Wendy Howard wrote: > >If the gateway was reinstated we wouldn't *have* to remember to check both the list and the board! <sigh> > > So true. I've asked David to reopen the gateway. I wonder if it would help if more of us requested it. Lynne

In a message dated 9/24/2009 2:42:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: Yes--it has been noted on the Boards Admins board. You can get around the problem by visiting your admin center page and clicking the My Alerts link on the top right of the page. Your most recent posts on boards you have in My Alerts will be listed at the top. Joan ==================== Thanks, Joan. I got kind of busy for a couple days and just noticed it this morning. I didn't think to check the Board Admins. board. Lou

Yes--it has been noted on the Boards Admins board. You can get around the problem by visiting your admin center page and clicking the My Alerts link on the top right of the page. Your most recent posts on boards you have in My Alerts will be listed at the top. Joan In a message dated 9/24/2009 2:39:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, LouMKing@aol.com writes: I haven't received any Message Board Alerts for 3 days. Anyone else noticing the same thing? Lou

I haven't received any Message Board Alerts for 3 days. Anyone else noticing the same thing? Lou

Hi, I've had a few comprehensive Information Pages with lots of links that have been deleted & now are blank, on boards I admin (not a very helpful move, btw!!!). The only thing there is my admin email address. I guess all or most of those are in a similar state. Does any of you know what to expect? Once there was mention of a chance (how small?) of these pages getting restored later on, if I'm not mistaken. Should we/do you wait for restoration? Some of my pages were important for researchers in order to find appropriate information and regional genealogical data - I was repeatedly referring people to this info. Now I'm thinking about whether I should put that information back online - whould that make sense? Tilman

Considering the number of posts involved wouldn't it make more sense to just let the staff take care it? I know that staff can globally remove spam so they may also be able to do the same for this poster. I think that you will need to give the staff some time to attend to it and would just let those posts sit there until they do. If the poster continues to complain you can notify he/she that the objections were reported to the staff. Then I would point him/her to the help desk should they have any more questions/complaints/demands. J. Asche On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Robin <heartlessmaiden@verizon.net> wrote: > Judy, > > I haven't heard anything from staff yet nor have they removed any of her posts.  I will wait til the end of the week and then try to remove her posts in the middle of threads the way you have it below.  That is going to be quite a pain with over 80 objections. > > It is to aggravate but I am not going to let it get the best of me.  I am smiling here...really I am lol. > > And thanks to all on this list who have/are trying to help us both. > > Robin >

Hi, I did response to her message thru Ancestry service telling her that I have contacted staff and that someone official will be in contact with her.  So far so good.  She hasn't made any more posts on the board and no more objections.  So I will take the advice given here and wait.  This has been a very good conversation on this list on this subject and I appreciate hearing from all of you.  :) Robin ________________________________ From: Joan Asche <jasche45133@gmail.com> To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:40:42 PM Subject: Re: [BAd] Request to delete "all" posts <<If the poster continues to complain you can notify he/she that the objections were reported to the staff.  Then I would point him/her to the help desk should they have any more questions/complaints/demands. J. Asche On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Robin <heartlessmaiden@verizon.net> wrote: > Judy, > > I haven't heard anything from staff yet nor have they removed any of her posts.  I will wait til the end of the week and then try to remove her posts in the middle of threads the way you have it below.  That is going to be quite a pain with over 80 objections. > > It is to aggravate but I am not going to let it get the best of me.  I am smiling here...really I am lol. > > And thanks to all on this list who have/are trying to help us both. > > Robin > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robin, I would NOT remove these objections. LET STAFF take care of it and you do NOT have to respond anymore to the harrassing poster. Contact the Help Desk and ask them to make a note that this person has been sending you harrassing and abusive messages and forward those to Help Desk also. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Robin <heartlessmaiden@verizon.net> wrote: > Judy, > > I haven't heard anything from staff yet nor have they removed any of her posts.  I will wait til the end of the week and then try to remove her posts in the middle of threads the way you have it below.  That is going to be quite a pain with over 80 objections. > > It is to aggravate but I am not going to let it get the best of me.  I am smiling here...really I am lol. > > And thanks to all on this list who have/are trying to help us both. > > Robin -- -- Take care, ~Kathie Harrison Ancestral Whispers http://whispers.ancestralwhispers.com/

That is the key to how it works. If you normally view the threads in flat mode you have to switch so that you can see the outline of what posts are attached to which other posts and where they fall in the thread. Joan In a message dated 9/15/2009 10:51:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cageycat@gmail.com writes: But, don't forget to look at the thread first to see if any replies are under/attached to that post.

J.A. Florian wrote: ><snip> > >I know Admins can sometimes become "targets" and I really do try to remain >calm and pleasant. But sometimes, people go to extremes to "prove their >point" -- even if they are wrong! I don't think Admins should have to put >up with such harrassment. So I have asked Staff to intervene. And.... I'm >at the point this week to quit if Staff hasn't intervened. It's just not >worth it to be attacked once, twice, and more on Boards. People get snarky >on these WAP boards and act like the Boards are more like social networking >arenas instead of an area for dedicated >genealogists/researchers/volunteers. <snip> > Don't let it get you down, Judy. We've probably all been targets at one time or another. Best to not respond to the harasser and just keep deleting or reporting inappropriate posts. If you have an Ancestry account, block messages from that user ID. Staff will probably do something, but may not tell you what is being done or when. Lynne

Tilman Brandl wrote: >Hi, > >I've had a few comprehensive Information Pages with lots of links that have been deleted & now are blank, on boards I admin (not a very helpful move, btw!!!). The only thing there is my admin email address. I guess all or most of those are in a similar state. <snip> > > I've been told by staff that they're working on this issue, but no date was given for when the Board Information pages would be restored. Lynne

Tilman Brandl wrote: >Hi, > >I've had a few comprehensive Information Pages with lots of links that have been deleted & now are blank, on boards I admin (not a very helpful move, btw!!!). The only thing there is my admin email address. I guess all or most of those are in a similar state. <snip> > > I've been told by staff that they're working on this issue, but no date was given for when the Board Information pages would be restored. Lynne

Lynne: I whole heartedly agree... we cannot take it personally. Even when it is another Admin quoting posts to this list in reports of "abuse."... which has happened to me repeatedly over time. Just "step over the body" and keep on doing what we do. Cheers, Lauren On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Lynne <rwlist.admin@verizon.net> wrote: > J.A. Florian wrote: > >><snip> >> >>I know Admins can sometimes become "targets" and I really do try to remain >>calm and pleasant.  But sometimes, people go to extremes to "prove their >>point" -- even if they are wrong!  I don't think Admins should have to put >>up with such harrassment.  So I have asked Staff to intervene.  And.... I'm >>at the point this week to quit if Staff hasn't intervened.  It's just not >>worth it to be attacked once, twice, and more on Boards.  People get snarky >>on these WAP boards and act like the Boards are more like social networking >>arenas instead of an area for dedicated >>genealogists/researchers/volunteers. <snip> >> > > Don't let it get you down, Judy.  We've probably all been targets at one > time or another.  Best to not respond to the harasser and just keep > deleting or reporting  inappropriate posts.  If you have an Ancestry > account, block messages from that user ID.  Staff will probably do > something, but may not tell you what is being done or when. > > Lynne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Judy, I haven't heard anything from staff yet nor have they removed any of her posts.  I will wait til the end of the week and then try to remove her posts in the middle of threads the way you have it below.  That is going to be quite a pain with over 80 objections. It is to aggravate but I am not going to let it get the best of me.  I am smiling here...really I am lol. And thanks to all on this list who have/are trying to help us both. Robin ________________________________ From: J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:24:50 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] Request to delete "all" posts  I also used Report Abuse on ONE of her posts, with ATTENTION: STAFF and told Staff the poster wanted all her posts removed and could Staff, please, look to see if they could preserve most of the longer threads.  I deleted (per request) just one post with no replies.  I will check back today to see if Staff took care of the other objections.  If Staff doesn't, I will attempt to break the thread below the post she wants removed and move those ... then delete the poster's ONE post (or two) in the thread.  Her demand is mostly, I think, to aggravate-- to prove her point, if you will.  The posts, otherwise, are appropriate and could remain-- except for her blanket request for removal. I had also gotten a mail via Ancestry's Mail System--- I decided to NOT reply to her there at all.  I figured she's already testy, so why aggravate her further-- or risk aggravating her further.  She fully believes SHE knows how Admins "must" do their jobs and refuses to hear anything than what she believes.  So... I'll give Staff time to intervene.... and if they don't, I'll go back to split up threads and delete those single posts. What a pain! Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne" <rwlist.admin@verizon.net> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [BAd] Request to delete "all" posts > Lynne wrote: > > > In the years since I've adminned boards, that's the first time I've > heard of staff removing a post in a middle of a thread while allowing > the remaining thread to stay attached to the initial posts. > Could that explain the 'empty messages' that are sometimes in the middle of a thread ? The post is still there but the message text is deleted Fiona > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes...any posts attached to the one you move will move with it to the new location breaking up the original thread. So it really depends where in the thread hierarchy the posts fall what will happen to them in a partial thread move. Joan In a message dated 9/14/2009 6:15:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhettrick@earthlink.net writes: This has probably been answered before - but if you delete a post in the middle of a threat, it deletes all the following posts - right? So if you move a post in the middle of a threat, and you move it to the same board, will all the following posts follow? Diane

I don't think so. I think either those blank messages were corrupted to begin with, the poster hit the post button before they typed in the message, or the post became corrupted during one of the board system updates such as a changeover from one board program to another--the messages didn't transfer correctly. In a message dated 9/14/2009 5:05:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fiona.j.hall@btopenworld.com writes: Could that explain the 'empty messages' that are sometimes in the middle of a thread ? The post is still there but the message text is deleted Fiona

I am not Staff and I don't have "official" knowledge, but, IMO, with dozens of posts to delete, I think we should at least refer them to staff. They (she?) can decide if she'll do the global deletions.... and if we still have to do them, well, the objections are still there. Judy On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Diane K. Hettrick <dhettrick@earthlink.net>wrote: > These are great instructions and I will save them. > However, does Robin have to do this 89 times or is there a more global > way to deal with multiple objections from the same email address? > Diane

Diane K. Hettrick wrote: >These are great instructions and I will save them. >However, does Robin have to do this 89 times or is there a more global >way to deal with multiple objections from the same email address? > > If the poster only made 89 posts and has objected to each one, staff could be asked to do a global removal. It would only take a few minutes to judge the objections, though, unless Robin doesn't want to remove the other posts in the threads. Lynne

Rob wrote: >Hi, this is why I am getting confused. I know I cannot remove a post in the middle of a thread without removing the other posts from other people with it. Someone on this list yesterday said when this has happened to them they asked "'staff" to remove just the one posters post without removing the others and were successful. > In the years since I've adminned boards, that's the first time I've heard of staff removing a post in a middle of a thread while allowing the remaining thread to stay attached to the initial posts. It probably couldn't hurt to ask staff to do this with your posts, but personally, I wouldn't do it, figuring staff have enough to do already and if they had wanted us to do that they would have told us so. (Yeah, I know, we almost never hear from staff as a group.) If there is valuable content in the posts that follow the one to be removed, I would move them to the same board so that they won't be deleted, and then just process the deletions as requested in the objections. Lynne