In a message dated 11/17/2006 3:02:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, judi_s1@msn.com writes: I cannot seem to Post a New Message, I do Not see a "Post New Message" link for me to use????? HELP Judi Judi- Might you be viewing a board you do not admin from the admin board interface? This would be the only reason I can think of for not seeing a POST NEW MESSAGE link on a board. On admin boards only the admin of the board sees the POST NEW MESSAGE link. Joan

In a message dated 11/17/2006 6:56:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, cageycat@gmail.com writes: I'm gonna report it. It sure makes me feel nutty... the case of the disappearing categories... Where is Perry Mason? lol Judy It can be very frustrating to see something you shouldn't (or not see something you should be seeing) on the boards (or on any webpage). No one doubts what you are seeing even if we don't see the same issues with our boards -- the problem is to report it with enough details for the developers to figure out the nature of the problem and fix it or explain what happened. Joan

Yeah, BUT not every Admin can "catch" these before they go on to the List anyway. Soooo.... I just leave them unless it is excessive. No use deleting cos the post already hit the List before I even saw the post! Judy On 11/17/06, Tom Hesler <hesler@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > At 08:52 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote: > > >I think you will get a lot of opinions about this one but I usually > >just leave them unless it is excessive and leads to general chit-chat > >that doesn't relate to anything genealogical. > > > >On 11/17/06, Donna <dkcooper6@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Should the "thank you & me too" be left on the boards or removed? > > > > > > Thanks, Donna > > I know there are a lot of opinions about this, and these are the > types of posts I believe that should not go to mail lists on > gatewayed boards. I know some believe all posts to a board should go > to the list, but these types cause many on the lists to complain. > > Just my humble opinion. > > > Regards, > Tom Hesler > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa Steve Irwin Warriors please sign map at: http://www.frappr.com/steveirwinwarriors

In a message dated 11/17/2006 8:48:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, jasche45133@gmail.com writes: Okay, sorry for venting about the lack of help at the help desk as I said I am frustrated with the 'system.' It isn't always possible for the HelpDesk to give you an answer to programming questions--especially where the boards are concerned. I'm sure they pass along the "bugs" that are reported but can't always be expected to give you every detail of what is being done to fix things. Perhaps it might help to know that the boards are housed on a group of servers (sor of a "round robin" setup)--not just one--and sometimes when we see something really "quirky" or intermittent there might be a problem with ONE or TWO of the servers in the group. It is especially hard to find and fix a problem that only shows up SOMETIMES and on SOME of the servers but not on all of them. When reporting a bug always include WHEN you encountered the problem, and exactly what you are doing (or trying to do) at the time you ran into the problem, along with what browser you are using to access the boards. You won't always be consulted or told that the problem is being worked on--but if you report it to the HelpDesk you can rest assured that the problem will be relayed to those whose job it is to fix the problems. Joan

Ok, I only had to explain myself & the problems a zillion times to ancestry technical support, BUT they finally got my point. They made me mad, wanting me to delete cookies etc. But I convinced them it is not just "me" seeing the issues! geesh. They're calling the big-wigs and checking the problems on the boards. I went through my 70 some boards and hit & miss some boards are missing ALL classifications. These ALL reverted to green (user) or Blue (admin side) instead of black links. But like DAGER is fine, but DAGGER is not. So it does not seem to be by alphabet. Maybe all the bad boards are on one part of the database, I don't know. Maybe they can restore them. Or I suggested re-setting bad boards to query-default--- at least Admins would only have so many to change, but we'd still have to look at every post -- again. BUT, I'm not re-cleaning until they fix whatever got broke. gawd ALL those hours of work we already did!! sigh Not happy with this mess, I sure hope they have a back-up of the boards in question. Judy -- ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa Steve Irwin Warriors please sign map at: http://www.frappr.com/steveirwinwarriors

In a message dated 11/17/2006 9:23:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, jilliocity@hotmail.com writes: Is this something I should 'email staff' about? Thanks jill Probably the HelpDesk would be best--then they can flag the issue for whoever on staff deals with it. Joan

In a message dated 11/17/2006 9:38:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, hesler@bellsouth.net writes: I know there are a lot of opinions about this, and these are the types of posts I believe that should not go to mail lists on gatewayed boards. I know some believe all posts to a board should go to the list, but these types cause many on the lists to complain. Just my humble opinion. Regards, Tom Hesler Tom- You may get complaints but lists that are NOT gatewayed from boards also receive "thank you" posts and we can't really pick and choose what comes through the gateway or doesn't other than to control a spam problem or temporarily moderate a board because of user problems--Staff has pretty much told us on the listowners list that it is considered abuse to just allow SOME board posts through if we are gatewaying a list and board--unless there is a very good reason. Lists and boards do not have to be *perfect* and shouldn't be expected to be. Boards do allow us to remove a "thank you" post if we prefer after a time -- after it has had enough time to reach its intended recipient. Joan

Hi everyone, Since we're on this subject, what about this post? http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.holly&m=316 I'm assuming the boards are only for genealogical research, but is it permissible to use them to make contact with people who are missing? I've seen similar posts on other boards, such as people looking for old school chums, (which I think can be done at classmates.com) or a former neighbor, father who abandoned the family, etc. I suppose there are lots of opinions about this topic too, but does rootsweb have an "official" position? Thanks, Lou

Dear Judy: Ancestry.com telephone numbers for "technical services" or "customer support" are not informed regarding technical issues for ADMINS. Nor is it appropriate for us to call such numbers for ADMIN Support or Board issues. If you check the Help Pages for Board Administration, you will not find any directives to make telephone calls in the procedures for Board Admins. The appropriate method is to write to messageboards@rootsweb.com with our reports, requests for rulingss and etc. regarding the Boards, regardless if we access them by the Rootsweb or the Ancestry.com "skin"/interface. To do so, puts you DIRECTLY in touch with the Message Boards Coordinator -- Elaine, who does know the status of the boards and needs to know of issues with them. Alternatively, one may report to the Rootsweb Help Desk and the post will be directed to the Message Boards Coordinator to have addressed, when necessary and appropriate. As for getting any offishul messages or response from STAFF on this list, please remember that this is a *peer to peer* support list. STAFF rarely ever posts here, nor should we expect them to. I have found STAFF to be extremely responsive to my reports, questions and requests for rulings over the years.... when posed through the appropriate channel. Cheers, Lauren On 11/17/06, Judy Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, I only had to explain myself & the problems a zillion times to ancestry > technical support, BUT they finally got my point. They made me mad, wanting > me to delete cookies etc. But I convinced them it is not just "me" seeing > the issues! geesh. > > They're calling the big-wigs and checking the problems on the boards. > > I went through my 70 some boards and hit & miss some boards are missing ALL > classifications. These ALL reverted to green (user) or Blue (admin side) > instead of black links. But like DAGER is fine, but DAGGER is not. So it > does not seem to be by alphabet. Maybe all the bad boards are on one part > of the database, I don't know. > > Maybe they can restore them. Or I suggested re-setting bad boards to > query-default--- at least Admins would only have so many to change, but we'd > still have to look at every post -- again. BUT, I'm not re-cleaning until > they fix whatever got broke. gawd ALL those hours of work we already did!! > sigh > > Not happy with this mess, I sure hope they have a back-up of the boards in > question. > > Judy > -- > ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ > Washington Co PA free Websites: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian > County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ > Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: > http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa > Steve Irwin Warriors please sign map at: > http://www.frappr.com/steveirwinwarriors > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In thinking.. I probably also should include that Adoption posts have had some tightening in regulation as found in the AUP: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html ADOPTION MESSAGE BOARDS By posting messages to the adoption message boards included as part of the Service (the "Adoption Boards"), you represent that doing so - including posting the information contained in such message(s) - is not in violation of any laws, and that you AND the person you are or may be searching for are over 18 years of age or otherwise over the legal age that applies in the relevant jurisdiction(s). You also represent that the information contained in any message or material you post is (1) "non-identifying" information or (2) (A) identifying information or (B) information or data that, in the case of either (2)(A) or (2)(B), is not otherwise protected by the laws of any relevant jurisdiction. Laws regarding adoption and the Internet vary considerably depending on the state or the region of the state in question. We urge you to consult with your local attorney before using the Adoption Boards. The Adoption Boards are provided as a convenience to help those whose lives have been touched by the adoption process. Neither RootsWeb.com nor MyFamily.com, Inc. is an adoption agency. The Adoption Boards are not places for adoptive parents and adoption professionals to solicit birthparents, nor are they a place for anyone who may be considering placing a child for adoption to select adoptive parents or an adoption professional. Any adoption professionals that may use the Adoption Boards represent that their use thereof does not violate any laws. Third party advertising is not permitted on the Adoption Boards. Monitors will be regularly checking the Adoption Boards for inappropriate messages and material. Those messages or material that are inappropriate will be deleted without warning or explanation. ............................................................................................. Cheers, Lauren

I disagree. I have been informed/educated over the years, via asking STAFF for a ruling and being told to move posts that are seeking living individuals as well as those seeking information re adoption. One must bear in mind if the post fits the TOPIC. If the TOPIC is the SURNAME and related historical and genealogical information then it would be on topic for a surname board. If the TOPIC is LOCATING someone and the surname is secondary, then the post must be moved to retain the integrity of the boards -- a duty we are charged with. If someone is seeking a "lost friend (high school, college, military, church, etc.) or family member then the "lost friends and family" board would be the more appropriate location for the post. If someone is seeking information regarding adoption (birth mother, birth family, etc.) then the more appropriate board is to be found among the Adoption boards. If the surname box is used appropriately, the post will still turn up for a surname search no matter what board it is moved to. One must read the posts carefully to determine the actual topic of the post. Not just the mere mention of a surname or location may make it on topic, nor off topic for the mere mention of adoption. Cheers, Lauren On 11/17/06, JYoung6180@aol.com <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > > Lou- > > I don't feel you should remove these posts unless there is personal info > about living people you don't feel should be on ANY board. If you are > uncomfortable with this type of post on YOUR board then, as has already been > suggested, move the post to Lost Family and Friends. > > Joan >

At 08:52 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote: >I think you will get a lot of opinions about this one but I usually >just leave them unless it is excessive and leads to general chit-chat >that doesn't relate to anything genealogical. > >On 11/17/06, Donna <dkcooper6@comcast.net> wrote: > > Should the "thank you & me too" be left on the boards or removed? > > > > Thanks, Donna I know there are a lot of opinions about this, and these are the types of posts I believe that should not go to mail lists on gatewayed boards. I know some believe all posts to a board should go to the list, but these types cause many on the lists to complain. Just my humble opinion. Regards, Tom Hesler -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006

Jackie, Yes some of my cleaned boards are black again too. My classifications are missing entirely on a surname board of over 6,000 posts (I'd cleaned 3,000+ before -- sigh) Ancestry - Help - contact - My Profile -- It says my email is on record, but not my password. BUT if I try to register (which I did long ago) it says my email is not on record. Bottom line, I can;t log in. Log in is iffy on RW side. Sometimes errors, sometimes ok. I asked them to re-set the entire board to default "Query" so I have a fighting chance to re-clean the board again. Quirky boards!! Judy On 11/17/06, Joan Asche <jasche45133@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, There are some very strange things going on with the boards. > > Classifications are missing, a couple of messages I moved to a more > appropriate county board are back on the board where they were > originally posted, and messages that I looked at are no longer in bold > like they normally are after a I read a post. > > There are some boards that I simply can not post to (I don't admin > this boards) no matter how many times I go back and try to post to > them I get an error message. I am very frustrated because I reported > this to the help desk and received a very terse reply. > > I can understand that this problem could be on my end; however, I am > able to post to most boards but there are four that I simply cannot > post too. I keep getting an error message. Even if the problem is on > my end it doesn't mean that the help desk has to be rude or abrupt. > They tell us to report problems to the help desk then when you do they > don't help. > > Okay, sorry for venting about the lack of help at the help desk as I > said I am frustrated with the 'system.' > > On 11/17/06, Jackie Wilson Goddard <jaws64@comlinkusa.net> wrote: > > I've spot checked a few of mine and all have their classifications. > > > > HOWEVER, I discovered something else almighty weird: > > 1st, I always access the boards thru RootsWeb and, upon adoption, I > > clean up the entire board - so the link to every message on every > > board I admin should be *black* as a visited link. > > On the first board I spot checked every link is BLUE. As was the > > next board I went to. But the 3rd board I checked, the links were > BLACK. > > I am now going thru board by board checking to see which ones are > > blue so I can ask helpdesk. > > > > Strange, huh? > > > > Jackie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa Steve Irwin Warriors please sign map at: http://www.frappr.com/steveirwinwarriors

Donna, I remove them after a couple weeks along with general chit chat messages such as: " I have all my genealogy papers in storage right now, but as soon as I get them out, I'll send you some information." "Hi uncle Frank, it's me, Susan, Uncle Harry's daughter, how's Aunt Martha? My husband just started a new job but we'll be up your way to visit next summer." I don't see any genealogical value in them. JMHO, Marilyn -----------------------original message-------------------- In a message dated 11/17/2006 8:49:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dkcooper6@comcast.net writes: Should the "thank you & me too" be left on the boards or removed? Thanks, Donna

What board is missing the link for 'post new message?' The boards have been rather odd the past couple of days so it would help if we knew which one(s) were giving your trouble so we could take a look-see. J. Asche On 11/16/06, Judi Stahlecker <judi_s1@msn.com> wrote: > Please Reply.................. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judi Stahlecker<mailto:judi_s1@msn.com> > To: BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:50 PM > Subject: HELP > > > I cannot seem to Post a New Message, I do Not see a "Post New Message" link for me to use????? > HELP > Judi > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Judi, Another person did reply to you. What Board are you trying to post on? What is the URL web address where you had the problem? This particular List is for Board Administrators to discuss administrator duties. You might get better help by using Help (top corner of any Rootsweb or Ancestry page), then going down that page to Technical Help. (on Ancestry there is a form to use) The Rootsweb Help Desk or Ancestry technical support are the only people who can "fix" the kind of problem you've brought up here. Judy On 11/17/06, Judi Stahlecker <judi_s1@msn.com> wrote: > > no reply from you?????? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judi Stahlecker<mailto:judi_s1@msn.com> > To: BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:50 PM > Subject: HELP > > > I cannot seem to Post a New Message, I do Not see a "Post New Message" > link for me to use????? > HELP > Judi > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa Steve Irwin Warriors please sign map at: http://www.frappr.com/steveirwinwarriors

This is more appropriate to the topic board "Lost Family and Friends." The woman is seeking a living person. It is not genealogical in nature. See: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.lost-family-and-friends Cheers, Lauren On 11/17/06, LouMKing@aol.com <LouMKing@aol.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Since we're on this subject, what about this post? > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.holly&m=316 > > I'm assuming the boards are only for genealogical research, but is it > permissible to use them to make contact with people who are missing? I've seen > similar posts on other boards, such as people looking for old school chums, > (which I think can be done at classmates.com) or a former neighbor, father > who abandoned the family, etc. > > I suppose there are lots of opinions about this topic too, but does > rootsweb have an "official" position? > > Thanks, > Lou > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm not having any trouble logging in, but I use the "remember my password" feature... (Don't know if that makes a difference or not). Upon further looking, I discovered some boards were only "partially" marked as unread - one board had the posts made since Nov. 4th as unread but all previous ones were "read". All this week I've been having problems - 404 errors out the ying-yang. Some days it's so bad, I have to just stop using the boards. At 08:26 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote: >Jackie, > >Yes some of my cleaned boards are black again too. > >My classifications are missing entirely on a surname board of over 6,000 >posts (I'd cleaned 3,000+ before -- sigh) > >Ancestry - Help - contact - My Profile -- It says my email is on record, but >not my password. BUT if I try to register (which I did long ago) it says my >email is not on record. Bottom line, I can;t log in. > >Log in is iffy on RW side. Sometimes errors, sometimes ok. > >I asked them to re-set the entire board to default "Query" so I have a >fighting chance to re-clean the board again. > >Quirky boards!! > >Judy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006

I think you will get a lot of opinions about this one but I usually just leave them unless it is excessive and leads to general chit-chat that doesn't relate to anything genealogical. On 11/17/06, Donna <dkcooper6@comcast.net> wrote: > Should the "thank you & me too" be left on the boards or removed? > > Thanks, Donna > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Should the "thank you & me too" be left on the boards or removed? Thanks, Donna