Hi Lynn To your query, "YES", I am aware of your position on your role as an admin, and I beg to differ. I take great pains to work on the surname boxes, and the category boxes, but that's my choice. I hate to see posts by one user over-looked in searches by another just because surnames didn't get into the search engine. I've come to realize that a lot of newbie posters don't include surnames because they haven't figured out the purpose yet, just as others add in ALL of their surnames. I don't see the value in penalizing newbies just because they didn't get it right the first time. Anyway, I'm not here to condemn or argue; like you, I'm all for the preventative measures such as those suggested yesterday and today. All the best, Jill ======== Hi Jill You wrote: Are you saying that when requested to do so by a poster, an admin won't add the surnames? Or are you saying that some admins don't do that as part of their regular activities? If the latter, please remember that it's *not* our job, so there's no reason to condemn us. :-) I know some admins think we should go through all the posts on our boards and extract from each post the surnames mentioned to be added to the surname boxes, but IMHO, I do enough as it is. The surnames missing from the surname box will still be found if a keyword search is done. I'd rather spend my time doing what I agreed to do when I volunteered to admin a board. Adding names to a surname box on a post that I don't have to edit for any other reason won't be something I'll be doing. The poster has to take on that responsibility him/herself. I do hope that the "new and improved" boards provide clear instructions to the posters, including an explanation of the importance of completing the surnames field. Best wishes, Lynne