At 12:28 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote: >Jackie- > >Yes--and notice that the article sort of sidesteps what a LOOKUP really >is--I think LOOKUP confuses everyone because it doesn't really fit >any real query >or data classification. The query classification is for all queries, and >the data classifications are for the types of data--and the fact that you >physically lookup up the data in a specific source is NOT a data >type--which is >what makes the classification so nebulous (and in my opinion worthless). > >Joan Joan, While the article does not specifically address a definition for LOOKUP (but then again, it doesn't specifically define any of the DATA classifications), based on the information the article does contain, I believe the following are reasonable conclusions: 1. LOOKUP is not for requesting lookups ("if you request a lookup, it is classified as a QUERY -- not as a DEED, MARRIAGE, or LOOKUP") 2. LOOKUP should contain transcribed data ("Only transcribed data are classified as one of the data types.") 3. No mention is made of offering to DO a lookup. In a way (inmo), lookup offers are the question "Does anyone need a lookup in XX source?" What classification would you suggest using for posts containing 5-6 different types of data (census, marriage, death, obituary and cemetery)? Jackie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006

(Sorry for the delay in responding, my computer was out of commission.) At 05:36 PM 8/31/2006, you wrote: >Jackie, > >Clearly there is more than one opinion on what LOOKUP means. That being the case, one should not accuse someone else is "misusing" the classification. >I always thought, and several others concurred, that LOOKUP was reserved >for those who were offering to do lookups for others from some source >available to them. Originally (back in 2001), I agreed with that opinion. But Rootsweb Review included this in the 7/24/2002 issue: "CLASSIFICATION: The purpose of proper classification of messages is to enable Message Board users to view and/or search messages by data type. If you are posting a query or replying to a query, use the default classification of QUERY from the drop-down menu. If you are posting actual data, select the type that most closely matches the type of information you are posting: BIBLE, CEMETERY, WILL, DEED, PENSION, MARRIAGE, BIOGRAPHY, etc. (These are all listed under MESSAGE TYPE). If you post a question about a document, such as a deed or a marriage record, or **if you request a lookup**, it is classified as a QUERY -- not as a DEED, MARRIAGE, or LOOKUP. **Only transcribed data** are classified as one of the data types." (** emphasis added by jwg) The full article is at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/20020724.txt Jackie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BF.2ADIAE/1202 Message Board Post: Dear Admins, Some time ago we announced a planned message board update. Those updates have been delayed, and we appreciate your patience as we work to improve our message boards. Thanks, Ancestry.com and RootsWeb.com Product Management

For those using Windows they also have a tool under Accessories called Magnifier. You can change how large you want to see a certain section that way. It works very nicely, especially for some of ancestry's small print. Jan -----Original Message----- From: boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Decampnews@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:38 AM To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAd] small font I tried this on several Ancestry pages, and it doesn't work. One exception is on the Message Boards, where CTRL-scroll key changes the size of the font in the navigation bar and the bullets before each message, but not the text in the messages themselves. Other sites are similarly erratic. For example, AOL's mail pages don't change size with CTRL-scroll. This is a big problem for anyone with limited vision. Does anyone know why this happens? Is it a setting on my computer? If not, who should we contact at Ancestry to see about fixing it? Wilson In a message dated 9/4/2006 3:26:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cunningham53@bellsouth.net writes: While holding down the "Control" key use the scroll key in the middle of your mouse to make fonts smaller or larger when viewing messages. You can use this feature in lots of applications. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWListOwner@aol.com> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] small font >I really appreciate the small font that is now in force. I only have to use > the magnifying glass almost 100% of the time. I've been told that I can > make > my AOL font larger so that the fonts on Rootsweb is bigger. That is > great, but > I have to try to get it back and forth every day. > > Is there a reason that Ancestry is using the smaller font???? > > Has anybody from Ancestry even said why they are using it??? > > Any answer that makes sense is appreciated. > Bob ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mac users who use the Safari browser just go to View and select "Make text bigger" or on the keyboard use Apple and +. You can do this perhaps 6 times before it maxes out - but then it's so big you can read it across the room LOL Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Mark Hadlund wrote: > After opening your browser, go to the tools menu and select options. > That > will bring up another menu. Select the General settings, you will be > able to > increase the font size. But, I don't know how to do it on a Mac. > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Decampnews@aol.com> > To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:37 AM > Subject: Re: [BAd] small font > >> >> I tried this on several Ancestry pages, and it doesn't work. One >> exception >> is on the Message Boards, where CTRL-scroll key changes the size of >> the font >> in the navigation bar and the bullets before each message, but not >> the text >> in the messages themselves. Other sites are similarly erratic. For >> example, >> AOL's mail pages don't change size with CTRL-scroll. >> >> >> Wilson >> >> In a message dated 9/4/2006 3:26:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> cunningham53@bellsouth.net writes: >> >> While holding down the "Control" key use the scroll key in the >> middle of >> your mouse to make fonts smaller or larger when viewing messages. >> You can >> use >> this feature in lots of applications. >>

After opening your browser, go to the tools menu and select options. That will bring up another menu. Select the General settings, you will be able to increase the font size. But, I don't know how to do it on a Mac. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: <Decampnews@aol.com> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] small font > > I tried this on several Ancestry pages, and it doesn't work. One > exception > is on the Message Boards, where CTRL-scroll key changes the size of the > font > in the navigation bar and the bullets before each message, but not the > text > in the messages themselves. Other sites are similarly erratic. For > example, > AOL's mail pages don't change size with CTRL-scroll. > > This is a big problem for anyone with limited vision. Does anyone know > why > this happens? Is it a setting on my computer? If not, who should we > contact > at Ancestry to see about fixing it? > > Wilson > > In a message dated 9/4/2006 3:26:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cunningham53@bellsouth.net writes: > > While holding down the "Control" key use the scroll key in the middle of > your mouse to make fonts smaller or larger when viewing messages. You can > use > this feature in lots of applications. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RWListOwner@aol.com> > To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:09 AM > Subject: Re: [BAd] small font > > >>I really appreciate the small font that is now in force. I only have to >>use >> the magnifying glass almost 100% of the time. I've been told that I can >> make >> my AOL font larger so that the fonts on Rootsweb is bigger. That is >> great, but >> I have to try to get it back and forth every day. >> >> Is there a reason that Ancestry is using the smaller font???? >> >> Has anybody from Ancestry even said why they are using it??? >> >> Any answer that makes sense is appreciated. >> Bob > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I tried this on several Ancestry pages, and it doesn't work. One exception is on the Message Boards, where CTRL-scroll key changes the size of the font in the navigation bar and the bullets before each message, but not the text in the messages themselves. Other sites are similarly erratic. For example, AOL's mail pages don't change size with CTRL-scroll. This is a big problem for anyone with limited vision. Does anyone know why this happens? Is it a setting on my computer? If not, who should we contact at Ancestry to see about fixing it? Wilson In a message dated 9/4/2006 3:26:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cunningham53@bellsouth.net writes: While holding down the "Control" key use the scroll key in the middle of your mouse to make fonts smaller or larger when viewing messages. You can use this feature in lots of applications. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWListOwner@aol.com> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] small font >I really appreciate the small font that is now in force. I only have to use > the magnifying glass almost 100% of the time. I've been told that I can > make > my AOL font larger so that the fonts on Rootsweb is bigger. That is > great, but > I have to try to get it back and forth every day. > > Is there a reason that Ancestry is using the smaller font???? > > Has anybody from Ancestry even said why they are using it??? > > Any answer that makes sense is appreciated. > Bob

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BF.2ADIAE/1201.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, I'll do that right now.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BF.2ADIAE/1201.1 Message Board Post: Carlette- Since you are the admin of both the SCHOCKLEY list and board, send an email to board staff to turn on the gateway between the list and board: messageboards@rootsweb.com. Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BF.2ADIAE/1201 Message Board Post: I just took over the Shockley board. I am also admin for the Shockley mailing list. Right now, for whatever reason, the board posts don't go to the list. What do I have to do in order for that to happen?? Thanks, Carlette

Where are you seeing the change in font? I don't have anything different?? Kay C > 3. Re: small font (RWListOwner@aol.com) > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:09:01 EDT > From: RWListOwner@aol.com > Subject: Re: [BAd] small font > To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <24b.fd628fa.322bcb7d@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I really appreciate the small font that is now in force. I only have to > use > the magnifying glass almost 100% of the time. I've been told that I can > make > my AOL font larger so that the fonts on Rootsweb is bigger. That is > great, but > I have to try to get it back and forth every day. > > Is there a reason that Ancestry is using the smaller font???? > > Has anybody from Ancestry even said why they are using it??? > > Any answer that makes sense is appreciated. > Bob > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BOARDS-ADMINS list administrator, send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BOARDS-ADMINS mailing list, send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BOARDS-ADMINS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 23 > ******************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 > >

While holding down the "Control" key use the scroll key in the middle of your mouse to make fonts smaller or larger when viewing messages. You can use this feature in lots of applications. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWListOwner@aol.com> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] small font >I really appreciate the small font that is now in force. I only have to use > the magnifying glass almost 100% of the time. I've been told that I can > make > my AOL font larger so that the fonts on Rootsweb is bigger. That is > great, but > I have to try to get it back and forth every day. > > Is there a reason that Ancestry is using the smaller font???? > > Has anybody from Ancestry even said why they are using it??? > > Any answer that makes sense is appreciated. > Bob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 > >

I really appreciate the small font that is now in force. I only have to use the magnifying glass almost 100% of the time. I've been told that I can make my AOL font larger so that the fonts on Rootsweb is bigger. That is great, but I have to try to get it back and forth every day. Is there a reason that Ancestry is using the smaller font???? Has anybody from Ancestry even said why they are using it??? Any answer that makes sense is appreciated. Bob

Thank you Ed. I just want something close by incase I should ever have to reference it. I will bookmark this also. Sincerely, Valeria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Elizondo" <ed@elizondo.org> To: <BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: [BAd] copyright info > >>Message: 1 >>Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:52:44 -0400 >>From: "Valeria" <LadyGenes@comcast.net> >>Subject: [BAd] Copyright Link >>To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> >>Message-ID: <00f201c6cdcd$e70593d0$6501a8c0@HP> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>If anyone knows of a good link that one could go to to read about >>copyright laws or infringements post one? I would like to put a link >>on my announcement boards in case someone has a question. >> >>Thank you in advance, >> >>Valeria > > Valeria, > > Here is the official source: > > http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html > > > Ed Elizondo Webmaster: http://www.Cubagenweb.org > Administrator: Cuban Surname Bulletin Board & CUBA-L list > > >

>Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:52:44 -0400 >From: "Valeria" <LadyGenes@comcast.net> >Subject: [BAd] Copyright Link >To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <00f201c6cdcd$e70593d0$6501a8c0@HP> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >If anyone knows of a good link that one could go to to read about >copyright laws or infringements post one? I would like to put a link >on my announcement boards in case someone has a question. > >Thank you in advance, > >Valeria Valeria, Here is the official source: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html Ed Elizondo Webmaster: http://www.Cubagenweb.org Administrator: Cuban Surname Bulletin Board & CUBA-L list

In a message dated 9/1/2006 3:58:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, meow8@verizon.net writes: We need to be clear on this: ROOTSWEB has NOT provided a definition for LOOKUP. Several admins have expressed their opinions of what it 'should' mean but there is no official definition of what it 'does' mean. Regards, Sharyn Actually RootsWeb never HAD a definition of LOOKUP in that it wasn't a classification created BY RootsWeb per se. It was a carryover from a request made by a research group for a test board. So the original definition was whatever the Fox Research Group wanted it to be--and RootsWeb never fully defined the classification when deciding to merely carryover the existing classifications--even if they only had been available for the single test board. I do recall that during the board testing not long ago it was discussed that the classification would become LOOKUP REQUEST and would pertain to a request for a lookup in a specific resource--such as "would someone please lookup the name McConnell in the 1920 Philadelphia City Directory." I can't say I'm in favor of this change--and I have no idea if it is still even under consideration but LOOKUP has been the great undefined classification from the very start. Joan Joan

Just my own two cents worth and nothing else, but in this and many other areas I think RW SHOULD make clearly defined rules for some things. If they did, AND could get the Admins to follow them, a number of things would work a lot more smoothly IMHO. Nothing wrong with the classifications, not really, but so long as they are not defined anywhere they are on little or no value. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net davidecann@gmail.com (alternate) -----Original Message----- From: boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharyn Hay Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 3:57 PM To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAd] LOOKUP classification <snip> We need to be clear on this: ROOTSWEB has NOT provided a definition for LOOKUP. Several admins have expressed their opinions of what it 'should' mean but there is no official definition of what it 'does' mean. Regards, Sharyn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Buker" <jcbuker@bukerfamily.org> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] LOOKUP classification > I didn't mean to start a hornet's nest of discussion when I asked the > difference between query and lookup but I'm glad I asked. At this point I > think it is up to RootsWeb since they provided the definition. I do prefer > the lookup offer option myself, it makes more sense than anything else but I > agree with Joan that I think it should "go away" completely as an useless > category. I do like the idea of there being a volunteer category available > though. The less ambiguity for admins the better. > > Jan B. > We need to be clear on this: ROOTSWEB has NOT provided a definition for LOOKUP. Several admins have expressed their opinions of what it 'should' mean but there is no official definition of what it 'does' mean. Regards, Sharyn

I didn't mean to start a hornet's nest of discussion when I asked the difference between query and lookup but I'm glad I asked. At this point I think it is up to RootsWeb since they provided the definition. I do prefer the lookup offer option myself, it makes more sense than anything else but I agree with Joan that I think it should "go away" completely as an useless category. I do like the idea of there being a volunteer category available though. The less ambiguity for admins the better. Jan B. -----Original Message----- From: boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Davis, James R CIV OSD DMEA Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:59 PM To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: [BAd] LOOKUP classification I agree with Mary, LOOKUP is a classification used to offer Lookups. Then a researcher, by limiting there search to the Lookup classification, could quickly determine what sources were being offered for lookups either on a surname board or a locality board and then request help from the appropiate person. I suppose the looked up response would automatically carry the same classification as the message it was responding to, but maybe there are cases when this would not be advisable. Otherwise why not post a query with a title "LOOKUP REQUEST: Source title" and see what response you might get. However now that I think of it why couldn't this request be classified LOOKUP? So now how about a query like this? LOOKUP OBIT: Need to find obit for Sally Jones who died 1/25/06. How do you classify this? <grin> Since this seems to be so confusing I would suggest having better instructions places somewhere readily available <grin> for those who will bother to read them. James R. Davis, Sacramento, CA -----Original Message----- From: boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boards-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary D. Taffet Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:37 PM To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAd] What's the Point of the Classification Feature? Jackie, Clearly there is more than one opinion on what LOOKUP means. I always thought, and several others concurred, that LOOKUP was reserved for those who were offering to do lookups for others from some source available to them. In other words, this would be BEFORE any lookup was ever done. Joan has a different interpretation which you have quoted below. Teri's interpretation is probably more in line with what I thought to be the case. -- Mary On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Jackie Wilson Goddard wrote: > Teri, > > I truly beg to differ. As Joan said in an earlier post in this thread (to be specific: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOARDS-ADMINS/2006-08/1156871165 > ) "LOOKUP has a limited usage for replies to queries that quote data from a variety of sources." > > 1. These posts are "replies to queries". > 2. They "quote data". > 3. The data is from "a variety of sources". > > If LOOKUP is not "the results of doing lookups", what is your definition? > > Jackie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Joan! Valeria