That's great that it spells that out, Joan, but how many people use the FAQ? Many of us were asking that a few additional words be added on the Surname box - "Surnames used in this message" or something like that with additional information in the FAQ. Links to the FAQ's would be nice, too, from various parts of the message form. In all honesty, I have not tried to post a message, so maybe those links are included. Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> Subject: [BAd] Surname Variants in the Surname Field---FAQs clear that uponce and for all > As had always been intended--I see the newly revised baord FAQs clear up > the > often debated subject of including variant spellings of a surname in the > surname box. I quote: > > "Once you have typed your message, enter all of the surnames mentioned in > your post in the "Surnames" field. Please include only surnames that are > mentioned in your post- not all surnames you might be researching. If you > wish, you > can include surname spelling variations for the surnames mentioned in > your > message." > > Also as always intended, this is left up to the poster to decide. > > Joan

In a message dated 12/8/2006 8:49:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, cageycat@gmail.com writes: I think what she's seeing is what I get. Let say you see in the thread the names "Blue Bonnet and Billie Ray" in the surname box. You click edit, but see it has something different (correct) anyway in the box. I think the update did not show our last fixes. I haven't seen this phenomenon (and I hope I don't) but I don't doubt what you are seeing. Is it possible you are viewing cached pages in your browser? Joan

Thank you Joan. Karima ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] Giving up boards . . . how to do it? > > In a message dated 12/8/2006 11:21:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, > karima@insightbb.com writes: > > What is the process for giving up boards? > > > > Same as always--contact Message Board staff at: messageboards@rootsweb.com . > > Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0655-1, 12/08/2006 > Tested on: 12/8/2006 8:45:46 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > >

In a message dated 12/8/2006 8:36:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, iansinger@sympatico.ca writes: <<Yesterday I posted a message, which never arrived, asking if Ancestory Board Admins were really supposed to be going in and deleting messages as I never knew that and only I started as an Admin a couple of weeks ago. I seriously doubt that that is the way it is supposed to be as by allowing that Ancestory then is excerting editorial control, and legally becomes responsible as a publisher under US law for the content expressed in all messages.>> --- Ian- You need to click on COMMUNITY GUIDELINES on every board and read the agreement each user makes in using the boards. The GUIDELINES give RootsWeb/Ancestry the right to remove posts from boards that don't meet the guidelines. That isn't editorializing. It is exactly the same as setting privatizing of GEDCOMs on WorldConnect for individuals born after 1930...it is part of the agreement to terms when using the service. <<Are you now saying if a message is posted you were/are also expected to move it from one message board to another message board?? Is that not like saying if an author writes a book, and designates how it will be displayed (cover/jacket), you can change it at whim? In both cases the answer should be no as you do not hold copyright.>> --- No--it isn't. It is, once again, adhering to COMMUNITY GUIDELINES. If you couldn't move a message posted on the JONES board that asked about John SMITH and wife Susan ROBINSON--you'd have a pretty messed up board system. Misplaced posts need to be moved by the board admin. Copyright has nothing to do with displaying a post in its proper place within the board system. Copyright of original content is protected in that admins cannot edit the message body of a post. Joan

marilynandmonty@cox.net writes: >The advantages seem few, in my opinion. After each board name that we admin >it has the number of objections in parentheses (so far mine all say zero). >That is the way it was when I first became an admin, about 4 or 5 years ago. >We no longer have to open a board just to see at a glance if we have any >objections. > > > What is an objection, where does it come from, how does someone make it known and what is supposed to be done about it? Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

From: Ian Singer <iansinger@sympatico.ca> >>>It is not considered good etiquette to post a query or the same information to >>>several boards at once and your duplicate messages may be deleted by the board >>>staff or admin on all but the most appropriate board. >>> >>> PLease not those are not my words. I think they were from the official policy and I was quotint them to ask if Board Admins really had teh right to delete messages as if they do that means Abcestory is accepty editorial control and therefore is legally liable for all contact or illegalities and they have said they they are not. > > > >chommel6@comcast.net wrote: > > >When a surname has two spellings and two Boards, I will post to both Boards. I am Board Administrator for one of the Boards (and List Administrator for both corresponding Lists), and I have not received any complaints from the other Board Administrator.. > > > And I am Administrator for ROSENBERG and ROSENBURG and I consider cross posting to be proper and acceptable. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

In a message dated 12/8/2006 7:47:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ocollaugh@comcast.net writes: Surnames can be a problem because if there is not a list for them, they cannot be moved. Don- I don't know where you got that idea...if there is no list for the surname you need to move a message to, click the link to request a new board (and be sure the box isn't checked off that says you want to be the admin of this new board). In the comments box explain that you need the board to move a misplaced post and staff will create it and notify you when it is ready. Then you can move the message. Joan

> Surnames can be a problem because if there is not a list for them, they > cannot be moved. Comment -- You can always request a board for that particular surname and when the board is approved you can then move it. I have this a time or two. :-) You also don't need to agree to admin a board to have one created.

As a board and list admin Mark, you know the proper way to unsubscribe. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hadlund" <KRAM95@cox.net> To: <BOARDS-ADMINS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: [BAd] Enough! > I'm tired of all the complaining. Unsubscribing for now. > > Mark > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOARDS-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.rw.admin.badmin/5009.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Elaine fixed my address, but the HTML won't work yet. I looked at the source and they are using CSS. They also closed the HTML, which is what we were NOT supposed to do on the L & A's. (Could that be what broke all the image links?) I guess we'll have to wait for a tutorial on this too. Someone from the programing side needs to give us a little direction on what we can and can't do on the "Board Info" page. Rel@ively, Patrice

Try saying that three times fast! But seriously now, I decided to create a Public Profile this morning. I correctly choose my country (United States) and state (Washington) from the drop-down boxes, but if you look at my profile it says my location is Cook Islands, Acadia! I've never even been anywhere near there, none of my research is there, so I've no idea where this is coming from. If you want to check this out, go to the Bahnsen board: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bahnsen/mb.ashx I will be reporting this. Jane Irish Nelson jane_irish_nelson@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.

Thanks, Joan - that is definitely encouraging. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> Subject: Re: [BAd] Questions - Please Help > > In a message dated 12/8/2006 10:59:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, > marilynandmonty@cox.net writes: > > Checking the > author's name no longer brings up all the posts made by that person. Will > that be a feature that is returning? > Marilyn G. > > > > My understanding is that this is on the TO DO list and will be fixed. > > Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.rw.admin.badmin/5005.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nope! This is not easy to log-in, to find tools, to follow messages, etc.!!! Not only have they fixed something that was not broken, but they've managed to make managing the boards as easy as climbing Mt. Everest! New and different doesn't surpass "tried and true"!

I'm sure the new boards will improve, but they are bound to take more time, and be harder to admin than before, with that in mind, anybody want the following low activity boards? Amodio Swinney Fuerst Kulak Wotring Gahn Regards, Fred

Well, for those of us who used to see a color change when we read a message, and didn't with the changeover, I figured out how to fix mine. Maybe it can change yours back to the color change............. I went to start, control panel, internet properties. On the general page, click color and fix (change)(set) the colors you want your links to be. THEN, click ..... still on the general page..... accessibility and then check ignore colors specified on webpages.... then click ok a couple of times, and go back and look at your board..... Mine are now two different colors, which pleases me greatly........... Remember, I said it worked on mine..... :o) Carlette

In a message dated 12/8/2006 6:17:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, cageycat@gmail.com writes: On 12/7/06, marilynandmonty <marilynandmonty@cox.net> wrote: > > Laurie, > If you review the thread in "flat view" you can see the Classification and > Surnames fields on all of them. > Marilyn G. Not on MY boards! It shows only some of the info on some of the posts. Judy- Try rechecking this on your boards--no, you were not wrong in saying that FLAT VIEW did not include this info--it didn't on my boards either--but as of today is DOES. It looks as if this was a bug that has now been fixed. Joan

You can still get the email address of the board poster just like you always did by clicking on the link that shows their poster name on the board message. That is free and you can also post a reply on the board to their message which is also free. Even if they haven't filled out a profile telling about themselves, their email address shows up at the top of the page. The fee is for access to ancestry's data base--not the boards. Lou -------------------original message------------------ In a message dated 12/8/2006 4:50:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Davis@dmea.osd.mil writes: Wow! Has Ancestry destroyed the purpose of the message boards for the genealogy community? To freely share data and to make contacts to obtain more detailed data of common interest. Or this for pay service just to be able to get e-mail addresses for those people who have chosen to be anonymous? Why would any genealogist want to be annonymous and not be contacted by anyone if they have posted a query? Is this an oxymoron or am I missing something?

In a message dated 12/8/2006 5:47:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, chommel6@comcast.net writes: When a surname has two spellings and two Boards, I will post to both Boards. I am Board Administrator for one of the Boards (and List Administrator for both corresponding Lists), and I have not received any complaints from the other Board Administrator.. Carl Hommel You CAN do that but you need to customize your message to be most suitable for each board--you shouldn't post EXACT duplicate messages on more than one board. Joan

Ian, The only time I move a message is when it is inappropriate for the board. For example, someone replied to someone else about her TAYLOR ancestor, then decides to open a NEW message and ask about her SMITH ancestor (no mention of TAYLOR anywhere in the message) and puts that on the TAYLOR board. I would right-click on the name of the poster and if the same message was already posted on the SMITH board (the poster realized her mistake and found the SMITH board after all), I would then look and see if the message was appropriate for a locality board. If not, then I would delete the first SMITH message that was inappropriate for the TAYLOR board. Now, if I am in a thread and somehow the topic gets changed to the SMITHs of Western Maryland, versus the original TAYLOR thread (perhaps because Ebeneezer TAYLOR married Polly SMITH and a SMITH researcher found the message about Polly and asks if anyone knows Polly's great-uncle Horace SMITH), then I would leave the message on the TAYLOR board because it still relates to the original message. I would change the subject when appropriate. I was under the impression this was all part of our duties as administrators of the boards. Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Singer" <iansinger@sympatico.ca> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] Questions - Please Help > Yesterday I posted a message, which never arrived, asking if Ancestory > Board Admins were really supposed to be going in and deleting messages > as I never knew that and only I started as an Admin a couple of weeks > ago. I seriously doubt that that is the way it is supposed to be as by > allowing that Ancestory then is excerting editorial control, and legally > becomes responsible as a publisher under US law for the content > expressed in all messages. > > Are you now saying if a message is posted you were/are also expected to > move it from one message board to another message board?? Is that not > like saying if an author writes a book, and designates how it will be > displayed (cover/jacket), you can change it at whim? In both cases the > answer should be no as you do not hold copyright. > > Ian Singer > marilynandmonty wrote: > >>I just found another disturbing thing. Whenever I was about to move a >>message, I would always right-click on the author of a message to see if >>she/he had already posted the same message to the board to which I was >>planning to move the message. If so, then I would see if that message >>could >>go to another list - a second surname mentioned, locality, etc. Checking >>the >>author's name no longer brings up all the posts made by that person. Will >>that be a feature that is returning? >>

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nan" <board.admin@earthlink.net> To: <boards-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] Giving up boards . . . how to do it? > >From the FAQ on the Help page (yes, I already checked; this is depressing) -- > > > Giving up or Transferring boards > Administrators should contact the appropriate Message Board Team Coordinator at the contact address shown below to transfer or give up a board. Under no circumstances should a board administrator share, or transfer, his password with another administrator. > > Contact Addresses > The Message Board Administration Team Coordinator responsible for a board may be reached at one of the following addresses: boards-localities@rootsweb.com, boards-surnames@rootsweb.com, or boards-topics@rootsweb.com > > Nan > Those are old addresses. The current one is messageboards@rootsweb.com . That will get to the person who can either transfer or orphan your boards for you. PLEASE post a list of the boards you are giving up to this list so your fellow admins can request them first. The process for that is (1) post the list (2) when someone asks for a board send a new message to messageboards@rootsweb.com and state that you wish to turn over that board to *name* and *email address* (3) the Message Board staff will notify that person when the board is ready for adoption. Regards, Sharyn