The same thing is happening to me this morning with "Volunteer to Admin" when clicking on "Submit." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAd] {BAd] Can't View Objection -- Blank White Page In a message dated 1/22/2008 11:15:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I think what you both are seeing with the blank objection phenomenon is what I posted about on the Boards Admins Board previously. Some objections are not being associated with the correct message--they are somehow being associated with a message other than the one the objector placed the objection on. (snipped)

Jim, Completely blank page? I've gotten a "page not found" error mesage a few times in the past, and it generally turned out that the board was already being adopted. Never got a blank page. Nan -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Jackson <[email protected]> >Sent: Jan 23, 2008 8:27 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BAd] {BAd] Can't View Objection -- Blank White Page > >The same thing is happening to me this morning with "Volunteer to Admin" >when clicking on "Submit." > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:14 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BAd] {BAd] Can't View Objection -- Blank White Page > > >In a message dated 1/22/2008 11:15:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >I think what you both are seeing with the blank objection phenomenon is >what >I posted about on the Boards Admins Board previously. Some objections are > >not being associated with the correct message--they are somehow being >associated with a message other than the one the objector placed the >objection on. >(snipped) > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've had two sitting there for over a week. But when I checked them yesterday, they'd been locked by Elaine. So I'm assuming (!) that staff is dealing with it. nls -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sent: Jan 23, 2008 8:13 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BAd] {BAd] Can't View Objection -- Blank White Page > > >In a message dated 1/22/2008 11:15:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >I think what you both are seeing with the blank objection phenomenon is >what >I posted about on the Boards Admins Board previously. Some objections are >not being associated with the correct message--they are somehow being >associated with a message other than the one the objector placed the >objection on. > >If the objection happens to become attached to a message number that has >been deleted from the board or otherwise doesn't exist--then the objection >just >shows up blank. Be careful in reviewing objections until this bug is fixed >because you could be deleting a valid objection because you click through to > >view the post and don't find anything wrong with that post and figure the >objector was mistaken and delete the objection--when, in fact, the objector >may >have been reporting a completely different message. > >Joan > > >----------------------------- > >Joan, > >Oh no!! ANOTHER bug to be fixed? <sigh> > >Marilyn > > > > > > > > > >**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 1/22/2008 11:15:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I think what you both are seeing with the blank objection phenomenon is what I posted about on the Boards Admins Board previously. Some objections are not being associated with the correct message--they are somehow being associated with a message other than the one the objector placed the objection on. If the objection happens to become attached to a message number that has been deleted from the board or otherwise doesn't exist--then the objection just shows up blank. Be careful in reviewing objections until this bug is fixed because you could be deleting a valid objection because you click through to view the post and don't find anything wrong with that post and figure the objector was mistaken and delete the objection--when, in fact, the objector may have been reporting a completely different message. Joan ----------------------------- Joan, Oh no!! ANOTHER bug to be fixed? <sigh> Marilyn **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:42:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This has happened to me several times and I just assumed (never assume! <g>) that it was caused by my pop-up blocker or firewall. If I turn off the blocker and the firewall temporarily and keep trying to view it, the objection will finally appear. Best wishes, Lynne -------------------- Lynne, Thanks for your reply.....I don't think the firewall would be the problem because there were 11 objections in the queue and all the others opened okay. I only got the blank white page on three of them. Marilyn **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

In a message dated 1/22/2008 10:07:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Marilyn, Have you tried to right click on the blank page and then select the refresh option? AOLer's seem to have this blank page problem a lot lately. Sharon ---------------- Sharon, Yep, tried that but only the page with the list of objections refreshed -- not the objection itself. Marilyn **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Is it OK for the rest of us to use it, too? I figure it is, but just want to be on firm ground before doing so. Thanks, Leona ------------ Leona- Sure---just be sure to state that the article was originally published in the RootsWeb Review and give the date of the issue where it was published (July 25, 2007). Joan **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Dan Anderson wrote: >Who all got the e-mail Joan referenced on the BAd board??? >http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.rw.admin.badmin/5135.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx > >Just wondering, 'cause I didn't either. Have to admit, I agree with >xandervan. > > I didn't receive anything, Dan. The last notice I received was the Newsroom Announcement entitled "Updated Learning Center & Message Boards Hardware Upgrade". The message was dated 18 January, but didn't pass through RootsWeb's servers and arrive at my ISP until 21 January. Lynne

Joan, You said > Paul- > > Please feel free to share the following article published in the RootsWeb > Review with your Newbies: > > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2007/0725.txt > ********************* Is it OK for the rest of us to use it, too? I figure it is, but just want to be on firm ground before doing so. Thanks, Leona

Paul- Please feel free to share the following article published in the RootsWeb Review with your Newbies: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2007/0725.txt 2. Using RootsWeb: Getting to the Heart of the Subject: Are You Guilty? By Joan Young [email protected] Have you ever posted a query on a RootsWeb mailing list or message board and gotten absolutely no response? Does it seem like everyone but you is getting the answers and feedback they need while you are shut out in the cold? If so, let's try to pinpoint the reason and improve your odds of making that RootsWeb connection. THE PROBLEM Most people are constantly on the go. They try to "multitask" to cover a lot of ground as quickly as possible. When we scan our inboxes for new e-mails, or search new message board posts, we generally don't read every word of every message. Many of us scan the subject lines and then only read those messages that appeal to us; that is, we read the message if we find a name, location, or fact in the subject line that attracts our attention. Digest mailing list subscribers, especially, are notorious for quickly scanning the subjects in the index of a digest before deciding which messages to read and which to ignore. If we have books at our disposal that allow us to do lookups, we often only read those posts that mention the topics covered by our books. PITFALLS TO AVOID When we encounter a subject line that says "no subject," or a generic subject line such as "Looking," "Searching," "Genealogy," "My Family," or worse yet, "Help!" we tend to disregard the message and move on to the next e-mail. Another red flag for someone perusing a mailing list is the digest subscriber who merely clicks "reply" to a digest message and leaves the digest as the subject of the reply. I think we'd all admit that a subject line of "SMITH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 171" isn't exactly telling us much about the content of the message within. When replying to a digest message be sure to change the default subject to an informative one. A WELL-WRITTEN QUERY IS MEANINGLESS IF IT IS NEVER READ Quite possibly you have drafted an informative, well-written query with the names of the people you are researching, details of the times and places where they lived, and the information you wanted to learn. However, it may still be lost if no one reads your message because of a poor subject line. Your message body should embellish your subject line and provide additional details. THE SOLUTION: CREATING A MEANINGFUL SUBJECT LINE TO ATTRACT READERS Provide concise but specific information about the content of your message. Include the name, location, and time frame of the individuals in your message. Tell us what information you are looking for. In other words, briefly outline your reason for posting the query. If your query includes an interesting story about your ancestor, provide the reader with an indication of the story enclosed so that your message attracts his attention. Some examples of good subject lines follow: --Maiden name needed for Sophie who married John SMITH in 1900 in Chicago, Illinois --Seeking parents of Joseph JONES born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in 1765 --Looking for Obituary of James JOHNSON who died in Clearwater, Florida, in 1965 --Seeking Descendants of Henricus GEIGER who Died in 1746 in Lembach, Alsace, France --James O'REILLY, born New Jersey, 1830; killed at Battle of Gettysburg, 1863; need marriage information --Morris FRIEDMAN, immigrated in 1900 to Philadelphia, PA, from Russia-- Seeking Village of Origin Note: It is typical to capitalize surnames so that they quickly catch readers' attention. CONCLUSION The success of your query rests largely on your ability to create a subject line that will grab readers. Readers will be more likely to take the time to study your message and consider whether they have an interest or an answer for you. So stop crying for HELP in the wilderness and SEARCHING and LOOKING aimlessly, and start providing specifics in your subject lines. Joan **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Would anyone be interested in taking over the administration of this board? I'm unable to state that the board is in fine shape. Rather, I must admit that it needs a great deal of help since I've only been able to keep up with new posts and haven't been able to tackle the old ones. I throw my hands up in defeat. If interested, please contact me directly. Hannah

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Joan wrote: "Subject lines are not very important if a person is SEARCHING the boards but are VERY important for a person who is BROWSING to find posts of interest on a board. Under the current system where you can't really SEE an entire board in an open/expanded view it is possible that fewer users BROWSE to find posts than did in the past. Most probably have to search the boards instead." Hi Joan, Thanks...Guess it won't hurt to keep trying to educate the newbies. I left one such explanation post on the ROTH Board, but not all board posters are viewing it. That's why I wanted to post the explanation (again) on the Lists, in hopes that it will reach more people. Paul

Who all got the e-mail Joan referenced on the BAd board??? http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.rw.admin.badmin/5135.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Just wondering, 'cause I didn't either. Have to admit, I agree with xandervan. Dan

Hi, Marilyn and Mike - I think what you both are seeing with the blank objection phenomenon is what I posted about on the Boards Admins Board previously. Some objections are not being associated with the correct message--they are somehow being associated with a message other than the one the objector placed the objection on. If the objection happens to become attached to a message number that has been deleted from the board or otherwise doesn't exist--then the objection just shows up blank. Be careful in reviewing objections until this bug is fixed because you could be deleting a valid objection because you click through to view the post and don't find anything wrong with that post and figure the objector was mistaken and delete the objection--when, in fact, the objector may have been reporting a completely different message. Joan ----------- Hi Marilyn, I don't know what is causing the problem. I had the same thing happen within the last week or 10 days with only one objection. Staff took care of the issue and it has not happened again for me. It seemed to be related to the specific message board post because I have not had any problems with other objections. I suspected that it was server related when it was replaced. Sorry I couldn't provide any help. Mike **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Hi Paul You wrote: > I sent this post out on the 19th and it never made it to the boards-admins list...? I checked the List Archives and there were no messages posted on the 19th...? <snip> > > Pardon my bold text...it's easier for me to read...I just went through "my" ROTH Boards: 786 Threads 1840 Messages since 1999. > > Sounds like your post was written in HTML, which may be why it never made it to the list. Plain text, which is what you should use for list messages, doesn't allow for bold text. > > I've seen posts about filling out Comprehensive Subject Boxes (C.S.B.s) over the years and have tried to educate the board (and list) posters about the merits of not posting "Roth", or "Looking For Roths", or "Searching for father (mother/sister/brother)" or "HELP!!!" etc...the same for my 4 other boards and lists. <snip> > > You know what? A Major Majority of C.S.B.s had NO RESPONSES !...???? And...several of the I.S.Bs had approx 1 - 5 reponses...one had 10 !??? > > Anyone else notice this? Just curious. I haven't, as yet, checked my other boards...but will shortly. > > > I've never taken the time to see if more responses are made to posts with good subject lines or not, but if statistics show fewer responses to posts with awful subject lines I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure we'd all agree that a subject line that reflects the content of the post and includes the SURNAME, date(s), and location(s) whenever possible is the best kind of subject line. Since posting about subject lines on the surname message boards is off topic, I just take the time to add information (SURNAME, date, location, reason for post) to the first post in the thread if the subject line is an awful generic one. First I check to make sure that the poster hasn't place a duplicate message elsewhere, though, since most of the very active boards I admin are locality boards. It seems that posters that are clueless about good subject lines are also confused about where to post and frequently duplicate messages on a surname board and locality board. If the opportunity arises, I e-mail posters privately and suggest they take a look at "What are the steps to creating a great post?" and the other information in the Board FAQ, which may give them some ideas on how to get better/more responses to their posts. Best wishes, Lynne

Marilyn, Have you tried to right click on the blank page and then select the refresh option? AOLer's seem to have this blank page problem a lot lately. Sharon -------------------------- In a message dated 1/22/2008 6:29:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Everyone, After having 13 objections in my list that I wasn't able to access for 2 months, I've finally been able to get to them again. HOWEVER, when I clicked on the "Judge Objection" button for 2 of them, the page that opened was blank white. I contacted [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) and someone at staff took care of them, but now there are more new objections as of yesterday that show a blank white page again. This happens whether I use the ancestry or rootsweb interface to manage boards. Does anyone know why this is happening now? Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks for your help, Marilyn **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

[email protected] wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >After having 13 objections in my list that I wasn't able to access for 2 >months, I've finally been >able to get to them again. HOWEVER, when I clicked on the "Judge >Objection" button for 2 of them, the page that opened was blank white. I contacted >[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) and someone at staff took >care of them, but now there are more new objections as of yesterday that show a >blank white page again. This happens whether I use the ancestry or rootsweb >interface to manage boards. > >Does anyone know why this is happening now? Is anyone else having this >problem? > Hi Marilyn This has happened to me several times and I just assumed (never assume! <g>) that it was caused by my pop-up blocker or firewall. If I turn off the blocker and the firewall temporarily and keep trying to view it, the objection will finally appear. Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Everyone, After having 13 objections in my list that I wasn't able to access for 2 months, I've finally been able to get to them again. HOWEVER, when I clicked on the "Judge Objection" button for 2 of them, the page that opened was blank white. I contacted [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) and someone at staff took care of them, but now there are more new objections as of yesterday that show a blank white page again. This happens whether I use the ancestry or rootsweb interface to manage boards. Does anyone know why this is happening now? Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks for your help, Marilyn **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

jill warland wrote: >Hi Joan >Please tell me again who to contact at RW to change a message board to a new admin? >Whichever email address I tried last week yielded no response whatsoever. > >Thanks, jill >^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^'*'^ remembering Richie J (1957-2007) > Hi Jill I'm not Joan, but . . . . Contact Elaine at <[email protected]>. Best wishes, Lynne