In a message dated 11/20/2006 4:17:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, dhettrick@earthlink.net writes: Tell me again please where we can send suggestions for improvements to the boards? I have one which applies to users and admins alike. Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net Suggestions for ehhancements for the boards can be posted here: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.rw.admin.boardsugges t Joan

On 11/20/06, cyan3376@gmail.com <cyan3376@gmail.com> wrote: > > JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > >I generally don't feel the need to jump on someone's answer with an "I > >agree" unless I have something to add > > > ho ho ho ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . > > Oh, if that were only true! Oh gee wiz, I thought we were all grown-ups on this list. If you have an issue with Joan or any other Admin, take it to PRIVATE email. Geez. Is it any wonder that the world generally has gotten so bad? Too many people can't resist the urge to let a tiny moment go by without slamming someone else. Fed up with trash postings, Judy Florian

JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: >I generally don't feel the need to jump on someone's answer with an "I >agree" unless I have something to add ho ho ho ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . Oh, if that were only true!

That was soooo mature of you. @@@ Christ on a cracker.......Joan is a huge help on this list and LO and others. Please save your sarcasm to private posts. On 11/20/06, cyan3376@gmail.com <cyan3376@gmail.com> wrote: > JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > > >I generally don't feel the need to jump on someone's answer with an "I > >agree" unless I have something to add > > > ho ho ho ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . > > Oh, if that were only true! -- Kathie Harrison Family Trees Grow with Love Ancestral Whispers http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/

In a message dated 11/19/2006 10:08:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, listsmonster@gmail.com writes: Hi Wilson: I was going to suggest the Ancestry Improvements board as an alternative, but it seems to not be accepting posts at this time either. Might be part of the molasses syndrome, or may be something new. You may want to report it to the Help Desk. Unless the search engine is case sensitive, it should not matter re the De de or DE. Cheers, Lauren Thanks for the suggestion. I agree about lack of impact of case on searches, but who knows if that will always be true? And does the capitalization of a separable prefix have significance in other countries? In any event, this is part of being sure that our databases are as accurate as possible. I still believe that Ancestry should be more careful when they make a global change. Wilson DeCamp Leesburg, VA

Tell me again please where we can send suggestions for improvements to the boards? I have one which applies to users and admins alike. Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net

At some point recently there appears to have been a global replacement of the word "De" or "de" with "DE" in the indexes of many data bases. I have seen this in the indexes to the 1790 through 1930 censuses (except for 1850, the 1890 veterans schedule, and the mortality schedules), some of the immigration data bases, and others. I'm not sure if this has impacted the Boards. The surname that I primarily research frequently is spelled with "De" as a separable part of the name, i.e., "De Camp". Has anyone observed a similar problem? I have tried to post a query about this to the Ancestry Site Comments, but that board seems to be down at the present time. Global changes like this shouldn't be made casually. Does anyone have suggestions about how this change might be reversed? Wilson DeCamp Leesburg, VA

Rene: If the post is unresponsive to the post it replied on and is not on topic for the board, then it should be moved. It is hard to tell without seeing the post. You, as the admin can make the "call." Here's the "how to" response to your initial question. To move a post within a surname board -- it will take all replies with it, but not what is above it in the thread. type: surnames.surname replace surname with the actual name of the board. ie surnames.wombat and it will move to a thread of its own on the same board (wombat surname) If a post needs to be moved to a different surname board type: surnames.newsurname replace newsurname with the actual name of the board. ie surnames.feeblemeister and it will move to the other board and take all the replies to it along with it When an admin encounters a situation that there is not a surname board in existance to move the post to, then the "request a board" link can be accessed and in the comments box, one can put "to move a post to a more appropriate board." One is not required to administer the board one has requested. Cheers, Lauren On 11/19/06, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > I let it sit for a couple of days to think about before deciding that it > really doesn't belong. I thought about if I moved it, how would it be > attached to anything, but captions/titles can be changed by administrators. > She didn't even directly reply to the 1st poster in the message, just said, > I don't know if you have this information or not on the "blank" family, and > gave the information. That is why I really didn't feel that it was relevant > > > Unfortunately when I looked for that surname board, there isn't one, but she > has posted the same information on several different boards that have > married into the surname she was referencing, so it isn't information that > is lost. If I knew that the surname she was referencing was tied in anyway > to my surname board, I would've left it, probably with a post myself tying > it in, but there isn't anything common except the 1st posters last name. > > Rene'

Hi Wilson: I was going to suggest the Ancestry Improvements board as an alternative, but it seems to not be accepting posts at this time either. Might be part of the molasses syndrome, or may be something new. You may want to report it to the Help Desk. Unless the search engine is case sensitive, it should not matter re the De de or DE. Cheers, Lauren On 11/19/06, Decampnews@aol.com <Decampnews@aol.com> wrote: > At some point recently there appears to have been a global replacement of > the word "De" or "de" with "DE" in the indexes of many data bases. I have seen > this in the indexes to the 1790 through 1930 censuses (except for 1850, the > 1890 veterans schedule, and the mortality schedules), some of the immigration > data bases, and others. I'm not sure if this has impacted the Boards. > > The surname that I primarily research frequently is spelled with "De" as a > separable part of the name, i.e., "De Camp". Has anyone observed a similar > problem? > > I have tried to post a query about this to the Ancestry Site Comments, but > that board seems to be down at the present time. > > Global changes like this shouldn't be made casually. Does anyone have > suggestions about how this change might be reversed? > > Wilson DeCamp > Leesburg, VA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I generally don't feel the need to jump on someone's answer with an "I agree" unless I have something to add--and I don't really have anything to add to Judy's reply, she's said it all, but just wanted to expend a tiny bit on what she said above.... Replies are judged by different criteria than original posts--the original posts must be pertinent to the board on which they are posted and the replies must be directly pertinent to the posts they are in reply to. Joan ------------------------------- Ok, Thanks everyone. You've given me more to think about. Rene'

I let it sit for a couple of days to think about before deciding that it really doesn't belong. I thought about if I moved it, how would it be attached to anything, but captions/titles can be changed by administrators. She didn't even directly reply to the 1st poster in the message, just said, I don't know if you have this information or not on the "blank" family, and gave the information. That is why I really didn't feel that it was relevant Unfortunately when I looked for that surname board, there isn't one, but she has posted the same information on several different boards that have married into the surname she was referencing, so it isn't information that is lost. If I knew that the surname she was referencing was tied in anyway to my surname board, I would've left it, probably with a post myself tying it in, but there isn't anything common except the 1st posters last name. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Judy Florian Date: 11/19/2006 2:26:12 PM To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAd] moving a post I wouldn't move the post. First, it refers to the original post - even though it's the poster's name. If you move it to "1st poster's name" board, first it has no context because it isn't connected "to" anything or anyone. 1st poster's name won't likely be anywhere near the "reply" --- even if we assume 1st poster EVER posted to her own surname board. So therefore, the ONLY logical place for 2nd post is with the original post. Just because a reply never mentions the Board Name does not *automatically* make it "inappropriate" for the 1st post. Judy On 11/19/06, Kathie Harrison <harrison28@gmail.com> wrote: > > You should move it by itself to an appropriate board. It will not take > any other messages with it unless there are replies to her message. > -------------- > > On 11/19/06, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I had someone post to a surname board with genealogical > information. She > > replied to a post but not with information about the original post or > with > > any information that has to do with the surname board - she replied > because > > of the last name of the original poster. Now I know that this message > has > > to go, but if I move it to the appropriate board does this move the > original > > post which is relevant to my surname board? > > > > The information that she posted is some really good information, I hate > to > > have it be deleted, but....... > > > > Thanks, > > Rene' > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kathie Harrison > Family Trees Grow with Love > Ancestral Whispers > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa Steve Irwin Warriors please sign map at: http://www.frappr.com/steveirwinwarriors ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 11/19/2006 2:25:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, cageycat@gmail.com writes: I wouldn't move the post. First, it refers to the original post - even though it's the poster's name. If you move it to "1st poster's name" board, first it has no context because it isn't connected "to" anything or anyone. 1st poster's name won't likely be anywhere near the "reply" --- even if we assume 1st poster EVER posted to her own surname board. So therefore, the ONLY logical place for 2nd post is with the original post. Just because a reply never mentions the Board Name does not *automatically* make it "inappropriate" for the 1st post. Judy --- I generally don't feel the need to jump on someone's answer with an "I agree" unless I have something to add--and I don't really have anything to add to Judy's reply, she's said it all, but just wanted to expend a tiny bit on what she said above.... Replies are judged by different criteria than original posts--the original posts must be pertinent to the board on which they are posted and the replies must be directly pertinent to the posts they are in reply to. Joan

Hi everyone! I'd have to see the post you're referring to, but I would leave it where it is because its related to the previous message. Rick B ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene' To: boards-admins@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: [BAd] moving a post Hi All, I had someone post to a surname board with genealogical information. She replied to a post but not with information about the original post or with any information that has to do with the surname board - she replied because of the last name of the original poster. Now I know that this message has to go, but if I move it to the appropriate board does this move the original post which is relevant to my surname board? The information that she posted is some really good information, I hate to have it be deleted, but....... Thanks, Rene'

I wouldn't move the post. First, it refers to the original post - even though it's the poster's name. If you move it to "1st poster's name" board, first it has no context because it isn't connected "to" anything or anyone. 1st poster's name won't likely be anywhere near the "reply" --- even if we assume 1st poster EVER posted to her own surname board. So therefore, the ONLY logical place for 2nd post is with the original post. Just because a reply never mentions the Board Name does not *automatically* make it "inappropriate" for the 1st post. Judy On 11/19/06, Kathie Harrison <harrison28@gmail.com> wrote: > > You should move it by itself to an appropriate board. It will not take > any other messages with it unless there are replies to her message. > -------------- > > On 11/19/06, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I had someone post to a surname board with genealogical > information. She > > replied to a post but not with information about the original post or > with > > any information that has to do with the surname board - she replied > because > > of the last name of the original poster. Now I know that this message > has > > to go, but if I move it to the appropriate board does this move the > original > > post which is relevant to my surname board? > > > > The information that she posted is some really good information, I hate > to > > have it be deleted, but....... > > > > Thanks, > > Rene' > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kathie Harrison > Family Trees Grow with Love > Ancestral Whispers > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~PRIMARY NAMES: ANTHONY, BAKER, FLOWERS, LANE, SEPTER~ Washington Co PA free Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian County Coordinator for http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Researchers of Washington County PA, join our map: http://www.frappr.com/researchingwashingtoncopa Steve Irwin Warriors please sign map at: http://www.frappr.com/steveirwinwarriors

Hi All, I had someone post to a surname board with genealogical information. She replied to a post but not with information about the original post or with any information that has to do with the surname board - she replied because of the last name of the original poster. Now I know that this message has to go, but if I move it to the appropriate board does this move the original post which is relevant to my surname board? The information that she posted is some really good information, I hate to have it be deleted, but....... Thanks, Rene'

You should move it by itself to an appropriate board. It will not take any other messages with it unless there are replies to her message. -------------- On 11/19/06, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I had someone post to a surname board with genealogical information. She > replied to a post but not with information about the original post or with > any information that has to do with the surname board - she replied because > of the last name of the original poster. Now I know that this message has > to go, but if I move it to the appropriate board does this move the original > post which is relevant to my surname board? > > The information that she posted is some really good information, I hate to > have it be deleted, but....... > > Thanks, > Rene' > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathie Harrison Family Trees Grow with Love Ancestral Whispers http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/

At 1:02 AM -0700 11/18/06, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 11/17/2006 2:02:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,  >listsmonster@gmail.com writes: > >My recollection is that any moderation and review of content for >gateway posts before release to the list is to be done with thought >and care and not abused. Most posts will be appropriate to release. >Not all will be. > > > >-- >I think it best with this issue involving how the gateway is now to be  >handled under MailMan be left in Melissa's >words--since this is now her decision >it is best to read what she has to say on the subject rather than to add your >or my interpretation to it. > >See: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/Listowners/2006-10/1159717217 The following is a copy/paste from the message Joan is referring to: >The point of having an open board/list gateway >is that all the board posts are distributed to >the list. Some admins decide that they only want >to allow certain posts (i.e. posts by certain >authors or containing certain family lines and >etc.) to be distributed to the list and severely >restrict which board posts are distributed. > >That kind of action would be considered abuse of >the admin tools and warrant disciplinary action >by the Listmaster or RootsWeb staff ranging from >a warning to removal as an admin (depending on >the seriousness of the abuse). That sounds to me like Melissa is saying that an admin may be disciplined for using the ban-the-gateway to pick and choose what board posts are sent along to the list. It does not sound like listmonster's theory of gateway management is a problem at all. Slán, Mo! -- <http://xri.net/=mobang>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BF.2ADIAE/1202.1 Message Board Post: Could we have an update please?

Upon trying to contact a board admin to ask her to have the board gatewayed to my list, I clicked on Links & Announcements and got only a blank page. Does this mean the board's admin is missing or is my computer doing something strange? Thanks.

In a message dated 11/18/2006 4:45:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu writes: Where might the problem lie? Should I just go straight to the helpdesk, or could this be connected to recent problems experienced by the boards? -- Thanks, Mary ----- I think the HelpDesk is your next stop because I can't see any reason for the post not coming through to the list either. It isn't like the case the other day where the gateway had been broken by the listname being "lost" in the gateway blurb....everything seems to be in order in your case. Joan