Hi, Try this, with web addresses it is just a case of removing the formatting, Maureen Knight http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html - Original Message ----- From: DerekHolmes To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] help with lists of those who served Hi I get the same with this link Pat ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003

Hello Kevin and Listers, I had no trouble getting into Kevin's excellent site though the URL is followed by its html code and needs a little editing. I found whom I think is my great uncle recorded there and now have his service number which will facilitate investigation at the PRO. I have written to thank Kevin off list. The site is a great resource. Brian Cook Helensburgh Scotland

Hi Kevin Tried the latest address you have posted but it still says it is not available and something is wrong with this address.Can you check it please Pat

Hi I get the same with this link Pat

Hi Pat & List: Details of the Anglo-French WWI Salonica Campaign in northern Greece from 1915 in support of the Serbs is given in: http://www.salonika.freeserve.co.uk/ Yours, John Wilson (Wellington, New Zealand) > I haven't any information on my grandad's army days. His daughter is still alive but all she can remember is that he was in Salonica Egypt and she thinks he was a driver. He used to also have lots of framed postcards(like panoramic photos, wide and very narrow ) of Egypt on the wall when I was young. He was born in 1883 so I figured it may have been Boar War 1899-1902, if he lied about his age .However it seems that this war was in and around Johannesburg and not in Egypt! So therefore I do not know which war or where to start with the search. I was trying to find possible regiments he may have been in. Can anyone shed any light on where Salonica is. I found it in the Atlas which referred me to Thessalonika in Greece! Was there another Salonica somewhere? > > Pat >

Hello Kevin, I just wanted to tell you that I had no problem getting into your site. It is pretty impressive. I found my great uncle, John Albert Schneider, on there. I knew his rank and regiment but just wanted to see if he was there and he was. I had to cut the web address in half. I don't know why it is but I guess it is the setting on my computer and the senders computer that causes the address of some sites to repeat - see below (if it hasn't changed back to the way it should be when you get it). Carol Lylyk Calgary, Alberta Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] help with lists of those who served > Judy, > > You will find a few on my recently started web site.. with a few more to > come.. > > <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html">http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html</A> > > Kevin

Hi David & List: Lt-Col Herbert Plumer took part in the relief of Mafeking and was a commander of a mobile unit or "column" largely of Australians and Canadian artillery. He was a dandy with a monocle but got on with the "colonial" troops. Later in guerrilla phase of war commanded a mobile column in pursuit of De Wet. A "bright young man" (see The Boer War by Thomas Packenham) later notable in WWI, becoming Baron Plumer of Messines & Bilton. See: http://www.pinetreeweb.com/saw-plumer.htm http://www.1914-1918.net/plumer_bio.htm Yours, John Wilson (New Zealand) > Researching some Scottish casualties and came across a reference in the > casualty list to a "Plumer's Force". > > Can anyone tell me what this refers to? > > Regards, David McNay

Dear List I haven't any information on my grandad's army days. His daughter is still alive but all she can remember is that he was in Salonica Egypt and she thinks he was a driver. He used to also have lots of framed postcards(like panoramic photos, wide and very narrow ) of Egypt on the wall when I was young. He was born in 1883 so I figured it may have been Boar War 1899-1902, if he lied about his age .However it seems that this war was in and around Johannesburg and not in Egypt! So therefore I do not know which war or where to start with the search. I was trying to find possible regiments he may have been in. Can anyone shed any light on where Salonica is. I found it in the Atlas which referred me to Thessalonika in Greece! Was there another Salonica somewhere? Pat

Hi David & List: Lt-Col Herbert Plumer took part in the relief of Mafeking and was a commander of a mobile unit or "column" largely of Australians and Canadian artillery. He was a dandy with a monocle but got on with the "colonial" troops. Later in guerrilla phase of war commanded a mobile column in pursuit of De Wet. A "bright young man" (see The Boer War by Thomas Packenham) later notable in WWI, becoming Baron Plumer of Messines & Bilton. See: http://www.pinetreeweb.com/saw-plumer.htm http://www.1914-1918.net/plumer_bio.htm Yours, John Wilson (New Zealand) > Researching some Scottish casualties and came across a reference in the > casualty list to a "Plumer's Force". > > Can anyone tell me what this refers to? > > Regards, David McNay

Kevin Could you please correct your link? I just get a `this page is unavailable' message . . . Ta Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] help with lists of those who served > Judy, > > You will find a few on my recently started web site.. with a few more to > come.. > > <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html">http://hometown.aol.c o.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html</A> > > Kevin > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I would just like to thank list memebers who helped me in my quest to find the military records of my great grandfather Samuel Treece.As list members may remember I had my first visit to the Public Records Office coming up and so I joined this list to try and get some help as I knew very little about what my Great Grandfather did in the Boer War or when his military career ended which made things seem pretty tough. Within hours of posting what I knew about Samuel Treece I got responses from list members who had found one S L TREECE on a casualty role also stating he was in U battery Royal Horse Artillery. Yesterday (Sat) I visited the PRO on a bus trip with my local family history society. After being shown around and where to find things I set off on my quest. I first went through WO100/139 microfilm checking the different batteries of the Royal Horse Artillery for a mention of Samuel Treece and found 3516 DRIVER TREECE S L in U battery as mentioned before.He got the Queens South Africa Medal along with 4 clasps those were for PAARDEBERG DREIFONTEIN RELIEF OF KIMBERLEY and TRANSVAAL having printed a copy of the page off I went in search of my Holy Grail his service records.I didnt really know where to start as I had no idea when he left the army.I asked in a section where people give out advice and things didnt look good as the person said not many service papers survive from the boer war.(which wasnt what the pro said in an email to me) It was also pointed out he could have continued into the 14-18 war although I knew he was back locally in 1912 but talk was he did something in the 14-18 war.Anyway I picked up a few leaflets and had a read and found that WO 97 for the years 1900-1913 were arranged alphabetically and I was pretty sure he would be in that section if any.These documents were originals so I had to brave the computer ordering system to order what I wanted.in my case WO 97 6101 (Iam alittle confused as I just noted the ticket they placed next to the records when copying for me said WO 95 6101) Then it was a case of waiting for the file to arrive which was about 30 minutes.I then sat and very carefully opened the box and worked through the army service papers gradually reaching the section where if my great grandfathers papers were anywhere they should be there. I turned one over and found one Ernest Treece from Nottingham who joined up in Derby and went into the RHA.Derby is my home city.This person was a potential relative.And then I turned the next document and it was hard not to leap up and shout EUREKA I had found MY SAMUEL LLEWELLYN TREECE. NO 3516 and from his details I knew it was my great grandfather.It was such a wonderful feeling.Unlike some army papers which contained alot of papers his was just the 4 sides of standard stuff but interesting reading all the same and such a find as it gives pointers to his marriage etc.It also indicates he got the Kings medal and clasps 01 and 02 what ever those clasps were. What other documents could I view with other details of my Great Grandfather? is it possible to view things such as pay etc. I noted there is another section of army service papers all that were misfiled is there any chance more of his records could be hiding in this section or have I got all I can get? Thanks again. Simon Derby UK Due to email spamming the following domains are blocked from sending me mail. DOMAINS @datingdirect @yupimail.com @china.com @ev1.net @be.formarket.biz @sd12.hostserve21.com @cwix.com @financial-update.biz If you use these domains/addresses iam sorry but you are unable to contact me.

Judy, You will find a few on my recently started web site.. with a few more to come.. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html">http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html</A> Kevin

Hi there I am curious as to where I could please find a list of soldiers who served in the Boer War. Is there a site? Judy in Canada

Researching some Scottish casualties and came across a reference in the casualty list to a "Plumer's Force". Can anyone tell me what this refers to? Regards, David McNay

Peter I have a picture of my great grandfather's regiment from the Boer War. The picture was taken 1906. The uniforms the men were in look very different than the uniform Walter is wearing. My great grand father, James Russell Harry Walker was in the Lord Baden-Powell's South African Constabulary, also, he was a 3rd Class Trooper. He joined on march 8 1901 and was discharged march 20 1903, which was confirmed at Bloomfontain, Orange River Colony. The training he received was paid for by Baron de Rothschild, and they were known as the Lord Baden-Powell police. The medal in the picture you have posted may be called Queen's South Africa Medal, and I believe it was a campaign medal. Sorry if I haven't been any help, but this is all I know. If you are able to learn any more, please let me know, as I would be very interested in learning more about my great grandfather's history. Maureen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] South African Constabulary >Dear listers > > We are researching WALTER BENHAM .. Born 13th April 1877 at New Alresford >Hants UK >He married Charlotte Bowles on 26th December 1904 at Blindley Heath near >Godstone Sy. > >He was known to have served in the South African Constabulary (mounted >police). > >We are trying to identify him from a photograph which we can be seen on a web >page as follows > ><A HREF="www.pjrpix.co.uk/wb">Click here: www.pjrpix.co.uk/wb</A> > >Can anyone confirm that this is perhaps the uniform of the Boer War? > >In 1900 we believe he was living at Abinger Hammer or Godstone on the >Surrey/Sussex border. > > Is there any where we can find out where he enlisted and on which ship he >travelled to South Africa and the campaigns he was likely to have been involved >in? > >Many thanks > > >Peter Ruffle > > > > > > > > > > > >==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== >Getting Started on Boer War Research? >http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWInfo.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear listers We are researching WALTER BENHAM .. Born 13th April 1877 at New Alresford Hants UK He married Charlotte Bowles on 26th December 1904 at Blindley Heath near Godstone Sy. He was known to have served in the South African Constabulary (mounted police). We are trying to identify him from a photograph which we can be seen on a web page as follows <A HREF="www.pjrpix.co.uk/wb">Click here: www.pjrpix.co.uk/wb</A> Can anyone confirm that this is perhaps the uniform of the Boer War? In 1900 we believe he was living at Abinger Hammer or Godstone on the Surrey/Sussex border. Is there any where we can find out where he enlisted and on which ship he travelled to South Africa and the campaigns he was likely to have been involved in? Many thanks Peter Ruffle

Hi, I'm trying to discover if my g grandfather Edwin Reginald Eastman served in the Boer war. I have him located as follows: Confirmed Service from marriage certificate and birth certificates of his children. On Marriage: Jan 28 1893, No 8039 Sergeant in Rifle Brigade based at Winchester.( batallion unspecified.) On birth of Edwin George: March 24 1894, No 8039 Sergeant in 2nd Bn Rifle Brigade Winchester On birth of Katherine Isabel 11 Nov 1895, No 8039 Sergeant in 2nd Bn Rifle Brigade Hong Kong On birth of Charles Walter 8 May 1897, No 8039 Sergeant in 2nd Bn Rifle Brigade Aldershot 1901 Census: Edwin Eastman aged 32 at Woolwich. RG13/568 refers. Color Sergeant of 5th Rifle Brigade, >From death certificate Died 1918 serving with 1st rifle brigade Folkestone as a Sergeant Major. can anyone advise me if the 2nd Rifle Brigade went to the Boer War? Was the 5th Rifle Brigade batallion a recruiting unit, thus perhaps my grandfather missed the war completely? many thanks Peter Eastman

Hello Peter, You're in luck. With his later service in the Cape Police I thought that he may have started out in the Imperial Yeomanry and when I checked the roll there he was. His entry reads: 1469 Private John Jack McMorland 17th (Ayrshire) Co. 6th Battalion Imperal Yeomanry was entitled to the Queen's South Africa Medal with clasps Cape Colony, Transvaal, Wittebergen & South Africa 1901. The remarks column confirms he was later 1116 Private with the Cape Police District 2. His IY attestation and service papers survive in series WO 128 at the PRO. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter McWhirter <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] J.Macmorland. > According to the family folklore my uncle Jack Macmorland (b. 29 Aug. 1881, in Ayrshire, Scotland, d. 5 Nov. 1953) fought in the Boer war. I have no further information than that about his war-time activities. After the war he served in the Cape Mounted Police for some years then in the first world war as an intelligence Officer in the King's African Rifles in German Southwest Africa. He is rumoured to have married in South Africa. Any information about him or suggestions as to useful sources would be gratefully received. > Peter McWhirter.

A recent post or two said the following.> > > 3516 Driver S.L. Treece 'U' Battery Royal Horse Artillery was taken prisoner > at Sannah's Post 31/3/1900 and later released. In this action in the Orange > Free State Christiaan de Wet's Boer Commandos ambushed a British column > including 'U' and 'Q' Batteries RHA. 'U' > > Can someone advise me what the number 3516 means and also when I have been > poking around I often find refference to 1st reg,2nd reg Royal horse artillery > etc. > As we can see iam interested in something called U battery was this U > battery a stand alone group or part of a regiment if it was part of a regiment then > what reg was it? > Thanks alot for the feed back so far. > Simon > Derby > UK Due to email spamming the following domains are blocked from sending me mail. DOMAINS @datingdirect @yupimail.com @china.com @ev1.net @be.formarket.biz @sd12.hostserve21.com @cwix.com @financial-update.biz If you use these domains/addresses iam sorry but you are unable to contact me.

Dear Simon, Regarding your ancestors name in War records, one of my uncles offered this explanation for changed names in the war to my cousin before he died. My grandad was Albert Joseph Barnett,(birth certificate) however he was known, on some documents we have as Albert Edward Barnett, which confused me when I started to research. Apparently when soldiers were enlisted a lot of names were common,particularly religious names and names like Albert(from Prince Albert) so the army would allocate a different name to identify men who enlisted with the same name. Perhaps a second name was added to identify your ancestor?? Regards Pat