Normaly, you could request for a new surname board to be created... but I'm not sure staff will do it right now, since everyone is waiting for the new board system to be put in place and any new boards would create additional work and delay that... - Option 1 - Keep note of thread and wait for the new boards to be in place... and then request a new surname board for the thread... OR Take the time to re-read the post... - Option 2 - try to figure out who in this post is the main couple, if a spouse is mention, you could adjust the title to show names of both spouses and then move it to the surname of the spouse in question... - Option 3 - if a specific location is included, you could move it to a locality board... but since it was first posted on a surname board, if you can find a suitable surname board it would be better... if you can't than consider a locality board... If anyone has a better suggestion, please feel free... Have a nice day... Johan Quoting Kaesemein@aol.com: > Hello, > > What do I do with a thread of posts for a surname that is off topic for my > board but there > is no board for that surname to move it to? > > Marilyn

Hello, What do I do with a thread of posts for a surname that is off topic for my board but there is no board for that surname to move it to? Marilyn

At 09:06 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: >But, I mean, what is best when there is only 1 or few names in the surname >box, but bunches in the attachment that are NOT in the surname field. I >know admins do not HAVE to add any surnames, but it seems with attachments >the Admin should go add the missing names or they will never show in any >Searches. That is what I wanted feedback about. >Judy Judy, As a user first, I would appreciate the surnames from the attachment being added to the indexing. In my opinion, anything we admins can do to assist the board users to locate messages is time well served. Jackie

In a message dated 7/24/2006 10:32:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, lklein@mindspring.com writes: If you want to look through all the attachments and add the surnames, I guess that's up to you, but I hope you'll consider instead that your efforts would be more valuable in adopting and cleaning up some long-neglected boards. There are plenty out there. Yeah--I'd agree with Lynne on this--you certainly CAN do it--it's a nice thing to do--but it isn't really necessary and those who choose not to do it are not "bad" admins. Joan

Judy Florian wrote: > But, I mean, what is best when there is only 1 or few names in the > surname > box, but bunches in the attachment that are NOT in the surname field. I > know admins do not HAVE to add any surnames, but it seems with > attachments > the Admin should go add the missing names or they will never show in any > Searches. That is what I wanted feedback about. I think you answered your own question, Judy: > admins do not HAVE to add any surnames Remember that it's not our job to make a poster's message perfect, only to ensure that it comes within message board guidelines. If you want to look through all the attachments and add the surnames, I guess that's up to you, but I hope you'll consider instead that your efforts would be more valuable in adopting and cleaning up some long-neglected boards. There are plenty out there. Lynne

But, I mean, what is best when there is only 1 or few names in the surname box, but bunches in the attachment that are NOT in the surname field. I know admins do not HAVE to add any surnames, but it seems with attachments the Admin should go add the missing names or they will never show in any Searches. That is what I wanted feedback about. Judy On 7/24/06, JYoung6180@aol.com <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > > > I leave those surnames in the surnames box but I do at least a > cursory check > to see that the surnames are actually in the attachment. -- ~My LANEs loved FLOWERS, and some FLOWERS even had nicknames of "Posey" LOL ~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa

In a message dated 7/24/2006 7:21:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, cageycat@gmail.com writes: Often when attachments are made for newspapers especially, the poster never adds the surnames to the field (often because it is hard to do by hand-- picking the names out, then typing them, plus these are often long lists of names). The one today is a reunion article. My uncertainty comes from the fact that none of the skipped names will get picked up by the search on the boards. Knowing we all have opinions <wink> I am sure I will get a variety of thoughts about this. I wondered how strongly Admins feel that names should be copied to the surname field from attachments -- or, not? Judy Judy- I leave those surnames in the surnames box but I do at least a cursory check to see that the surnames are actually in the attachment. Since the attachment is part of the message I don't feel this violates the intent or letter of the admin guidelines. Joan

Often when attachments are made for newspapers especially, the poster never adds the surnames to the field (often because it is hard to do by hand-- picking the names out, then typing them, plus these are often long lists of names). The one today is a reunion article. My uncertainty comes from the fact that none of the skipped names will get picked up by the search on the boards. Knowing we all have opinions <wink> I am sure I will get a variety of thoughts about this. I wondered how strongly Admins feel that names should be copied to the surname field from attachments -- or, not? Judy -- ~My LANEs loved FLOWERS, and some FLOWERS even had nicknames of "Posey" LOL ~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa

see below On Jul 23, 2006, at 6:16 PM, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:47:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jhflann@drizzle.com writes: > > Hi Folks: > > I'm the Admin for the Mercereau Message Board and the Mersereau > Message > Board. > > I'm also the Admin for the Mersereau-L Mailing list. Which is a List > for > surname Mersereau, and all its known variants. One of these variants > is > Mercereau. After the creation of the Mercereau Message Board, I tried > to get > a corresponding Mercereau-L Mailing List created, but the request was > denied, since the Mersereau-L list covered that variant. > > So, is there a way to have the Mercereau Message Board gatewayed to > the > Mersereau-L list? > > Halsey > ------------------------------------------ > Halsey- > > I think perhaps you have misunderstood the reason for the MERCEREAU > variant > list not being created. RootsWeb never denies a request for a variant > surname list as long as you would be willing to admin the list once it > is created. > At present there is a general moratorium on the creation of new lists > until > the new list management system is in place--might this have been why > your > list was denied--or rather delayed? > > Joan Halsey, This has to be right or they would have never given me boards and lists for my McCart(a)(e)(o)(in)n's. Diane

In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:47:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, jhflann@drizzle.com writes: Hi Folks: I'm the Admin for the Mercereau Message Board and the Mersereau Message Board. I'm also the Admin for the Mersereau-L Mailing list. Which is a List for surname Mersereau, and all its known variants. One of these variants is Mercereau. After the creation of the Mercereau Message Board, I tried to get a corresponding Mercereau-L Mailing List created, but the request was denied, since the Mersereau-L list covered that variant. So, is there a way to have the Mercereau Message Board gatewayed to the Mersereau-L list? Halsey Halsey- I think perhaps you have misunderstood the reason for the MERCEREAU variant list not being created. RootsWeb never denies a request for a variant surname list as long as you would be willing to admin the list once it is created. At present there is a general moratorium on the creation of new lists until the new list management system is in place--might this have been why your list was denied--or rather delayed? Joan

Hi Folks: I'm the Admin for the Mercereau Message Board and the Mersereau Message Board. I'm also the Admin for the Mersereau-L Mailing list. Which is a List for surname Mersereau, and all its known variants. One of these variants is Mercereau. After the creation of the Mercereau Message Board, I tried to get a corresponding Mercereau-L Mailing List created, but the request was denied, since the Mersereau-L list covered that variant. So, is there a way to have the Mercereau Message Board gatewayed to the Mersereau-L list? Halsey

In a message dated 7/23/2006 10:17:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, Egrdn@aol.com writes: If I Google for my great grandmother, "Vallonia Renshaw", I find several postings about her on both lists and boards. (All the postings were made by me, unfortunately.) If I Google for "Renshaw, Vallonia", I do not have any hits, although removing the quotes gives me responses. Let us remember that Newbies are quite likely to use Google to search the boards and lists. The question is, will they put the name is quotes? If we were sales people, we would use the approach which would give us the greatest number of "sales". I receive the messages in digest form, so if this topic has been covered already, my apologies. Eleanor Gordon Yeah--I should specify that my earlier comments on search capabilities were strictly speaking of searches done within the boards--not Google searches. Quoted phrases in searches mean you are looking for an exact match (phrase matching) and changing the order with a search engine that has phrase matching capability will mess up searches as Eleanor notes above. Joan

In a message dated 7/23/2006 9:31:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, jurnie1999@gmail.com writes: Sorry hit send by accident on this one. for example. John Q. Public born in Savannah, Ga the next two replies are RE: John Q. Public born in Savvannah, Ga but then someone changes it to INformation to family in Savannah < should this be RE: John Q. Public born in Savannah. Ga Should all the replies. be off the main. to mirror the first one. as the second and third are? so all the subject lines of the replies are the same? Hope I didn't get anyone cnfused on that. I'm not sure it matters all that much under the present system as long as the subject of each post is relevant to it. Again--let the poster decide what he wants for the subject. The new board system will be completely thread oriented so this may well change when it is launched. Joan

If I Google for my great grandmother, "Vallonia Renshaw", I find several postings about her on both lists and boards. (All the postings were made by me, unfortunately.) If I Google for "Renshaw, Vallonia", I do not have any hits, although removing the quotes gives me responses. Let us remember that Newbies are quite likely to use Google to search the boards and lists. The question is, will they put the name is quotes? If we were sales people, we would use the approach which would give us the greatest number of "sales". I receive the messages in digest form, so if this topic has been covered already, my apologies. Eleanor Gordon

JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > >This is another case where I'll sometimes add the locality in the subject if >the poster omitted it -- but mainly when I know from reading the message >body that the post IS relevant to the board locality. For instance, if someone >mentions Callowhill St. on the Philadelphia, PA, board and he didn't mention >Philly. I know that Callowhill St. IS in Philly and might add that >clarification to the subject--without actually changing any content of the rest of the >subject. > Yes, it's sometimes very obvious, especially on new posts. Since most of the locality boards I admin have been neglected for what looks like years, it's freqently impossible to tell from looking at recent replies what the original post was about. Consequently, I have to go back from date expanded view and and look at the whole thread in thread expanded view to figure the whole thing out. How nice it would be to "know" that the original post really belonged on that board without having to look at the initial post. I can dream, can't I? <vbg> Lynne

JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 7/23/2006 12:59:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, >genealogy@cfl.rr.com writes: > >This is a GREAT reason to gateway messages. The poster would need a >better reason to have the message removed from the list archives I >would think. > > > >No--not really. Since the author of a post owns and controls his post he >can have it removed if he wants. It isn't encouraged but can be done upon >request. > Interesting thought, Patrice! As Joan says, the poster *could* ask to have the messages removed, but will s/he think of that? Probably not, so it's likely that the posts will at least remain in the list archives. Lynne

JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > I'm must more in favor of just adding a bit to a poster's > unclear or too general subject than I am for > changing it completely or shortening it. I almost never change or edit a poster's subject on a new message, but I do edit the subject of subsequent replies to fit the content. For instance, some folks like to list all the surnames in a subject, and often the replies it receives pertain to only one or some of those surnames. About 99% of the time, the poster doesn't edit the subject and leaves all of those surnames in the subject field of their reply. I will remove the extraneous surnames, since they have nothing to do with the message content and will only generate false matches for someone using the search engine. Marie

Sorry hit send by accident on this one. for example. John Q. Public born in Savannah, Ga the next two replies are RE: John Q. Public born in Savvannah, Ga but then someone changes it to INformation to family in Savannah < should this be RE: John Q. Public born in Savannah. Ga Should all the replies. be off the main. to mirror the first one. as the second and third are? so all the subject lines of the replies are the same? Hope I didn't get anyone cnfused on that.

ok that brings up another question. Lets say you have a line of posts the main and then 5 replies. Onlong the way the subject line is changed but still deals with the main post. Should all the replies be labled as the main Ex. John On 7/23/06, rwlistsboards@comcast.net <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> wrote: > > JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > > I'm must more in favor of just adding a bit to a poster's > > unclear or too general subject than I am for > > changing it completely or shortening it. > > I almost never change or edit a poster's subject on a new message, > but I do edit the subject of subsequent replies to fit the content. > For instance, some folks like to list all the surnames in a > subject, and often the replies it receives pertain to only one or > some of those surnames. About 99% of the time, the poster doesn't > edit the subject and leaves all of those surnames in the subject > field of their reply. I will remove the extraneous surnames, since > they have nothing to do with the message content and will only > generate false matches for someone using the search engine. > > Marie > > > > ==== BOARDS-ADMINS Mailing List ==== > If you want off this list, click this link: > mailto:BOARDS-ADMINS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 7/23/2006 12:59:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, genealogy@cfl.rr.com writes: This is a GREAT reason to gateway messages. The poster would need a better reason to have the message removed from the list archives I would think. No--not really. Since the author of a post owns and controls his post he can have it removed if he wants. It isn't encouraged but can be done upon request. Joan