Do get in touch with the Lincoln Archives. They have so much fascinating stuff and will I am sure be able to help. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2003 02:47 AM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Old Soldiers Prayer Book > Dear friends, > > I purchased a Soldiers pocket prayer book from a > flea-market near to where I live. > > > > The Prayer book was published by the Society for promoting knowledge and > dated 1853. > > > > On the inside front cover page is the following inscription: > > > > Gunr & Driver Robt. BOOR > > No. 5 Company > > 12 Battalion Royal Artillery > > British Camp Crimea > > 1855 to 29 June 1856 > > India, from 31 December 1857 > > To 23 May 1863. > > China, from June 63 to 1865 > > India from 1865 to October 1866 > > then home. > > > > His address is given as Cowbit, Near, Spalding Lincolnshire. > > I looked on the IGI and found a Robert BOOR who was christened on 13th Sept. > 1818 at Spalding, Lincoln. He was the nearest match. If this was him, he > would have been 37 years of age in 1855 and 48 years of age when he returned > home from India in 1866. > > > > Does anyone know anyone researching the BOOR family from Lincolnshire? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War List Page > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks for that information Pat. Regards Martin -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Frykberg [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 September 2003 18:53 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Old Soldiers Prayer Book Do get in touch with the Lincoln Archives. They have so much fascinating stuff and will I am sure be able to help. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2003 02:47 AM Subject: [BOER-WAR] Old Soldiers Prayer Book > Dear friends, > > I purchased a Soldiers pocket prayer book from a > flea-market near to where I live. > > > > The Prayer book was published by the Society for promoting knowledge and > dated 1853. > > > > On the inside front cover page is the following inscription: > > > > Gunr & Driver Robt. BOOR > > No. 5 Company > > 12 Battalion Royal Artillery > > British Camp Crimea > > 1855 to 29 June 1856 > > India, from 31 December 1857 > > To 23 May 1863. > > China, from June 63 to 1865 > > India from 1865 to October 1866 > > then home. > > > > His address is given as Cowbit, Near, Spalding Lincolnshire. > > I looked on the IGI and found a Robert BOOR who was christened on 13th Sept. > 1818 at Spalding, Lincoln. He was the nearest match. If this was him, he > would have been 37 years of age in 1855 and 48 years of age when he returned > home from India in 1866. > > > > Does anyone know anyone researching the BOOR family from Lincolnshire? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > Boer War List Page > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War List Page http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Wendy, The four stripes and Crown sound very much like the 19th century ranking of a Regimental Sergeant Major of the British Army with the crossed rifles perhaps indicating a marksman or sniper proficiency award. If you have a scan of the photograph I'd be more than happy to help you out with identification. Gary Canterbury, Kent > -----Original Message----- > From: Wendy Atkin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 26 September 2003 6:01 pm > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BOER-WAR] Rank - four stripes? > > > Dear List, > > I have a photograph of a soldier of the 2nd VB, Lincolnshire > Regiment who went out to South Africa. He has four chevrons > on his right sleeve and over this is a pair of crossed rifles > and a what looks like a crown. Could anyone please tell me > what rank this man would hold? > > Wendy > [email protected]

Dear Wendy, Although it is difficult to be certain without seeing the 'photo, the badges you describe are that of a Sergeant Instructor of Musketry. If the badges are worn above the elbow and the stripes point downward then I am certain that I am correct. JOHN CRONIN (CHRISTCHURCH DORSET UK) If you believe in freedom thank a VETERAN not a politician.

Dear List, I have a photograph of a soldier of the 2nd VB, Lincolnshire Regiment who went out to South Africa. He has four chevrons on his right sleeve and over this is a pair of crossed rifles and a what looks like a crown. Could anyone please tell me what rank this man would hold? Wendy [email protected]

Dear friends, I purchased a Soldiers pocket prayer book from a flea-market near to where I live. The Prayer book was published by the Society for promoting knowledge and dated 1853. On the inside front cover page is the following inscription: Gunr & Driver Robt. BOOR No. 5 Company 12 Battalion Royal Artillery British Camp Crimea 1855 to 29 June 1856 India, from 31 December 1857 To 23 May 1863. China, from June 63 to 1865 India from 1865 to October 1866 then home. His address is given as Cowbit, Near, Spalding Lincolnshire. I looked on the IGI and found a Robert BOOR who was christened on 13th Sept. 1818 at Spalding, Lincoln. He was the nearest match. If this was him, he would have been 37 years of age in 1855 and 48 years of age when he returned home from India in 1866. Does anyone know anyone researching the BOOR family from Lincolnshire? Best wishes, Martin

I have the following extract which appears to imply that Trooper Morris was to receive the VC, however a check through on-line sources and correspondence with relatives alive now suggests that he never received it: >From the Illustrated London News Dec 1899 - Apr 1900 I have the following extract: "The Colonies should share the good things of the Empire has become more than ever in accordance with the fitness of things. It is only right, therefore, that the war in South Africa, which has united as well as divided, should be the means of taking that most coveted decoration, the Victoria Cross, to Australasia. Trooper Tom Morris, of the New South Wales Lancers, is the happy man who, " for valour," is the recipient of the Cross that will mark him out as a hero on his return to the Antipodes. Indeed, on his return through London Trooper Tom Morris, V.C., is pretty sure of a welcome from the citizens that will exceed in enthusiasm, if that is possible, the cheers which formed the Colonial's send- off when they were outward bound." There is a photo of Trooper Morris at http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/ILN_1899-1900/Trooper_Morris_VC.html with links to letters of the period, the second of which also mentions the VC. Could it be that he was merely recommended for the VC, but that at the end of the day it was decided that his act of bravery didn't warrant the award - and if not could it be that he received another award - and if so what ? Paul 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Good morning everyone, Further research from the Corporation of London Records Office of my great uncle with the City of London Imperial Volunteers (service number 1159) and who was granted the City of London Freedom (no. 522) as were all members of the City Imperial Volunteers, shows that he was a member of the 2nd. Middlesex Volunteer Artillery. Can anyone tell me whether this was a branch of the CoLIV, or a separate volunteer unit, and if the latter, was the 2nd. Middlesex involved in the Boar War? The Corporation of London Records Office sent me the above info, and has also offered copies of photos from their records. Very helpful people who only charge for the photocopies but ask for voluntary donations: how refreshing. They are at: [email protected] Regards to all, Chris

Hello List: Re Concentration of Burials after the South African War: Bodies in isolated graves were reburied in 7 cemeteries by late 1905 according to the Auckland Star of 11th Oct 1905 page 5 (see clipping and letter of 23 Oct 1905 on Archives (Wellington) file AD 34/8000). The 7 cemeteries where about 5000 bodies from 2480 graves were reinterred were: Pretoria, Middleburg, Barberton, Potchefstroom, Johannesburg, Standerton and Lydenburg. There was a similar "concentration" of graves after WWI and WWII by the Commonwealth Wargraves Commission and probably by other countries as well. Some American wardead were returned to America after WWII. Yours, John Wilson (Wellington, New Zealand) > Went to the Maitland cemetery for the first time last week. > > By South African Standards, it's an old cemetery and is large. Generally its > pretty depressing as the graves are not well tended, a lot of the older > graves have their headstones missing or vandalised. A lot of new graves are > being dug between older graves and there is a general air of neglect. > > An exception to this, fortunately, is the military section of the cemetery > which is extremely well tended (so probably gets some additional funding > from somewhere) and contains the remains of soldiers (including enemy) from > the boer, 1st world and the 2nd world wars. From what I can tell by roaming > around, it would seem that many 2nd Anglo boer war graves were relocated > here from various churches and hospitals in the area as well as from a > cemetery at a fort in Woodstock (a suburb of Cape Town). I was unaware that > such a place existed and Woodstock is now a mixture of semi industrial > business, commercial business, railway yards and working class residences. > > In addition, gravestones and remains were relocated here from many areas in > the Western Cape by the War graves society of South Africa. > > I found a fairly big monument containing the names of persons remains > relocated to the site The areas that these remains came from were: > > Ceres > Hopefield > Halfmans Hof > Laaiplek > Paarl > Piketberg > Porterville > Roodebaai > Rondebosch > Stellenbosch > Tulbagh > Wellington > Wetton Road > Worcester > > Most of the above are Towns in the Western Cape or suburbs of Cape Town, but > others (Roodebaai and Halfmans Hof) I have not heard of. > > The names are grouped by fighting unit including many British, many > Australian, some Canadian and 1 New Zealand unit. > > The New Zealand unit mentioned was the New Zealand Mounted Rifles and the > following soldiers were listed as being buried here: > > Sgt H Rule > Tpr J Jenks (I think this is the other man you enquired about) > Tpr L Matthews > Tpr JS Young > Pvte CW Franks (I think this is your man, my handwriting is terrible > and it could have been a G that I was trying to write down and not a C as > I've listed here) > Pvte J Patterson > > Perhaps if you have ranks and army numbers, I could do some more tracking? > > There are also numerous headstones of soldiers, moved from other locations. > The most easily identifiable are the Canadian ones as they are uniform in > design and have large Maple leaves (I think) carved into the top section of > the headstones. An area has headstones facing north with an inscription that > the officers buried here had wished to be buried facing England. In > relocating these remains, their wishes were carried out again. > > Let me know if you need any more help or a photo of the Monument. > > Mark van Zyl > > > Hello and thankyou for your offer, i have found one so far for Cape Town but > i am only at the letter H at putting them on the database so far. I will > have to get out an atlas to find where some of these places are as their are > quite a few in South Africa scattered all around. I asked our Ministry of > Culture and Heritage here in N.Z. and they wouldn't tell where they were as > they reckon they only just found out that they were suppose to be looking > after them, i could imagine what state some of these would be in after 100 > yrs of neglect. But as it turns out i am finding them quite easily, some of > them anyway. This one is in the Cape Town Cem and the only grave reference > as is for most of them over their is marked by iron cross, so if their is > lots of iron cross's their, they could all be NZers. Once again thanks a > million for your help. > > FRANKS George William 27.09.1900 Marked by Iron Cross > > Regards Leigh > Hokitika, > Best Place in N.Z. > [email protected] > >

try this http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home/html Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Woods" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2003 07:43 PM Subject: [BOER-WAR] City of London Imperial Volunteers > Some kind sole recently emailed to say that they had a book covering the City of London Imperial Volunteers operations in the Boar War, with many illustrations including personnel. > > Somehow I have managed to delete the email and wondered whether they would have the patients to contact me again as I would like to see if I could find a copy in the library. > > Chris > Not very good with computers, > Norfolk > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Leigh Went to the Maitland cemetery for the first time last week. By South African Standards, it's an old cemetery and is large. Generally its pretty depressing as the graves are not well tended, a lot of the older graves have their headstones missing or vandalised. A lot of new graves are being dug between older graves and there is a general air of neglect. An exception to this, fortunately, is the military section of the cemetery which is extremely well tended (so probably gets some additional funding from somewhere) and contains the remains of soldiers (including enemy) from the boer, 1st world and the 2nd world wars. From what I can tell by roaming around, it would seem that many 2nd Anglo boer war graves were relocated here from various churches and hospitals in the area as well as from a cemetery at a fort in Woodstock (a suburb of Cape Town). I was unaware that such a place existed and Woodstock is now a mixture of semi industrial business, commercial business, railway yards and working class residences. In addition, gravestones and remains were relocated here from many areas in the Western Cape by the War graves society of South Africa. I found a fairly big monument containing the names of persons remains relocated to the site The areas that these remains came from were: Ceres Hopefield Halfmans Hof Laaiplek Paarl Piketberg Porterville Roodebaai Rondebosch Stellenbosch Tulbagh Wellington Wetton Road Worcester Most of the above are Towns in the Western Cape or suburbs of Cape Town, but others (Roodebaai and Halfmans Hof) I have not heard of. The names are grouped by fighting unit including many British, many Australian, some Canadian and 1 New Zealand unit. The New Zealand unit mentioned was the New Zealand Mounted Rifles and the following soldiers were listed as being buried here: Sgt H Rule Tpr J Jenks (I think this is the other man you enquired about) Tpr L Matthews Tpr JS Young Pvte CW Franks (I think this is your man, my handwriting is terrible and it could have been a G that I was trying to write down and not a C as I've listed here) Pvte J Patterson Perhaps if you have ranks and army numbers, I could do some more tracking? There are also numerous headstones of soldiers, moved from other locations. The most easily identifiable are the Canadian ones as they are uniform in design and have large Maple leaves (I think) carved into the top section of the headstones. An area has headstones facing north with an inscription that the officers buried here had wished to be buried facing England. In relocating these remains, their wishes were carried out again. Let me know if you need any more help or a photo of the Monument. Mark van Zyl Confidentiality Notice This communication, its content and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is unauthorised. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. -----Original Message----- From: Leigh Willoughby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 August 2003 10:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [BOER-WAR] Grave locations Required Hello and thankyou for your offer, i have found one so far for Cape Town but i am only at the letter H at putting them on the database so far. I will have to get out an atlas to find where some of these places are as their are quite a few in South Africa scattered all around. I asked our Ministry of Culture and Heritage here in N.Z. and they wouldn't tell where they were as they reckon they only just found out that they were suppose to be looking after them, i could imagine what state some of these would be in after 100 yrs of neglect. But as it turns out i am finding them quite easily, some of them anyway. This one is in the Cape Town Cem and the only grave reference as is for most of them over their is marked by iron cross, so if their is lots of iron cross's their, they could all be NZers. Once again thanks a million for your help. FRANKS George William 27.09.1900 Marked by Iron Cross Regards Leigh Hokitika, Best Place in N.Z. [email protected]

Good morning everyone, I am trying to find out more about a great uncle who served with the City of London Imperial Volunteers He was Private 1159 His medals include: Queen's South Africa medal 1899-1902 with 6 bars King's South Africa medal 1901-1902 with 2 bars The photo on which the above medals were found and identified by the National Army Museum medals site (most helpful people) was not clear enough to be able to read the bars. The third bar from the top on the Queen's medal looks grey but this might have been the angle of the light in the portrait. Can anyone tell me anything about this relative regarding his service with the CoLIV, and perhaps even which bars these may have been? Any info would be very much appreciated, yours sincerely, Chris Norfolk UK

Some kind sole recently emailed to say that they had a book covering the City of London Imperial Volunteers operations in the Boar War, with many illustrations including personnel. Somehow I have managed to delete the email and wondered whether they would have the patients to contact me again as I would like to see if I could find a copy in the library. Chris Not very good with computers, Norfolk

William Mead. Was he in a Devon Volunteer Unit? Family lore says that William Mead was a senior NCO in the Boer War. I have not found him in the 1881 or 1901 censuses so I do not know where he was born but it was possibly London. All I know of him from the public record comes from his marriage in 1891 at Dunkeswell to Elizabeth Hannah Pulman. Then he was listed as age 33 a widowed Bricklayer with a father George also a Bricklayer. It seems likely that this was the George Mead, bricklayer living at Honiton (East Devon) age 50 in 1881 and 62 in 1891, born Hackney, London, with his wife Mary Ann born Whetstone, London. William and Elizabeth had 5 children born in Honiton/Dunkeswell including one born in about February 1901. They emigrated to South Africa in about 1903 and had three more children. For William to have combined being a bricklayer in England, fathering a child in early 1901 and being an NCO in the Boer War of 1899-1902 he would most probably have been in a Militia or other Volunteer Unit that formed part of the Imperial Yeomanry and joined the later reinforcements. Is there anywhere I can seek relevant information on Devon Volunteer Units and William Mead in particular? Tom Barry

I think 1902 was too late for the A/B war. But have you tried http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/home.html He has Imperial Yeomanry, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Low" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 12 September 2003 04:09 AM Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Thanks for the help > Wendy etal; > > I guess I was not too clear in my first note for information, so I'll > try again. > > I am looking for the records for John Low whose Boer War records are > as follows. > > Low, John 42649, Trooper* 37th Bn. I.Y. > > He enlisted in Montrose, Scotland in 1902 with tthe Fife and Forfar > contingent, Imperial Yeomanry > > Could someone tell me an address of where in London could I find the > war records for this fellow? > > >Brian > > > >have just read the end of your note ie the bit about war records > >these are at Kew not the central London PRO - don't know the web > >site but try www.ukoline.gov.uk it will have a link to their > >site/address > > > > -- > @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@*@@@@ > @ Brian & Joan Low > @ B.C., Canada > @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@* > "INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY" > > > ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== > List Admin Message > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 11/09/03 17:10:10 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Wendy etal; > > I guess I was not too clear in my first note for information, so I'll > try again. > > I am looking for the records for John Low whose Boer War records are > as follows. > > Low, John 42649, Trooper* 37th Bn. I.Y. > > He enlisted in Montrose, Scotland in 1902 with tthe Fife and Forfar > contingent, Imperial Yeomanry > > Could someone tell me an address of where in London could I find the > war records for this fellow? > > >Brian > Brian, The WO 128 series at the National Archives (PRO as was) are the records of IY soldiers in the Boer War. They are numerically ordered and your man is in WO 128/159. If you need these copied (a tenner for copying/postage and petrol should cover it!) let me know! Kevin

Brian have just read the end of your note ie the bit about war records these are at Kew not the central London PRO - don't know the web site but try www.ukoline.gov.uk it will have a link to their site/address Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Low To: [email protected] Sent: 11 September 2003 01:51 Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Thanks for the help Re the location of the PRO in London, UK Could someone give me an address of the PRO? My cousin is going to be in London and has volunteered his "spare" time to try and find a fellow, John Low, for me. I would like to help him as much as possible to make his time fully focused. Thanks in advance. Brian >Yesterday (Sat) I visited the PRO on a bus trip with my local family history >society. >After being shown around and where to find things I set off on my quest. >I first went through WO100/139 microfilm checking the different batteries of >the Royal Horse Artillery for a mention of Samuel Treece and found 3516 DRIVER >TREECE S L in U battery as mentioned before.He got the Queens South Africa >Medal along with 4 clasps those were for PAARDEBERG DREIFONTEIN RELIEF OF >KIMBERLEY and TRANSVAAL having printed a copy of the page off I went >in search of my >Holy Grail his service records.I didnt really know where to start as I had no >idea when he left the army.I asked in a section where people give out advice >and things didnt look good as the person said not many service papers survive >from the boer war.(which wasnt what the pro said in an email to me) It was >also pointed out he could have continued into the 14-18 war although I knew he >was back locally in 1912 but talk was he did something in the 14-18 >war.Anyway I >picked up a few leaflets and had a read and found that WO 97 for the years >1900-1913 were arranged alphabetically and I was pretty sure he >would be in that >section if any.These documents were originals so I had to brave the computer >ordering system to order what I wanted.in my case WO 97 6101 (Iam alittle >confused as I just noted the ticket they placed next to the records >when copying >for me said WO 95 6101) Then it was a case of waiting for the file to arrive >which was about 30 minutes.I then sat and very carefully opened the box and >worked through the army service papers gradually reaching the >section where if my >great grandfathers papers were anywhere they should be there. >I turned one over and found one Ernest Treece from Nottingham who joined up >in Derby and went into the RHA.Derby is my home city.This person was a >potential relative.And then I turned the next document and it was >hard not to leap up >and shout EUREKA I had found MY SAMUEL LLEWELLYN TREECE. NO 3516 and from his >details I knew it was my great grandfather.It was such a wonderful >feeling.Unlike some army papers which contained alot of papers his >was just the 4 sides >of standard stuff but interesting reading all the same and such a find as it >gives pointers to his marriage etc.It also indicates he got the >Kings medal and >clasps 01 and 02 what ever those clasps were. >What other documents could I view with other details of my Great Grandfather? >is it possible to view things such as pay etc. >I noted there is another section of army service papers all that were >misfiled is there any chance more of his records could be hiding in >this section or >have I got all I can get? >Thanks again. >Simon >Derby >UK >==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== >Getting Started on Boer War Research? >http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWInfo.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@*@@@@ @ Brian & Joan Low @ Montney B.C., Canada @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@* "INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY" ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War Links http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarLinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Brian www.familyrecords.gov.uk - go to contact page and select Family Records Centre from left hand list - gives you address, opening times etc Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Low To: [email protected] Sent: 11 September 2003 01:51 Subject: Re: [BOER-WAR] Thanks for the help Re the location of the PRO in London, UK Could someone give me an address of the PRO? My cousin is going to be in London and has volunteered his "spare" time to try and find a fellow, John Low, for me. I would like to help him as much as possible to make his time fully focused. Thanks in advance. Brian >Yesterday (Sat) I visited the PRO on a bus trip with my local family history >society. >After being shown around and where to find things I set off on my quest. >I first went through WO100/139 microfilm checking the different batteries of >the Royal Horse Artillery for a mention of Samuel Treece and found 3516 DRIVER >TREECE S L in U battery as mentioned before.He got the Queens South Africa >Medal along with 4 clasps those were for PAARDEBERG DREIFONTEIN RELIEF OF >KIMBERLEY and TRANSVAAL having printed a copy of the page off I went >in search of my >Holy Grail his service records.I didnt really know where to start as I had no >idea when he left the army.I asked in a section where people give out advice >and things didnt look good as the person said not many service papers survive >from the boer war.(which wasnt what the pro said in an email to me) It was >also pointed out he could have continued into the 14-18 war although I knew he >was back locally in 1912 but talk was he did something in the 14-18 >war.Anyway I >picked up a few leaflets and had a read and found that WO 97 for the years >1900-1913 were arranged alphabetically and I was pretty sure he >would be in that >section if any.These documents were originals so I had to brave the computer >ordering system to order what I wanted.in my case WO 97 6101 (Iam alittle >confused as I just noted the ticket they placed next to the records >when copying >for me said WO 95 6101) Then it was a case of waiting for the file to arrive >which was about 30 minutes.I then sat and very carefully opened the box and >worked through the army service papers gradually reaching the >section where if my >great grandfathers papers were anywhere they should be there. >I turned one over and found one Ernest Treece from Nottingham who joined up >in Derby and went into the RHA.Derby is my home city.This person was a >potential relative.And then I turned the next document and it was >hard not to leap up >and shout EUREKA I had found MY SAMUEL LLEWELLYN TREECE. NO 3516 and from his >details I knew it was my great grandfather.It was such a wonderful >feeling.Unlike some army papers which contained alot of papers his >was just the 4 sides >of standard stuff but interesting reading all the same and such a find as it >gives pointers to his marriage etc.It also indicates he got the >Kings medal and >clasps 01 and 02 what ever those clasps were. >What other documents could I view with other details of my Great Grandfather? >is it possible to view things such as pay etc. >I noted there is another section of army service papers all that were >misfiled is there any chance more of his records could be hiding in >this section or >have I got all I can get? >Thanks again. >Simon >Derby >UK >==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== >Getting Started on Boer War Research? >http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWInfo.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@*@@@@ @ Brian & Joan Low @ Montney B.C., Canada @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@* "INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY" ==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== Boer War Links http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWarLinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Wendy etal; I guess I was not too clear in my first note for information, so I'll try again. I am looking for the records for John Low whose Boer War records are as follows. Low, John 42649, Trooper* 37th Bn. I.Y. He enlisted in Montrose, Scotland in 1902 with tthe Fife and Forfar contingent, Imperial Yeomanry Could someone tell me an address of where in London could I find the war records for this fellow? >Brian > >have just read the end of your note ie the bit about war records >these are at Kew not the central London PRO - don't know the web >site but try www.ukoline.gov.uk it will have a link to their >site/address > -- @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@*@@@@ @ Brian & Joan Low @ B.C., Canada @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@* "INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY"

Re the location of the PRO in London, UK Could someone give me an address of the PRO? My cousin is going to be in London and has volunteered his "spare" time to try and find a fellow, John Low, for me. I would like to help him as much as possible to make his time fully focused. Thanks in advance. Brian >Yesterday (Sat) I visited the PRO on a bus trip with my local family history >society. >After being shown around and where to find things I set off on my quest. >I first went through WO100/139 microfilm checking the different batteries of >the Royal Horse Artillery for a mention of Samuel Treece and found 3516 DRIVER >TREECE S L in U battery as mentioned before.He got the Queens South Africa >Medal along with 4 clasps those were for PAARDEBERG DREIFONTEIN RELIEF OF >KIMBERLEY and TRANSVAAL having printed a copy of the page off I went >in search of my >Holy Grail his service records.I didnt really know where to start as I had no >idea when he left the army.I asked in a section where people give out advice >and things didnt look good as the person said not many service papers survive >from the boer war.(which wasnt what the pro said in an email to me) It was >also pointed out he could have continued into the 14-18 war although I knew he >was back locally in 1912 but talk was he did something in the 14-18 >war.Anyway I >picked up a few leaflets and had a read and found that WO 97 for the years >1900-1913 were arranged alphabetically and I was pretty sure he >would be in that >section if any.These documents were originals so I had to brave the computer >ordering system to order what I wanted.in my case WO 97 6101 (Iam alittle >confused as I just noted the ticket they placed next to the records >when copying >for me said WO 95 6101) Then it was a case of waiting for the file to arrive >which was about 30 minutes.I then sat and very carefully opened the box and >worked through the army service papers gradually reaching the >section where if my >great grandfathers papers were anywhere they should be there. >I turned one over and found one Ernest Treece from Nottingham who joined up >in Derby and went into the RHA.Derby is my home city.This person was a >potential relative.And then I turned the next document and it was >hard not to leap up >and shout EUREKA I had found MY SAMUEL LLEWELLYN TREECE. NO 3516 and from his >details I knew it was my great grandfather.It was such a wonderful >feeling.Unlike some army papers which contained alot of papers his >was just the 4 sides >of standard stuff but interesting reading all the same and such a find as it >gives pointers to his marriage etc.It also indicates he got the >Kings medal and >clasps 01 and 02 what ever those clasps were. >What other documents could I view with other details of my Great Grandfather? >is it possible to view things such as pay etc. >I noted there is another section of army service papers all that were >misfiled is there any chance more of his records could be hiding in >this section or >have I got all I can get? >Thanks again. >Simon >Derby >UK >==== BOER-WAR Mailing List ==== >Getting Started on Boer War Research? >http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWInfo.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@*@@@@ @ Brian & Joan Low @ Montney B.C., Canada @*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@@@@*@@* "INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY"