the information on the 16th Lancers at > Lindley in January 1901. Pte Burn was the man I was interested in so your > email was most helpful.. > > You maybe interested to know that according to his 16th Lancers Service > Record, Arthur Burn recovered from his wounds and was transferred to the > reserve in South Africa in 1902 finally being discharged in 1906. He then > emigrated to Australia and joined the 10th Australian Light Horse on the > outbreak of WW1 and was killed in action at Gallipoli in August 1915. > > I also have his Australian Service Record which mentions that he spent 3 > years with the SA Constabulary and 3 months with the Natal Cabiniers > (whatever they were). I presume that he served with these two latter units > after he transferred to the army reserve. However, this is not clear from > his records. > > Kind regards > > Trevor Hancock ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Getting Started on Boer War Research? http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWInfo.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Re the Boer War Mailing List on Rootsweb, the website address is now: http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm Other websites are: SADF Roll of Honour, includes 29,000 Anglo-Boer War Casualties: http://www.lib.sun.ac.za/roh/roh.exe?MenuItem=Home Tracing Ancestors who fought: http://www.mil.za/Magazines/SALUT/9how_to_trace_an_ancestor.htm Bibliography, Books, Internet Sites etc: http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/boer/boerwr.htm Australian Contribution: http://www.awm.gov.au/atwar/boer.htm Canadian Contribution: http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=feature/100africa New Zealand Contribution http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/SAW/index.htm Yours, John Wilson (Wellington, New Zealand)

Hi David, Thanks so much for your reply and the excellent leads it seems as if someone at Kew needs their butt kicked, will certainly follow up . Thanks to all on the list for your help. Regards Steve & Valerie Compton (N.Z.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Humphry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 06:02 Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Where to start? > Hello Steve & Valerie, > > In general new subscribers to this list are best advised to first check the > introduction page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWinfo.htm . > However I have a copy of the privately published Imperial Yeomanry medal > roll and can tell you that the National Archive (aka PRO) at Kew has given > you incorrect information. A proportion of the service records of the > Regular Army of the period in series WO 97 were indeed destroyed in WW2 but > the Imperial Yeomanry weren't Regular Army and their records survive almost > completely in series WO 128. It seems to me that the person who checked the > files for your grandfather looked in the wrong series and unsurprisingly > came up with a nil result. > > The medal roll shows that 21460 Sydney (sic) Buckingham 7th (Leicestershire) > Company, 4th Battalion Imperial Yeomanry was awarded the Queen's South > Africa Medal with clasps Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, South > Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902. Because the roll shows his full name this > means that the author (Kevin Asplin) has physically seen his file at the PRO > when compiling the roll. I therefore suggest you revert to Kew with this > information, get them to check in the correct series and send you a copy > of his service record for which you have already paid. > > Regards, > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Valerie Compton <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:31 AM > Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Where to start? > > > > Hi Chris, We are having similar problems trying to find out about my > > Grandfather's records and how to go about sourcing them. We have been on > > several web sites with very limited results, and my cousin has written to > > Kew for my Grandfathers records and they have come back records lost in > the > > blitz....after paying 32 pound. We are looking for private 21460 Sidney > > Buckingham, 7th co. Imperial Yeomanry. Any information or web sites that > > you get, we would be greatful if you would pass them on to us. > > Regards Steve and Valerie Compton (N.Z.) > > > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello list! I'm trying to find some more details on my great grandfather who was killed in the BOER war. His name was John Aspey and he was a Colour Sergeant in the Oxfordshire ( and Bucks?) Light Infantry. Have tried the Ox & Bucks website but no luck and attempted the 1881 census ( I believe he was about 35 when he died so I would have thought he would be on there but I could not find any info) .His family were scattered after his death and my grandmother as the youngest of several children had no records. Would be grateful to anyone who can point me in the right direction Cheers Kathy Reid

Hello David Thanks for that I will pay my tenner then and keep my fingers crossed Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Humphry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Where to start? > Hello Pamela, > > I don't know if there's any pattern to the section of records destroyed in > the blitz. I've had searches done for the papers of men in the same unit and > some are there and some not so it seems to be pot luck. > > Regards, > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pamela Simmons <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Where to start? > > > > Hello David > > Do you know which portion of the WO97 records were lost? I applied to PRO > > and paid my tenner they replied saying I had got the wrong archive. I have > > foundthe right number beginning WO97 but I dont fancy paying another ten > > pounds to be told they have been destroyed. I am looking for the records > > on Corporal Henry Richard Eames of the 2nd Middlesex Regiment. I have a > > collection of his medals . He served in Ahmednagar before going to South > > Africa > > Pamela > > > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Trevor, Some men took their discharge in South Africa with a view to settling there. I imagine a man who transferred to the Army Reserve while still in SA would need special permission to do so but it seems most likely that Burn did just that. The fledgling SAC (effectively the British armed and mounted police force of the Transvaal) was formed during the Boer War and many British soldiers were transferred to it for war service. After the war when many of these men returned to the UK it would have been in need of experienced men to carry on. The Natal Carbineers were a local unit formed in Natal and during the war served in the Ladysmith campaign. I believe their descendant regiment is still part of the SA army today. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Hancock <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] 16th Lancers at Fredericksdorp > Hello David > > Many thanks for your message and the information on the 16th Lancers at > Lindley in January 1901. Pte Burn was the man I was interested in so your > email was most helpful.. > > You maybe interested to know that according to his 16th Lancers Service > Record, Arthur Burn recovered from his wounds and was transferred to the > reserve in South Africa in 1902 finally being discharged in 1906. He then > emigrated to Australia and joined the 10th Australian Light Horse on the > outbreak of WW1 and was killed in action at Gallipoli in August 1915. > > I also have his Australian Service Record which mentions that he spent 3 > years with the SA Constabulary and 3 months with the Natal Cabiniers > (whatever they were). I presume that he served with these two latter units > after he transferred to the army reserve. However, this is not clear from > his records. > > Kind regards > > Trevor Hancock