That is your admin address as admin of the *list*. That's why Joan said this question really belongs on one the list-admin lists, not here. And anyway, as Mary said, the only thing you can do is delete it. Nan On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Ian Singer <iansinger@sympatico.ca> wrote: > JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, Ian- > > > > I'm not sure how your question pertains to message boards? This would > > appear to be a list question for LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com or one of the > other > > list admin lists. > > > > I am admin of Rosenberg Message Board, among others. I keep on getting > spam sent to my admin address. I think Rootsweb should be able to stop > it, so who do I inform, and how do I get it stopped? > > Ian Singer > > -- > > > ========================================================================= > See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com > hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 > All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com > Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com > I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? > ========================================================================= > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Ian- I'm not sure how your question pertains to message boards? This would appear to be a list question for LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com or one of the other list admin lists. Joan In a message dated 6/12/2009 9:31:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, iansinger@sympatico.ca writes: How do I stop this spam? Ian Singer

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What's the best way to stop spam thats coming to my admin address eg from Camic Collette <singer-admin@rootsweb.com> subject Join our Club. I am getting multiple ones per day from different senders to different admin addresses from mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

We have another board spammer FHarrison1957 --and it is a commercial post. I already reported it and deleted it from the HARRISON board. He is still posting as of now. FHarrison1957 List Messages By: Board | Date Viewing 1 - 25 of 33 Next » Surnames > Hart Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Harwell Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Harwood Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Haskell Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hatch Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hatfield Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hathaway Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Haven Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hawes Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hawkins Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hayden Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hayes Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hayward Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hazard Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hazen Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Head Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Henderson Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hendrick Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Henry Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Herndon Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Herrick Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Herring Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hershey Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hertzler Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surnames > Hess Another great Idea -- 6/6/2009 -- -- Take care, ~Kathie Harrison Ancestral Whispers http://whispers.ancestralwhispers.com/

Lauren- Yeah...I understand what he says about the gateway being moderated--my comment applied to reviewing all new subs to lists and how he'd know the same board "spammers" were trying to sub to the list. Moderating new subs would be a rare and usually temporary situations for most lists -- but my question is how doing this would find the email addresses of board spammer--I mean how would you identify them as such if you don't know their email addresses only their usernames? Joan In a message dated 5/22/2009 12:26:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, listsmonster@gmail.com writes: Joan: Some of us have historic problem children for some of our lists.... and *are* to approve membership for those lists. Keeps from subjecting people to flame wars, etc. However, agreed -- not all lists are supposed to be subscription by approval only. I am unsure what Don meant, but perhaps it is that he has the gateway on moderate so all posts from the gateway must be manually reviewed and released. NO list is to be on permanent moderate -- that is my understanding --- even for those with problem children. Cheers, Lauren

Joan: Some of us have historic problem children for some of our lists.... and *are* to approve membership for those lists. Keeps from subjecting people to flame wars, etc. However, agreed -- not all lists are supposed to be subscription by approval only. I am unsure what Don meant, but perhaps it is that he has the gateway on moderate so all posts from the gateway must be manually reviewed and released. NO list is to be on permanent moderate -- that is my understanding --- even for those with problem children. Cheers, Lauren

Don- You have me baffled. How would placing the gateway on moderated status stop the post from reaching the BOARD? The post is already ON the board before the gateway message is generated. Granted, it won't hit the LIST archives--but it IS on the board unless or until the admin deletes it. Also, you can easily check the posting record of someone looking at their username for the boards but that won't tell you their email address unless they have made that information publicly accessible which most users haven't. Many people have multiple email accounts anyway and may not use the same one on their board account as they use for list subscriptions. So, how checking a board user's posting record helps you to know who is subbing to your lists I have no clue. Also--are you saying that you have your lists set to APPROVE every new subscriber? I'm not sure but I think RootsWeb frowns on this activity for the most part (most lists are supposed to be open to anyone to subscribe to them unless they have done something on the list to show cause to unsub them). Joan In a message dated 5/21/2009 5:21:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ocollaugh@comcast.net writes: A few of my lists kept getting spammed, so I put them temporarily on moderate. That also stopped their spam from reaching the board. That also gave me an opportunity to check the posting records of those who wanted to subscribe before I accepted them. Things are better and I am debating with myself (GRIN) on whether to unmoderate a couple of the formerly problem lists. Improvements have been shown and I hope that trend continues. don

A few of my lists kept getting spammed, so I put them temporarily on moderate. That also stopped their spam from reaching the board. That also gave me an opportunity to check the posting records of those who wanted to subscribe before I accepted them. Things are better and I am debating with myself (GRIN) on whether to unmoderate a couple of the formerly problem lists. Improvements have been shown and I hope that trend continues. don ----- Original Message ----- From: JYoung6180@aol.com To: decann@infionline.net, listowners@rootsweb.com, boards-admins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [BAd] [LO] Spam through the gateway Staff used to routinely ask for a volunteer to mark spam from the gateway for removal -- I don't know whether that is still the case or not. It wouldn't hurt to let the HelpDesk know which boards the spam post is on so they can be removed from the list archives. Joan In a message dated 5/21/2009 11:26:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, decann@infionline.net writes: A spammer hit a bunch of Indiana boards this morning with a chain letter, but after I reported it to the "Report Abuse" link, something occurred to me. When we do that and David (or whoever) removes the dozens of board posts, does he as a matter of practice also remove all of the posts from the archives that made it through the gateway to the lists? As long as I've been an admin that never occurred to me before, but should we also individually request removal from the list archives of what can be dozens or even hundreds (in some cases) of spam posts? That is NOT a task I relish taking the time for, not when the number of lists can be so high in some cases, but do we need to do it? My apologies for cross-posting this to BAd and LO both, but this is one of those questions that leaves me wondering which one it belongs on, if not both. :-( David E. Cann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Staff used to routinely ask for a volunteer to mark spam from the gateway for removal -- I don't know whether that is still the case or not. It wouldn't hurt to let the HelpDesk know which boards the spam post is on so they can be removed from the list archives. Joan In a message dated 5/21/2009 11:26:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, decann@infionline.net writes: A spammer hit a bunch of Indiana boards this morning with a chain letter, but after I reported it to the "Report Abuse" link, something occurred to me. When we do that and David (or whoever) removes the dozens of board posts, does he as a matter of practice also remove all of the posts from the archives that made it through the gateway to the lists? As long as I've been an admin that never occurred to me before, but should we also individually request removal from the list archives of what can be dozens or even hundreds (in some cases) of spam posts? That is NOT a task I relish taking the time for, not when the number of lists can be so high in some cases, but do we need to do it? My apologies for cross-posting this to BAd and LO both, but this is one of those questions that leaves me wondering which one it belongs on, if not both. :-( David E. Cann

A spammer hit a bunch of Indiana boards this morning with a chain letter, but after I reported it to the "Report Abuse" link, something occurred to me. When we do that and David (or whoever) removes the dozens of board posts, does he as a matter of practice also remove all of the posts from the archives that made it through the gateway to the lists? As long as I've been an admin that never occurred to me before, but should we also individually request removal from the list archives of what can be dozens or even hundreds (in some cases) of spam posts? That is NOT a task I relish taking the time for, not when the number of lists can be so high in some cases, but do we need to do it? My apologies for cross-posting this to BAd and LO both, but this is one of those questions that leaves me wondering which one it belongs on, if not both. :-( David E. Cann decann@infionline.net

Lauren- You may have helped me resolve this issue or at least get the right question <g>. The posts ARE on the SHARP board and also on the USA board and I distinctly remember moving a post from USA to SHARP--BUT these three posts are not identical--only the two on the SHARP board are identical: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sharp/3767/mb.ashx http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sharp/3766/mb.ashx http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.general/19992.1.1/mb.ashx So this wouldn't be a good example of what I thought I was seeing. The subject lines and posting times are not identical. I'm starting to think that what I might be observing is posts being moved from one board to another by various admins and in the process lots of dupes are shaking out and some posts being moved to boards where they don't belong. So maybe we just need to keep our eyes out for dupes and newly moved misplaced posts. However...that said...I review the USA board at least 4 or 5 times a day and I'm finding not one--but a hundred or more posts that were posted over the past few months on that board (or at least dated over the past few months) that are UNmarked with objections but are misplaced. I'm seriously wondering WHERE they came from--I would have marked them if they wouldn't move. I mean many are OBVIOUSLY misplaced -- like software questions, Ancestry questions--nothing to do with the USA. Even if in a weak moment I missed marking one--I wouldn't have missed marking a hundred old posts over the past few months. So I guess rather than looking for whether posts that I already moved left ghosts on the USA board my real question is where did all these misplaced UNmarked posts COME from? Joan In a message dated 5/20/2009 9:04:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, listsmonster@gmail.com writes: When viewing the link you inserted and then clicking on the author's "view posts"... I found it only to be listed as located on the Message Boards > Localities > North America > United States > General board. I have not peeked at the Sharp board. Perhaps it is something again to do with re-indexing? I am sure they will get things figured out.... eventually! lol Cheers, Lauren

Nan- That's comforting, at least. :) Joan In a message dated 5/20/2009 8:20:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nstarjak@gmail.com writes: Joan, All I can say is that if you're right about what's happening, it's not universal. I just checked a few that I had moved, and they ARE on the board to which I moved them; and they are NOT on the board *from* which I moved them. Which is of exactly zero help to you, I'm afraid. :-( Nan

Joan, All I can say is that if you're right about what's happening, it's not universal. I just checked a few that I had moved, and they ARE on the board to which I moved them; and they are NOT on the board *from* which I moved them. Which is of exactly zero help to you, I'm afraid. :-( Nan On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:21 PM, <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > This could be ME and not a problem with the Move Message function but I > don't THINK so. I'll admit trying to move/fix 350 posts since yesterday may > have me seeing cross-eyed or not thinking clearly BUT... > > Here's what I experienced on the USA General board: > > I went through ALL of the marked objections and moved the posts to their > proper boards and they appeared to move. I then deleted the objections (I > know, I know -- it would have been preferable to reject the objection > FIRST--but as I explained before I just got into problems if I tried doing > it > that way). If the objections moved to another board I admin (which some > of > them did) then I rejected the objection again which was now showing (as it > should have) on the board the post was moved to. Now that sounds fine and > would seem to mean everything is working as it should...BUT... > > This afternoon, in reviewing my boards I saw what I thought were some old > familiar posts on the USA board that I'd already marked and moved last > night and earlier today and I KNOW I didn't leave dupes on the board. > Hmmmmm...could Move Message be moving the posts to a new board but also > LEAVING a > copy on the original board? Pehaps someone with a smaller board and fewer > objections could tell me if they have experienced this phenomenon also? > > So far, I feel like this is deja vu all over again and that I've SEEN these > posts before. At first, I just assumed these were the marked posts I > "lost" last night when I rejected the objections BEFORE I actually moved > the > posts --- BUT, when I got to some very familiar posts that I distinctly > remembered having MOVED successfully, I decided that couldn't be the case > and > stopped moving these unmarked misplaced posts until I can get an answer to > this question. > > In case, anyone needs a sample -- I had marked and moved THIS post from USA > General to the SHARP surname board last night: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.general/19992.1.1/mb.ashx > > It IS on the SHARP board too where I moved it (and I'd bet the objection is > still attached to it there but I can't see it because I don't admin that > board). However, it is now on the SHARP board twice and STILL on the USA > General board where I plan to delete it now that I know it's a dupe--but > not > until staff has a chance to figure out what the problem is. > > Joan <---seeing doubles and suffering from deja vu > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This could be ME and not a problem with the Move Message function but I don't THINK so. I'll admit trying to move/fix 350 posts since yesterday may have me seeing cross-eyed or not thinking clearly BUT... Here's what I experienced on the USA General board: I went through ALL of the marked objections and moved the posts to their proper boards and they appeared to move. I then deleted the objections (I know, I know -- it would have been preferable to reject the objection FIRST--but as I explained before I just got into problems if I tried doing it that way). If the objections moved to another board I admin (which some of them did) then I rejected the objection again which was now showing (as it should have) on the board the post was moved to. Now that sounds fine and would seem to mean everything is working as it should...BUT... This afternoon, in reviewing my boards I saw what I thought were some old familiar posts on the USA board that I'd already marked and moved last night and earlier today and I KNOW I didn't leave dupes on the board. Hmmmmm...could Move Message be moving the posts to a new board but also LEAVING a copy on the original board? Pehaps someone with a smaller board and fewer objections could tell me if they have experienced this phenomenon also? So far, I feel like this is deja vu all over again and that I've SEEN these posts before. At first, I just assumed these were the marked posts I "lost" last night when I rejected the objections BEFORE I actually moved the posts --- BUT, when I got to some very familiar posts that I distinctly remembered having MOVED successfully, I decided that couldn't be the case and stopped moving these unmarked misplaced posts until I can get an answer to this question. In case, anyone needs a sample -- I had marked and moved THIS post from USA General to the SHARP surname board last night: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.general/19992.1.1/mb.ashx It IS on the SHARP board too where I moved it (and I'd bet the objection is still attached to it there but I can't see it because I don't admin that board). However, it is now on the SHARP board twice and STILL on the USA General board where I plan to delete it now that I know it's a dupe--but not until staff has a chance to figure out what the problem is. Joan <---seeing doubles and suffering from deja vu

When viewing the link you inserted and then clicking on the author's "view posts"... I found it only to be listed as located on the Message Boards > Localities > North America > United States > General board. I have not peeked at the Sharp board. Perhaps it is something again to do with re-indexing? I am sure they will get things figured out.... eventually! lol Cheers, Lauren On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:21 PM, <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > This could be ME and not a problem with the Move Message function but I > don't THINK so. I'll admit trying to move/fix 350 posts since yesterday may > have  me seeing cross-eyed or not thinking clearly BUT... > > Here's what I experienced on the USA General board: > > I went through ALL of the marked objections and moved the posts to their > proper boards and they appeared to move.  I then deleted the  objections (I > know, I know -- it would have been preferable to reject the  objection > FIRST--but as I explained before I just got into problems if I tried  doing it > that way).  If the objections moved to another board I admin  (which some of > them did) then I rejected the objection again which was now  showing (as it > should have) on the board the post was moved to. Now that sounds  fine and > would seem to mean everything is working as it should...BUT... > > This afternoon, in reviewing my boards I saw what I thought were some old > familiar posts on the USA board that I'd already marked and moved last > night and earlier today and I KNOW I didn't leave dupes on the board. > Hmmmmm...could Move Message be moving the posts to a new board but also LEAVING  a > copy on the original board? Pehaps someone with a smaller board and fewer > objections could tell me if they have experienced this phenomenon also? > > So far, I feel like this is deja vu all over again and that I've SEEN these >  posts before. At first, I just assumed these were the marked posts I > "lost" last  night when I rejected the objections BEFORE I actually moved the > posts --- BUT,  when I got to some very familiar posts that I distinctly > remembered having  MOVED successfully, I decided that couldn't be the case and > stopped moving  these unmarked misplaced posts until I can get an answer to > this question. > > In case, anyone needs a sample -- I had marked and moved THIS post from USA >  General to the SHARP surname board last night: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.general/19992.1.1/mb.ashx > > It IS on the SHARP board too where I moved it (and I'd bet the objection is >  still attached to it there but I can't see it because I don't admin that > board).  However, it is now on the SHARP board twice and STILL on the USA > General board  where I plan to delete it now that I know it's a dupe--but not > until staff has a  chance to figure out what the problem is. > > Joan <---seeing doubles and suffering from deja  vu > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you David, I have now successfully cleared my list of formerly-locked-by-staff objections for posts that wouldn't move. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy

Lynne- That is exactly what I started doing last night and moved about 200 or so successfully but not all would move on the first try and when I went back to the alternate window and rejected the objection and then tried going back to the other window with the post/thread still to be moved--often they just "disappeared" and I couldn't find them again after that. In this unusual situation, it might be better if staff just waited a couple weeks and we admins just ignored those straggler locked objections from moved posts -- and staff later cleaned out the queue in one fell swoop. Staff is looking into the matter and considering the best way to deal with this. After all, even if EVERY single admin who reads this board removes (rejects) the objection first and moves their unmovable posts -- there are many more admins out there who won't even know to do this because they don't read this list. So, no matter what we do--there is going to be a cleanup operation for staff after we get these old posts moved. It isn't real obvious to admins who don't read this list that the objections don't get rejected/removed when they click to reject them AFTER a post is moved--it all LOOKS like it is working but it isn't because the objection has already moved along with the post. The only way we can delete them AFTER the move is if they are being moved to another board we also admin--and I've had a few of those too--I reject them and then the reloaded page showed them back again--but in the new location. Joan In a message dated 5/20/2009 2:25:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rwlist.admin@verizon.net writes: Good thought! If anyone is like me and worried that a post won't move, open the objection in one window and open the message in another. Do the transfer and then, if it's successful, go back to the first window and reject the objection. Only takes a second. Lynne

Brynne Holland wrote: >Just a reminder to fellow admins: >Please remember to REJECT the objection prior to moving. > Good thought! If anyone is like me and worried that a post won't move, open the objection in one window and open the message in another. Do the transfer and then, if it's successful, go back to the first window and reject the objection. Only takes a second. Lynne

Brynne- My unmovable posts were ALL newly posted posts/threads since the problem first occurred. The vast majority of my 350+ unmovables were on the USA General board which people tend to use as a catch-all board if they don't know where to post. I had posts to move to localities, topics (software questions, immigrations and ship lists, lost family and friends--you name it that board has it) and surname posts with no mention of the USA or ANY locality. Mind you, I'm not griping--under normal circumstances it is quite doable--but with several months of backed up unmovables marked for that board, well you can guess. <g> Joan In a message dated 5/20/2009 1:09:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, brynneholland@gmail.com writes: Joan, I understand. Luckily, I didn't rely on the abuse reports for the posts I needed to move; rather, I set up a separate bookmark file. Granted, I do not have anything near 150 posts that needed moved, thanks in large part to having previously cleaned all my boards from top to bottom. The most active board (500-600 posts per month) only had 8 that needed moved. Brynne