In a message dated 8/30/2006 4:50:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu writes: There is a message right now that does not include any of those items I look for in determining appropriateness, but it does include specific test names. Would those of you who are tolerant of rule-abiding DNA messages allow the following to stay on one of the boards you admin: ----------- Absolutely I'd let it stay. It is certainly relevant to the surname board it is on. Sharon Dulcich

Fellow admins, I am generally very tolerant of DNA-project-related messages placed on the message boards that I admin as long as there is no mention of a specific lab or dollar amounts, and no link for a specific testing company (so as not to fall into the commercial category). There is a message right now that does not include any of those items I look for in determining appropriateness, but it does include specific test names. Would those of you who are tolerant of rule-abiding DNA messages allow the following to stay on one of the boards you admin: <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jQEBAIB/136> -- Thanks, Mary

You cannot criticize other people or any > thing on the Rootsweb system. I need to ask where in Acceptable Use it says a user cannot criticise Rootsweb or Ancestry? This was brought up by a List Owner a ways back and I thought it was possibly a personal ideaology that made her demand that there be no complaining about Ancestry. But, since I'm seeing this for a second time, I thought I'd ask. Personally, I feel any person using any service (even free) or product (even free) has the free speech right to comment about what they don't like about the service / product. IF the post was nothing but complaint, I'd suggest the Suggestion Board. Usually on Lists, the conversation is self-limiting, so IF I was a List-Owner, it wouldn't bother me. Typical complaints are about errors in Ancestry indexing or with their images. Anyway, could you enlighten me Joan? Judy -- ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa

Sharon, Thanks for your input on this and your additions are very helpful. I'm still working on the wording and trying to refine them but I suppose I'm going to set the project a side for week or so until I get my migrated mailing lists all squared away. Thanks, Marilyn ------------------------original message------------------ In a message dated 8/29/2006 9:36:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DULCICH6@aol.com writes: Marilyn, I'd like to expand on a couple or so: Birth, Death and Marriage can also include notices of those various vitals posted from a newspaper. Lookup is a rather odd classification for those that are offering to DO lookups from certain sources they may have access to. This is not limited to vital stats nor to posts that have mixed info from various sources. Sharon Dulcich

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BF.2ADIAE/1200 Message Board Post: I'm the admin for the Shockley mailing list. I tried to contact the admin for the Shockley board, but the email address there is not a good one and my messages all came back as non deliverable. I put a message on the board asking her to contact me and giving my email address. Nothing.... That board isn't gatewayed to the list, and I wanted to ask about making it that way. We're talking about a juno.com address. Isn't that one defunct anyway?? What else should I do to reach her?

Mary: When in doubt about an issue like this the best thing to do is send a message to messageboards@rootsweb.com and request an official opinion. Many admins have many different opinions, it is best to get the opinion of the persons who are in charge of of the messageboards as a whole. Shade >From: "Mary D. Taffet" <mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu> >Reply-To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com >To: BOARDS-ADMINS-L <BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [BAd] Question about appropriateness of a message >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:49:44 -0400 > >Fellow admins, > >I am generally very tolerant of DNA-project-related messages placed on >the message boards that I admin as long as there is no mention of a >specific lab or dollar amounts, and no link for a specific testing >company (so as not to fall into the commercial category). > >There is a message right now that does not include any of those items I >look for in determining appropriateness, but it does include specific >test names. Would those of you who are tolerant of rule-abiding DNA >messages allow the following to stay on one of the boards you admin: > > <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jQEBAIB/136> > >-- Thanks, > Mary > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Being a yDNA surname admin myself, I see nothing wrong with it. Y DNA tests are for specific surnames, and the person just lists the different spellings for that particular surname. Now I did see an error in information about the mtDNA test but that is not here or there.. Personally, it follows all the rules... no company named no moneies mentioned... I'd say a nice informative message.. Nelda List and Board Admin and YDNA surname group admin... Nelda's websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ yDNA tests for Hurst, Beatty, Gilpin, Graves; all direct male relatives ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mary D. Taffet" <mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu> Reply-To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com To: BOARDS-ADMINS-L <BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BAd] Question about appropriateness of a message Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:49:44 -0400 Fellow admins, I am generally very tolerant of DNA-project-related messages placed on the message boards that I admin as long as there is no mention of a specific lab or dollar amounts, and no link for a specific testing company (so as not to fall into the commercial category). There is a message right now that does not include any of those items I look for in determining appropriateness, but it does include specific test names. Would those of you who are tolerant of rule-abiding DNA messages allow the following to stay on one of the boards you admin: <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jQEBAIB/136> -- Thanks, Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 8/30/2006 5:06:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, wizardnc@comporium.net writes: The administrator is in charge. You cannot criticize other people or any thing on the Rootsweb system. If you want to do that you must do it privately between yourself and the person you have a problem with, not publicly. I'd tell you the same thing on any one of my 100 + boards and lists. Just because you are subscribed to a board or list, does not give you the right to set your own rules. Steve Boards are different animals than lists and they have a different set of rules. While the admin is king (pretty much) on his lists the same isn't true of boards. For instance--I can't decide on a US county message board that ONLY the USGenWeb coordinator can post information for the county and those holding other resources are not permitted--if I manage a county board that board has to be available for all who wish to post legitimate (relevant) posts to the board. It depends on what you mean by criticizing whether or not it might be appropriate on a board or not. For instance--two researchers can disagree on what various evidence indicates and that is permissable on a board. You can even post items you might not like about WorldConnect or Ancestry on the WorldConnect Suggestions Board or the Ancestry Site Comments Board. What can't happen on a board is personal attacks and personalities, but certainly polite disagreement and criticism is permitted. Joan

I see no harm in this post and I would allow it myself. I would also have allowed the link to their personal website had it been included. Jan -----Original Message----- From: boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary D. Taffet Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:50 PM To: BOARDS-ADMINS-L Subject: [BAd] Question about appropriateness of a message Fellow admins, I am generally very tolerant of DNA-project-related messages placed on the message boards that I admin as long as there is no mention of a specific lab or dollar amounts, and no link for a specific testing company (so as not to fall into the commercial category). There is a message right now that does not include any of those items I look for in determining appropriateness, but it does include specific test names. Would those of you who are tolerant of rule-abiding DNA messages allow the following to stay on one of the boards you admin: <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jQEBAIB/136> -- Thanks, Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The administrator is in charge. You cannot criticize other people or any thing on the Rootsweb system. If you want to do that you must do it privately between yourself and the person you have a problem with, not publicly. I'd tell you the same thing on any one of my 100 + boards and lists. Just because you are subscribed to a board or list, does not give you the right to set your own rules. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: <jeffchip9@hotmail.com> To: <BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: [BAd] administrator of the Bradford board > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BF.2ADIAE/1199 > > Message Board Post: > > I have been told by this administrator that I cannot criticize a public > website on his board; he says I must privately email the operator of the > board. > > I want to know who this is, and how do I lodge a complaint. Evidently > posters to the Bradford board do not enjoy freedom of speech. > > Jeffrey T. Chipman > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'd like to see a link by the Classification window that gives a description of what type of post is covered by each Classification. And for those that just give a general reply, why couldn't there be a Classification of "Reply" or General "Reply"...... For example..... Query -- Can someone post the address of the XXXXX County Library where I can write for copies of newspaper obits? "Reply" -- That address is 100 Main St., Anytown, USA None of the other categories would fit the above reply. Lou -------------------original message----------------------- In a message dated 8/30/2006 3:02:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: There was talk during board testing sometime back about renaming this classification LOOKUP REQUESTS but I'm not exactly sure what that classification would encompass either--requests for lookups in specific publications and resources I think. I still feel those are better left as queries because that is what they are.

In a message dated 8/30/2006 1:54:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, jaws64@comlinkusa.net writes: If the name of the classification was simply changed to "volunteers" it would create misclassified posts. I have a prolific lookup volunteer on one board who posts everything she finds on an individual in one message - one week she made 27 posts of lookup information, but her average is 10-12 *per week*. As you can see, I use this classification frequently and would be opposed to **ANY** change whatsoever. Jackie There was talk during board testing sometime back about renaming this classification LOOKUP REQUESTS but I'm not exactly sure what that classification would encompass either--requests for lookups in specific publications and resources I think. I still feel those are better left as queries because that is what they are. Joan

I am probably wrong to do so but in this case on the reply I use the blank option. It mentions no surnames so it is doubtful anyone would be looking for that specific thing in a search IMHO. Jan -----Original Message----- From: boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LouMKing@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:07 PM To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAd] What's the Point of the Classification Feature? I'd like to see a link by the Classification window that gives a description of what type of post is covered by each Classification. And for those that just give a general reply, why couldn't there be a Classification of "Reply" or General "Reply"...... For example..... Query -- Can someone post the address of the XXXXX County Library where I can write for copies of newspaper obits? "Reply" -- That address is 100 Main St., Anytown, USA None of the other categories would fit the above reply. Lou -------------------original message----------------------- In a message dated 8/30/2006 3:02:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: There was talk during board testing sometime back about renaming this classification LOOKUP REQUESTS but I'm not exactly sure what that classification would encompass either--requests for lookups in specific publications and resources I think. I still feel those are better left as queries because that is what they are. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

But that volunteer is misusing the classification. It is not <i>meant</i> for the results of doing lookups. -----Original Message----- From: boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of JYoung6180@aol.com Sent: Wed 8/30/2006 11:07 AM To: jaws64@comlinkusa.net; boards-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAd] What's the Point of the Classification Feature? In a message dated 8/30/2006 1:54:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, jaws64@comlinkusa.net writes: If the name of the classification was simply changed to "volunteers" it would create misclassified posts. I have a prolific lookup volunteer on one board who posts everything she finds on an individual in one message - one week she made 27 posts of lookup information, but her average is 10-12 *per week*. As you can see, I use this classification frequently and would be opposed to **ANY** change whatsoever. Jackie There was talk during board testing sometime back about renaming this classification LOOKUP REQUESTS but I'm not exactly sure what that classification would encompass either--requests for lookups in specific publications and resources I think. I still feel those are better left as queries because that is what they are. Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed Aug 30 2:58 , genealogy@cfl.rr.com sent: >At 8/29/2006 02:56 PM, "Teri Pettit" pettit@adobe.com> wrote: >>Since almost nobody knows that is what it was meant for, it does >>seem confusing to leave it in the system. If it is left in, "Lookup >>Volunteers" or even just "Volunteers" might be better at conveying the intent. > >That is a brilliant idea. Simply change the name to "Volunteers". > >Rel@ively, >Patrice > If the name of the classification was simply changed to "volunteers" it would create misclassified posts. I have a prolific lookup volunteer on one board who posts everything she finds on an individual in one message - one week she made 27 posts of lookup information, but her average is 10-12 *per week*. As you can see, I use this classification frequently and would be opposed to **ANY** change whatsoever. Jackie ---- Want your own e-mail domain like yourfamilyname.com? With Lightning Jack it's easy, all you need to do is go to http://www.nex-tech.com/CheckDomain.aspx and signup. ---- Message sent via Lightning Jack Webmail - http://www.nex-tech.com

At 8/29/2006 02:56 PM, "Teri Pettit" <pettit@adobe.com> wrote: >Mary is right about the original intent. > >The meaning of "Lookup" in the system that was replaced by the >Rootsweb boards was for people to list books, microfilms and other >data sources that they were OFFERING to do lookups in, not that they >were asking for lookups in. The user could do a search with the >Category being "Lookup" and the search term being the name of a book >or whatever, and see if there was anyone who had offered to do >lookups in that source. > >Since almost nobody knows that is what it was meant for, it does >seem confusing to leave it in the system. If it is left in, "Lookup >Volunteers" or even just "Volunteers" might be better at conveying the intent. That is a brilliant idea. Simply change the name to "Volunteers". Rel@ively, Patrice

In a message dated 8/29/2006 11:04:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, carlette@centurytel.net writes: ok, I've been reading the questions and answers thinking that the one I have would show up. So far, it hasn't, so I guess I'll have to ask it........ :o) In those classifications, where should the post go if it's something like "oh, those are my people, too, contact me." or, "I'm going there next week and will look for you." I wish we had something like "comment" or some such............ Carlette Carlette- Queries. Anything that isn't clearly DATA is classified as query. Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BF.2ADIAE/1199.1 Message Board Post: Jeff, To file an official complaint, by going here and following the prompts: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/form1.html Good luck to you. David Bradford List/Board Admin

Marilyn, I'd like to expand on a couple or so: Birth, Death and Marriage can also include notices of those various vitals posted from a newspaper. Lookup is a rather odd classification for those that are offering to DO lookups from certain sources they may have access to. This is not limited to vital stats nor to posts that have mixed info from various sources. Sharon Dulcich ----------------------------- In a message dated 8/29/2006 4:02:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kaesemein@aol.com writes: Query - A question seeking information or data. Bible - Information that is posted from someone's family Bible. Biography - Posted information that doesn't come from official records. It may be from a book, newspaper article, family tree or general information about a person that someone has knowledge of. Birth - Official birth records. Cemetery - Information from cemetery burial books or headstones. Census - Transcriptions of census records Death - Information from death certificates or from a book of transcribed death records. Deed - Information from deeds or land ownership records. Immigration - Information from immigration or citizenship records. Lookup - Several sources of information such as birth, death and marriage records, all in the same post, where someone has done a lookup in reply to a query. Marriage - A record from the court house with official marriage license information. Military - Official record of someone's military service. Obituary - Transcription of a newspaper obituary. Pension - Information about an official record of a military pension -- may apply to Civil War or Revolutionary War survivors or their widows. Will - A copy of a will from the court. All of the above can either be a reply to a Query or not. They may be posted just because they apply to this county board. I'd appreciate opinions if any of these don't make sense or should be expanded on, as I'm not certain if they all sound correct. Thanks for your help, Marilyn

ok, I've been reading the questions and answers thinking that the one I have would show up. So far, it hasn't, so I guess I'll have to ask it........ :o) In those classifications, where should the post go if it's something like "oh, those are my people, too, contact me." or, "I'm going there next week and will look for you." I wish we had something like "comment" or some such............ Carlette ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [BAd] What's the Point of the Classification Feature? > > In a message dated 8/29/2006 1:47:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jasche45133@gmail.com writes: > > I've been told that lookup is used for information that is provided in > answer to a question when the information comes from a reference > source. > > For example, someone asks about a cemetery. I find the information in > a published book for that cemetery and pass that info along as an > answer to the original question. My response goes under the lookup > classification. > > I hope this is correct as this is how I've been doing it. ;-) > > Joan Asche > > > > Actually your reply should then be CEMETERY in classification. That is > what > I dislike about the LOOKUP classification--why would anyone ever SEARCH > on > it? If they were looking for for cemetery data--that is the > classification > they would search on. > > I think what most of us decided was that we'd ONLY use LOOKUP for data > posts > that were replies to mixed types of data--and where the classification > would > fit other data classifications. > > Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >