Congratulations to you both! Valorie On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Lauren Boyd McLachlan <listsmonster@gmail.com> wrote: > Howdy All: > > Just thought I would pop in and say hello.  I have been quite busy for months! > > July -- Scotland for the *weekend* -- The Gathering 2009 -- Sat at > Scottish Parliament for a day and was presented to HRH Prince Charles. > > August -- Escrow closed on my new home.  Received marriage proposal. > > October 3, 2009 -- wed to Kevin B. McLachlan at the Santa Cruz > (California) Scottish Games.  Canoed down the Colorado River on part > of our honeymoon.  See more details here" > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.boyd/6563/mb.ashx  and photos on > my facebook page.... search Lauren Boyd McLachlan to find me there. > > Mo! Langdon almost attended my wedding. Almost.  ;) > > In betwixt and between I have been attending to Admin duties, but not > participating on the Admin lists. > > Cheers, > > Lauren > > -- > Lauren Boyd McLachlan > Rootsweb Volunteer since 1996 -- New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com

Howdy All: Just thought I would pop in and say hello. I have been quite busy for months! July -- Scotland for the *weekend* -- The Gathering 2009 -- Sat at Scottish Parliament for a day and was presented to HRH Prince Charles. August -- Escrow closed on my new home. Received marriage proposal. October 3, 2009 -- wed to Kevin B. McLachlan at the Santa Cruz (California) Scottish Games. Canoed down the Colorado River on part of our honeymoon. See more details here" http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.boyd/6563/mb.ashx and photos on my facebook page.... search Lauren Boyd McLachlan to find me there. Mo! Langdon almost attended my wedding. Almost. ;) In betwixt and between I have been attending to Admin duties, but not participating on the Admin lists. Cheers, Lauren -- Lauren Boyd McLachlan Rootsweb Volunteer since 1996

FYI, our favorite books spammer is at it again. Hitting the P's. Rene'

This info was sent to the Help Desk, but since it's a weekend, thought it might be a good idea to pass this along here as well. A n cestral B ooks is at it again. Too many for me to use Report Abuse: author ID - juliasmt321 134 posts so far. Here's a sampling: Surnames > Abbey Books on the Abbey Family -- 10/18/2009 Surnames > Abell Books on the Abell Family -- 10/18/2009 Surnames > Abernathy Books on the Abernathy Family -- 10/18/2009 Surnames > Acker Books on the Acker Family -- 10/18/2009 Books on the Alling Family -- 10/18/2009 Surnames > Alston Surnames > Lucas Books on the Lucas Family -- 10/17/2009 Surnames > Ludlow Books on the Ludlow Family -- 10/17/2009 Surnames > Lundy Books on the Lundy Family -- 10/17/2009 Surnames > Lunt Books on the Lunt Family -- 10/17/2009 Surnames > Lytle Books on the Lytle Family -- 10/17/2009 Lynne

Probably not Tom. Once you set username/password with Ancestry, it works for all Ancestry functions. The extra thing you must do is to set your system to accept cookies from the boards. You also have the ability to reject cookies left by companies you don't want to hear from. It is helpful to me to go into IE a couple of times a month and delete the cookies, webpages kept in temporary folders, and visited websites. Then you go back to ancestry and log in with your un/pw and everything should be ok for awhile. There can be other issues to that can happen, with ancestry servers for example, and you'll just have to work through those. I hope this helps. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> To: BOARDS-ADMINS@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [BAd] question/help with Board Info and cookies I'm having two problems that are probably related. First -- am I the only one that cannot Edit the Board Information? When I click on the Edit link, the page reloads *** and my login has been reset (IOW I must log in again). Second, it appears that my log in does not always bring up my administrative privileges. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that I use the same login information for my ancestry account as well as for my rootsweb administrator functions. thanks, Tom Cloud ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom- The Board Info issues have been on-going for some time. I reported them about a month or more ago to the HelpDesk and the reply I received told me that the developers were working on that feature and eventually it would be fixed/restored. Your login is a different issue and unrelated to the above. As long as you are using the same username/password to login it should work reliably. Make sure you are allowing cookies in your browser to maintain the info needed to log you in automatically. Joan In a message dated 10/12/2009 10:54:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tcloud@austin.rr.com writes: I'm having two problems that are probably related. First -- am I the only one that cannot Edit the Board Information? When I click on the Edit link, the page reloads *** and my login has been reset (IOW I must log in again). Second, it appears that my log in does not always bring up my administrative privileges. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that I use the same login information for my ancestry account as well as for my rootsweb administrator functions. thanks, Tom Cloud

I'm having two problems that are probably related. First -- am I the only one that cannot Edit the Board Information? When I click on the Edit link, the page reloads *** and my login has been reset (IOW I must log in again). Second, it appears that my log in does not always bring up my administrative privileges. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that I use the same login information for my ancestry account as well as for my rootsweb administrator functions. thanks, Tom Cloud

For Admins of locality boards like those described below, why don't you ask Ancestry to start "Transferred Posts Notices" just for your type of boards? Ancestry does read suggestions, so just maybe they'd think it was a grand idea to implement. Judy On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:05 AM, MJDallas <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> wrote: > Tilman Brandl wrote: > > > > for instance Poland General. Reason being that I'm not really > knowledgeable > > with Polish provinces > > I have the same difficulty when someone posts to the Poland board about > ancestors in Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, etc. - all countries that have > territory that was once Polish land. The borders of central and eastern > Europe have changed drastically over the last 200 years. It can be > truly impossible to be able to move a mis-placed post onto the correct > board without knowledge of a particular country's geography and history. > I do my best to figure out what board the post belongs on, but > sometimes a) I can't find any map site in English that gives enough info > for me to figure it out and b) sometimes there isn't a surname board to > move it to either (if any surnames are even mentioned in the post). So, > like Tilman, I move it to the country's general board, even though it > doesn't really belong there either. > > Which is why it would be nice for some sort of notice of when posts are > moved onto my boards, especially the Poland general board. I've been > researching my Polish ancestry for 20 years now, and learning the > geographical history of the country was imperative to my research. I'd > rather spend five minutes figuring out where a mis-placed post belongs > than having another admin waste a half-hour or more of their time trying > to figure it out and still ending up moving the post to the general > board because they couldn't find the answer or gave up trying. >

Tilman Brandl wrote: > > for instance Poland General. Reason being that I'm not really knowledgeable > with Polish provinces I have the same difficulty when someone posts to the Poland board about ancestors in Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, etc. - all countries that have territory that was once Polish land. The borders of central and eastern Europe have changed drastically over the last 200 years. It can be truly impossible to be able to move a mis-placed post onto the correct board without knowledge of a particular country's geography and history. I do my best to figure out what board the post belongs on, but sometimes a) I can't find any map site in English that gives enough info for me to figure it out and b) sometimes there isn't a surname board to move it to either (if any surnames are even mentioned in the post). So, like Tilman, I move it to the country's general board, even though it doesn't really belong there either. Which is why it would be nice for some sort of notice of when posts are moved onto my boards, especially the Poland general board. I've been researching my Polish ancestry for 20 years now, and learning the geographical history of the country was imperative to my research. I'd rather spend five minutes figuring out where a mis-placed post belongs than having another admin waste a half-hour or more of their time trying to figure it out and still ending up moving the post to the general board because they couldn't find the answer or gave up trying. -Marie

Lynne, > Did you mean that you posted replies after you moved the posts? Not quite sure. I guess sometimes I posted a reply before moving, and sometimes also afterwards. My aim was to alert the original poster, not people on the destination board. It seems that I better should reply after moving. As to creating offtopic posts or not - most of the times my reply isn't just "...your post has been moved", but an explanation about why + how modern Austria is quite different than the Austrian empire of before 1918. This may look OT eg. for the Poland board, but at least it's genealogically relevant information, which the majority of researchers hasn't a clue of (just my personal experience). It's true, that in the past I've often sent messages to the 'General' boards, for instance Poland General. Reason being that I'm not really knowledgeable with Polish provinces (they have even changed boundaries not so long ago, I think). I would need a detailed map or a good gazeteer in order to make a better decision. And then - more often than not, people just have a place name that does apply to several different locations, when looked up in ShtetlSeeker. No way for me to decide which province/district would fit then. Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne" <rwlist.admin@verizon.net> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [BAd] transferred posts (was Re: Deja Vu all over again...) > Tilman Brandl wrote: > >>Marie, >> >>your praise may be undeserved by me ;-) >>In the past I did indeed post replies before I moved posts, <snip> >> > > Did you mean that you posted replies after you moved the posts? > Otherwise, Marie wouldn't have been alerted to the transfers. > > It's nice that the board admin is alerted to the transfer, but the > drawback is that it leaves the board admin with the task of deleting > what I assume (never assume!) is an off-topic administrative post. > > Lynne

Lynne wrote: > Did you mean that you posted replies after you moved the posts? > Otherwise, Marie wouldn't have been alerted to the transfers. Lynne, I don't use notifications to monitor my boards - I use the My Alerts link on the boards. Whether or not a reply was made prior to or after the message was moved, I'll find the moved post through the reply, since the boards on My Alerts are arranged in the order of most recent posts on downward. -Marie

One could "assume" the administrative post gave the poster important information about the area concerned in the query so would not necessarily be administrivia to be removed. One help to avoiding a bunch of posts to GENERAL boards would be for the powers that be to restore the board information pages. Mine had information about areas/counties of a state or province to help posters select the correct area. I've noticed an upswing in needing to move posts from general to area boards since that information was wiped out. The loss of board information is darned disrespectful of us volunteers. Nancy --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Lynne <rwlist.admin@verizon.net> wrote: > From: Lynne <rwlist.admin@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [BAd] transferred posts (was Re: Deja Vu all over again...) > To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 5:54 AM > Tilman Brandl wrote: > snip > It's nice that the board admin is alerted to the transfer, > but the > drawback is that it leaves the board admin with the task of > deleting > what I assume (never assume!) is an off-topic > administrative post. > > Lynne

"J.A. Florian" wrote: > I guess I don't understand. Why would Admin B be (concerned? worried?) if > Admin A or Staff transferred (moved) a post to Admin B's board? If we > trust that each Admin does his or her job to review posts, it shouldn't > matter if Admin B was aware a post was moved. Some of the difficulty lies in the fact that admins may not want to take the time or have the knowledge/resources to figure out which province a particular town in Poland (or another country) belongs to, so they move it to the general country board. Since it doesn't belong on the country board if there are province/state boards for that country as well, it's been moved to the wrong board. If I knew when a post was moved to any of my country boards, I could then move it to the correct board if it was mis-placed. If that post never gets a reply after it's moved, I'll never know it's there. :-( Mind you, I completely understand why some posts get moved to the general country board and not to the correct province/state/county/etc. locality board, so I'm not criticizing that. -Marie

Tilman Brandl wrote: >Marie, > >your praise may be undeserved by me ;-) >In the past I did indeed post replies before I moved posts, <snip> > Did you mean that you posted replies after you moved the posts? Otherwise, Marie wouldn't have been alerted to the transfers. It's nice that the board admin is alerted to the transfer, but the drawback is that it leaves the board admin with the task of deleting what I assume (never assume!) is an off-topic administrative post. Lynne

Marie, your praise may be undeserved by me ;-) In the past I did indeed post replies before I moved posts, in fact - at the beginning of my admin career, thinking this was a good idea and normal procedure - whenever I had enough time I stopped doing so when the number of boards increased, reducing my time budget. - later I resumed that practice after I found out that the previous redirect didn't work anymore with moved messages, thus leaving people without a clue about what had happened to their messages. I stopped again after the redirect started working again, and these days do it just now and again in order to enlighten people re. European geography. Frankly speaking, it didn't cross my mind that it would also help the 'new' board's admin. If that's the case, I'll try to make it a rule, especially with Poland as the destination board ;-) Regards Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJDallas" <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [BAd] transferred posts (was Re: Deja Vu all over again...) > Lynne wrote: > >> And visiting the boards regularly allow you to view recent posts that >> were transferred to your boards which may need to be edited in some way. >> >> Wish we could receive a report of transferred posts. > > Lynne, > > Amen! One board admin, Tilman (bless his heart!), very generously takes > the time to post a reply to the transferred post, which gives me a > heads-up that there's been a post transferred. As admin of the Poland > general locality board (and 100+ others), I'm certain that there are > posts transferred there which should be on one of the province boards. > And a post transferred to the wrong board would go unnoticed as well. > For me, having some kind of notification of any transferred posts would > be very welcome. > > -Marie

J.A. Florian wrote: >I guess I don't understand. Why would Admin B be (concerned? worried?) if >Admin A or Staff transferred (moved) a post to Admin B's board? If we >trust that each Admin does his or her job to review posts, it shouldn't >matter if Admin B was aware a post was moved. Since Admin B actually moved >a post, it implies that yes, the Admin did his/her job. <snip> > If Report Abuse is used to note an off-topic message, I'm betting that most admins wouldn't first edit that post before transferring it. I usually review posts in thread view. If a post is misplaced, I only review the first in the thread and then transfer it. I agree it would be nice to review the whole thread, fix anything, and then transfer it, but that doesn't always happen, especially if the post is being transferred from a huge board to a small one. AFAIK, staff doesn't move many threads and I'm pretty sure when that happens the posts don't get reviewed first. As far as trusting that each admin does a good job reviewing posts, you only need to adopt a previously adminned board to know that doesn't happen all the time. Lynne

I guess I don't understand. Why would Admin B be (concerned? worried?) if Admin A or Staff transferred (moved) a post to Admin B's board? If we trust that each Admin does his or her job to review posts, it shouldn't matter if Admin B was aware a post was moved. Since Admin B actually moved a post, it implies that yes, the Admin did his/her job. Although it is not required duties, as Joan has said before on this List, Admins can easily review and "fix" posts before moving them so that the post/thread is appropriate to ANY board. It only makes sense, for example, to change a "HELP" subject line to a more specific and descriptive subject such as "Gary SMITH born 1892 York Co., PA, need death date". Then, after "fixing up" the thread, it's already done-done before moving it all. I'd actually be relieved/happy/okay to realize it was a moved post (usually evident by the older date), because at least it had already been seen/checked/reviewed by another Admin. It won't be spam/commercial/inappropriate, even if it lacks a fixed surname field (not required duties). If I trust other Admins to do their jobs (as I do trust), then why do I need to go check the post again? or even concern myself that a post or thread was moved into my board? Just another way to look at the issue. Judy On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM, MJDallas <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> wrote: > Lynne wrote: > > > And visiting the boards regularly allow you to view recent posts that > > were transferred to your boards which may need to be edited in some way. > > > > Wish we could receive a report of transferred posts. > > Lynne, > > Amen! One board admin, Tilman (bless his heart!), very generously takes > the time to post a reply to the transferred post, which gives me a > heads-up that there's been a post transferred. As admin of the Poland > general locality board (and 100+ others), I'm certain that there are > posts transferred there which should be on one of the province boards. > And a post transferred to the wrong board would go unnoticed as well. > For me, having some kind of notification of any transferred posts would > be very welcome. > > -Marie

Lynne wrote: > And visiting the boards regularly allow you to view recent posts that > were transferred to your boards which may need to be edited in some way. > > Wish we could receive a report of transferred posts. Lynne, Amen! One board admin, Tilman (bless his heart!), very generously takes the time to post a reply to the transferred post, which gives me a heads-up that there's been a post transferred. As admin of the Poland general locality board (and 100+ others), I'm certain that there are posts transferred there which should be on one of the province boards. And a post transferred to the wrong board would go unnoticed as well. For me, having some kind of notification of any transferred posts would be very welcome. -Marie

And visiting the boards regularly allow you to view recent posts that were transferred to your boards which may need to be edited in some way. Wish we could receive a report of transferred posts. Lynne J.A. Florian wrote: ><snip> >It's also good practice to visit the boards regularly vs. relying on alerts >because you'll miss seeing if you have Objections waiting. At least, this >is my opinion. :-) > >Judy >

Ref Digest, Vol 4, Issue 122 Well, my daily reports arrived on the 4th Oct for those who do use them as i do. These form as a record of those who have posted against that board. And at least you don’t have to keep checking to make sure you have not missed anything using the alternate . But that is your personnel choice. Stephen